[advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

[Darren.Reed at Sun.COM]

Simon Phipps wrote:

>
> On Jun 26, 2007, at 00:01, Eric Boutilier wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Darren.Reed at Sun.COM wrote:
>>
>>> The model that I envisage of how it should work is:
>>> - ogb asks advocacy to go and do this
>>> - advocacy goes and does it, comes back with a result
>>> - ogb says "thank you" and gives it a stamp of approval.
>>>
>>> In other words, the advocacy group does all of the "hard work"
>>> but it should still need to be ratified by the OGB.
>>
>>
>> I'm in the other camp. That is, the camp that feels it's best if
>> Community Group decisions -- even major ones -- do not, by default,
>> call for OGB ratification.
>
>
> +1, Eric.
>
> To make it clear, let's change the words here. Let's say that some  
> other CG is working on, say, a new installer
>
> - OGB asks CG to design a new installer
> - CG goes and does it, comes back with a result
> - OGB says "thank-you" and gives it a stamp of approval.
>
> This sounds outrageous, no?  So why should the expert work product of  
> the Advocacy CG be subject to either a commissioning step or of an  
> approval step by the OGB, which exists only to resolve disputes.


In this case, who is likely to be doing the work, someone at
Sun or someone outside of Sun?

In the case where it is someone inside of Sun, they end up
getting a "reward" (salary) for their effort.  For better or
worse, one way of looking at all of us inside Sun working
on nevada is being paid to work on OpenSolaris.  Since
this is roughly comensurate with how a good number of
Linux kernel hackers also operate, there isn't anything
especially wrong with it.  So far so good.

And if we're expecting people outside of Sun to participate
in a core role, such as a mascot/logo then it stands to reason
there should be some direct benefit to them too, no?

What we have to reconcile here is what we want/need with
what people are willing to give (for free.)

Open source works because a lot of people are willing to
contribute _code_ for free because there a lot of people
who believe in that.  I don't know that there are as many
"open source" artists, do you?

Darren