[advocacy-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

[Sara Dornsife]

Bryan Cantrill wrote:
> Ian,
>
>   
>> All right.
>>
>> I don't even know where to begin.
>>
>> Does it matter at all that the feedback outside this community to
>> the idea that we're producing a binary distribution called
>> OpenSolaris has almost universally been: "Duh. What took so long?"
>>
>> Does it matter that the initial feedback on the Developer Preview
>> has been overwhelming positive, that so many more people in the
>> world are talking about OpenSolaris--that the approach is WORKING?
>>
>> Does it matter that we literally MOVED MOUNTAINS to get to where we
>> are today.. To create this community in the first place, to free the IP,
>> to reprioritize, to get the vast resources Sun dedicates to Solaris
>> focused on doing their work in the open, to evangelize within the
>> company the importance of continuing to open up such that those outside
>> of Sun can participate in future development on an equal footing?
>>
>> Does it matter that we are inviting the community to participate
>> in a discussion about how to enable broader use of the OpenSolaris
>> brand, to build out a ecosystem of distributions that are compatible,
>> to solve the Linux fragmentation problem before it even becomes
>> a problem? What other company has done this? Shouldn't we be applauded
>> for being willing to take this step--or is this just another
>> case of Sun being held to a much different standard than everyone else?
>>
>> And, yes, does it matter that Sun holds a large stake in this
>> community, PAYS the vast majority of people here for the privilege of
>> being able to spend their days doing what they love, gets flamed
>> repeatedly by many of those same people for our trouble, and in return
>> thinks it reasonable to have _some_ say in how the community functions?
>> Or is that a sign of evil intentions? Do we have to completely
>> abdicate to "be community"? Isn't that taxation without representation?
>>
>> Or is all that insignificant, irrelevant? We haven't given everything,
>> so therefore we've given nothing?
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Not in the least bit.
>>     
>
> I assume that you actually _do_ get it -- that your plea of ignorance is
> rhetorical ploy and not an actual confession of limited mental capacity --
> but for the sake of argument, allow me to clarify:  the issue is
> nomenclature.  That's it; it's not more complicated than that.  As members
> of our community's elected body have made exhaustively clear, there is
> a consensus that a single OpenSolaris-derived distribution -- even one
> emanating from Sun -- should not have exclusive use of the name
> "OpenSolaris".  That is, a distribution should be allowed to be derived
> from OpenSolaris, but no one distribution should be allowed to simply
> _be_ OpenSolaris.  
>   

There has absolutely not been consensus reached.

> So I guess it's my turn to say that I don't get it:  given that this is
> such a small issue -- and one in which our elected body is so clearly
> speaking with one voice -- why do you insist on persisting down what is
> clearly such a divisive path?
>   

This is obviously NOT a small issue.

> 	- Bryan
>
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