[advocacy-discuss] Corporate Open Source

[Shawn Walker]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> "Shawn Walker" <swalker at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>
>  > Part of it is technical problems -- at least when it comes to ON.
>  > Mercurial and assorted tools only reached maturity for use recently.
>
>  If we did use an upgraded SCCS and base things on collaboration, this
>  "technical problem" could have been solved a year ago already. Somebody did
>  chose a solution that is extremely expensive in comparison to upgrading SCCS.
>  Even this fact proves that the base problem is not of technical nature.....

That would be your choice, but the community made a different choice.
Both for the goals of this project and other reasons, Mercurial was
selected. Mercurial was much closer to what was needed than SCCS at
the time the decision was made. The expense of the solution is
irrelevant, the Tools CG made their decision, and Sun supported it by
adopting that decision internally.

>  > >  Claiming that collaboration with OpenSolaris can only happen on the
>  > >  OpenSolaris.org portal is a mistake. This is an attempt to patronize the
>  > >  community.
>  >
>  > I've never seen that claimed, but the collaboration should flow
>
>  This looks strange, did you never read the mail you wrote?
>
>  If you have problems to remember, look e.g. at the thread that contains this:
>  b9c544f0802210824i7df0b057o1513e6b137346575 at mail.gmail.com mail.

I see nothing in that message where I stated that "collaboration with
OpenSolaris can only happen on the OpenSolaris.org portal."

Regardless, it remains my firm belief that effective, useful
collaboration can only happen through the OpenSolaris Community. As
such, the way to communicate with the community, in full view of
others, is through whatever portal this community chooses to use.

>  > through and be centered around the community. To coordinate something,
>  > you must do so inevitably from a central location.
>  >
>  > The OpenSolaris websites makes the most sense as that location...
>
>  OpenSolaris projects existed long before opensolaris.org became accessible by
>  anyone and this was still long before opensolaris.org became writable by
>  communities. If you were a shepherd, would you claim that it makes most sense
>  to have all sheeps of the world on your willow?

Analogies aside; it is impractical to coordinate things without a
centralised communication place; the current OpenSolaris.org website
represents such a place.

-- 
Shawn Walker

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben