[advocacy-discuss] Logo Feedback

[Shawn Walker]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Laurent Blume <laurent at opensolaris.org> wrote:
> Glynn Foster a écrit :
>
> > Prompted by Rafael's blog.
>
>  A very interesting entry indeed.
>
>
>  > I haven't replied to this because I don't know definitively. Initially it will
>  > be included in the OpenSolaris OS binary distribution in presumably the usual
>  > locations (login screen, desktop background, etc.. )
>  >
>  > There's no current plans, that I know of, to put it onto opensolaris.org, but I
>  > wouldn't discard that possibility if the chosen logo takes hold.
>
>  So what you're saying here, is that those logos have nothing to do at
>  this point with the OpenSolaris Community? That now, for Sun,
>  «OpenSolaris» means the Sun binary distribution also known as Indiana?

Sun, as the owner of the OpenSolaris trademark, is exercising their
right to determine what is called OpenSolaris and in what way it may
be applied.

>  And that Sun is the only decider on this, though kind enough to let the
>  Community preview the logos in advance?

When you put that way, it isn't very fair. The correct statement would be:

"Sun values community input and is seeking feedback from members of
the OpenSolaris community to assist them in making a decision related
to their projects."

Sun is not obligated to take community input at all, the fact that
they are asking for it should show you they care about what we think.

>  Are we now some kind of focus group to test Sun's PR before it gets
>  rolled out to the public?

That's a negative way to look at it.

I would expect any member (or Community Group) that is part of the
OpenSolaris community to seek community input before making decisions.

>  I am not disregarding the hard work of all the Sun employees. But I
>  thought OpenSolaris was first about building a Community, where Sun
>  would be a member not more equal than others.

Anytime you try to measure things by "equality" in a project, you will
always fail.

Sun's actions regarding their trademark are completely within their
discretion and it is entirely unfair of you to attempt to equate their
rightful exercise as the trademark owner as somehow making them more
equal.

(Just as the Fedora, Ubuntu, and other communities are all subject to
the decision of RedHat, and Canonical, respectively.)

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben