[advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Toshiba Laptops Now Available in US!

[Uros Nedic]

  I'm very glad that people responded on my idea. But also I have to say
that my 'original' idea is not to put OpenSolaris on unstable laptops.

  Personally, I respect OpenSolaris because it has potential to be more
stable than any other OS for microcomputers, because kernel has been
done and maintained for years by professionals and is far more stable
than Linux or Windows.

  My idea is to establish cooperation with other vendors. I mentioned
Fujitsu&Siemens because they released very reliable laptops (not nettops!)
with significantly lower price. Maybe SUN has problem with ATI drivers?
Or they couldn't establish cooperation with Fujitsu&Siemens? 

  For example, F&S Amilo Pa 3553 (AMD/ATI CPU/GPU with high quality
motherboard chipset - AMD Turion X2 RZ-70 CPU, 320GB hard drive, 4GB DDR2
RAM,
ATI Mobility Radeon 3850 HD with 256MB DDR3 RAM graphics card, glossy 15,1"
screen size,...) costs less than 550 EUR in my country. I think that this is
very good laptop and certainly not nettop.

Uros

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan.Roberts at Sun.COM [mailto:Dan.Roberts at Sun.COM] 
Sent: April 2, 2009 2:30 AM
To: James Dickens
Cc: Uros Nedic; ADVOCACY-DISCUSS
Subject: Re: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Toshiba Laptops Now Available in
US!

Getting a low end system is the highest priority add right now, issue  
has been how these are built.  All the vendors get their low end  
systems built by low cost factories on razor thin or negative  
margins.  They swap in and out components based on whatever is cheaper  
that week.  Given we're still building out the driver support we need,  
we couldn't afford to have a IO card or video card suddenly not work  
out of the box for a couple of weeks or months until a driver could be  
written.  We choose these systems for the stability of the components  
as well.  Will cheaper laptop work in some cases?  Sure.  But in some  
cases they won't, and this was about ensuring folks have a first class  
experience on a stable platform.

Fortunately with the all Atom based netbooks now, we have a single  
chip set we support today and have a great relationship with Intel to  
ensure we can continue supporting moving forward.

Dan


On Apr 1, 2009, at 5:01 PM, James Dickens wrote:

> should picked at least one low end laptop for the community members  
> who aren't rolling in the money, I just bought a HP laptop because  
> it had all the features I wanted, and even splurging a bit, it was  
> still $500 less than cheapest toshiba's in that list.
>
>
> James Dickens
> Uadmin.blogspot.com
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Dan Roberts <Dan.Roberts at sun.com>  
> wrote:
> Toshiba has netbooks to 17+ inch systems at all price points, we had  
> to choose a few to start with and will grow it from there as well.  
> Lots more planned if we can make this successful.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Uros Nedic <urosn at live.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Price is a little bit expensive, and Fujitsu&Siemens Amilo series
> (Pa 3553, for example, among others) with AMD/ATI CPU/GPU could be
> bought cheaper (more than 30%).
>
>  You should establish cooperation with F&S. Also, they produce laptops
> with 15.1" and Toshiba's are 14.1" in screen size.
>
>  This business model won't work at the long term.
>
> Uros,
> Belgrade, Serbia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: advocacy-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org
> [mailto:advocacy-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dan  
> Roberts
> Sent: April 1, 2009 9:31 PM
> To: OpenSolaris Advocacy; Open Solaris
> Subject: [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Toshiba Laptops Now  
> Available in US!
>
> Very happy to announce the OpenSolaris Toshiba laptops are now
> available for purchase in the US via the OpenSolaris.com shop site,
> see OpenSolaris.com for details.  Availability is in the US only to
> start, we're targeting adding the UK in about 1 month and we're
> working hard to expand world-wide later this year once we have the
> support chains worked out with the Toshiba folks.
>
> Links to the product details page, as well as to the specific laptops
> (Tecra M10 and Portege R600) are available below...
> http://www.opensolaris.com/toshibanotebook/
>
> I got my R600 last week, and I have to say while there are a few rough
> edges we're continuing to work out, it's pretty sweet.  Be sure to
> check out the page above as well for Getting Started info which
> includes some little gotchas you can easily work around on these an
> other similar laptops you might be running.
>
> Dan
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