[arc-discuss] Re: [osol-arc] restrictive email alias posting rules on OS.o are impacting open ARC discussions (eg. PSARC-EXT 2006/550 - ksh93)...

[John Plocher]

[reduced audience]

>John> vectoring all the OS.o mailing lists thru Sun's spam firewall....
>
>Can you explain in more detail how that would work?
>  
>

I don't know how it works today, but mail destined for 
"john.plocher at sun.com"
goes thru a spam filter before it reaches my inbox.

It shouldn't be difficult to extend that mechanism to include 
"*@opensolaris.org".

(i.e., it is some combination of MX records + Sun IT politics)

>AFAICT, this behavior is not something we can change using the mailman
>admin interface.
>  
>
OK, that still isn't a reason to not fix the problem...

>John> This is easy - you send a comment to the open solaris ARC about
>John> ksh93, but you are not on the ksh93-interest alias, so your mail
>John> doesn't go to that alias.  
>
>Okay, I misunderstood your requirement.  I believe that this requirement
>would be satisfied by the much-discussed-but-not-yet-implemented
>approach of letting anyone who is subscribed to any opensolaris.org list
>post to any other non-moderated opensolaris.org list.
>  
>

As I said in another thread, this still isn't enough.

Mail from you and I will get thru in that case because we have personal 
subscriptions to some other OS.o alias.

Infrastructure generated mail from "sacadm at sac" won't get thru (though 
this could be special cased easily with sacadmin subscribing to a dummy 
alias...)

Worse, though, is that mail from people who need to be part of the 
conversation, but are not themselves members of any OS.o alias will be 
stuck.  This population includes all the Sun engineers who are not OS.o 
subscribers as well as people from other FOSS efforts who are themselves 
not OS.o members.  An example[*] could be bringing David Korn into the 
ksh93 conversation without first requiring that he subscribe to the 
ksh93-interest at os.o alias.  It is this balkanization of the engineering 
community that bothers me most.

  -John

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[*] The example presumes that David hadn't already been a member of the 
ksh93-interest alias, but you get the idea.