[arc-discuss] The relationship between OpenSolaris and ARC

[Darren Reed]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Darren Reed <Darren.Reed at Sun.COM> wrote:
>
>   
>> There are some interesting things going on here...
>> 1) various people inside OS believe that Joerg should
>>    integrate (or request the integration of) his tools
>>    himself;
>> 2) it would appear that Joerg doesn't want to do that
>>    dance himself;
>>     
>
> Here seems to be a missunderstanding: I would if I could but I can't.
>
> Correct would be: "can't do the dance alone/himself".
>
> But see also below.
> ...
> There are different possible levels of interaction.
>
> a)	Do everything by your own
> 	This works if you can do all needed decisions for the
> 	way of integration also.
>
> b)	Discuss the problems and do cooperated work
> 	If other people define constraints, this is the most probable
> 	way to go.
>
> c)	Sit and wait until it has been done by others
> 	This is the only way to do it if interaction is impossible.
>   

With respect to having star, etc, integrated into OpenSolaris, I've seen
Garrett offer to help you (as a PSARC intern for the PSARCy bits),
is there any reason why you haven't taken up his offer?


>> Note that (2) applies more to individual works, such as
>> star/mkisofs, etc, rather than work done for a larger open
>> source project.
>>     
>
> Could you explain this, what do you call "a larger open source project"?
> ...
> I would really be interested to know what you call "a larger open source 
> project" and why you do so.
>   

What I mean by this is:
OpenSolaris
FreeBSD
NetBSD
etc.

Open source projects that have both a largish contributor base
and diverse origins for their source code.


>> For (3), Joerg has to stop thinking everyone is out to get
>> him.  I often think the same because of the shifting sands
>> that are the header files and interfaces for networking
>> across open source os's but get over it with some (sometimes
>> loud) swearing at the monitor or occasionally in email and
>> then let it go.
>>     
>
> One big problem in the past was that a few people started personal attacks
> in a technical discussion.
>   

PLEASE, please, I beg of you, just ignore them.

Responding to them in *any* manner just adds fuel to the fire.

Let them be the idiot, not you.

Darren