[arc-discuss] [osol-discuss] Project planning and ARC/no-ARC integration (was "was Alpine, now Exim...")

[Dennis Clarke]

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM, James Carlson <james.d.carlson at sun.com> wrote:
> Dennis Clarke writes:
>  > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:21 PM, James Carlson <james.d.carlson at sun.com> wrote:
>
> > >  I think "FOSS" is a red herring here.
>  > >
>  > >  The problem is with projects that duplicate effort, no matter how they
>  > >  do it or where they find the source or what license it may have.
>  >
>  > ahhh well now. You can not stop duplication. It happens and if you
>  > reach into far flung places with your OS then you will get people all
>  > over the place duplicating stuff. No way to stop that really.
>
>  Knowing, intentional duplication is one thing.

yep .. that falls into a category I refer to as "stoopid".
I'm guilty of that too.

>  What the previous poster was concerned about was _unintentional_
>  duplication -- i.e., two people trying to port over the same bit of
>  FOSS because they don't know about each other's work.  That's just a
>  waste of time, and should be relatively easy to detect and correct.
>
>  Nobody can stop "far flung" duplication.  But those projects that
>  participate in ARC review (and intentionally follow ARC-early,
>  ARC-often) get some protection against the same thing happening within
>  the confines of OpenSolaris.  As long as others are playing the same
>  game, of course.
>
>  A dashboard would provide even better awareness of what's going on,
>  and would potentially offer a way to fix problems (like "stuck"
>  project teams) that the ARC does not and cannot solve.

dashboard ... let me think about that. I feel a Java app in my brain somewhere.
Or pure C and some CGI/Apache work.  hrmmmm .. coffee needed to get a
prototype done
and not .. today. nope.

>  > >  If it's a secret project, there'll be no announcement.  I think that,
>  > >  as an OpenSolaris matter, "secret" projects are on their own.  I wish
>  > >  'em luck, but I see no need or reason for the community to coordinate
>  > >  any of its effort with anyone who isn't part of the community.
>  >
>  > well gee ... you can always hold the door open and let them walk in.
>  > If they choose to not walk in .. they may still be a community member.
>  > Not sure how you define community.
>
>  If they're working in secret, I don't think the open community on
>  opensolaris.org owes them a quarter.

right. not even a penny.

>  > >  Given that we have no such repository, I think establishing the
>  > >  repository in question (and the rules that govern it) is probably the
>  > >  first important task.  It's hard to say what the expectation might be
>  > >  for a process that doesn't exist.
>  >
>  > I may have some input there.
>
>  Have at it; it's not the sort of issue I have the time or expertise to
>  solve.

I have neither .. but that hasn't stopped me before.

Dennis