From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 23:22:10 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:52:10 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] belenix-dev is now operational... Message-ID: <319ee2b10803172322h2409df63s4bcb6e6421554441@mail.gmail.com> ....the discussion list is open for activity. This is a test mail. -Shiv From anil.verve at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 01:01:06 2008 From: anil.verve at gmail.com (Anil Gulecha) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:31:06 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop Message-ID: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, To start of discussions , I wanted to propose addition of the following small tool to BeleniX 0.7. It is a low effort, high impact feature, and one of the reasons why all of you should start hanging out at #belenix on freenode. Double clickin on this icon, will start Kopete with #belenix. The code is at http://svn.sabayonlinux.org/listing.php?repname=Sabayon+Linux+Projects&path=%2Fget-live-help%2F#_get-live-help_ Another desktop enhancement required is the default theme, which has remained the same since 0.4. Thus the distro doesnt "feel" new. Sriram's KDE theme on his Mac looks good. Sriram, can you point us to the theme online? Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? Regards Anil From moinakg at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 03:01:01 2008 From: moinakg at gmail.com (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:31:01 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46fe20470803180301r2ccc745dh59e9f36bae64ab67@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Anil Gulecha wrote: > Hi All, > > To start of discussions , I wanted to propose addition of the > following small tool to BeleniX 0.7. It is a low effort, high impact > feature, and one of the reasons why all of you should start hanging > out at #belenix on freenode. Double clickin on this icon, will start > Kopete with #belenix. > > The code is at > > http://svn.sabayonlinux.org/listing.php?repname=Sabayon+Linux+Projects&path=%2Fget-live-help%2F#_get-live-help_ Simple matter of adding a .desktop file and a script to the FSWlivecdctools package. > > > Another desktop enhancement required is the default theme, which has > remained the same since 0.4. Thus the distro doesnt "feel" new. > Sriram's KDE theme on his Mac looks good. Sriram, can you point us to > the theme online? I setup that theme on his laptop after browsing through kde-look.org but do not remember the name right now. I will try to find it out if Sriram has forgotten as well. Regards, Moinak. > > Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? > > Regards > Anil > _______________________________________________ > belenix-dev mailing list > belenix-dev at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/belenix-dev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ananth.shrinivas at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 11:12:41 2008 From: ananth.shrinivas at gmail.com (Ananth Shrinivas) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:42:41 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > > Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? > > * TastyMenu [1] as a replacement for the KDE Menu in the default panel configuration. I have already committed the spec file into SFE. (Tried KBFX too - but found it way too buggy - crashes kicker every once in a while) * Managed to port ksmoothdock [2] too. But it looks slightly unpolished to me. Any second opinions ? * The wonderful KDM as the Login Manager - Moinak already has the SMF manifests ready I think. * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] Other possibilities: * Apply some uniform theming to major KDE apps like Kopete, Amarok, K3B, ... ? * BeleniX themed KSplash, KDM and background logos ? * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. Needs zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try setting this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for debugging failures ? [1] - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41866 [2] - http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KSmoothDock?content=6585 [3] - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=64392 All said and done, the one application I really miss on my current SXDE/KDE laptop is a Network Manager (including wireless networks) that is better than Inetmenu. The NWAM project plans to integrate an admin GUI in b90 but thats GTK+ and unless gnome-settings-daemon is running, GNOME apps look like ugly bitches on KDE. Ananth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From anil.verve at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 21:03:10 2008 From: anil.verve at gmail.com (Anil Gulecha) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:33:10 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> Very cool enhancements. My thoughts inline. On 3/18/08, Ananth Shrinivas wrote: > > > > > Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? > > > > > > * TastyMenu [1] as a replacement for the KDE Menu in the default panel > configuration. I have already committed the spec file into SFE. It looks good, but how intuitive is it. The Current menu will be very familiar to Windows users. If you've used it, can you you coment hom how it has made things easy for you? > (Tried KBFX too - but found it way too buggy - crashes kicker every once > in a while) > > * Managed to port ksmoothdock [2] too. But it looks slightly unpolished to > me. Any second opinions ? > I like it. I think we should use this for that fresh new look. > * The wonderful KDM as the Login Manager - Moinak already has the SMF > manifests ready I think. > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. > > Other possibilities: > > * Apply some uniform theming to major KDE apps like Kopete, Amarok, K3B, ... > ? > > * BeleniX themed KSplash, KDM and background logos ? Yes! > > * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. Needs > zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try setting > this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for > debugging failures ? > Yes! But Belenix prompts a couple of times during bootup.. can the graphical bootup handle this? Another enhancement I've been talking about with Moiank is how we can remove user interaction with (a majority of) users during bootup. *Grub can be set to a 3 second timeout, defaulting to first entry. *Keyboard selects US-English by default, with 3 second timeout for the user. *Desktop goes to KDE, 3 second timeout. *3 second timeout to enter the x configuration menu. Thus a user only has to pop in the CD and boot off it, go have a cuppa coffee, and return to a full fledged desktop. > All said and done, the one application I really miss on my current SXDE/KDE > laptop is a Network Manager (including wireless networks) that is better > than Inetmenu. The NWAM project plans to integrate an admin GUI in b90 but > thats GTK+ and unless gnome-settings-daemon is running, GNOME apps look like > ugly bitches on KDE. KDE has its own network manager, but the last i checked, it complained "distro unknown", and asked me to select from a list of linux distros. Anyone know if we can add belenix to it? Anil From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 22:55:02 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:25:02 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] PyQT - spec files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <319ee2b10803182255xe8eb0cfjf4c7fb8f308c90df@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Ananth Shrinivas wrote: > Trying to get spec files made for Python Qt Bindings. > > http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/ > > The SIP dependency was easy but PyQt needs a few hacks and me hasn't gotten > around to putting them into a spec. > > If anyone is interested let me know, I can give you the SIP spec file. Cause > I can't spare any time in the next couple of weeks :-( > Can you push SIP into pkgbuild's repo. I will have a look when I get around to it. Also as an general approach do we need to favor any one of the GUI tool kits and related bindings (PyQt or PyGtk). There can be arguments on either side. -Shiv From ananth.shrinivas at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 02:12:37 2008 From: ananth.shrinivas at gmail.com (Ananth Shrinivas) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:42:37 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Anil, > > * TastyMenu [1] as a replacement for the KDE Menu in the default panel > > configuration. I have already committed the spec file into SFE. > > It looks good, but how intuitive is it. The Current menu will be very > familiar to Windows users. If you've used it, can you you coment hom > how it has made things easy for you? The menu size is configurable for a change. It can be anything from 20% to 100% the screen size. Different users like different real estate sizes for menus. Me prefers around 67%. The search bar in the menu is insanely useful ! It looks like the Vista Menu for those lusting after it. > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] > > Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They > plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding > new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. +1 Bitstream Vera Sans for Sans Serif Bitstream Vera Sans Mono for Monospace fonts. But I vaguely remember reading something about patenting issues with Bitstream* (which is why Linux distros don't ship it by default) > * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. Needs > > zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try > setting > > this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for > > debugging failures ? > > > Yes! But Belenix prompts a couple of times during bootup.. can the > graphical bootup handle this? Ah forgot about the prompts. Nope, I don't see graphical boot coming up then. (Unless we manage to defer the Keyboard selection after X starts (like Caiman) and also ensure a fail-safe VESA fallback in case X itself has problems) Another enhancement I've been talking about with Moiank is how we can > remove user interaction with (a majority of) users during bootup. > > *Grub can be set to a 3 second timeout, defaulting to first entry. > *Keyboard selects US-English by default, with 3 second timeout for the > user. > *Desktop goes to KDE, 3 second timeout. > *3 second timeout to enter the x configuration menu. > > Thus a user only has to pop in the CD and boot off it, go have a cuppa > coffee, and return to a full fledged desktop. Sounds good. > > > > All said and done, the one application I really miss on my current > SXDE/KDE > > laptop is a Network Manager (including wireless networks) that is better > > than Inetmenu. The NWAM project plans to integrate an admin GUI in b90 > but > > thats GTK+ and unless gnome-settings-daemon is running, GNOME apps look > like > > ugly bitches on KDE. > > KDE has its own network manager, but the last i checked, it complained > "distro unknown", and asked me to select from a list of linux distros. > Anyone know if we can add belenix to it? > Yeah I guess we need to write code in the Network Manager control center applet to make it recognize "belenix" and how do deal with the Ethernet/Wireless interfaces on a BeleniX host. Ananth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moinakg at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 02:12:53 2008 From: moinakg at gmail.com (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:42:53 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46fe20470803190212g24c26992j2f9283754117ee1c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Anil Gulecha wrote: > Very cool enhancements. My thoughts inline. > > On 3/18/08, Ananth Shrinivas wrote: > > > > > > > > Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? > > > > > > > > > > * TastyMenu [1] as a replacement for the KDE Menu in the default panel > > configuration. I have already committed the spec file into SFE. > > It looks good, but how intuitive is it. The Current menu will be very > familiar to Windows users. If you've used it, can you you coment hom > how it has made things easy for you? The Linux distros (Sabayon for eg.) seem to be adopting it. > > > > (Tried KBFX too - but found it way too buggy - crashes kicker every > once > > in a while) > > > > * Managed to port ksmoothdock [2] too. But it looks slightly unpolished > to > > me. Any second opinions ? > > > I like it. I think we should use this for that fresh new look. > > > * The wonderful KDM as the Login Manager - Moinak already has the SMF > > manifests ready I think. > > > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] > > Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They > plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding > new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. Yes SMF manifest is ready and already in the KDE packages I handed out. Just need to pre-package a proper kdmrc and patched generic_*.xml profiles to enable kdm instead of gdm. > > > > > > Other possibilities: > > > > * Apply some uniform theming to major KDE apps like Kopete, Amarok, K3B, > ... > > ? > > > > * BeleniX themed KSplash, KDM and background logos ? > Yes! > > > > * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. > Needs > > zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try > setting > > this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for > > debugging failures ? > > > Yes! But Belenix prompts a couple of times during bootup.. can the > graphical bootup handle this? > > Another enhancement I've been talking about with Moiank is how we can > remove user interaction with (a majority of) users during bootup. > > *Grub can be set to a 3 second timeout, defaulting to first entry. > *Keyboard selects US-English by default, with 3 second timeout for the > user. > *Desktop goes to KDE, 3 second timeout. > *3 second timeout to enter the x configuration menu. > > Thus a user only has to pop in the CD and boot off it, go have a cuppa > coffee, and return to a full fledged desktop. I am removing the X config prompt from 0.7. I don't think this is needed any more since the Xorg autoconfig has been steadily improving. We actually need another GRUB menu enhancement. The default menu should be just 2 entries: one default boot and one more options with a default boot timeout of 5 secs (3 is too less). Selecting more options brings up another GRUB menu with lots of options. Maybe we can have the desktop selection in this GRUB menu itself dispensing with the dialog box. > > > > All said and done, the one application I really miss on my current > SXDE/KDE > > laptop is a Network Manager (including wireless networks) that is better > > than Inetmenu. The NWAM project plans to integrate an admin GUI in b90 > but > > thats GTK+ and unless gnome-settings-daemon is running, GNOME apps look > like > > ugly bitches on KDE. > > KDE has its own network manager, but the last i checked, it complained > "distro unknown", and asked me to select from a list of linux distros. > Anyone know if we can add belenix to it? Will need porting I think. Regards, Moinak. > > > Anil > _______________________________________________ > belenix-dev mailing list > belenix-dev at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/belenix-dev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moinakg at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 02:12:53 2008 From: moinakg at gmail.com (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:42:53 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46fe20470803190212g24c26992j2f9283754117ee1c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Anil Gulecha wrote: > Very cool enhancements. My thoughts inline. > > On 3/18/08, Ananth Shrinivas wrote: > > > > > > > > Any other desktop enhancements people have in mind? > > > > > > > > > > * TastyMenu [1] as a replacement for the KDE Menu in the default panel > > configuration. I have already committed the spec file into SFE. > > It looks good, but how intuitive is it. The Current menu will be very > familiar to Windows users. If you've used it, can you you coment hom > how it has made things easy for you? The Linux distros (Sabayon for eg.) seem to be adopting it. > > > > (Tried KBFX too - but found it way too buggy - crashes kicker every > once > > in a while) > > > > * Managed to port ksmoothdock [2] too. But it looks slightly unpolished > to > > me. Any second opinions ? > > > I like it. I think we should use this for that fresh new look. > > > * The wonderful KDM as the Login Manager - Moinak already has the SMF > > manifests ready I think. > > > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] > > Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They > plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding > new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. Yes SMF manifest is ready and already in the KDE packages I handed out. Just need to pre-package a proper kdmrc and patched generic_*.xml profiles to enable kdm instead of gdm. > > > > > > Other possibilities: > > > > * Apply some uniform theming to major KDE apps like Kopete, Amarok, K3B, > ... > > ? > > > > * BeleniX themed KSplash, KDM and background logos ? > Yes! > > > > * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. > Needs > > zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try > setting > > this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for > > debugging failures ? > > > Yes! But Belenix prompts a couple of times during bootup.. can the > graphical bootup handle this? > > Another enhancement I've been talking about with Moiank is how we can > remove user interaction with (a majority of) users during bootup. > > *Grub can be set to a 3 second timeout, defaulting to first entry. > *Keyboard selects US-English by default, with 3 second timeout for the > user. > *Desktop goes to KDE, 3 second timeout. > *3 second timeout to enter the x configuration menu. > > Thus a user only has to pop in the CD and boot off it, go have a cuppa > coffee, and return to a full fledged desktop. I am removing the X config prompt from 0.7. I don't think this is needed any more since the Xorg autoconfig has been steadily improving. We actually need another GRUB menu enhancement. The default menu should be just 2 entries: one default boot and one more options with a default boot timeout of 5 secs (3 is too less). Selecting more options brings up another GRUB menu with lots of options. Maybe we can have the desktop selection in this GRUB menu itself dispensing with the dialog box. > > > > All said and done, the one application I really miss on my current > SXDE/KDE > > laptop is a Network Manager (including wireless networks) that is better > > than Inetmenu. The NWAM project plans to integrate an admin GUI in b90 > but > > thats GTK+ and unless gnome-settings-daemon is running, GNOME apps look > like > > ugly bitches on KDE. > > KDE has its own network manager, but the last i checked, it complained > "distro unknown", and asked me to select from a list of linux distros. > Anyone know if we can add belenix to it? Will need porting I think. 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URL: From shivakumar.gn at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 03:31:32 2008 From: shivakumar.gn at gmail.com (S h i v) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:01:32 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: <46fe20470803190212g24c26992j2f9283754117ee1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> <46fe20470803190212g24c26992j2f9283754117ee1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <319ee2b10803190331t2bd29dd6j5e480e0fe383a47e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Anil Gulecha wrote: > > > > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] > > > > Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They > > plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding > > new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. > * Also have a look at the liberation fonts (Sans, Serif and Mono). These are already available in the belenix spec file repository. I have that as my current default and it looks real nice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts). This has had its share of licensing discussions on debian lists. These are under GPL with 2 exceptions - first as suggested by FSF for font embedding and second is to bring in GPLv3 related clause). Should be ok with us. * Have bash auto-completions customized for few of the commands. This makes using command line more enjoyable. User doesn't need to hunt for the options. To start with I intend to provide it for few of them. Ground to cover. [1] frequently used commands [2] Solaris specific commands [3] Any belenix specific tools These are captured at http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Belenix:_Nice_to_have_Features Feel free to add/remove/modify. -Shiv From moinakg at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 05:26:31 2008 From: moinakg at gmail.com (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:56:31 +0530 Subject: [belenix-dev] First mail: Add Sabayon like live-help to BeleniX Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <148d59250803180101m6eeb8c99tbae24f005940a4c2@mail.gmail.com> <148d59250803182103y597a524cqdc1d228c3132dff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46fe20470803190526v45e8d72bt3524f83b6ed1f77f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Ananth Shrinivas < ananth.shrinivas at gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Anil, > [...] > > > > > > * Modify Firefox widgets to look like KDE widgets [3] > > > > Yes! Another area we _need_ to improve is the default fonts. They > > plain suck, atleast in firefox.I'm not sure if this involves adding > > new fonts, or changing settings somewhere. > > > +1 > Bitstream Vera Sans for Sans Serif > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono for Monospace fonts. > > But I vaguely remember reading something about patenting issues with > Bitstream* (which is why Linux distros don't ship it by default) > DejaVU fonts are a new improved set. Looks real nice. Included in FOX. > > > > * I tend to use -B graphics=console for the graphical genunix boot. > > Needs > > > zero boot-archive changes (only grub changes). Maybe we could try > > setting > > > this as the default GRUB entry and also have a non-graphical entry for > > > debugging failures ? > > > > > Yes! But Belenix prompts a couple of times during bootup.. can the > > graphical bootup handle this? > > > > Ah forgot about the prompts. Nope, I don't see graphical boot coming up > then. > (Unless we manage to defer the Keyboard selection after X starts (like > Caiman) and also ensure a fail-safe VESA fallback in case X itself has > problems) > I was thinking of something different. X can be started very early on during boot. Why not start X with Vesa forced and show boot progress till the login manager comes up and starts another X with the proper drivers. However this is good for harddisk installed env, may not be good for LiveCD. Regards, Moinak. > Ananth > > > _______________________________________________ > belenix-dev mailing list > belenix-dev at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/belenix-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: