[cab-discuss] OGB Charter v2.3

[Stephen Hahn]

* Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM> [2005-11-02 13:16]:
> Stephen Hahn wrote On 11/02/05 12:17,:
> > * Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM> [2005-11-02 07:42]:
> > 
> >>So if I'm understanding this, the Charter:
> >>
> >>- states that there is an OpenSolaris project,
> >>- contains words about what that project is about at a very high level;
> >>- states that the management of the project is directed by the OGB and
> >>that the OGB represents the community.
> >>
> >>The detail about how the OGB will be staffed, how the OGB will operate,
> >>how the project will be managed, etc. will all be contained in
> >>governance documents.
> >>
> >>If this is what we're doing, I think the charter has to reference the
> >>governance documents.
> >>
> >>I don't really like documents referencing other documents, but in this
> >>case, it seems necessary.  Because it doesn't seem to be a good idea to
> >>have a document without detail that doesn't say where the detail can be
> >>found.
> > 
> >  
> >   What specific aspects of the governance materials does the charter
> >   need to reference?  The charter says, or is supposed to say, however
> >   dramatically, that there is a handoff from the internal authorities
> >   within Sun to the OGB.  The OGB is allowed to define itself and its
> >   practices, with the initial definitions being written by the CAB.
> 
> But the charter makes statements about the OGB and its functions:
> 
> - it focuses and directs the energies of the community
> - it provides guidance and structure for the community
> - its members will honor the community's values in its activities and
> decisions
> - it consists of members elected by the community
> - it has the authority to get involved in all aspects of the project
> 
> These statements raise questions (at least to me).  But in the charter
> there are neither answers to the questions nor a statement about where
> the answers can be found.  I understand the view that perhaps the detail
> shouldn't be in the charter.  But it has to be somewhere.
> 
> So I'm saying I would want to know as I'm reading this document where to
> find the detail.  Even just a sentence at the end that says something
> like "Refer to the OpenSolaris Governance documents for details about
> project management and how the OGB functions."

  I think one way to help the current stuckee(s) would be to share your
  specific questions about these five points, so that they could
  determine whether it is the terms describing entities, the
  relationships between them, or some other aspects that are giving you
  pause.

  I personally disagree with the dependent text you propose, because I
  think the charter must make sense independent of the OGB-developed
  governance, and I would hope that the repository the OGB uses to host
  the collection of organizing documents can provide the navigational
  elements you are seeking.

  - Stephen