[cab-discuss] Draft ballot?

Stephen Hahn sch at eng.sun.com
Mon Feb 5 14:01:17 PST 2007


* Glynn Foster <Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM> [2007-02-05 13:42]:
> Hey,
> 
> Stephen Hahn wrote:
> > * Ian Collins <ian at ianshome.com> [2007-02-05 11:43]:
> >> Sorry, I must have missed that in all the noise.
> >>
> >> I just felt excluded from something I've been contributing as much as I
> >> can to over the past 20 months.
> > 
> >   There are numerous Community Groups out there able to nominate Core
> >   Contributors, including the OGB/CAB.  If your contributions are in a
> >   specific area, I would start a discussion with the existing Core
> >   Contributors there; if you've mostly been in the main forums, then
> >   approach one or more OGB members with your case. 
> 
> Sorry all, but I have to agree with Ian, and I can understand his
> reactions to it [http://www.gnome.org/~gman/blog/26012007]. As I see
> it, it's not a fair reflection of the people involved in the community
> at all - in most cases, it's the result of some pretty bad feedback
> from the various communities, with not a lot of thought going into the
> list and its consequences [1]
> 
> Quite what can be done at this stage, I have no idea.
 
  There is no limit on how persuasive a participant can be; it is quite
  conceivable that an eloquent opponent could argue the 237 Core
  Contributors to vote against Question 1.  I am not sure what we would
  do in that scenario, but it would certainly result in a reset to the
  development of a Constitution.

> [1] And in some ways it's absolutely correct eg. DTrace - Bryan, Adam,
> Mike and Brendan were all *heavily* responsible for the code they
> wrote and they have the right to feel proud of that. On the other
> hand, it's not terribly encouraging to others trying to get more
> involved. I picked DTrace as one example, there's other examples of
> course too (including Desktop).

  I continue to believe that a legitimate course of action is for folks
  who feel disenfranchised to take it up with one or more Community
  Groups, or with the OGB.  If a particular Community Group isn't (or
  its Core Contributors aren't) meeting the expected responsibilities,
  then the Board needs to be alerted:  it can both make Core Contributor
  grants (to allow the election broader representation) and explore
  corrective options for a specific Community Group with problems.

  That's always been my picture of government: complain, contact your
  representative, complain again.  Unheard problems don't get addressed.

  - Stephen

-- 
Stephen Hahn, PhD  Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems
stephen.hahn at sun.com  http://blogs.sun.com/sch/



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