[cab-discuss] Draft ballot?

[Bonnie Corwin]

Richard Lowe wrote:
> Al Hopper wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>
>>> Ian Collins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glynn Foster wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> * Ian Collins <ian at ianshome.com> [2007-02-05 11:43]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, I must have missed that in all the noise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just felt excluded from something I've been contributing as 
>>>>>>> much as I
>>>>>>> can to over the past 20 months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  There are numerous Community Groups out there able to nominate Core
>>>>>>  Contributors, including the OGB/CAB.  If your contributions are in a
>>>>>>  specific area, I would start a discussion with the existing Core
>>>>>>  Contributors there; if you've mostly been in the main forums, then
>>>>>>  approach one or more OGB members with your case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry all, but I have to agree with Ian, and I can understand his 
>>>>> reactions to
>>>>> it [http://www.gnome.org/~gman/blog/26012007]. As I see it, it's 
>>>>> not a fair
>>>>> reflection of the people involved in the community at all - in most 
>>>>> cases, it's
>>>>> the result of some pretty bad feedback from the various 
>>>>> communities, with not a
>>>>> lot of thought going into the list and its consequences [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite what can be done at this stage, I have no idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks Glynn, I wish I'd seen your blog earlier.
>>>>
>>>> While I'm unable to offer an alternative proposition at this stage, I
>>>> think this cause disenfranchises active members of the community who,
>>>> like me, are unable though personal circumstances to devote the time 
>>>> and
>>>> effort required to becoming a core contributor.  It will be seen by the
>>>> world at large as yet another means of keeping non-Sun people out of 
>>>> the
>>>> project governance.
>>>>
>>>> I fear another storm brewing on discuss when this is announced.
>>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> There is another problem, as well.  I suspect some people are not
>>> heavily involved with any single group, yet contribute substantially
>>> towards the overall development of Solaris.
>>>
>>> For example, I have contributed a variety of things to Solaris over the
>>> years, and most recently for OpenSolaris have the following projects
>>> brewing:
>>>
>>> 1) afe network driver integration (possibly also mxfe), and updates to
>>> support Nemo
>>> 2) grand-unification effort for serial drivers (back-burnered ATM, but
>>> not forgotten)
>>> 3) crypto contributions pending (e.g. RNG support for Padlock, that I
>>> hope to post this week)
>>> 4) various bits to improve platform support for Tadpole hardware
>>> 5) possibly going forward improvements to in-kernel framebuffers (e.g. I
>>> wrote NetBSD radeonfb, which I'd like to port to OpenSolaris)
>>> 6) wifi enhancements -- I've got fixes for the PCI prism driver, and
>>> other bits
>>> 7) improvements for PS/2 keyboards
>>> 8) improvements for touchpads
>>> 9) various other minor patches (e.g. rge patch for more NIC support,
>>> xargs, id, and kstat fixes)
>>> 10) forthcoming improvements for power management on SPARC platforms (I
>>> hope)
>>>
>>> Despite all this, no one group recognizes my contribution as qualifying
>>> for Core Contributor.  (The laptop community might recognize me as a
>>> Contributor, but the current list proposed does not go beyond that.)
>>>
>>> I somehow doubt that I'm the only individual that falls "through the
>>> cracks" in the current classification process.
>>
>>
>> Then simply reformat this email and post it to cab-discuss with an
>> appropriate Subject: line (request to be recognized as a core 
>> contributor)
>> and it'll be acted upon.  Any CAB/OBG member can approve the request 
>> and I
>> can tell you that yours and Ians are a no-brainer! :)
>>
> 
> How about, rather than doing this for everyone who happens to notice, 
> someone lean on the communities (again) to get the lists drawn up properly?

I fear I have missed something basic so apologies up front if these are 
stupid questions.

But exactly who draws up each community list using what criteria?  Many 
communities have multiple leaders.  Which leader is expected to submit a 
list?  And are those people working from a set of criteria?  And how are 
projects handled?  Most are affiliated with a community - is it the 
community leader's job to make sure the appropriate people on each 
affiliated project are accounted for (I was surprised to see Roland's 
email to the CAB - I would have expected him to show up on a community 
list that is interested in the ksh93 project)?

I also wonder if the current list should be posted to 
opensolaris-discuss with instructions for who to contact if people think 
they are missing from a list - I believe it's only been posted on 
cab-discuss which has a smaller audience.

Bonnie

> 
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