[cab-discuss] Re: CAB conf call - communication

[Stephen Harpster]

You, like most of the rest of the community, have misconstrued what all 
of this was about.

I simply asked the community what they think about a dual-license.  
Simon and I then asked the FSF and RedMonk what they think about a 
dual-license.  "What do you think of this idea?"  It's a simple 
question.  Gathering data.  We are not trying to take control.  We are 
not trying to displace the OGB. 

You guys are reading WAAAAY too much into all of this.



John Plocher wrote:
> Al Hopper wrote:
>> I'm interested in seeing John Plochers' assessment of this behavior - in
>> terms of how he rates it as good or bad form.
>
>
> -1e06 on form. :-(  You guys are saints compared to this :-)
>
> I am absolutely appalled at this.  Pissed off.  Disappointed.  
> Frustrated.
> Now let me tell you how I really feel!
>
> Obviously, I /am/ concerned about how we ourselves manage ourselves.
> Thus my previous comments about the form of our decicion making
> processes.  That whole thread, though, is an internal squabble
> within our community.
>
> Compared to this, though, it really doesn't matter.
>
> Announcements at an analysts conference, private meetings with the FSF.
> Press releases.  All coming /before/ the OGB was ever formally involved
> in the conversation, and /after/ it was obvious that the community was
> skeptical at best about the idea.  This high handed behavior by Sun's
> Management disappoints me - it implies that they do not consider that
> the OpenSolaris community, thru the OGB, to be a key stakeholder in
> this arena.
>
> It is /EXACTLY/ this behavior (saying one thing publicly, then going off
> and doing something to undermine it) that has created the pervasive
> distrust OF Sun in the open source community. This cancerous feeling 
> that,
> under the public posturing, there is a hidden subversive agenda.
>
> These anouncements, press releases and blogs all seem to say that
> someone /else/ is effectively pretending to speak for us.
>
> In some sense, the tables are turned.  First, we have the OGB speaking
> without Simon.   Now, we seem to have Simon speaking without the OGB.
> It would be humorous if it wasn't so disruptive to our community.
>
> Both of these issues /are/ related.  The CAB/OGB has so far been
> virtually invisible, ineffective and irrelevant.  Sun still has no clue
> as to how they need to be interacting with the OpenSolaris community.
> The community itself is disorganized and frustrated.
>
> If there was ONE thing that the OGB could /do/ with the rest of its
> term, it would be to fix this disconnect and get itself inserted into
> these pre-decision making dialogs that Jonathan and Rich are having. On
> whatever topics de-jour that are relevant.  We need you, the OGB, to
> figure out how to give our community seat, voice and vote in those
> discussions.
>
>   -John
>
>
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Stephen Harpster
Director, Open Source Software
Sun Microsystems, Inc.