From benr at cuddletech.com Mon Sep 10 19:38:05 2007 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:38:05 PDT Subject: [content-discuss] Status Update Message-ID: <1385279.1189478315781.JavaMail.Twebapp@oss-app1> This project has been quite for a while. Last word was that it would be folded into Advocacy. Any update on where thats effort is at? benr. PS: Why is it that every community I was a core contrib on is being folded into Advocacy? I suppose thats actually a good indicator for consolidation, but sucks at election time. ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org From michelle.olson at sun.com Tue Sep 11 10:48:50 2007 From: michelle.olson at sun.com (michelle olson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:48:50 -0700 Subject: [content-discuss] Status Update In-Reply-To: <1385279.1189478315781.JavaMail.Twebapp@oss-app1> References: <1385279.1189478315781.JavaMail.Twebapp@oss-app1> Message-ID: <46E6D502.4020102@sun.com> Hi Ben, This project isn't being folded into advocacy because it already has sponsorship from docs and localization communities. Bill was recently working on an update to his vmware article and nacho was incorporating changes into the Spanish last I heard. I had contacted Eric Lowe about contributing some additional content here, but progress is a bit slow. Any ideas or articles you want to submit for review? It would be a nice little jump-start for us... Thanks, Michelle Ben Rockwood wrote: > This project has been quite for a while. Last word was that it would be folded into Advocacy. > > Any update on where thats effort is at? > > benr. > > PS: Why is it that every community I was a core contrib on is being folded into Advocacy? I suppose thats actually a good indicator for consolidation, but sucks at election time. ;) > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > content-discuss mailing list > content-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/content-discuss > From bill at rushmores.net Wed Sep 12 17:14:58 2007 From: bill at rushmores.net (Bill Rushmore) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:14:58 -0400 Subject: [content-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update Message-ID: <46E88102.2040001@rushmores.net> Below is a preliminary write up for the update to the VMware article. At this point I am looking for technical reviews. In particular if there are any issues or topics that I might have missed that should be addressed. My thought is that I could publish this as a stop gap and then do a complete rewrite of the original article. Bill rushmores.net --------------------------------------------------------------- Installing OpenSolaris on VMware -- Addendum Much has changed since the original version of this article was written from about a year and a half ago. Today Solaris is now officially supported as a guest operating system in VMware. But more importantly there are distributions based on OpenSolaris that offer prebuilt VM images. So if you are someone that just wants to give a OpenSolaris distribution a try then things could not be easier. Just download the Solaris or the Solaris Developer Edition images from here and for a VM image of NexentaOS go here . All the work of getting things working under VMware has been already done you. One other thing of note is that there is a free VM player from VMware so you don't even have to buy anything! Also free is VMware server which used to be called GSX. For some people this might all they might need. If you plan on doing any serious development work with OpenSolaris then most likely you want to install it yourself on VMware Workstation. One warning that should be mentioned. At the time of writing the latest builds of OpenSolaris does not appear to boot on VMware ESX. The last build that I know of that still works is build 57. This is problem is being addressed by the Sun Engineers so hopefully by the time you read this it will be working. If not you will can still use VMware Workstation, Player, or Server. As for installing OpenSolaris on VMware there really isn't anything special. You can just follow the instructions that come with VMware for Solaris 10. In Workstation select Help->Guest Operating System Install Guide. If you are not interested in installing the VMware tools you are done. However, if you plan on doing much interaction with the desktop then for you probably will want to install the tools. However, since VMware only supports Solaris it will have a problem with the installation. Here is a hack to trick the tools installer: 1. Install VMware tools as you normally would but say no to run vmware-config-tools.pl at the end of the install. 2. As root cd into /usr/lib/vmware-tools/configurator/XOrg 3. Create this sym link: ln -s 7.0 7.1 4. Now run vmware-config-tools.pl 5. At some point it will asks where to put the modules, enter this: /usr/X11/lib/modules 6. Do not let it create a xorg.conf file, the one created by the script has errors and will leave you with no X. One more thing to note from the original article, the OpenSolaris installation program has gone through drastic changes. It is much easier now. And nothing in particular unique to VMware for the install. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM Thu Sep 13 11:15:45 2007 From: Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM (Michelle Olson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:15:45 -0700 Subject: [content-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update In-Reply-To: <46E88102.2040001@rushmores.net> References: <46E88102.2040001@rushmores.net> Message-ID: <46E97E51.6080208@Sun.COM> Hi Bill, Thanks for taking time to write up this draft addendum, I agree with your approach. I copy docs-discuss here in order to reach more technical reviewers of the content below. I found one editorial nit: [mo-1] All the work of getting things working under VMware has been already done you. ^for FYI, original article is posted here: http://opensolaris.org/os/article/2006-02-27_getting_started_with_opensolaris_using_vmware/ Thanks in advance to those who can help out with this technical review. Regards, Michelle Bill Rushmore wrote On 09/12/07 05:14 PM,: > Below is a preliminary write up for the update to the VMware article. > At this point I am looking for technical reviews. In particular if > there are any issues or topics that I might have missed that should be > addressed. > > My thought is that I could publish this as a stop gap and then do a > complete rewrite of the original article. > > Bill > rushmores.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Installing OpenSolaris on VMware ? Addendum > > > > Much has changed since the original version of this article was written > from about a year and a half ago. Today Solaris is now officially > supported as a guest operating system in VMware. But more importantly > there are distributions based on OpenSolaris that offer prebuilt VM > images. So if you are someone that just wants to give a OpenSolaris > distribution a try then things could not be easier. Just download the > Solaris or the Solaris Developer Edition images from here > > and for a VM image of NexentaOS go here > . All the work of getting > things working under VMware has been already done you. One other thing > of note is that there is a free VM player from VMware > so you don't even have to buy > anything! Also free is VMware server which used to be called GSX. For > some people this might all they might need. > > > If you plan on doing any serious development work with OpenSolaris then > most likely you want to install it yourself on VMware Workstation. One > warning that should be mentioned. At the time of writing the latest > builds of OpenSolaris does not appear to boot on VMware ESX. The last > build that I know of that still works is build 57. This is problem is > being addressed by the Sun Engineers so hopefully by the time you read > this it will be working. If not you will can still use VMware > Workstation, Player, or Server. > > > As for installing OpenSolaris on VMware there really isn't anything > special. You can just follow the instructions that come with VMware for > Solaris 10. In Workstation select Help->Guest Operating System Install > Guide. If you are not interested in installing the VMware tools you are > done. However, if you plan on doing much interaction with the desktop > then for you probably will want to install the tools. However, since > VMware only supports Solaris it will have a problem with the > installation. Here is a hack to trick the tools installer: > > > 1. Install VMware tools as you normally would but say no to run > vmware-config-tools.pl at the end of the install. > > 2. As root cd into /usr/lib/vmware-tools/configurator/XOrg > > 3. Create this sym link: ln -s 7.0 7.1 > > 4. Now run vmware-config-tools.pl > > 5. At some point it will asks where to put the modules, enter this: > /usr/X11/lib/modules > > 6. Do not let it create a xorg.conf file, the one created by the script > has errors and will leave you with no X. > > > One more thing to note from the original article, the OpenSolaris > installation program has gone through drastic changes. It is much easier > now. And nothing in particular unique to VMware for the install. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > content-discuss mailing list > content-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/content-discuss From bill at rushmores.net Fri Sep 14 09:01:52 2007 From: bill at rushmores.net (Bill Rushmore) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:01:52 -0400 Subject: [content-discuss] [docs-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update In-Reply-To: <701332.54841.qm@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <701332.54841.qm@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46EAB070.6070909@rushmores.net> Eric Lowe wrote: >> warning that should be mentioned. At the time of writing the latest >> builds of OpenSolaris does not appear to boot on VMware ESX. The last >> build that I know of that still works is build 57. This is problem is >> being addressed by the Sun Engineers so hopefully by the time you read >> this it will be working. If not you will can still use VMware >> > > Any idea who is working on this and what the issue is (bug#, etc)? > > I submitted a bug, 6583067. But from what I have been told from Bonnie it is listed as a dup to 6580780. But that is in the Sun internal bug database so I know know much about it. But what I do know is that according to 6580780 it will work if you let the boot up go for an hour or so. But I haven't been able to get it to boot at all, even letting it try all night long. I could help debug this more if needed but unfortunately I really don't know how to get in touch with anyone who is working on this. >> then for you probably will want to install the tools. However, since >> > > Note also if you run Server and use VNC for virtual machine console access, you must install the tools if you want the mouse to work. > > Thank you! This is exactly the type of info I am looking for. Bill rushmores.net From alan.coopersmith at sun.com Fri Sep 14 09:46:03 2007 From: alan.coopersmith at sun.com (Alan Coopersmith) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:46:03 -0700 Subject: [content-discuss] [docs-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update In-Reply-To: <701332.54841.qm@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <701332.54841.qm@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46EABACB.6090402@sun.com> Eric Lowe wrote: >> then for you probably will want to install the tools. However, since > > Note also if you run Server and use VNC for virtual machine console access, you must install the tools if you want the mouse to work. Even on the builds where we include the vmmouse driver in Solaris? 6559114: The mouse driver for vmware, vmmouse_drv.so, should be provided Release Fixed: solaris_nevada(snv_66), solaris_10u4(s10u4_10) http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6559114 -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering From elowe8 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 14 08:27:23 2007 From: elowe8 at yahoo.com (Eric Lowe) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [content-discuss] [docs-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update Message-ID: <701332.54841.qm@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > warning that should be mentioned. At the time of writing the latest > builds of OpenSolaris does not appear to boot on VMware ESX. The last > build that I know of that still works is build 57. This is problem is > being addressed by the Sun Engineers so hopefully by the time you read > this it will be working. If not you will can still use VMware Any idea who is working on this and what the issue is (bug#, etc)? > then for you probably will want to install the tools. However, since Note also if you run Server and use VNC for virtual machine console access, you must install the tools if you want the mouse to work. > VMware only supports Solaris it will have a problem with the > installation. Here is a hack to trick the tools installer: Hmm, probably too late for the next release of Workstation, but this should probably be added as an "Experimental" option in the VMware product. Maybe beer will work.. :) - Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From elowe8 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 15:38:02 2007 From: elowe8 at yahoo.com (Eric Lowe) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [content-discuss] [docs-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update Message-ID: <532549.11237.qm@web30904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As for the bit with the VMware tools and Xorg: If you simply install the tools as-is, you won't pick up the Xorg drivers from the tools package because the Xorg version doesn't match the one the driver was built for. This is probably just fine, since I am guessing the "vmware" driver in Nevada is more likely to be up to date than the one shipped in the tools, but I am asking the experts for their opinion (both in this thread, and I am consulting with the tools guys inside VMware offline for their opinion also). As for the question the tools configuration asks about configuring Xorg, if you say "yes" you are screwed because the tools didn't install the "vmware" driver, so your X doesn't start when you reboot. Answering "no" causes the X server to continue to autodetect, and it picks up the Nevada-provided "vmware driver". I filed a (VMware internal) bug on that... If no Xorg driver is explicitly installed by the tools, the tools configure script should not attempt to create a xorg.conf file. :) - Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From elowe8 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 19 08:54:22 2007 From: elowe8 at yahoo.com (Eric Lowe) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [content-discuss] [docs-discuss] Preliminary Draft for VMware Article Update Message-ID: <191334.32943.qm@web30911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A follow-up to yesterday: > If you simply install the tools as-is, you won't pick up the Xorg drivers from the tools package > because the Xorg version doesn't match the one the driver was built for. This is probably just fine, > since I am guessing the "vmware" driver in Nevada is more likely to be up to date than the one > shipped in the tools This is expected. Some future release of the tools will have version checking for the X drivers. The current tools don't have a 1.3 driver so the Nevada provided one is used which works fine. > As for the question the tools configuration asks about configuring Xorg, if you say "yes" you > are screwed because the tools didn't install the "vmware" driver This problem was fixed in the version of tools shipped with ESX 3.0.2 and Workstation 6.0.1. I upgraded my version of Workstation from 6.0 to 6.0.1 and confirmed now the selection of resolution works correctly with the Nevada-provided server. I am trying to get OpenSolaris (experimental) and OpenSolaris 64-bit (experimental) added to the Workstation UI as guest choices in the next release. In the mean time, you can use Solaris 10 as the guest choice (as you documented) with no loss of functionality. - Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html