[desktop-discuss] Re: [tools-discuss] Proposing /usr/gnu, 3

[John Rice]

John,

When you say:

"I'm a bit concerned that "blessed as a GNU project" is an odd match to 
the desired features of /usr/gnu/."

I know what you mean. My goal in the orginal post was to have all the 
various OSS tools present on Solaris in a way that makes it very easy to 
build OSS software out of the box.

The /usr/bin/gnu proposal helps to bring all the GNU tools onto Solaris 
in a consistent namespace that ensures that prefixing your path with 
/usr/bin/gnu will allow the appropriate unmodified GNU tool to be picked 
up for building OSS. So that helps a lot, however if there are other non 
GNU OSS tools required that are not already in /usr/bin then what do you 
do?
Hope they are already in /usr/bin/sfw, have no name conflict with what's 
in /usr/bin and so can be moved into /usr/bin providing they have the 
appropriate level of stability. If this is not the case then you have a 
problem. But as they say, Rome wasn't built in a day.

I'm hoping the combination of Bart's proposal on "Serendipitous 
discovery" and Stephen's "/usr/gnu/bin" proposal will go a long way to 
solving the difficulties of building OSS on Solaris. If other OSS tools 
are still missing, that would conflict with what's in /usr/bin then 
we'll need to look again and see if other hierarchies need to be 
introduced, hopefully this will not be the case.

JR


John Levon wrote:

>On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 10:00:55AM -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>For 2), which has happened before, what would we do?
>>>      
>>>
>>  Decide, based on the stability of the component, whether to evict it
>>  rapidly or not.  Has this really happened for a name-conflicting
>>  component, or merely across the entire set of OSS software?
>>    
>>
>
>I don't believe it has yet happened for a name-conflicting component. Given
>that there is precedent for this happening generally, and we'll be stuck with
>/usr/gnu/ forever, I think we need some kind of plan here.
>
>  
>
>>>I'm a bit concerned that "blessed as a GNU project" is an odd match to the
>>>desired features of /usr/gnu/.
>>>      
>>>
>>  It sounds like you're proposing different desired features (which is
>>    
>>
>
>I was basing my comment on "desired features" upon the comments during the
>original thread started by John Rice which sparked this proposal:
>as:
>
>"The problem is really down to the various build tools or lack of them on
>Solaris that OSS just expects to be there on a Unix box if it is to be able to
>build with out lots of hair loss on the part of the user."
>
>If that's not actually the primary reason for this proposal, then my apologies.
>
>regards,
>john
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