From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Fri May 1 15:13:07 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors Message-ID: Hi Everyone - The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to participate in elections. The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it is followed through. This will all be handled over email and will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that they have read this policy and agree with it. Approved April 30, 2009. If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From gdamore at sun.com Fri May 1 15:18:29 2009 From: gdamore at sun.com (Garrett D'Amore) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:18:29 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB7535.1000807@sun.com> Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Hi Everyone - > > The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: > OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants > > Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core > Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance > within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes > "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, > electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the > OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." > Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the > OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that > they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to > participate in elections. > > The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators > for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it > is followed through. This will all be handled over email and > will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that > they have read this policy and agree with it. > > Approved April 30, 2009. > > If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. > > Valerie Is the policy effective immediately? Are there any changes to how CGs are supposed to report CC nominations to the OGB? I have several nominations in the Driver community that I keep meaning to forward on... -- Garrett From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Fri May 1 15:31:06 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: <49FB7535.1000807@sun.com> References: <49FB7535.1000807@sun.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 May 2009, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> Hi Everyone - >> >> The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: >> OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants >> >> Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core >> Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance >> within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes >> "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, >> electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the >> OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." >> Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the >> OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that >> they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to >> participate in elections. >> >> The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators >> for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it >> is followed through. This will all be handled over email and >> will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that >> they have read this policy and agree with it. >> >> Approved April 30, 2009. >> >> If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. >> >> Valerie > > Is the policy effective immediately? Are there any changes to how CGs are > supposed to report CC nominations to the OGB? yes, these changes are effective immediately. If the facilitator would get the agreements from their CCs in advance, it would speed things along, but it is not required. I will contact the contributors otherwise. Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From Alan.McClellan at Sun.COM Fri May 1 15:31:21 2009 From: Alan.McClellan at Sun.COM (alan mcclellan) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:31:21 -0600 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB7839.7010708@sun.com> So, in practice, does this mean that a new or renewed core contributor nominee needs to review this section of the constitution and agree to it as part of the acceptance criteria? What form does this "assurance" take? Thanks in advance for clarifications. -alan Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Hi Everyone - > > The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: > OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants > > Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core > Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance > within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes > "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, > electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the > OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." > Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the > OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that > they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to > participate in elections. > > The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators > for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it > is followed through. This will all be handled over email and > will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that > they have read this policy and agree with it. > > Approved April 30, 2009. > > If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. > > Valerie From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Fri May 1 15:36:50 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: <49FB7839.7010708@sun.com> References: <49FB7839.7010708@sun.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan - Yes, basically, the OGB wants to make sure that the core contributors are aware of their responsibilities (which are already outlined in the constitution) before they accept their grant. This doesn't add any new responsibilities, other than sending an email stating something like: "Yes, I have read this policy and understand my responsibilities and agree to accept them and participate in governance." Does that help? Valerie On Fri, 1 May 2009, alan mcclellan wrote: > So, in practice, does this mean that a new or renewed core contributor > nominee needs to review this section of the constitution and agree to it as > part of the acceptance criteria? What form does this "assurance" take? > > Thanks in advance for clarifications. > > -alan > > > > Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> Hi Everyone - >> >> The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: >> OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants >> >> Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core >> Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance >> within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes >> "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, >> electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the >> OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." >> Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the >> OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that >> they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to >> participate in elections. >> >> The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators >> for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it >> is followed through. This will all be handled over email and >> will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that >> they have read this policy and agree with it. >> >> Approved April 30, 2009. >> >> If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. >> >> Valerie > _______________________________________________ > facilitation-discuss mailing list > facilitation-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/facilitation-discuss > From Alan.McClellan at Sun.COM Fri May 1 15:42:22 2009 From: Alan.McClellan at Sun.COM (alan mcclellan) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:42:22 -0600 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: References: <49FB7839.7010708@sun.com> Message-ID: <49FB7ACE.8000204@sun.com> Yes. Thanks. -alan Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Hi Alan - > > Yes, basically, the OGB wants to make sure that the core contributors > are aware of their responsibilities (which are already outlined in the > constitution) before they accept their grant. This doesn't add any > new responsibilities, other than sending an email stating something like: > > "Yes, I have read this policy and understand my responsibilities and > agree > to accept them and participate in governance." > > Does that help? > > Valerie > > On Fri, 1 May 2009, alan mcclellan wrote: > >> So, in practice, does this mean that a new or renewed core >> contributor nominee needs to review this section of the constitution >> and agree to it as part of the acceptance criteria? What form does >> this "assurance" take? >> >> Thanks in advance for clarifications. >> >> -alan >> >> >> >> Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >>> Hi Everyone - >>> >>> The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: >>> OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants >>> >>> Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core >>> Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance >>> within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes >>> "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, >>> electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the >>> OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." >>> Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the >>> OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that >>> they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to >>> participate in elections. >>> >>> The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators >>> for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it >>> is followed through. This will all be handled over email and >>> will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that >>> they have read this policy and agree with it. >>> >>> Approved April 30, 2009. >>> >>> If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. >>> >>> Valerie >> _______________________________________________ >> facilitation-discuss mailing list >> facilitation-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/facilitation-discuss >> > From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Sat May 2 22:50:48 2009 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 14:50:48 +0900 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [Fwd: New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors] Message-ID: <49FD30B8.9040006@sun.com> hey ... Regarding this new OGB policy on CCs below, this is the mail I sent to the Advocacy Community Group: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=101801&tstart=0 I don't think the original mail from Valerie made it on to core-contrib-discuss (see my mail to ogb-discuss about that), so this is a good opportunity for Facilitators to send to your community lists. Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerie Bubb Fenwick To: ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org, facilitation-discuss at opensolaris.org, core-contrib-discuss at opensolaris.org Hi Everyone - The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to participate in elections. The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it is followed through. This will all be handled over email and will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that they have read this policy and agree with it. Approved April 30, 2009. If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. _______________________________________________ facilitation-discuss mailing list facilitation-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/facilitation-discuss -- http://twitter.com/jimgris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at grommit.com Sun May 3 00:11:48 2009 From: steve at grommit.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 00:11:48 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090503071148.GA14245@grommit.com> My only Core Contributor grant is from the OGB at-large community... I'm not sure who the facilitator is, but please accept this as my assurance that I agree to the responsibilities and intend on participating in elections. cheers, steve On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Hi Everyone - > > The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: > OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants > > Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core > Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance > within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes > "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, > electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the > OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." > Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the > OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that > they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to > participate in elections. > > The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators > for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it > is followed through. This will all be handled over email and > will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that > they have read this policy and agree with it. > > Approved April 30, 2009. > > If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. > > Valerie > -- > Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva > Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. > 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. > _______________________________________________ > ogb-discuss mailing list > ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss -- stephen lau | steve at grommit.com | www.whacked.net | gpg 0x09E5CD21 From stevel at opensolaris.org Sun May 3 00:16:17 2009 From: stevel at opensolaris.org (Stephen Lau) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 00:16:17 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: <20090503071148.GA14245@grommit.com> References: <20090503071148.GA14245@grommit.com> Message-ID: <49FD44C1.4060403@opensolaris.org> My only Core Contributor grant is from the OGB at-large community... I'm not sure who the facilitator is, but please accept this as my assurance that I agree to the responsibilities and intend on participating in elections. cheers, steve On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Hi Everyone - > > The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: > OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants > > Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core > Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance > within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes > "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, > electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the > OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." > Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the > OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that > they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to > participate in elections. > > The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators > for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it > is followed through. This will all be handled over email and > will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that > they have read this policy and agree with it. > > Approved April 30, 2009. > > If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. > > Valerie > -- > Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva > Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. > 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. > _______________________________________________ > ogb-discuss mailing list > ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss > -- stephen lau | steve at grommit.com | www.whacked.net | gpg 0x09E5CD21 -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Mon May 4 10:46:43 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors In-Reply-To: <20090503071148.GA14245@grommit.com> References: <20090503071148.GA14245@grommit.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve - Don't worry, we aren't doing this retroactively (that is, for grants already issued) just for new grants going forward, though I do appreciate your continued commitment to the community :-) Valerie On Sun, 3 May 2009, Stephen Lau wrote: > My only Core Contributor grant is from the OGB at-large community... > I'm not sure who the facilitator is, but please accept this as my > assurance that I agree to the responsibilities and intend on > participating in elections. > > cheers, > steve > > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:13:07PM -0700, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> Hi Everyone - >> >> The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: >> OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants >> >> Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core >> Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance >> within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes >> "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, >> electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the >> OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." >> Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the >> OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that >> they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to >> participate in elections. >> >> The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators >> for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it >> is followed through. This will all be handled over email and >> will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that >> they have read this policy and agree with it. >> >> Approved April 30, 2009. >> >> If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. >> >> Valerie >> -- >> Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva >> Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. >> 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. >> _______________________________________________ >> ogb-discuss mailing list >> ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss > > From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Mon May 4 11:37:40 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [Fwd: New OGB Policy concerning Core Contributors] In-Reply-To: <49FD30B8.9040006@sun.com> References: <49FD30B8.9040006@sun.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim - Thank you for sharing that message with your memebers, it was very clear. In general, I find the Advocacy top level pages very useful at explaining high-level information from the constitution. and, no, the core-contrib-discuss alias is not active. The Tonic team said they could make it active, if the rest of the OGB wanted that. I haven't heard from anyone else, though, on the subject. Valerie On Sun, 3 May 2009, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey ... > > Regarding this new OGB policy on CCs below, this is the mail I sent to the > Advocacy Community Group: > > http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=101801&tstart=0 > > I don't think the original mail from Valerie made it on to > core-contrib-discuss (see my mail to ogb-discuss about that), so this is a > good opportunity for Facilitators to send to your community lists. > > Jim > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [facilitation-discuss] New OGB Policy concerning Core > Contributors > Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Valerie Bubb Fenwick > To: ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org, facilitation-discuss at opensolaris.org, > core-contrib-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > > Hi Everyone - > > The OGB has just passed OGB Policy 2009/007: > OGB Policy Regarding Core Contributor Grants > > Section 3.1 of the OpenSolaris constitution notes that Core > Contributors are "given the responsibility for governance > within the Community Group." Furthermore, Section 4.1 notes > "These Members are responsible for ratifying this Constitution, > electing an OGB to oversee the day-to-day operations of the > OpenSolaris Community, and providing guidance to the OGB." > Before Core Contributor grants are issued or renewed, the > OGB shall receive assurance from those individuals that > they agree to these responsibilities and will agree to > participate in elections. > > The OGB will request assistance from the group facilitators > for applying this policy, but Valerie Fenwick will ensure it > is followed through. This will all be handled over email and > will require a response from the nominated Core Contributor that > they have read this policy and agree with it. > > Approved April 30, 2009. > > If you have any questions, please follow up to ogb-discuss. > > Valerie > Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Tue May 5 15:14:58 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] Statistics from the last election Message-ID: Dear Community - The OGB has been discussing the election turnout on the private alias. This message serves as the notification of the private discussion and our high level summary of the information. As part of an effort to understand the disappointing turnout of this year's election, the OGB had been given access to the login records on the poll server (not the actual ballots). Here is what we found: 466 people had active core contributor status at the time of the election 300 people logged into the polling server 268 ballots were cast 20 people logged in, but were not eligible to vote 12 people logged in, were eligible, but did not cast a vote Breaking participation down by community group actually told us very little, although we did note that overall participation was much lower than we would have hoped. In future elections, the OGB may make Community Group participation numbers public. We would like to understand the lack of voter turnout. Was the system too hard to use/set-up? Were core contributors not interested in the election? Or were they not aware their participation was needed and expected? Comments can be added to our suggestion wiki: http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Suggestion_Box Thank you, Valerie, on behalf of the OGB. -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM Wed May 6 07:30:13 2009 From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:30:13 -0600 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Statistics from the last election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A019EF5.30709@Sun.COM> On 05/ 5/09 04:14 PM, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > Dear Community - > > The OGB has been discussing the election turnout on the > private alias. This message serves as the notification of > the private discussion and our high level summary of the > information. > > As part of an effort to understand the disappointing turnout > of this year's election, the OGB had been given access to the > login records on the poll server (not the actual ballots). > > Here is what we found: > > 466 people had active core contributor status at the time of the election > 300 people logged into the polling server > 268 ballots were cast > 20 people logged in, but were not eligible to vote > 12 people logged in, were eligible, but did not cast a vote I don't quite understand these numbers because they don't match the data on poll.os.org. The election results on polls.os.org show 268 ballots cast for electing OGB members (Question 1). And it shows 271 ballots were cast for the constitution question (Question 2). Of the 271 cast for Question 2, 249 were non-abstaining; 22 were abstentions. But I thought both counted as ballots cast for that question. http://poll.opensolaris.org/4/ > > Breaking participation down by community group actually told > us very little, although we did note that overall participation > was much lower than we would have hoped. > > In future elections, the OGB may make Community Group participation > numbers public. > > We would like to understand the lack of voter turnout. Was > the system too hard to use/set-up? Were core contributors > not interested in the election? Or were they not aware their > participation was needed and expected? > > Comments can be added to our suggestion wiki: > http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Suggestion_Box > > Thank you, > > Valerie, on behalf of the OGB. From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed May 6 21:00:20 2009 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:00:20 +0900 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] Statistics from the last election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A025CD4.5000407@sun.com> On 05/06/09 07:14, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: > We would like to understand the lack of voter turnout. Was > the system too hard to use/set-up? At each election we get some complaints from a small number of people who say voting is difficult. I know for a fact, especially among the user groups, that many people don't even attempt it due to the complexity. Now, the vast majority of those Members dropped off the voting roles in late March, so this will probably not be a big problem next year. But as we grow over time to engage more users and non-engineers, I think we'll have to consider making the voting process easier. > Were core contributors > not interested in the election? After five years on the project, I find that governance is of interest to a very small number of people in the community (and I no longer see that as a problem). And, yes, I think many CCs were not interested in the election. That's why I think we as a community should try to keep the Membership small and active until we can iron out our governance processes to potentially handle a larger Membership in the future. Currently, we have about 15K people spread out over 350 lists. ogb-discuss has about 200 people, which is not necessarily a small list but it's significantly smaller than the core project lists that have well over a thousand people each. Making governance (and especially the election process) a higher profile in the community will require a significant increase in communications from the OGB to the community. > Or were they not aware their > participation was needed and expected? I think the Facilitation Project will help a lot, along with using members at opensolaris.org as a direct channel at least to the Membership (those who have to take action in elections). And, of course, I think we ought to consider passing the proposed constitution next year to simply governance for everyone. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Thu May 7 13:20:27 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Statistics from the last election In-Reply-To: <4A019EF5.30709@Sun.COM> References: <4A019EF5.30709@Sun.COM> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 May 2009, Bonnie Corwin wrote: > On 05/ 5/09 04:14 PM, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> Dear Community - >> >> The OGB has been discussing the election turnout on the >> private alias. This message serves as the notification of >> the private discussion and our high level summary of the >> information. >> >> As part of an effort to understand the disappointing turnout >> of this year's election, the OGB had been given access to the >> login records on the poll server (not the actual ballots). >> >> Here is what we found: >> >> 466 people had active core contributor status at the time of the election >> 300 people logged into the polling server >> 268 ballots were cast >> 20 people logged in, but were not eligible to vote >> 12 people logged in, were eligible, but did not cast a vote > > I don't quite understand these numbers because they don't match the data on > poll.os.org. > > The election results on polls.os.org show 268 ballots cast for electing OGB > members (Question 1). > > And it shows 271 ballots were cast for the constitution question (Question > 2). Of the 271 cast for Question 2, 249 were non-abstaining; 22 were > abstentions. But I thought both counted as ballots cast for that question. > > http://poll.opensolaris.org/4/ Hi Bonnie - That would be my fault. I had noticed the descrepancy in ballots cast, it should say 271 were cast - which may just mean that 9 people logged in, were eligible, but didn't cast. This wasn't meant to be a scientific analysis, but rather a quick look at the numbers. As noted by others, our community is so small that it is interesting (to the OGB) that we didn't have higher turnout. We would like to see higher turnout next time around, and hope that by sharing our concerns people will tell us why they didn't vote (too difficult, didn't care, didn't know). Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM Thu May 7 13:25:11 2009 From: Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM (Valerie Bubb Fenwick) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [facilitation-discuss] Statistics from the last election In-Reply-To: <4A025CD4.5000407@sun.com> References: <4A025CD4.5000407@sun.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 May 2009, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > On 05/06/09 07:14, Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> We would like to understand the lack of voter turnout. Was >> the system too hard to use/set-up? > > At each election we get some complaints from a small number of people who say > voting is difficult. I know for a fact, especially among the user groups, > that many people don't even attempt it due to the complexity. Now, the vast > majority of those Members dropped off the voting roles in late March, so this > will probably not be a big problem next year. But as we grow over time to > engage more users and non-engineers, I think we'll have to consider making > the voting process easier. Thank you, Jim. We've talked about that & Plocher has added it to the Suggestion box - which should (if we get this process right) get it turned into an agenda item for the OGB soon. >> Were core contributors >> not interested in the election? > > After five years on the project, I find that governance is of interest to a > very small number of people in the community (and I no longer see that as a > problem). And, yes, I think many CCs were not interested in the election. > That's why I think we as a community should try to keep the Membership small > and active until we can iron out our governance processes to potentially > handle a larger Membership in the future. Currently, we have about 15K people > spread out over 350 lists. ogb-discuss has about 200 people, which is not > necessarily a small list but it's significantly smaller than the core project > lists that have well over a thousand people each. Making governance (and That's really interesting - thank you for sharing those numbers. > especially the election process) a higher profile in the community will > require a significant increase in communications from the OGB to the > community. This came up in the OGB meeting today, which hopefully the minutes will reflect. We do want to turn the alias back on for full time use, but the overall concensus seemed to be to limit it to governance type of information. >> Or were they not aware their >> participation was needed and expected? > > I think the Facilitation Project will help a lot, along with using > members at opensolaris.org as a direct channel at least to the Membership (those > who have to take action in elections). And, of course, I think we ought to > consider passing the proposed constitution next year to simply governance for > everyone. We didn't actually discuss the name change of the alias, though. And, yes, the new constitution would make this much easier. Of course, we need the current membership to turn out to vote for it :-) Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. From gdamore at sun.com Fri May 8 10:05:46 2009 From: gdamore at sun.com (Garrett D'Amore) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:05:46 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] why I hate mailing lists that automatically bounce non-member submissions Message-ID: <4A04666A.2080202@sun.com> I want to talk about this, because it has *really* been bugging me since someone changed a bunch of lists to bounce non-member submissions. Very often I get involved in discussions that are necessarily "cross" discipline. For example, I recently offered to help out Roland with some ARC work for a new CPU. Roland had appropriately CC'd emerging-platforms-discuss at . But my reply to him bounced. Because I'm not a member of that list. And I don't *want* to be a member of that list. Maybe this happens to me more because I'm an ARC member... so I get involved in more cross-discipline discussions. But I wonder how many other people are getting discouraged and as a result don't participate or look elsewhere, because of these automatic bounce configurations. Automatic bouncing sends a very clear signal to new posters -- "you're not one of us, so we don't want to hear from you". I don't *think* that's the message we want to send to folks. After all, we're supposed to be *Open*Solaris, right? I have the same problem with other lists as well -- I have to very carefully remember which of my various e-mail addresses is used to make sure that I don't get a bounce when replying to mail to driver-discuss@, for example. (For the record, I've offered to help moderate driver-discuss@, but nobody is responding, and I think nobody is actively "owning" that list. The infrastructure folks have refused to get involved, even though I'm one of the facilitators for the group and a group leader for driver-discuss at .) I therefore make this plea to facilitators and moderators: Please moderate your lists properly. Allow non-member posting -- its not automatically spam if someone posts to your group who doesn't frequent the group. Automatic bouncing is a crutch used by groups that don't want to be bothered with moderation. Its not *that* hard to properly moderate lists so that you don't need this crutch. It takes me about 5 minutes a week to moderate opensound-discuss at . For a heavily trafficed/spam'd list, it might be 5 minutes a day. (Properly use of white and black lists, which you can set up in the mailman interface, can greatly help with this.) If you're group is that busy, you can probably find more than one volunteer to help moderate it -- further reducing the load on any one individual. Thank you. - Garrett From michelle.olson at sun.com Fri May 8 11:11:22 2009 From: michelle.olson at sun.com (Michelle Olson) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:11:22 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] why I hate mailing lists that automatically bounce non-member submissions In-Reply-To: <4A04666A.2080202@sun.com> References: <4A04666A.2080202@sun.com> Message-ID: <4A0475CA.9010804@sun.com> Hi Garrett, This new facilitation-discuss list is for discussion of core contributor grants, voting, election time lines, and any policies related to voting and the annual election. Kindly send your complaint directly to those discussion lists you feel are not moderated properly. Questions about moderating mailing lists should go to website-discuss (they own mail.opensolaris.org and the jive forums). In other words, yes, you need to check which client you send mail from and which list you are sending to at all times. Regards, Michelle From peter.tribble at gmail.com Sat May 9 07:21:29 2009 From: peter.tribble at gmail.com (Peter Tribble) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:21:29 +0100 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] The facilitator role Message-ID: So what are the roles of a facilitator? At its most basic, a conduit for governance. - Disseminating information down for the OGB - Sending information back up to the OGB - Managing the Contributor list (sending updates, and also making sure grants don't expire - we ought to have some way of sending notifications rather than manually reminding or making users poll the database. Hm. One for the OGB suggestion box.) Something else I've been doing for sysadmin is handling project requests, shepherding them through the process. This includes spotting project proposals that go to communities or other places that can't sponsor them and making sure they get picked up. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From garrett at damore.org Mon May 11 14:56:02 2009 From: garrett at damore.org (Garrett D'Amore) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:56:02 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] please remove me as facilitator of driver-discuss@ Message-ID: <4A089EF2.4070409@damore.org> Since apparently my help in the driver community is not appreciated by the benevolent dictatorship that runs the community (or at least the one that "owns" the mailing list for the community), I feel that I am not a good choice to act as a facilitator for the device drivers community. I hereby resign from that role (and I'm not sure that an "election" for the role was ever performed... I was just doing the work that I felt was necessary.) I will retain my Core Contributorship in the community until it expires or until the community, acting with a new facilitator, arranges to have it extended. Someone else will have to go thru the process of figuring out how a facilitator in the community will be identified. - Garrett (The background on this was that I asked for the list moderator password to driver-discuss@ -- I offered to take over moderation of the list, as the automatic bounce configuration is highly toxic to participation -- but the list moderator -- who is on the CC list -- declined the offer of help.) From Li.Yuan at Sun.COM Tue May 12 20:36:37 2009 From: Li.Yuan at Sun.COM (Li Yuan) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:36:37 +0800 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] Facilitator of Accessibility Community Message-ID: <4A0A4045.8070200@sun.com> Hi, I am a leader and core contributor of Accessibility Community. And I am glad to be the facilitator. Thanks, Li From James.Gates at Sun.COM Wed May 13 08:23:00 2009 From: James.Gates at Sun.COM (James Gates) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:23:00 -0400 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [databases-discuss] request for facilitator In-Reply-To: <4A0A06D2.7090409@sun.com> References: <4A0A06D2.7090409@sun.com> Message-ID: <4A0AE5D4.8070301@sun.com> Hi, I'm interested in becoming the facilitator for the Databases CG. I'm a staff engineer in the Solaris RPE (sustaining) org. and also RPE's technology manager for databases - Which essentially means I'm responsible for the maintenance of database products bundled with Solaris & Open Solaris (PostgreSQL is our main source of work). I've worked for Solaris RPE for 9 years, prior to that I worked for Oracle (UK) for 5 years. I'd like to know a little more about the responsibilities & tasks expected of the facilitator role, an estimate of the amount of time the role takes, and if there are any travel requirements/expectations. Thanks. Michelle Olson wrote: > Hello Databases CG members, > > The new OGB-sponsored Facilitation project is an effort to improve > overall annual election processes and communication. > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/facilitation/ > > We launched on April 22, and we're doing outreach to community groups > for which there is no known 'Facilitator' who coordinates contributor > and core contributor grants. If you are, or would like to be, the > Facilitator for the Databases CG, please join facilitation-discuss and > introduce yourself. > > To subscribe, send blank email to > facilitation-discuss-subscribe at opensolaris.org. > > We'll keep you updated on information related to voting and the election > that you can pass on to your community. It is low-traffic and we have > about 15 facilitators on list so far. > > Regards, > Michelle Olson > OGB Chair > _______________________________________________ > databases-discuss mailing list > databases-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/databases-discuss -- Jim Gates Sun Microsystems Nashua, NH, USA http://sun.com/postgresql From michelle.olson at sun.com Wed May 13 15:03:48 2009 From: michelle.olson at sun.com (Michelle Olson) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:03:48 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [databases-discuss] request for facilitator In-Reply-To: <4A0AE5D4.8070301@sun.com> References: <4A0A06D2.7090409@sun.com> <4A0AE5D4.8070301@sun.com> Message-ID: <4A0B43C4.5080409@sun.com> Hi James, Welcome to the group and thanks for your interest to represent the Databases community, much appreciated! The role of a community group facilitator is to ensure that the record of the contributor and core contributor grants for your community is kept up-to-date with the OGB Secretary. In the case of the databases community, there are no grants so far, so you're role, should you choose to accept it, would be to help us understand who are the core contributors in your community group. To do this, you could provide a list of names of the people who have contributed code to your community and to the cluster agent project that the databases community sponsors. If you don't know their names, you could start with the list of Leaders for your community group, for example. This list of contributors and core contributors should be discussed on databases-discuss, voted on by the Leaders (if they are still actively participating), and sent to the ogb-discuss mailing list to be added to the opensolaris.org user database. Background: Specific criteria for becoming a contributor or core contributor varies by community group, but, in general, Contributors have demonstrated more than two significant contributions that support the goals of your community over a period of time. Core Contributors, in general, have contributed more than three significant contributions over a longer period of time, participate regularly, agree to vote in the annual OGB election, and have binding votes in community group decisions. Facilitators generally also are core contributors who are responsible for voting in community group decisions and the annual election. Because your community hasn't been through these formalities before, this might seem like a lot to do. But, I think we could bootstrap an initial list of contributors quickly if you would manage a discussion on databases-discuss. Here is an example thread: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=333063񑔇 After that, the role shouldn't require more than 1 hour per month (to read facilitation-discuss for any new voting policies, pass them down to your community, and to lead any discussions of new databases community contributors as we approach the yearly election). There are no travel requirements or travel expectations for the role. But, if you'll be at CommunityOne in San Francisco in June, let us know, because OGB will be there too and would be happy to talk with you more. We host an open concall meeting every Thursday, feel free to dial in if you want to talk live about any of this: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/meeting_minutes/call_details/ When the Web community rolls out the new authentication app at end of June, we'll have a way to officially mark you as the databases community group facilitator, but until then, I would simply add your name to the active facilitators table on the facilitation project web page. Regards, Michelle On 05/13/09 08:23, James Gates wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in becoming the facilitator for the Databases CG. > I'm a staff engineer in the Solaris RPE (sustaining) org. and also > RPE's technology manager for databases - Which essentially means I'm > responsible for the maintenance of database products bundled with > Solaris & Open Solaris (PostgreSQL is our main source of work). I've > worked for Solaris RPE for 9 years, prior to that I worked for Oracle > (UK) for 5 years. > > I'd like to know a little more about the responsibilities & tasks > expected of the facilitator role, an estimate of the amount of time > the role takes, and if there are any travel requirements/expectations. > > Thanks. > > > Michelle Olson wrote: >> Hello Databases CG members, >> >> The new OGB-sponsored Facilitation project is an effort to improve >> overall annual election processes and communication. >> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/facilitation/ >> >> We launched on April 22, and we're doing outreach to community groups >> for which there is no known 'Facilitator' who coordinates contributor >> and core contributor grants. If you are, or would like to be, the >> Facilitator for the Databases CG, please join facilitation-discuss >> and introduce yourself. >> >> To subscribe, send blank email to >> facilitation-discuss-subscribe at opensolaris.org. >> >> We'll keep you updated on information related to voting and the >> election that you can pass on to your community. It is low-traffic >> and we have about 15 facilitators on list so far. >> >> Regards, >> Michelle Olson >> OGB Chair >> _______________________________________________ >> databases-discuss mailing list >> databases-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/databases-discuss > From James.Gates at Sun.COM Wed May 13 15:43:11 2009 From: James.Gates at Sun.COM (James Gates) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:43:11 -0400 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [databases-discuss] request for facilitator In-Reply-To: <4A0B43C4.5080409@sun.com> References: <4A0A06D2.7090409@sun.com> <4A0AE5D4.8070301@sun.com> <4A0B43C4.5080409@sun.com> Message-ID: <4A0B4CFF.8080608@sun.com> Thanks for the detailed explanation. I think I understand, and am willing to take this on. I'll start the discussion on databases-discuss to identify the contributors. P.S. I am at Community One in June, but only for the Monday & Tuesday. I'll look out for the OGB. Do you have a stand/booth anywhere? Michelle Olson wrote: > Hi James, > > Welcome to the group and thanks for your interest to represent the > Databases community, much appreciated! > > The role of a community group facilitator is to ensure that the record > of the contributor and core contributor grants for your community is > kept up-to-date with the OGB Secretary. > > In the case of the databases community, there are no grants so far, so > you're role, should you choose to accept it, would be to help us > understand who are the core contributors in your community group. > > To do this, you could provide a list of names of the people who have > contributed code to your community and to the cluster agent project that > the databases community sponsors. If you don't know their names, you > could start with the list of Leaders for your community group, for > example. This list of contributors and core contributors should be > discussed on databases-discuss, voted on by the Leaders (if they are > still actively participating), and sent to the ogb-discuss mailing list > to be added to the opensolaris.org user database. > > Background: > Specific criteria for becoming a contributor or core contributor varies > by community group, but, in general, Contributors have demonstrated more > than two significant contributions that support the goals of your > community over a period of time. Core Contributors, in general, have > contributed more than three significant contributions over a longer > period of time, participate regularly, agree to vote in the annual OGB > election, and have binding votes in community group decisions. > Facilitators generally also are core contributors who are responsible > for voting in community group decisions and the annual election. > > Because your community hasn't been through these formalities before, > this might seem like a lot to do. But, I think we could bootstrap an > initial list of contributors quickly if you would manage a discussion on > databases-discuss. Here is an example thread: > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=333063񑔇 > > After that, the role shouldn't require more than 1 hour per month (to > read facilitation-discuss for any new voting policies, pass them down to > your community, and to lead any discussions of new databases community > contributors as we approach the yearly election). > > There are no travel requirements or travel expectations for the role. > But, if you'll be at CommunityOne in San Francisco in June, let us know, > because OGB will be there too and would be happy to talk with you more. > We host an open concall meeting every Thursday, feel free to dial in if > you want to talk live about any of this: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/meeting_minutes/call_details/ > > When the Web community rolls out the new authentication app at end of > June, we'll have a way to officially mark you as the databases community > group facilitator, but until then, I would simply add your name to the > active facilitators table on the facilitation project web page. > > Regards, > Michelle > > > On 05/13/09 08:23, James Gates wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm interested in becoming the facilitator for the Databases CG. >> I'm a staff engineer in the Solaris RPE (sustaining) org. and also >> RPE's technology manager for databases - Which essentially means I'm >> responsible for the maintenance of database products bundled with >> Solaris & Open Solaris (PostgreSQL is our main source of work). I've >> worked for Solaris RPE for 9 years, prior to that I worked for Oracle >> (UK) for 5 years. >> >> I'd like to know a little more about the responsibilities & tasks >> expected of the facilitator role, an estimate of the amount of time >> the role takes, and if there are any travel requirements/expectations. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Michelle Olson wrote: >>> Hello Databases CG members, >>> >>> The new OGB-sponsored Facilitation project is an effort to improve >>> overall annual election processes and communication. >>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/facilitation/ >>> >>> We launched on April 22, and we're doing outreach to community groups >>> for which there is no known 'Facilitator' who coordinates contributor >>> and core contributor grants. If you are, or would like to be, the >>> Facilitator for the Databases CG, please join facilitation-discuss >>> and introduce yourself. >>> >>> To subscribe, send blank email to >>> facilitation-discuss-subscribe at opensolaris.org. >>> >>> We'll keep you updated on information related to voting and the >>> election that you can pass on to your community. It is low-traffic >>> and we have about 15 facilitators on list so far. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michelle Olson >>> OGB Chair >>> _______________________________________________ >>> databases-discuss mailing list >>> databases-discuss at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/databases-discuss >> > -- Jim Gates Sun Microsystems Nashua, NH, USA http://sun.com/postgresql From michelle.olson at sun.com Wed May 13 17:29:11 2009 From: michelle.olson at sun.com (Michelle Olson) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:29:11 -0700 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [databases-discuss] request for facilitator In-Reply-To: <4A0B4CFF.8080608@sun.com> References: <4A0A06D2.7090409@sun.com> <4A0AE5D4.8070301@sun.com> <4A0B43C4.5080409@sun.com> <4A0B4CFF.8080608@sun.com> Message-ID: <4A0B65D7.9010204@sun.com> On 05/13/09 15:43, James Gates wrote: > Thanks for the detailed explanation. I think I understand, and am > willing to take this on. I'll start the discussion on > databases-discuss to identify the contributors. Great, I've added you to the table of active facilitators. > > P.S. I am at Community One in June, but only for the Monday & Tuesday. > I'll look out for the OGB. Do you have a stand/booth anywhere? Cool, I look forward to meeting you. We are holding a town hall at 6pm on Monday, location is still TBD, but you can watch our calendar for the details here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ When we get a room assigned (hopefully one of the rooms where OpenSolaris sessions are happening throughout the day), we'll update it in the calendar. -Michelle > > > Michelle Olson wrote: >> Hi James, >> >> Welcome to the group and thanks for your interest to represent the >> Databases community, much appreciated! >> >> The role of a community group facilitator is to ensure that the >> record of the contributor and core contributor grants for your >> community is kept up-to-date with the OGB Secretary. >> >> In the case of the databases community, there are no grants so far, >> so you're role, should you choose to accept it, would be to help us >> understand who are the core contributors in your community group. >> >> To do this, you could provide a list of names of the people who have >> contributed code to your community and to the cluster agent project >> that the databases community sponsors. If you don't know their names, >> you could start with the list of Leaders for your community group, >> for example. This list of contributors and core contributors should >> be discussed on databases-discuss, voted on by the Leaders (if they >> are still actively participating), and sent to the ogb-discuss >> mailing list to be added to the opensolaris.org user database. >> >> Background: >> Specific criteria for becoming a contributor or core contributor >> varies by community group, but, in general, Contributors have >> demonstrated more than two significant contributions that support the >> goals of your community over a period of time. Core Contributors, in >> general, have contributed more than three significant contributions >> over a longer period of time, participate regularly, agree to vote in >> the annual OGB election, and have binding votes in community group >> decisions. Facilitators generally also are core contributors who are >> responsible for voting in community group decisions and the annual >> election. >> >> Because your community hasn't been through these formalities before, >> this might seem like a lot to do. But, I think we could bootstrap an >> initial list of contributors quickly if you would manage a discussion >> on databases-discuss. Here is an example thread: >> http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=333063񑔇 >> >> After that, the role shouldn't require more than 1 hour per month (to >> read facilitation-discuss for any new voting policies, pass them down >> to your community, and to lead any discussions of new databases >> community contributors as we approach the yearly election). >> >> There are no travel requirements or travel expectations for the role. >> But, if you'll be at CommunityOne in San Francisco in June, let us >> know, because OGB will be there too and would be happy to talk with >> you more. We host an open concall meeting every Thursday, feel free >> to dial in if you want to talk live about any of this: >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/meeting_minutes/call_details/ >> >> >> When the Web community rolls out the new authentication app at end of >> June, we'll have a way to officially mark you as the databases >> community group facilitator, but until then, I would simply add your >> name to the active facilitators table on the facilitation project web >> page. >> >> Regards, >> Michelle >> >> >> On 05/13/09 08:23, James Gates wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm interested in becoming the facilitator for the Databases CG. >>> I'm a staff engineer in the Solaris RPE (sustaining) org. and also >>> RPE's technology manager for databases - Which essentially means I'm >>> responsible for the maintenance of database products bundled with >>> Solaris & Open Solaris (PostgreSQL is our main source of work). I've >>> worked for Solaris RPE for 9 years, prior to that I worked for >>> Oracle (UK) for 5 years. >>> >>> I'd like to know a little more about the responsibilities & tasks >>> expected of the facilitator role, an estimate of the amount of time >>> the role takes, and if there are any travel requirements/expectations. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Michelle Olson wrote: >>>> Hello Databases CG members, >>>> >>>> The new OGB-sponsored Facilitation project is an effort to improve >>>> overall annual election processes and communication. >>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/facilitation/ >>>> >>>> We launched on April 22, and we're doing outreach to community >>>> groups for which there is no known 'Facilitator' who coordinates >>>> contributor and core contributor grants. If you are, or would like >>>> to be, the Facilitator for the Databases CG, please join >>>> facilitation-discuss and introduce yourself. >>>> >>>> To subscribe, send blank email to >>>> facilitation-discuss-subscribe at opensolaris.org. >>>> >>>> We'll keep you updated on information related to voting and the >>>> election that you can pass on to your community. It is low-traffic >>>> and we have about 15 facilitators on list so far. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Michelle Olson >>>> OGB Chair >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> databases-discuss mailing list >>>> databases-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/databases-discuss >>> >> > From peter.tribble at gmail.com Fri May 15 04:29:54 2009 From: peter.tribble at gmail.com (Peter Tribble) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:29:54 +0100 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] Reports from the community for CommunityOne Message-ID: There is a lot of work taking place in the OpenSolaris community. In order to inform the OGB, the rest of the community, and those outside our community of all the work that's being done, the OGB seeks to collect reports from the communities, projects, and user groups that make up our community. For CommunityOne, we seek brief (one-page presentation style) reports from community groups, projects, and user groups, highlighting their achievements. We aim to display these at CommunityOne, so they must make sense in isolation. We also aim to combine them into a single presentation that could be used by others. If there is additional material - video or images, or full presentations, we would like to know about that too; and if there's something you already have there's no need to create something new. Some templates you may wish to use are available at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/Reports/ Please reply directly to me (Peter Tribble, OGB member). -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu May 28 20:46:46 2009 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:46:46 +0900 Subject: [facilitation-discuss] [Fwd: [ogb-discuss] Community Group <--> Project Mappings] Message-ID: <4A1F5AA6.7030909@sun.com> Hello, Facilitators. The short summary of the note below is this: if you could help us complete the Community Group <--> Project mappings on the site that would be great. We need to do this before the site transition. Just click on the "Endorse Projects" link in the "Community Editor" box of your Community Group space to select the projects your CG sponsors. Thanks so much, Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ogb-discuss] Community Group <--> Project Mappings Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:46:23 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio To: OpenSolaris Governing Board Discussions Hello, OGB. As we prepare for Phase 1 of the website transition, we need to complete the Community Group <--> Project mappings in the database, and I'd like your help completing this process. Currently, creation of a Project is approved by a Community Group. And once created, a Project can be endorsed by many Community Groups. This many-to-many system has caused confusion in the past around reporting and communication, and as a practical matter we have ended up with a large number of Projects with no Community Group endorsements and/or overlapping endorsements on the site. Because we have to implement the current Constitution as well as other features for Projects and User Groups not mentioned in the current Constitution, we need to clarify the group relationships as part of the site transition. So, there will be one "Sponsoring" Community Group per Project, but there can be many Community Groups "Associated" with a Project. This implementation will make reporting tasks easier for the OGB, and it will clarify the many group relationships in the community so the infrastructure team can more efficiently manage the underlying systems as we grow. Right now there are more than 80 Projects with multiple Community Group endorsements. We plan to designate as "Sponsor" the first Community Group that endorsed the Project. Other Community Groups that have endorsed the same Project will be designated as "Associated" with the Project. Additionally, there are more than 80 Projects with no Community Group endorsement noted in the database. Part of the problem, we believe, stems from Community Group leaders simply not checking the box on the site making the endorsement link. For a while the site listed these endorsements right on the front page of the project in a long list that could not be closed up. That was a genuine source of frustration for people, so we think that leaders simply stopped checking the boxes, which is certainly understandable. Bill fixed that bug in the site last year, but people probably got in the habit of not checking the box. So, I am getting a list of the current mappings now. Would you please assist us in filling in the missing endorsement data? If so, who can I work with on this? I'm happy to follow up off list. I just figured that since the OGB is meeting at CommunityOne and getting reports from the community, the board is probably in the good position to have the latest information about these missing relationships. Thanks, Jim -- opensolaris.org transition: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/web/ _______________________________________________ ogb-discuss mailing list ogb-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: