[osol-discuss] Re: Re: [gnu-sol-discuss] Incorporating open-source

Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjoker at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 10:38:44 PST 2005


Alan DuBoff wrote:
> On Saturday 03 December 2005 03:48 am, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> 
>>>Wether it's tar, gtar, star, doesn't matter. I want it to be tar.
>>
>>So what do you like to do?
> 
> 
> I want one version of tar to be in Solaris/OpenSolaris, and I want anyone who 
> is working on it or making mods to be changing that version. I only want the 
> community to have to worry about one tar. tar is just an example, this holds 
> true with most all programs.
distributions should take care of including other versions of tar, but
always in a different dir and using the original name (gtar should be
gtar and not tar) if the mantainers think it's necesary. But OpenSolaris
should only have one tar, at least in the base package (and one sh, one
grep, and the rest of the usual tools)
it will be a big change, but big changes backfire less when they happen
early in a process, I only hope it's not late
> 
> 
>>Do you like to remove all but one tar from your system?
>>If I had to decide on that, I would keep star....
> 
> 
> Sure, but I want everyone to get the latest and greatest tar, in the system. 
> It should not be a matter of which one any of us would keep, the tar we have 
> should work for everyone.
> 
> 
>>So let me repeat my question: Do you like to start a discussion where the
>>questions similar to: "which tar do we keep in future?"
> 
> 
> Yes, or better stated, how can we get to a common tar that will satisfy 
> everyone?
> 
> 
>>>No goals at all. I was just pointing out that the OpenSolaris community
>>>is at a terrible dissadvantage if they maintain more than one version.
>>>The fragmentation will kill us.
>>
>>This did already happen because people decided to create a new distribution
>>instead of helping with an existing one.
> 
> 
> Yes, exactly!;-) The question is how we can get the majority of folks working 
> together on OpenSolaris in a way that as a community we can all help each 
> other rather than reinventing wheels. It's not as if everyone is creating a 
> new wheel, just that some are only re-using some of the spokes.
> 
> 
>>Deciding on the best way to deal with FOSS additions to Solaris is
>>something that will happen _after_ we found a way to avoid unneeded new
>>distributions and a way to make cooperation happen instead.
> 
> 
> This could be a good point you make. I don't know how to get the distributions 
> working more together though, so I see the future being even more 
> fragmentation for our community in general.
> 

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