[indiana-discuss] scope

[Eric Boutilier]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Josh Hurst wrote:
> On 8/8/07, Eric Boutilier <ericb at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Tim Bray wrote:
>>> On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Chris Pickett wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we have a bigger problem than /bin/ksh: Does Indiana or
>>>> Opensolaris want to address the problem that Opensolaris still uses
>>>> the original bourne shell as /bin/sh? Most modern Unices use either
>>>> bash or ksh as /bin/sh
>>>
>>> This is well known to be an area fraught with religion.  Having said
>>> that, my impression is that a large majority of the linux community,
>>> and substantially all of the OS X community, live in bash, which is /
>>> bin/sh.  I bet that quite a few of the younger linux & mac geeks
>>> don't even know there are other shells :)   Early releases of OS X
>>> had tcsh and that provoked much beating of breasts and gnashing of
>>> teeth until they switched to bash.  -Tim
>>
>> Wait though. Why aren't we just applying the logic of the Nevada GNU
>> project design[1]? So if I understand it correctly, /bin/sh would
>> remain the Bourne Shell
>
> -1
> I strongly disagree.  ...

Fair enough.

> ... /bin/sh needs to be replaced.
>
>
>> and /usr/gnu/bin/sh becomes a symlink to
>> /bin/bash...  What's wrong with that?
>
> It won't help makefiles, users of system() and popen()...


Understood. As always, there are tradeoffs either way.

We disagree on which set of tradeoffs is best.

Eric



> and all other
> users who expect that /bin/sh is a decent shell such as ksh or bash.
>
> Josh