[indiana-discuss] "Where do I download OpenSolaris" Ian Murdock

[Dennis Clarke]

> * Martin Man <Martin.Man at sun.com> [2007-08-29 11:39]:
>> I'm sure of only one thing, as long as my system does not allow me to:
>>
>> # apt-get build-deps myprogram
>> # apt-get source -b myprogram
>>
>> I'm locked into the FTBFS madness and I'm slave of whoever produced the
>> binary package.
>
>   What is FTBFS?
>
>   Anyway, what I am trying to say in the blog post is that, technically,
>   I don't see I don't see how we can write a build system right now,
>   given the many problems with current patching and packaging and,
>   to corral the various binary producers, I see a unified build system
>   as an _obstacle_.  I'm happy to define the per-package metadata as
>   much as possible to allow build systems to be built atop the packaging
>   system.
>
>   - Stephen

At Blastwave we have been building software for five years. It is not
perfect and it is not without costs but it works. We have GAR ( GARNOME )
and SVN and Studio 8 and Studio 11 and a few other things. We do all that we
can to ensure that the community can build software that is integrated into
a stack of libraries and apps where a simple "pkg-get -i foo" results in
"foo" being installed, protected away from the OS in a separate filesystem
area at /opt/csw.  That is Community SoftWare. The user also ends up with
all the required dependencies installed and can then update them as
required.

But we don't *yet* have the ability to allow the user to simply download the
sources and then build them on the fly with a local compiler ( GCC or Studio
11/12 etc ).

I think we could get there faster ... if you were to share some of your work
with regards to a whole new package system and software maintainance system
for Project Indiana.

There is only so much we community people can do out here and I think we
should work together. Closer. Please.

Dennis Clarke