[indiana-discuss] Indiana Problem Statement

[Alberto Ruiz]

2007/7/2, Doug Scott <dougs at truemail.co.th>:
>
> Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2007/7/2, Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail.com
> > <mailto:peter.tribble at gmail.com>>:
> >
> >     On 7/2/07, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz at gnome.org <mailto:aruiz at gnome.org>>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Now, seriously, why do we need Java on the core OS? Perl and
> >     Python make
> >     > sense, since both are used for systems stuff, already, but Java?
> >     Do we need
> >     > it in the core essentials?
> >
> >     I'm actually very glad that Ian is advocating that Java belongs in
> >     the core
> >     (which I've always believed to be the case), and that it looks
> >     like it's not
> >     too big to overwhelm it.
> >
> >
> > Being on the core and being availible on the main distribution are
> > different things. What are we talking about exactly? Java on the
> > essentials of the OS (minimal) Java on the default LiveCD? Note that I
> > don't have an strong opinion on this, only want people to expose
> > proper arguments rather than "Java rocks", or it has "wide enterprise
> > adoption" and all that stuff :-)
> You say you do not have a 'strong opinion on this',  and you want proper
> arguments. Ok, on what basis, language quality, application quality,
> usage?


Easy tiger.

Do I need strong opinions to ask for good arguments to do something? I'm
trying to listen to what people have to say on this.


> I turn on my phone and I see java. I have a java smart-card in my
> wallet. How small do you want it to go?


What does that have to do with any of my questions?

Browser plugin. Java Webstart. Not having to reconfigure Open Office
> 'per user' when you add Java.


So you haven't answered the key question. Are we talking about core/minimal
or Live/InstallerCD?

Doug
>



-- 
Un saludo,
Alberto Ruiz
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