[indiana-discuss] Indiana Problem Statement
Ian Murdock
Ian.Murdock at Sun.COM
Mon Jul 2 15:25:03 PDT 2007
Peter Tribble wrote:
> On 7/2/07, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz at gnome.org> wrote:
>> Now, seriously, why do we need Java on the core OS? Perl and Python make
>> sense, since both are used for systems stuff, already, but Java? Do we need
>> it in the core essentials?
>
> I'm actually very glad that Ian is advocating that Java belongs in the core
> (which I've always believed to be the case), and that it looks like it's not
> too big to overwhelm it.
>
> I don't actually see much difference in the logic between python and
> java. Perl is slightly different, given the amount of ad-hoc scripting
> that exists.
>
> Java is a key enabler. There's a huge ecosystem built up around
> java. Its inclusion (if done right) immediately makes OpenSolaris
> relevant to a larger community.
>
> Java gives you some things directly - from neat tools like chime
> through immediate access to tomcat or glassfish, to things like
> looking glass.
>
> (OK, I'm biased, working on a number of tools that use java,
> which I would love to see in Indiana [or, even better, similar
> tools written by someone who knows what they're doing].)
Well said. We need Java in the core because we're a platform, and it's
one of the languages developers want to write applications in without
having to either have their users/customers install something else or
ship their own runtime. The rationale for Perl and Python is similar.
-ian
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