[indiana-discuss] what i'd like to see

[Moinak Ghosh]

John Sonnenschein wrote:
> [...]
>> Package Management: Every bit in the distro can be managed with apt-get
>> & co. No difference between kernel, modules and userspace. Installing a
>> new kernel needs just an apt-get install, keeping a server up to date:
>> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, installing a desktop environment:
>> apt-get install gnome | kde | whatever...
>
> [...]
> If package X version 1.2.3 works with package Y 2.3.4, you can test &
> certify against that, but depending which microsecond you run update
> && upgrade, you may get some permutation of packages ( X 1.2.4 and Y
> 2.3.4 ) which have show stopping bugs in them, despite all the
> components working. If we're going to have centralized package repos,
> I think it's fairly important to lock the repo down to a set version

   True. So lets have a controlled repository and introduce release 
tags/build
   labels such that a tested consistent set of package versions are 
tagged. Normally
   the apt thing will pull in package versions from the same release 
label and
   allow upgrading to a newer release label. This should bring in 
sanity, instead
   of package versions constantly changing/updating.

   Of course there has to be an unstable, untagged set for the 
adventurous souls
   wanting to be on the bleeding edge and ready to endure breakage.

> and not change it without extensive testing. apt & friends
> occasionally work for desktop machines (machines that nobody cares

   Isn't desktops/developer desktops one of the major targets for Indiana ?

> [...]
>> People love Compiz / Beryl & co.
>
> Until it locks the machine up hard enough that serial console doesn't
> work anymore. -1 to this silly idea.

   Disagree here. I have been running Compiz 0.5.0 on my office development
   desktop with Nevada B60 now for a month without it being switched off or
   rebooted or hanged once. In fact I find more ease of use than the vanilla
   Gnome desktop.

   I have been using Compiz 0.3 on my home PC for 2 months without a single
   hang. All plugins are sane except for the Annotate plugin which isn't 
very
   useful as well.

   Beryl however is unstable and tends to core. That's probably due to 
some bugs
   in the texture code.

   In any case Beryl/Compiz are just packages, and it is entirely upto 
the user
   here whether to use them or not.

Regards,
Moinak.

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