[indiana-discuss] Indiana is the wrong development

[Robert Nagy]

Hi

On (14/06/07 12:38), Gueven Bay wrote:
> 
> The original Solaris infrastructures had always the reputation of stability,
> security and reliability. This was not because of bullshitbingo or marketing
> material but because of the knowing, qualified users.
> 
> What are knowing, qualified users? For an enduser we can say, that he knows
> and understands his system from an eagle view. That there is a console, that there
> is a shell, a display manager, an X server and so on. Even if he doesn't understands
> how they are working, he understands that there is a pile of services and their respective
> configuration (files) which he can start and stop and that there is help in form of
> docu. Because of this he can "form" his (virtual) workplace and can run it in
> stable manner.

It is all the matter of proper documentation. An end-user does not know his
system at all. I know it because I deal with such people at work.
If they want to learn something they have to read the documentation, and
"features" like doing everything for the user instead of forcing to user
to actually learn something. Not to mention that these things are really
annoying for the more qualified users.

> This is wrong in two ways:
> 2) From this false assumption the users of these "easy distros" become more and more
> lazy.

It is not about lazyness. It is about staying stupid. Why it is harder to press RETURN on your keyboard instead of searching for the mouse cursor and moving
it to the OK button. That is more work, not lazyness.

> For this development of knowing users Indiana should be an infrastructure
> consisting of:
> A) A website tour of several webpages where every page explains the function of a
> specific consolidation and where the user gets a link/button/whatever to download
> this specific consolidation until the user knows the function of every consolidation and
> has everyone of them on his harddisk.

please no more wiki pages.

> C) A Belenix distro without all the bling-bling which:
> 1) starts a minimal environment
> 3) Links to the above mentioned website tour.
People do not need tours. They need proper documentation. Not a HOWTO,
because that is just so copy&paste.

> 4) Wished luck and fun for building the own OpenSolaris.
Come on..