[indiana-discuss] Naming ideas __/__ Re: [trademark-policy-dev] http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html __/__ Re: Linux as example.

[Martin Bochnig]

All, I finally noticed that I myself have fallen into the trap of
contradicting myself, here comes the ultimative correction (my
suggestions) :

A)
"OpenSolaris" continues to stand for OS/Net, anybody is welcome to
create a distro and call it foo-OpenSolaris [1.]
[1]: When meeting x y z guidelines and passing some future compatibility
test suite (which is hopefully to come)

B)
Sun has a reference distro-skeleton plus a supported #1 "OpenSolaris"
distro, always being called with a "Sun " as prefix to its name, such as
"Sun OpenSolaris 11"
or
"Sun Indiana OpenSolaris"
or
"Sun OpenSolaris Express Community Release"
or
"Sun OpenSolaris Developer Preview"
or
"Sun Jerico OpenSolaris"
or
"Sun $NAME OpenSolaris"

Thoughts?

--
%martin


Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Shawn Walker wrote:
>   
>>> I just wanted to save some typing. You should know, that SXCR doesn't
>>> exist. It is an abbreviation.
>>>
>>> I meant using "OpenSolaris Express Community Release", rather than
>>> continuing to use "Solaris Express Community Release".
>>>     
>>>       
>> I didn't know if you were being literal or not, so I assumed you were.
>>   
>>     
>
> Agreed, my fault.
>
>   
>> Nonetheless, I think it is important to avoid having many different
>> "OpenSolaris XYZ" versions.
>>     
>
> To me this is the same as if some Linux super-authority would state, 
> they only wanted one Linux distro.
> That is: from now on(!).
> I identify the term "OpenSolaris" with OS/Net.
> Many distributions could be derived from it. Just as with Linux (which 
> is the kernel + really basic libs).
> There is not one single "Linux" distro".
> Why do you think there should be one for "OpenSolaris" (== OS/Net) ?
> I think the sub-term "Open" and the desire to create one single selected 
> "OpenSolaris" distro are totally contradicting one another.
> That's the result that I get, even after thinking about it a 100rd's 
> time. To me, personally, and objectively, this is the most logical approach.
>
>
>   
>>  If you read posts on OSNews, slashdot,
>> etc. you'll see on of the complaints is about the current naming
>> system.
>>
>> Users aren't expecting a "OpenSolaris Express Community Release" and
>> really I don't see what the benefit in that would be.
>>
>> Why have Express in the name? 
>>     
>
> The "Express" dates back to September 2003, Solaris 10 build 45 or 
> something.
> It stood for "preliminary Snapshot".
> If Solaris 11 is still going to be based on Nevada, then this "Express" 
> still makes sense.
> Except, maybe, that Solaris11 should probably be called OpenSolaris 11. 
> This may be an inconsistency in naming, but Sun has done things like 
> that in the past (very frequently with the compilers or the JDK, err 
> SDK, err JDK ...).
> The move from Solaris2.7 Beta to Solaris 7 is another example.
> Major changes to the product, mixed with marketing reasons, justify such 
> a name change in Sun's opinion.
> And in this special case in my opinion.
>
>
>   
>> The Express part of the name is
>> something Sun did for their Solaris releases to denote it's next
>> generation connotations.
>>   
>>     
>
> Isn't Solaris 11 the next release anymore?
> Will the Express line not be continued?
> Didn't sound that way, actually.
> I do see that redundance, but I'm not responsible for it., nor have any 
> power to prevent all that stuff from costing Sun money.
>
>
>   
>> Community Release is redundant now given that OpenSolaris is a
>> community project and if and when we choose and make an official
>> distribution it will have been done by the community.
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> One notices that you don't want to understand.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Martin I think there is a language or wording barrier here. Please
>> carefully consider that everyone has a different way of understanding
>> things. In this particular case, I did not make the connection that
>> you did.
>>   
>>     
>
> I agree, there is one on my side.
> It wasn't written with a bad intention.
> It is almost 5A.M. here. I need to get up in 2 hours.
> Time for some sleep.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> --
> Martin Bochnig
> http://www.martux.org/xorg
>
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