[indiana-discuss] Indiana and Java

[Steffen Weiberle]

Luke wrote:
>> Luke wrote:
>>> I know it's early in the project development, but
>> I'm wondering if, medium to long term, Indiana will
>> be a good OS to use for Java development.
>>> Presently, I don't see a lot of Java-related
>> packages, aside from GNOME Java libs and some Java DB
>> packages.   The JRE is installed by default
>> (1.6.0_03), but the JDK is not.  There's no Netbeans
>> package either.
>>> Are there any plans to include Java-related
>> packages in the medium term?
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>> Hi Luke,
>>
>> Have you run SX-DE and found it to have what your are
>> looking for? I 
>> don't work on Indiana but am curious if the full
>> developer set provided 
>> with that is what you refer to.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steffen
>>
>> (reply-to set to alias since others need the answer
>> :) and it may help 
>> me too, in a different way)
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> 
> Hi Steffen,
> 
> The idea is to have an apt-get-like network enabled package manager to download and update the latest Java related packages, as well as resolve dependencies, much as Ubuntu does for me now.

Understood.

> Solaris Express Developer Edition doesn't have that.  I'd have to download and install each package manually, or install the latest version on top of the old version.  With Ubuntu and other Linux distros, I've been spoiled.

I know. The question was whether the packages in SX-DE are what you are 
looking for, or if it is something else, so the folks who create the 
repository know what you are interested in.

> I'll answer the obvious retort, which is "if you think Linux is so much better, why don't you keep it?".   The answer is, despite the presently superior userland, Linux doesn't have the features that Solaris has, such as a superior kernel, DTrace, ZFS, Zones, etc.   It's also a single operating system, as opposed to the myriad of fragmented distros in the Linux world.

I am glad you are interested in Solaris, and since I am not a Java 
developer, am curious what you would like to have in the repository.

I talk about zones, SFM, ZFS, DTrace, Crosbow, LU, SVM, resource 
management, etc. all the time. I'd like to better understand what you 
want and need. And what I need to make sure is installed when I talk 
with developers.

> Indiana represents a bold, sincere and focused attempt on Sun's part to have the best of both worlds.

I trust the folks responsible appreciate this feedback. Thanks!

Steffen

> Thanks,
> Luke
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