[indiana-discuss] Updated Developer Preview?

[Richard Elling]

Shawn Walker wrote:
> On Jan 20, 2008 4:53 PM, Richard Elling <Richard.Elling at sun.com> wrote:
>   
>> Shawn Walker wrote:
>>     
>>> On Jan 20, 2008 10:06 AM, Aubrey Li <aubreylee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On Jan 20, 2008 3:46 PM, John Sonnenschein <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> There is nothing that an updated indiana can do with respect to the
>>>>> problem of building ON.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first most visible problem is in the Sun Studio tools,
>>>>> specifically the package SUNWsprot which contains as(1). gas doesn't
>>>>> work to build ON, and SUNWsprot's copy of as(1) is non-redistrib. and
>>>>> therefore not in indiana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> That's really bad.
>>>> Will this feature be supported in the coming March release?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I doubt it. Despite Jonathan Schwartz's promises over two years ago
>>> now that "everything Sun does will be open source" -- unknown reasons
>>> prevent the release of Sun Studio, even with the most basic
>>> redistribution rights that we already have for other OpenSolaris
>>> binary components.
>>>
>>>       
>> Aren't you assuming that Sun owns all of the intellectual property
>> in the compilers?  There is no conspiracy.
>>     
>
> I'm not assuming; hence why I said earlier: "for reasons unknown."
>
> However, since this is *Open*Solaris; I would expect a statement from
> Sun letting us know why they have yet as been unable to fulfill their
> CEO's promise.
>
> If Sun Studio was a "nice to have" component, I wouldn't care so much.
> But the reality is that Sun Studio and OpenSolaris are "joined at the
> hip."
>
> As such, it is reasonable to expect Sun to at the very least state why
> it hasn't happened yet, what their plan is for it, or when it will
> happen.
>
> Quite frankly, I'm not all that bothered so much by it not being open
> source yet, as I have previously concluded that it must be for some
> legal reasons.
>
> However, the fact remains that years after this project has launched,
> we still don't have proper redistribution rights at the very least
> that would allow OpenSolaris-based distributions to be self-hosting.
>
>   

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