[indiana-discuss] headers and things needed ?

[Cedric Blancher]

On 30/06/2008, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cedric Blancher
>
> <cedric.blancher at googlemail.com> wrote:
>  > On 30/06/2008, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Cedric Blancher
>  >>  <cedric.blancher at googlemail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > On 30/06/2008, David.Comay at sun.com <David.Comay at sun.com> wrote:
>  >>  >> Dennis,
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  > With a stock out of the box OpenSolaris install I installed Studio 12 and ksh93
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > You don't need to install ksh93 on OpenSolaris. It's already
>  >>  > preinstalled as /bin/sh.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> I think that was a *wrong* thing to do and thus I manually install the
>  >>  shells that I want as I see fit. I pretty much expect that the default
>  >>  shell in Solaris should be a statically linked binary such that I can
>  >>  lose nearly everything and still have a working shell :
>  >>
>  >>  $ ls -lapin /sbin/sh
>  >>        952 -r-xr-xr-x   2 0        0         239348 Mar  9  2006 /sbin/sh
>  >>  $ file /sbin/sh
>  >>  /sbin/sh:       ELF 32-bit LSB executable 80386 Version 1, statically
>  >>  linked, stripped
>  >>
>  >>  I KNOW that Solaris 10 is a different beast from previous editions.
>  >>  Solaris 10 is different how? Solaris 10 has a default Bourne Shell
>  >>  /sbin/sh that is not statically linked anymore. This was done
>  >>  intentionally when the single/multi threaded process model was unified
>  >>  and the statically linked libc was removed. Solaris 10 commands in
>  >>  /sbin should only link with things in /lib. There are symlinks in
>  >>  /usr/lib to /lib for some libraries for backwards compatibility
>  >>  reasons. In fact, Solaris 10 is so smart that both su and login will
>  >>  fall back to /sbin/sh if the shell you specify in /etc/passwd for root
>  >>  can not be executed for some reason. What I am saying here is that you
>  >>  can change root's shell in Solaris 10 and still sleep well at night.
>  >>
>  >>  I don't know what OpenSolaris 200805 does in such events.
>  >
>  > So what?
>  > ldd /usr/bin/i86/ksh93 | grep usr/
>  >        libshell.so.1 =>         /usr/lib/libshell.so.1
>  >        libcmd.so.1 =>   /usr/lib/libcmd.so.1
>  >        libdll.so.1 =>   /usr/lib/libdll.so.1
>  >        libast.so.1 =>   /usr/lib/libast.so.1
>  >
>
>
> you missed the point
>
>  as a user I get to choose whatever shell I want .. static ? who cares ? I don't.
>
>  as root I expect the same behavior I have seen for a decade and that
>  is what I don't get with OpenSolaris.
>
Do you wish to make a leap backward to get the 40y old bourne shell
back? Much attractiveness of OpenSolaris will be gone if we have to
patch our sources to avoid /bin/sh again.

Cedric
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Cedric Blancher <cedric.blancher at googlemail.com>
Institute Pasteur