[indiana-discuss] CD Space analysis and recommendations

[Dave Miner]

[apologies for previous incomplete reply, this was the full intended 
message]

W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>> I've posted an updated status[1] of the changes being made for
>> 2008.11 to get the primary CD back to CD size.  The changes can be
>> broadly categorized as:
>> 
>> - Removing some packages that don't make sense for the
>> desktop/laptop target of this media, or that provide duplicate or 
>> low-priority functionality
>> 
>> - Refactoring significant data sets (fonts, localizations) to
>> required and optional portions to reduce their impact
>> 
>> - Modifying the CD construction to gain some space, at a cost of
>> about 10% in install performance
>> 
>> Note that some minor additional adjustments may be required based
>> on testing of the changes that are included in build 99 and what's
>>  delivered in build 100.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> [1]http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/cd_re 
>> commendations/
> 
> This is a wild thought but perhaps we should put on the table the
> option of scratching most of the language-specific localization
> stuff.  As I described in a separate thread, including certain
> local(s), if not done properly, can actually cause serious unintended
> negative impacts.  The highly esteemed Bonghwan Kim also pointed out
> that the daewoo Korean font included in the LiveCD looks dirty and
> should not be used.
> 

I rely on my colleagues in the internationalization community to provide 
recommendations, which they did, and those are reflected in the plan 
shown.  If you have issues with the specific technologies being used, 
i18n-discuss is the place for those discussions, because that's where 
the experts I know are found.  Have you raised any of these concerns 
there?  I don't see anything in the archives for the past couple of 
months, anyway.

> Since the localization stuff takes up so much premium space, don't
> you think we should at least ask those responsible for the
> implementation of each locale to come out and explain why and how the
> decisions were made?  In a supposedly "community driven project" (an
> excellent means to escape responsibility), don't we think everything
> should be as transparent as possible?  Then there is also the issue
> of accountability.


Much of the discussion on the topic of CD space has been open, but of
course not all of it, because it will never be the case that all of the
work will be, in this or any community.  I've summarized those
discussions openly, and if you feel that's insufficient, then I would
suggest your standards are impossibly high.

Dave