[indiana-discuss] Minmal install CD?

[James Cornell]

Only hardcore engineers are using Solaris, all of the front-ends use  
Windows and all of the hr and pr people use Mac laptops.  Part of the  
issue is the continuation of retarded license problems such as lack of  
MPEG2/4.  SecondLife is one example of something so trivial to get  
working where Sun has so far for more than a year not shown one bit of  
investment in the issue.  People don't like going to Fluendo for  
something, it doesn't seem right, it's the Linux thing to do and Linux  
people are really messing up a lot with everything these days, mainly  
surrounding licensing.  With marketing, advertising, hardware and  
software integration comparable to Apple, you'd think Sun could muster  
a better handle on the patented media issues, people aren't going to  
switch to alien formats if there's no way to automate migration, and  
in a lot of cases such as drafting and print the open counterparts are  
too weak.

In your crowd you use Solaris a fair share, on Sun Rays as this thread  
reports, but outside of that a fundamentally large subset of your non- 
technical but important employees use Windows for at least half their  
time to deal with the rest of the world.  It's not just a Windows  
interoperability issue, Apple does it fine, so should you, I mean the  
same underlying open source components (Bar some extremely redundant  
and mean GPL pundit projects neither Sun or Apple would adopt) are  
used and are of no consequence to integrate, so get with the times,  
this isn't 1988 with 9600 baud ISA serial modems and central B.B.S  
with thick glasses and multi-hour transmission sequences for the  
purpose of sending ascii artwork, the world means business and  
business needs to work, it simply cannot compromise and will not stop  
at the Sun ranch, rather burn you down and stomp over every person  
involved with this frivolous "transparent" marketing sham you call  
OpenSolaris.

James
On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Calum Benson wrote:

>
> On 14 Oct 2008, at 22:25, Glenn Lagasse wrote:
>
>> * "Thommy M. Malmstr?m" (thommym at at-hardeberga.com) wrote:
>>> It's terrible to hear that not all at Sun are using Solaris. I've
>>> used
>>> SXCE on my laptop since I quit Sun and it works perfectly. Now I've
>>> switched to the new OpenSolaris/Indiana but I'm not really convinced
>>> that it is that much better.
>>
>> Why is it terrible to hear?  It's a fact of doing business.  Until  
>> the
>> rest of the world gets off the Windows platform and the tools
>> running on
>> that platform there will always be a segment of any company that will
>> need to run that platform and those tools in order to conduct  
>> business
>> with the rest of the world.
>
> And, lest we forget, Sun develops several of its own technologies for
> Windows (albeit not exclusively)-- OpenOffice/StarOffice, Java,
> NetBeans, VirtualBox etc.  That would be kind of hard to do if we
> banned everyone from running Windows... VirtualBox itself can reduce
> the need to do so, but it's not a panacea.
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.
>
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