[indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] CD Space analysis and recommendations

[Andras Barna]

i'm not against a11y.
just pointed out that if it will be disabled by default (and not
working) no reason to keep these packages

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Peter Korn <Peter.Korn at sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Andras,
>
> I'll leave it to Willie Walker to provide additional detail here as needed.
>
> Fundamentally, folks are working hard to fix this bug in the packagemanager
> GUI.  Separately, the question of whether accessibility is on/off by default
> for *all* users is distinct from whether an individual user can turn it on
> for *their* default use so that it is on whenever they log in.  Or in this
> case, when they go to install their desktop (which means it must be on the
> LiveCD).  If they cannot have an accessible desktop until they have
> downloaded additional packages, then we have a rather serious chicken/egg
> problem.  As has been pointed out in that (and/or perhaps related)
> thread(s), the command line is also an option for users who want to download
> additional packages (and need accessibility support in the case that this
> bug isn't fixed).
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> check this thread:
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/jds-review/2008-September/003151.html
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Peter Korn <Peter.Korn at sun.com> wrote:
>
>
> Andras,
>
> laca, i read in a different thread that a11y isn't enabled by default
> so why to include that packages ?
>
>
> Accessible install is part of what we're planning for 2008.11.  The blind
> (or whatever) user can turn accessibility on with a keyboard gesture and
> have a talking install from their talking desktop that they've booted to
> from the LiveCD.  We really can't have that work if we are missing the
> accessibility packages on the LiveCD...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Laszlo (Laca) Peter
> <Laszlo.Peter at sun.com> wrote:
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>
> Dave,
>
> This is gonna be depressing, but the size of the GNOME packages
> with the 2.24 update is expected to increase by about 11MB
> (compressed!)  Attached is a StarOffice spreadsheed (and a pdf
> export for easier reading).
>
> It looks likes like firefox3 accounts for almost 1/3 of the
> size increase.
>
> There is 1 new required package, SUNWlibtasn1 but we should
> also consider SUNWespeak and SUNWgnome-a11y-speech-espeak for
> better accessibility support.
>
> Laca
>
> On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 15:10 -0400, Dave Miner wrote:
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> Filters are not yet implemented.
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> One possible outcome here is that we ask IPS to kick up the priority of
> implementing filters to help solve the problem.
>
> Anyway, thanks for digging in, Laca.  We can certainly ensure that stuff
> that's split out into separate packages stays out.  For the moment, no
> need to do anything, I'm waiting on some data about l10n and other
> things before putting together revised recommendations.  Are there any
> other significant changes in the 2.23.x packages that we need to account
> for?
>
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