[security-discuss] Password strength indicator (Was Re: [install-discuss] Comments on mockup...)

Dave Miner Dave.Miner at Sun.COM
Wed Jul 19 07:15:46 PDT 2006


James Carlson wrote:
> Gary Winiger writes:
>> 	Hummm, does the installer now use PAM here?  I don't recall.
>> 	It used to use a private implementation of "unix" crypt.  I
>> 	believe it now at least uses crypt(3C).  In terms of password
>> 	strength, it might be nice to have the installer ask about parameters
>> 	as well as algorithm, then sites could choose and not have to
>> 	configure post CD install.  For jumpstart, it probably doesn't
>> 	matter.
> 
> No more baffling three-headed-dog install questions, please.  If we've
> got a best practice for algorithms (sha256?), then make that the
> default, and require the use of some sort of "expert mode" to allow
> bit-fiddling.
> 

No worries, somebody would have to make a convincing case that there is 
absolutely no way that we can set a reasonably secure password without 
asking for algorithms and other parameters before they'd get into the 
common interface.  I don't consider that a likely outcome.  Whether 
there'll be an advanced interface for pieces like this is an unresolved 
issue - the question is whether there's sufficient need beyond the 
pre-configuration that's possible with something like sysidcfg(4) to 
justify the effort.

To answer some of the earlier discussion in the thread, sysidtool (where 
the root password setting is done) uses a basic crypt_gensalt()/crypt() 
sequence at present.  As we'll be replacing that implementation, we'll 
have some discussion with the experts on whether there's a better solution.

Dave



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