[install-discuss] Dwarf GUI Demo available

[Tony Reeves]

Michael Pogue wrote:
> Then perhaps it comes down to a tradeoff:
> 
> Is it better to have the user potentially miss the License checkbox, and 
> get an extra popup (Let me ask you again... :-), or is it better to have 
> an extra panel that separates out the license/I accept question (e.g. as 
> SuSE does)?
> 
> If we really have to ask about the license (I'd still like to understand 
> how Ubuntu gets away without asking), then I bet that a user test could 
> resolve this question....
> 

I see two quite distinct "markets" for the license.  The 
Corporate/Enterprise client is going to want to know the details of the 
license well before install and is likely going to refer it to legal 
council.

The personal market (and I suspect that all or most of the non-Sun users 
in this group fit this market) will rarely bother to read the agreement 
and would rather not even see it.  They/We are happy to just tick the 
box, and if we have to scroll to the bottom, will just use the "end" key.

The big question, is what is Sun trying to achieve with the presentation 
of the license?  And will the presentation method be valid over many 
jurisdictions? For example, New Zealand law indicates that if users are 
known to not normally read software licenses, then vendors cannot use 
the content of such licenses to enforce a contract, unless there is 
hardcopy, analogue signed proof of understanding and acceptance.

BTW, I appreciate the Ubuntu install, it is quick and easy, so meets my 
idea of a good product.  I have installed it many times and just 
appreciate the ease of install.  Both Sun and Suse require some form of 
tick, but I have never read either license.  Same for Microsoft "read 
before opening" licenses.  I have formally advised Microsoft that I 
don't read their license terms, they replied "you are no different to 
anyone else" and still let me use their software.

 From a user perspective, the Ubuntu approach works just fine.