[ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: /etc/ksh.kshrc forksh93[PSARC/2006/587 Timeout: 10/24/2006]

[Roland Mainz]

Josh Hurst wrote:
> On 10/18/06, Bernd Finger <Bernd.Finger at sun.com> wrote:
> > Casper,
> > Casper.Dik at Sun.COM wrote:
> > > I think I have to side with Roland; I use "vi" to edit but use
> > > "emacs" mode exclusively for command lined editing.
> > >
> > > The only intuitive editing I can think of is the use of the arrow keys;
> > > gmacs/emacs editing supports that; vi does not.
> >
> > In ksh93 r+ and s-, in vi edit mode, all cursor keys work fine on my test
> > systems, just like in ?macs mode. Have you tried already?
> >
> > So the main difference between vi and ?macs mode for me is the need to use one
> > of the vi commands like a, i, or cw to start inserting characters in vi mode. As
> > this might be a problem for beginners or those that come from bash, I am fine
> > with a default "gmacs" setting.
> The behaviour of bash is a standard on Linux and I think there is no
> other option as to adopt it.
> 
> Unfortunately I have to add a general note here:
> I am more and more shocked that such trivial items need to be debated
> at all.

Well, this issue is actually a mistake of the first ksh93-integration
ARC case. I didn't check the material good enougth against the prototype
codebase and forgot to point out that we have to deliver a
/etc/ksh.kshrc file with some specific content. My fault. 

> I am observing the ksh93 integration project nearly since the
> beginning and I have to question whether or not really all the
> bureaucracy is needed.

In this case it is needed since the original ksh93-integration ARC case
didn't cover that file... that's all.

> I think Sun and the Open Solaris team should
> discuss options to streamline the integration process for all new
> projects and the bureaucracy needed during project evolution.

Well, we may want to discuss this after out initial putback is done (I
don't like to be caught in a crossfire of getting the code putback and a
large discussion). I think I have an idea how this could be solved...
... but please let us finish this work first. Thanks! :-)

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Bye,
Roland

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