[ogb-discuss] Let us forget about those grants his hard work

[Martin Bochnig]

> I went through the xwin-discuss mailman archives (not
> Jive) from May 
> 2006 to November 2006 


2007

"Last" August, err this, not next ...


But it doesn't matter, as the whole system is a source of in-equality in case of so many people (who unfortunately never ever complain).


[...]
> Why?

> I only have one core contributor grant, and no
> contributor grants. 

You should have more than one, and I shouldn't have an OGB-grant. Etc etc etc.
 
> I don't find that to be a joke.  I haven't asked for
> contributor status 
> anywhere else, and don't feel I deserve it anywhere
> else (except 
> possibly the OGB community).  But even if I did ask,
> I don't see that as 
> being a "critical mail." 
> > I would rather like to give up my OGB-core title.
> > If I deserve one, then for SPARC-Xorg, hence
> xwin-community (actually for FOX, but that's still
> not possible, as FOX is a project, rather than a
> community, err, what?).
> >   
> Yup, I totally agree.  Which is why I think you
> should follow up with 
> the X Windows community and see if they will give you
> the grant now.

I only want it, if Moinak gets it, too.
"The xwin community" is reading ogb-discuss ...

> > But Moinak deserves more than one. 
> >   
> Certainly - but in this large a community, people
> have to be proactive 
> about asking for what they deserve rather than
> waiting for it to be 
> doled out.  I fully agree that this penalises people
> who are perhaps too 
> shy or humble to ask - but that's the reality of the
> current system.
> A tangential topic might be to investigate a better
> system for this; I 
> imagine this system impacts contributors/core
> contributors from cultures 
> where asking might be perceived as being too forward
> (e.g. many Asian 
> cultures) - but that's a different topic.
> I think a mail bringing up the topic of contributor
> grants for yourself 
> and Moinak to the attention of the X Windows
> community would be 
> valuable, and I can't see why it would be denied
> given all the work you 
> cited above.
> > p.s. I may not be online this week, as I'm abroad
> (trying to make some money).
> >   
> Good luck, I hope your search goes well.

Thank you  :-)

> 
> cheers,
> steve


My proposal would be: Remove that grants system.
It seems to be too much overhead to maintain it in a proper way.
Too many people are being left out. Especially due to the "project" vs. "community" controversy.
To name a single example (because that's what I know best) : Juergen Keil and Ben Taylor do a very good job at maintaining QEMU, and in representing OpenSolaris to the qemu.com -devel list.


cheers
martin
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