[osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

[Frank.Hofmann at sun.com]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote:

> Casper.Dik at sun.com wrote:
>
>>>> It's very simple, Joerg, first to integrate wins.
>>>
>>> WRONG: in the OSS world the first user os a name wins and the imagemagick name
>>> is thus illegal.
>>
>> Says who?  And who keeps the record or registry?
>
>
> Do you like to ignore that my compare is genric and thus correctly using
> the name and that it is 20 years older than imagemagick?

"compare" as a word dates back to probably 1000BC when the latin language 
developed. Its use in english is post-norman, though, being imported from 
french, but even that makes the english word almost thousand years old.

What, except a) that I was tortured with Latin in school, and b) that I 
can sound quite patronizing if I chose to, does that prove ?

Generic words can't be trademarked. That's why everyone can call their 
stuff "Windows", Microsoft lost a corresponding lawsuit a few years ago. 
You chose a simple english word, you can't claim exclusive rights to it.

A prefix/suffix, "schily_compare", or at least as you do it with the other 
utilities that you wrote, "scompare", would come closer to trademark-able 
terms, as Apple/Intel are demonstrating with the "iStuff".

For name collisions, there's always PATH to sort out your preference. 
/usr/bin vs. /usr/ucb vs. /usr/xpg4/bin vs. /usr/xpg6/bin comes to mind.

The world isn't out there to get you. Really.


Btw, PSARC knows something like a "minority vote". You can leave a record 
there saying you disagree with something, and state the reasons. Which is 
even possible if you're not a voting member. It goes on record and allows 
you righteousness later, "you should've listened see what happened". 
Whether that's a useful thing to do is another question, but it's really 
going too far now ...

FrankH.

>
>
>>> Because if Sun does not rename the image magick program Sun verifies that
>>> PSARC discussions are just to fool people but do not have useful resaults.
>>
>> Remember Joerg, being listened to is NOT the same as getting your way.
>
> It is just another chance to verify that there is collaboration on OpenSolaris
> and not just ignorant domination from Sun.....
>
> Do we have an OpenSolaris community or is this just a fake?
>
> The real compare is 20 years older and I did _warn_ _before_ the name appeared
> in /usr/bin. For this reason, this is an important bug in Solaris Express.
>
> Jörg
>
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