[osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

[Al Hopper]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Garrett D'Amore wrote:

> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams at Sun.COM> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Jörg seems to want the ARC and c-teams to use a different method than
>>> they use today for deciding when some utility (or library, or whatever)
>>> name is a conflict with another existing one.
>>>
>>> I recommend that Jörg make a proposal for such a change without making
>>> such a proposal specific to his troubles with star, compare, etc...
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that we can come up with such a method that will: a) allow
>>> OpenSolaris to evolve and grow, while b) preventing any conflicts with
>>>
>>
>> As long as it it impossible to implement the arc decisions in OpenSolaris,
>> OpenSolaris cannot evolve.
>>
>> You have to verify that the way it is currently handled actually works.
>> My impression is that it is either impossible to integrate stuff at all
>> or that some people inside Sun boycott the integration of star. If you
>> would ask me now, I could only say "it does not work".
>>
>> Think about how to find a way to change this....
>>
>
> Jorg, you are in SWAN now.  You can put together a workspace, integrate
> star into it, send out the code reviews and ultimately submit the RTI.
> Until you have an RTI that is refused, or an ARC case that is rejected,
> I don't think it is fair to assume *anyone* is rejecting anything if
> you've done.
>
> But its also not fair to expect them to do this work for you.  If
> someone else at Sun wants star badly then *they* could do the work.
>
> So, if your ARC cases have been approved, put together a workspace, and
> send out code reviews as the first step.  Its really not that hard.
>
> I'd offer to help you with it myself, except I know nothing about the
> SFW consolidation, and have little interest learning it just to help you
> out.  If however you want to integrate into ON, I can offer you some
> basic suggestions... but I'm still not going to do the work for you
> myself!  I don't think anyone else will, either.
>
> As my dad always said, "Actions speak louder than words."  Demonstrate
> your commitment to getting star integrated by your deed rather than your
> e-mails.

+1

Garrett's Dad is obviously a very smart man.  And Garrett seems to 
have learned from his Dad very well.  He (Garrett) is a very 
successful contributor to ON and a (successful) role model that we 
would do well to emulate.

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  al at logical-approach.com
            Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134  Timezone: US CDT
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Graduate from "sugar-coating school"?  Sorry - I never attended! :)