PSARC/2008/315 - autogen and guile
Kyle McDonald
KMcDonald at egenera.com
Tue May 13 07:11:23 PDT 2008
Brian Utterback wrote:
> I hesitate to mention this and if everybody agrees that this is not
> architecturally or otherwise relevant, I'll shut up, but if you
> recall, the GNU readline case (PSARC 2007/188) stalled because GNU
> readline is a library licensed under the GPL rather than the LGPL and
> thus anything linked with it is likewise under the GPL. So, if guile
> links with libguilereadline-v-17.so.17.0.3 (which comes with the guile
> source, but is indeed GPL licensed) then despite what the LICENSE file
> for guile says, it is not in reality licensed under LGPL, it is
> actually bound by the terms of the GPL. So, this presents the same
> problem that readline did, namely that a developer may unknowingly end
> up with a product that is bound by the GPL. Now, if the whole issue
> with readline has been resolved, then great, but I never saw the
> resolution. Has it been resolved?
>
>
I thought that shared libraries resolved this, since the 'linking' was
done at run time by the end user, and not the distributor. The
distributor is, as I understand it the one that is prevented from
linking (and then distributing) GPL and non-GPL code. So static linking
is out, but dynamic linking should be ok, no?
Is that a too simplistic reading of the license?
-Kyle
> Halton Huo wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> AFAIK, binaries under /usr/bin should have man pages. For autogen, man
>> pages are okay. For guile, Only found man page for guile, how about
>> other three: guile-snarf, guile-config, guile-tools?
>>
>> And need these man page files listed in the "Exported Interfaces" form?
>>
>> When I build guile 1.8.5, I got four more files
>> /usr/lib/libguilereadline-v-17.so
>> /usr/lib/libguilereadline-v-17.so.17
>> /usr/lib/libguilereadline-v-17.so.17.0.3
>> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/guile-1.8.pc
>>
>> Do you remove them in purpose?
>>
>> -Halton.
>>
>> On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 11:04 +0800, steve xue wrote:
>>
>>> Halton Huo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Give a review on this fast track, comments:
>>>>
>>>> 1. typo
>>>> /usr/bin/guile-confi should be /usr/bin/guile-config
>>>> 2. no man pages for SUNWguile
>>>> community do not have, only have info
>>>> 3. no man pages for SUNWautogen
>>>> community have
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>> Thanks Halton!
>>>
>>> I re-sent my materials in this mail, man pages are attached.
>>> plain text document attachment (autogen_fasttrack.txt)
>>> Summary
>>> =======
>>> Autogen[1] is a tool designed to simplify the creation and maintenance of
>>> programs that contain large amounts of repetitious text. It is especially
>>> valuable in programs that have several blocks of text that must be kept
>>> synchronized.
>>>
>>> This utility can also be called a code generator, which are programs that
>>> automatically generate high level code (e.g. C, C++, C#, Java, Perl, Python,
>>> Ruby, etc.). These tools range in size and complexity from simple code
>>> parsers to fully featured class and tier builders.
>>>
>>> AutoOpts is bundled with AutoGen. It is a tool that virtually eliminates
>>> the hassle of processing options and keeping man pages, info docs and usage
>>> text up to date. This package allows you to specify several program attributes,
>>> up to a hundred option types and many option attributes. From this,
>>> it then produces all the code necessary to parse and handle the command line
>>> and configuration file options, and the documentation that should go with
>>> your program as well.
>>>
>>> AutoGen/AutoOpts is a two-part project that serves two separate purposes
>>> and are inextricably intertwined.
>>>
>>> Because the implementation of Autogen used guile[2](GNU's extension
>>> language) and guile is not available now in SFW consolidation, so we decide
>>> to merge guile porting work together into this case.
>>>
>>> Guile[2] is a library designed to help programmers create flexible
>>> applications. Using Guile in an application allows programmers to write
>>> plug-ins or modules so the application fit their needs.
>>>
>>> Autogen-5.9 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this
>>> proposal, and will be installed as SUNWautogen.
>>>
>>> Guile-1.8.4 will be integrated into the SFW consolidation as part of this
>>> proposal, and will be installed as SUNWguile
>>>
>>> This project requests a minor release binding.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dependencies
>>> ============
>>>
>>> libltdl ltdl - GNU libtool dlopen wrapper PSARC/2007/557
>>> libgmp GNU Multiple Precision Arithmetic Library PSARC/2008/166
>>>
>>>
>>> Interfaces
>>> ==========
>>>
>>> (1) Guile related:
>>>
>>> Exported Interfaces Classification Comment
>>> ------------------- -------------- -------
>>> SUNWguile Uncommitted Package
>>> /usr/bin/guile Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/guile-snarf Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/guile-config Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/guile-tools Uncommitted Command
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguile.so Uncommitted Guile library symbol link
>>> /usr/lib/libguile.so.17.1.2 Uncommitted Guile library
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.so.3.0.1
>>> Uncommitted Guile srfi 1 implementation library
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.so
>>> Uncommitted symbol link to
>>> Guile srfi 1 implementation library
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-4-v-3.so.3.0.1
>>> Uncommitted Guile srfi 4 implementation library
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-4-v-3.so
>>> Uncommitted symbol link to
>>> Guile srfi 4 implementation library
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-3.so.3.0.1
>>> Uncommitted Guile srfi 13 and 14 implementation library
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-3.so
>>> Uncommitted symbol link to
>>> Guile srfi 13 and 14 implementation library
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-60-v-2.so.2.0.2
>>> Uncommitted Guile srfi 60 implementation library
>>> /usr/lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-60-v-2.so
>>> Uncommitted symbol link to
>>> Guile srfi 60 implementation library
>>>
>>> /usr/share/guile/ Project Private Scheme modules
>>>
>>> /usr/include/libguile.h Uncommitted Header files
>>> /usr/include/libguile Uncommitted Header files
>>> /usr/include/guile/ Uncommitted Header files
>>>
>>> Imported Interfaces Classification Comment
>>> ------------------- -------------- -------
>>> /usr/lib/libltdl.so Uncommitted PSARC/2007/557
>>> /usr/lib/libgmp.so Committed PSARC/2008/166
>>>
>>> (2) Autogen related:
>>>
>>> Exported Interfaces Classification Comment
>>> ------------------- -------------- -------
>>> SUNWautogen Uncommitted Package
>>> /usr/bin/autogen Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/autoopts-config Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/columns Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/getdefs Uncommitted Command
>>> /usr/bin/xml2ag Uncommitted Command
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libguileopts.so Uncommitted Libguileopts library symbol
>>> link
>>> /usr/lib/libguileopts.so.0.0.1
>>> Uncommitted Libguileopts library
>>>
>>> /usr/share/autogen/ Uncommitted Templates can be used as autogen command arguments
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/libopts.so.25.3.0
>>> Uncommitted Library used by libguileopts.so and autogen
>>>
>>> /usr/include/autoopts/ Uncommitted Header files
>>>
>>> Imported Interfaces Classification Comment
>>> ------------------- -------------- -------
>>> /usr/lib/libguile.so Uncommitted Guile library symbol link
>>>
>>>
>>> Reference Documents
>>> ===================
>>> [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/
>>> [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/
>>>
>>> RFE ID# 6672584 for autogen
>>> RFE ID# 6672583 for guile
>>> plain text document attachment (guile.1.txt)
>>>
>>>
>>> User Commands guile(1)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NAME
>>> guile - a library designed to help programmers create flexi-
>>> ble applications
>>>
>>> SYNOPSIS
>>> /usr/bin/guile [OPTION]...
>>>
>>> DESCRIPTION
>>> Using Guile in an application allows programmers to write
>>> plug-ins, or modules (there are many names, but the concept
>>> is essentially the same) and users to use them to have an
>>> application fit their needs.
>>>
>>> For additional information on using guile, see the Info for-
>>> mat documentation by running the following command from your
>>> shell:
>>> /usr/sfw/bin/info guile
>>>
>>> guile is provided for developers who are working on software
>>> that has already adopted it. However, it is not recom-
>>> mended that guile be used when developing new software pro-
>>> jects.
>>>
>>> ATTRIBUTES
>>> See attributes(5) for descriptions of the following attri-
>>> butes:
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> | ATTRIBUTE TYPE | ATTRIBUTE VALUE|
>>> |_______________________________________
>>> | Availability | SUNWguile |
>>> |_______________________________________
>>> | Interface Stability| Uncommitted |
>>> |____________________|_________________|
>>>
>>> NOTES
>>> Source for guile is available on http://opensolaris.org.
>>>
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>>> SunOS 5.10 Last change: 08 Mar 2008 1
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