EOF of PostgreSQL 8.2 in Solaris [LSARC/2008/616 timeout 10/08/2008]

Bill Walker Bill.Walker at sun.com
Tue Sep 30 17:38:08 PDT 2008


Just curious, but isn't SunMC still using 8.1.4?  Are plans in place 
over there to use the same version/packages?

bill.


John Fischer wrote:
> James,
> 
> Sounds like a well thought out plan.  
> 
> Does it make sense to add to the release note which 
> version is recommended to migrate to in the future release? 
> So perhaps the release note might say something like:
> 
> 	PostgreSQL version 8.2 may no longer be supported 
> 	in a future release of Solaris.  You may want to 
> 	migrate to PostgresSQL version 8.4.
> 
> Also is there a command that should spit out the same
> message?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 15:15, James Gates wrote:
>> I'm sponsoring this on behalf of the PostgreSQL P-Team. Timeout is set 
>> for 8th October. Attached is a copy of the proposal, which can also be 
>> found in the case directory.
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Gates                    Sun Microsystems
>> Nashua, NH, USA          http://sun.com/postgresql
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> Template Version: @(#)onepager.txt 1.35 07/11/07 SMI
>> Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems
>>
>> 1. Introduction
>>    1.1. Project/Component Working Name:
>>         EOF of PostgreSQL 8.2 in Solaris
>>
>>    1.2. Name of Document Author/Supplier:
>> 	James Gates
>>
>>    1.3. Date of This Document:
>> 	09/30/08
>> 	
>> 	1.3.1. Date this project was conceived:
>> 		09/17/08
>>
>>    1.4. Name of Major Document Customer(s)/Consumer(s):
>> 	1.4.1. The PAC or CPT you expect to review your project:
>> 		
>>             Database PAC
>>
>> 	1.4.2. The ARC(s) you expect to review your project:
>>
>>             LSARC
>>
>> 	1.4.3. The Director/VP who is "Sponsoring" this project:
>>
>>             Chris.Armes at sun.com
>>
>> 	1.4.4. The name of your business unit:
>>
>>             Software/RPE
>>
>>    1.5. Email Aliases:
>>     	1.5.1. Responsible Manager: Thulasinathan.P at sun.com
>>     	1.5.2. Responsible Engineer: James.Gates at sun.com
>>     	1.5.3. Marketing Manager: Wei-Chen.Chiu at sun.com
>> 	1.5.4. Interest List: sun-postgres-pteam at sun.com
>>
>>    [In the following, "8.1", "8.2", "8.3" or "8.4" without qualification
>>    refer to the corresponding PostgreSQL version.]
>>
>> 2. Project Summary
>>    2.1. Project Description:
>>
>> 	Solaris currently includes versions 8.1, 8.2 & 8.3. It is expected
>> 	that the community will release 8.4 in Dec 2008. We plan to integrate
>> 	it into Solaris shortly after community release.
>>
>> 	This project proposes to announce the EOF for 8.2 in a patch
>> 	release of Solaris (i.e. Solaris 10 Update) and removal of the
>> 	feature in a minor release of Solaris (i.e. Solaris 11).
>>
>> 	The intention of the PostgreSQL EOL policy approved by the DB PAC
>> 	is to provide active support for the latest 2 versions integrated
>> 	with Solaris. Hence the release and integration of 8.4 triggers the
>> 	EOF & EOL of 8.2.
>>
>> 	Note that the ARC case to EOF 8.1 was approved on 01/15/2008
>> 	(LSARC/2008/005).
>>
>>    2.2. Risks and Assumptions:
>>
>>         If Solaris 11 is shipped without 8.2 it would force customers
>>         still running this version to upgrade PostgreSQL immediately
>>         if they upgrade their O/S.  They might even decide not to
>>         upgrade because of this (although I think this is unlikely).
>> 	Those customers who must continue to run 8.2 can still visit the
>> 	community website and download the freely available software.
>>
>>         There is also a risk that some other Sun products depend on
>>         8.2; we need to ensure that these are upgraded to at least 8.3.
>>         I have verified that no other packages in the SFWNV
>>         consilidation are listed as depending on any of the PostgreSQL
>>         8.2 packages.
>>
>> 3. Business Summary
>>
>>    3.1. Problem Area:
>>
>> 	The PostgreSQL community release a new major version approximately
>> 	once every year. For various reasons, we need to encourage customers
>> 	to upgrade to newer versions when they become available.
>>
>>    3.2. Market/Requester:
>> 	
>>         PostgreSQL P-Team
>>
>>    3.3. Business Justification:
>>
>>         We want to reduce the amount of resources needed to support and sustain
>>         old versions of PostgreSQL. We also want to keep in sync with the
>> 	PostgreSQL communitys EOL policy i.e. we don't want to
>> 	be in the position of having a PostgreSQL version in Solaris that is
>> 	no longer supported and maintained by the community.
>>
>>    3.4. Competitive Analysis:
>> 	
>>         N/A
>>
>>    3.5. Opportunity Window/Exposure:
>> 	
>>         This needs to coincide with the integration of 8.4, so as to ensure
>> 	that only the latest 2 versions of PostgreSQL are available/supported,
>> 	and all previous versions are EOF/EOL.
>>
>>    3.6. How will you know when you are done?:
>>    	
>> 	The project will be complete when the announcement is made in 
>> 	a patch release of Solaris and when 8.2 is removed from a minor
>> 	release of Solaris.
>>
>> 4. Technical Description:
>>     4.1. Details:
>>
>> 	This project will create a release note in a Patch release of
>> 	Solaris (i.e. Solaris 10 Update). It will also remove all 8.2
>> 	packages from a Minor release of Solaris (i.e., Solaris 11).
>> 	
>> 	The Solaris 10 Update Release Notes will be updated with the 
>> 	following text:
>> 	
>> 		PostgreSQL version 8.2 may no longer be supported 
>> 		in a future release.  
>>
>>     4.2. Bug/RFE Number(s):
>> 	
>>         N/A
>>     
>>     4.3. In Scope:
>>
>>     4.4. Out of Scope:
>>     
>>     4.5. Interfaces:
>>
>> 	Imported Interfaces:
>> 	Interface                  Stability                     Citation
>> 	---------                  ---------                     ----------
>> 	N/A
>>  
>> 	Exported Interfaces:
>> 	Interface			Classification	Comments
>> 	---------------------		---------------	------------------------
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-client		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-contrib		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-devel		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-docs		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-jdbc		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-libs		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-pl		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-server		Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-server-data-root	Obsolete	Package
>> 	SUNWpostgr-82-tcl		Obsolete	Package
>> 	/lib/svc/method/postgresql	Obselete	SMF method script
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2		Obsolete	Installation location
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/bin		Obsolete	Executable location
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/doc		Obsolete	Documentation
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/etc		Obsolete	Config files
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/include	Obsolete	Header files
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/jdbc		Obsolete	JDBC driver
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/lib		Obsolete	Shared libraries
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/man		Obsolete	Manual pages
>> 	/usr/postgres/8.2/share		Obsolete	Localized message files
>> 	/usr/share/man/man5/postgres_82.5	Obselete	Sun specific man page
>> 	/var/postgres/8.2		Obselete	Default db location
>> 	/var/svc/manifest/application/database/postgresql.xml	Obselete	SMF manifest file
>>
>>         Also deleted are all files under /usr/postgres/8.2/* (too numerous to
>> 	list here).
>>
>>     4.6. Doc Impact:
>>
>> 	Comprehensive documentation was included with the product. This will
>> 	be removed. The only other documentation impact will be the delivery
>> 	of the release note (see section 4.1).
>>
>>     4.7. Admin/Config Impact:
>>
>>         None.
>>     
>>     4.8. HA Impact:
>>
>>         N/A
>>     
>>     4.9. I18N/L10N Impact:
>>
>>         N/A
>>     
>>     4.10. Packaging & Delivery:
>>
>>         The packages listed in 4.5 will be deleted and will not be
>>         included with the first release of Solaris 11. However, note
>>         that they have been delivered with SXDE; I don't know if this
>>         will require us to go through the full EOF process.
>>
>>         Users upgrading from Solaris 10 who are running a database
>>         under PostgreSQL 8.1 or 8.2 will have to use the upgrade solution we
>>         included with the 8.3 integration to upgrade to 8.3 or 8.4.
>>  
>>     4.11. Security Impact:
>>
>>         No impact.
>>     
>>     4.12. Dependencies:
>>
>>         Depends on the integration of 8.4
>>
>> 5. Reference Documents:
>>
>> 	All material associated with the original ARC case to integrate
>> 	PostgreSQL 8.1 can be found at:
>> 	http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/LSARC/2005/515/
>>
>>         Material associated with the ARC case to integrate PostgreSQL
>>         8.2 can be found at:
>> 	http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/LSARC/2006/655/
>>
>>         Material associated with the ARC case to integrate PostgreSQL
>>         8.3 can be found at
>>         http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/LSARC/2008/004
>>
>> 	PostgreSQL 8.3 information can be found at:
>> 	http://www.postgresql.org/
>>
>> 6. Resources and Schedule:
>>    6.1. Projected Availability:
>>
>>         Can be done immediately after 8.4 is integrated.
>>
>>    6.2. Cost of Effort:
>>
>>         Minimal; just removal of a component.
>>
>>    6.3. Cost of Capital Resources:
>> 	
>>         None.
>>
>>    	6.4.1. Consolidation or Component Name:
>>
>> 		SFW
>>
>> 	6.4.3. Type of CPT Review and Approval expected:
>>
>> 		FastTrack
>>
>>         6.4.4. Project Boundary Conditions:
>>
>> 		N/A
>>
>> 	6.4.5. Is this a necessary project for OEM agreements:
>>
>>                No
>>
>> 	6.4.6. Notes:
>>
>> 	6.4.7. Target RTI Date/Release:
>>
>>                ASAP after the community releases 8.4.
>>
>> 	6.4.8. Target Code Design Review Date:
>> 	6.4.9. Update approval addition:
>>
>>    6.5. ARC review type:
>>
>>         FastTrack
>>
>>    6.6. ARC Exposure:
>>
>>         open
>>
>>        6.6.1. Rationale:
>>
>>               N/A
>>
>> 7. Prototype Availability:
>>    7.1. Prototype Availability:
>> 	
>>         N/A
>>
>>    7.2. Prototype Cost:
>> 	
>>         N/A
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