[osol-mktg] Proposal: s/Marketing/Evangelism/
Jim Grisanzio
Jim.Grisanzio at sun.com
Thu Oct 6 17:50:35 PDT 2005
Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2005, at 19:24, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>
>> Phillip (Flip) Russell wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think that Marketing and Evangelism are very different things.
>>>
>>> While things are small right now, there is heavy overlap.
>>> But that should change in the future as the communites grow
>>> and I'm sure the community at that time will have clear
>>> boundaries between the two.
>>>
>>
>> I'm curious what those boundaries might be? Can you expand on that?
>>
>> I see the primary diffrence as being cash. Marketers have cash,
>> evangelists don't. Marketers generally get paid, evangelists don't.
>> But those are minor diffrences in the grand scheme of things.
>>
>> We're seeing a foundational shift in the world of marketing. Many of
>> us have blogged about this, I have, Jim has, Claire has, etc. I'm
>> suggesting that we stay ahead of that curve.
>
>
> Having been in marketing in a job in the mid 90s and then held the
> title of 'Evangelist' for the ten years ending last month, I'd assert
> they are different.
>
> Marketing is about the stuff that makes markets. It's about creating
> materials, messaging structures, events and so on that make the market
> for the product. This is the space that's being transformed for open
> source. "Making the market" now means "supporting and expanding the
> community", so the materials have a different structure and the process
> by which they are created is transparent and collaborative.
>
> Evangelism is about communicating with people. Evangelists often use
> the materials and resources that marketers create, but evangelists are
> subject experts looking to honestly find a win-win between the project
> the love and the people they meet who don't know about it. This role is
> largely unchanged in open source - maybe easier as the transparency of
> open source means people can clearly see you're being honset with them.
>
> The best term to join these two distinct areas is "advocacy". maybe
> this team should be called "OpenSolaris Advocacy" as it includes both
> groups of people.
This is interesting ... I was just talking to Sara and Laura today
about a related topic that may plug in nicely here. Ben is pointing out
that Sun people have to live in two worlds, Simon is drawing a
distinction between marketing and evangelism, and Flip mentions the
overlap we have right now. I think all are correct in various
circumstances, and we can leverage all mind sets in this marketing
community.
So, Sara, and Laura and I had this idea to build out and maintain an
"OpenSolaris Marketing & Community Development Plan" on the site. We all
have to do plans around here, so why not develop these plans as a community?
The macro plan would contain multiple documents licensed under an open
source license (suggest: http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/PDL.html).
Something along the lines of what OpenOffice has done
(http://marketing.openoffice.org/strategy/). I see Tim has posted a
bunch of excellent stuff on the marketing page already, so this would be
a way to expand that effort and quantify it into a plan for all to
contribute to. There has been some conversation already along these
lines in this community and in the user group community in terms of
sharing presentations and such. So, this could be a joint marketing
community and user group community effort.
When Ben says, "For those of us external to Sun we're clearly in the
Evangelism camp, however those at Sun are keeping feet planted firmly in
both worlds." I think he has a point. I certainly feel. And I think Sun
people have to balance this to a certain degree. So, here's the key:
this plan we are proposing would be an *OpenSolaris community* plan, not
a Sun plan written by a Sun employee for an executive that has some
community feedback. Now, Sun marketing people and program managers in
engineering like me may customize our plans for Sun purposes because
execs want it in a certain format with more Sun-specific market content
or whatever, but we should only do that after we have first contributed
to the open content source base on the site. And the same goes for
others ... they should be encouraged to contribute to the content source
and then from there create derivative works (plans) if necessary. And I
can certainly see that derivative plans will be necessary in some
instances, but not in all. In other words, I should *not* create a
community development plan that only I've written only to sit on my hard
drive so I can report upline. And I'm not, of course. I'll write my plan
on the site or my blog with whoever wants to contribute so most of it
can be shared and I'll customize if necessary to report upline to
Sun (which in my case is not necessary).
Some ideas:
* We could call it the "OpenSolaris Marketing & Community Dev Plan"
* It will be based on merit and contribution, not status and title.
* It will be 100 percent community written and implemented, not Sun
written and implemented.
* There is no Sun approval process since the community owns it.
* It will be shared among anyone who wants to participate.
* The format and style will take shape as the community proposes.
* It will tie together (for documentation purposes) as many efforts as
possible, but it will not necessarily assert ownership over all parts
of the project's outreach efforts.
* It will be developed 100 percent on the mail lists and the wiki.
* Resources to implement the plan will not come from Sun; instead all
resources will come from whoever participates and whatever they can
contribute. So, a Sun person may have some resources and may not, just
as anyone in the community would.
* Sun people are free to create their own plans as derivative
works and those works can sent upline for the typical "executive"
approval process -- but that's a Sun corporate thing, not a community
thing. The core source material is open for all to use and extend.
What this would do is (1) create a source repository of open documents
that community evangelists can contribute to and extend and run with,
(2) enable Sun-badged community members to contribute to the documents
and also create their own derivative works for Sun managers and
executives if necessary, and (3) enable others (distros?) to create
their own derivative marketing plans that are still consistent with the
core community values and documents.
What do you think?
Jim
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Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris
http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
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