OpenSolaris in universities (was Re: [osol-mktg] Spreading
theword)
Ulf Andreasson
Ulf at Andreasson.co.uk
Tue Sep 20 12:49:06 PDT 2005
I think many of us do agree with Bharath's 2 factors and as you say
Patrick this is in the plan ... from a community POV wouldn't it be
beneficial to have this plan more in the open .... ?
adding a different point too .... it is interesting to read about what
IBM is doing right now ..... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26258
> United States is losing its competitive edge. It will financially
> back employees who want to leave the company to become math and
> science teachers.
>
> More than 100 IBM employees will be eligible for the programme in its
> trial phase.
is it just pure help to the society or is it a cunning marketing plan
from IBM marketing for the long haul ;)
reg//ulf
Patrick Finch wrote:
> Bharath,
>
> Yes, we have definitely taken this into account in our priorities -
> and you will see more activities from us in this area. thanks,
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick, As i mentioned in my previoius replay (which is yet to
>> appear on the OS mailing list since I don't have all the required
>> mailing-list permissions), I too agree that the community should be
>> the one to support OS. I'd be glad if we're indeed thinking on
>> those lines already. I'd again like to draw attention to regions
>> where a high volume of students graduate in Computer Science every
>> year. It is very likely that the market/economy in these regions is
>> only just maturing to be able to spend on IT infrastructure (and
>> bandwidth is also an issue in such countried). Put these factors
>> together and you'll see why all these people should come out of
>> college armed with knowledge in OS (which, hopefully, will have
>> enough penetration soon in these regions). The 2 factors - market
>> demand & knowledge - obviously have a cyclic dependency on each
>> other. So, fuelling one factor might provide an im petus to the
>> other. Which is why one cannot over emphasize the importance of
>> introducing OS in educational circles in these regions. I hope
>> we're already doing something about it.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards, Bharath
>>
>> */Patrick Finch <Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM>/* wrote:
>>
>> Tim, Bharath,
>>
>> I think and hope that we're actually already thinking along those
>> lines: I won't go into all the details of the education engagement
>> plan, but getting OpenSolaris media widely available, with some
>> training materials, is top priority. Even though the source can be
>> downloaded for free, network bandwidth isn't the same all around
>> the world, so we felt that this will be quite an enabler.
>>
>> Tim's point on support is a good one too: OpenSolaris is supported
>> by the community. There are a number of academic programmes which
>> sees Sun donating equipment to institutions, but donating support
>> contracts (beyond warranty) is virgin territory as far as I'm
>> aware.
>>
>> This is all great food for thought -thanks- and if you would like
>> to discuss the details of our planning, please let me know.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Foster wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bharath
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 13:21, Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, I just wanted to mention a new phenomenon in tech marketing
>>>> that i came across in India: A number of companies have
>>>> resorted to
>> giving
>>>> away software (with support) to premier institutions in the
>>>> country absolutely free.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yep, that makes perfect sense : of course, OpenSolaris is already
>>> absolutely free - but yes, there should be some contact between
>>> the OpenSolaris community and universities everywhere.
>>> Thankfully, there already is !
>>>
>>> There are guys who I believe are looking at this stuff at
>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/ I've Cc:d that list on
>>> this email (sorry for the cross-post)
>>>
>>> I'd have loved it if my university had OpenSolari s instead of
>> Linux on
>>> the curriculum for a whole load of reasons, but I don't want to
>> risk a
>>> flamewar, so I'll stop there!
>>>
>>> Perhaps the -edu folks have ideas that can help implement your
>> excellent
>>> suggestion ?
>>>
>>> The question of support is one I don't know how to answer (I'm
>>> kinda busy as is, and probably couldn't cope with taking it on
>>> myself
>> ;-) At
>>> the very least though, getting OpenSolaris into university
>> curriculums
>>> can be done *now* and perhaps support could be provided through
>> general
>>> interaction with the community ? Not everything has to be donated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> from a
>>> corporate entity...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion though - I think it's a good one.
>>>
>>> cheers, tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In addition, they also take time to impart training (through
>>>> developers located in the vicinity of the institutions) in the
>>>> relevant concepts involved . For instance, a University that
>> governs
>>>> colleges around Bangalore mandates that the Linux environment
>>>> be
>> used
>>>> to carry out minor projects in related to Operating Systems in
>> general
>>>> & Unix in particular. Linux is advocated primarily because it's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> free.
>>>> Would it not be a good idea to publicize OS and impress upon
>>>> the
>> Univs
>>>> the importance of OS to the area of Operating Systems? So,
>> Operating
>>>> Systems courses could involve Solaris as a case study & use OS
>> (which
>>>> is free) in their projects. That'd help get word around even
>> better, i
>>>> thought (and you have students with the knowledge of Solaris
>>>> graduating out). Like I mentioned earlier, this is just an
>> observation
>>>> I made. Comments welcome. Regards, Bharath This message posted
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