From benr at cuddletech.com Sun Apr 9 02:11:58 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 02:11:58 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference Message-ID: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we need to organize something solo? This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at LinuxWorld. If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we need to start knocking on doors to work out something. benr. From stevel at sun.com Sun Apr 9 09:30:30 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 09:30:30 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <6004818.1144567043979.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> References: <6004818.1144567043979.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <443936A6.4070108@sun.com> Moazam Raja wrote: > I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, > > What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) > > Thanks. > > -M > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) list, which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, but it's definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. I don't know what license it is under though. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 01:54:30 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:54:30 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <443936A6.4070108@sun.com> References: <6004818.1144567043979.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <443936A6.4070108@sun.com> Message-ID: <443A1D46.3030403@holland.sun.com> Hi, The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s). The OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun partners (per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially community-friendly. I will check to see if the logo is based on a particular font and report back if there is any positive news. In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current terms are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although it looks a little out of date to me). Sara, any news to report? regards Patrick Stephen Lau wrote: > Moazam Raja wrote: > >>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, >> >>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) >> >>Thanks. >> >>-M >> >> >>This message posted from opensolaris.org >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) list, > which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, but it's > definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. > > I don't know what license it is under though. > > cheers, > steve > From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 07:41:59 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:41:59 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <443A6EB7.5000803@sun.com> Ben: Thanks for heads up! I'll ping into the corporate events team and get more details. Would be great to have presence there (even guerilla) Hey Teresa or Alan: Have you heard anything? LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. > Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and looking > at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. > > Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth > at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we > need to organize something solo? > > This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL is > driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations tends > to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning Linux... > we need to change that perception and this is an excellent event at > which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at LinuxWorld. > > If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we > need to start knocking on doors to work out something. > > benr. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 11:41:25 2006 From: Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM (Teresa Giacomini) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:41:25 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443A6EB7.5000803@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443A6EB7.5000803@sun.com> Message-ID: <443AA6D5.5080101@Sun.COM> Nope...but it might be worth checking with Rebecca Hansen. Laura Ramsey wrote On 04/10/06 07:41,: > > Ben: > Thanks for heads up! I'll ping into the corporate events team and get > more details. > Would be great to have presence there (even guerilla) > > Hey Teresa or Alan: Have you heard anything? > > LKR > > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >> >> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >> need to organize something solo? >> >> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at >> LinuxWorld. >> >> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >> >> benr. >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > > From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 13:34:17 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:34:17 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Message-ID: <91b4d8ff62.8ff6291b4d@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> The OpenSolaris logo is generated using a Sun font. Which means that Sun owns the rights to the font as part of our brand. So, no is the most accurate answer. As Patrick pointed out, Sun has trademarked the OpenSolaris name, so there are rules and guidelines associated with it's use. This is similar to other open source communities which own and regulate the use of their trademarks. Do the fan buttons help you in any way? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ What is it you would like to do? I'll work with you to see what we can do to help you to achieve that within the existing boundaries. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick finch Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:54 am Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > Hi, > > The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the > current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a > graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s). The > OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun partners > (per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially > community-friendly. I will check to see if the logo is based on a > particular font and report back if there is any positive news. > > In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this > might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current terms > are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although it > looks a > little out of date to me). > > Sara, any news to report? > > > > regards > > Patrick > > > > > > > Stephen Lau wrote: > > Moazam Raja wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, > >> > >>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available > under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) > >> > >>Thanks. > >> > >>-M > >> > >> > >>This message posted from opensolaris.org > >>_______________________________________________ > >>opensolaris-discuss mailing list > >>opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > > > > Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) > list, > > which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, > but it's > > definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. > > > > I don't know what license it is under though. > > > > cheers, > > steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > From stevel at sun.com Mon Apr 10 13:43:00 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:43:00 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <91b4d8ff62.8ff6291b4d@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <91b4d8ff62.8ff6291b4d@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <443AC354.9040504@sun.com> Hi Sara, This seems... wrong, somehow. Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this policy, then it will encourage people to either: a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun sic'ing our lawyers on them b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did here last year: http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 It seems like both cases are undesirable. cheers, steve Sara Dornsife wrote: > The OpenSolaris logo is generated using a Sun font. Which means that Sun owns the rights to the font as part of our brand. So, no is the most accurate answer. As Patrick pointed out, Sun has trademarked the OpenSolaris name, so there are rules and guidelines associated with it's use. This is similar to other open source communities which own and regulate the use of their trademarks. > > Do the fan buttons help you in any way? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ > > What is it you would like to do? I'll work with you to see what we can do to help you to achieve that within the existing boundaries. > Sara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick finch > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:54 am > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > >>Hi, >> >>The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the >>current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a >>graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s). The >>OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun partners >>(per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially >>community-friendly. I will check to see if the logo is based on a >>particular font and report back if there is any positive news. >> >>In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this >>might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current terms >>are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although it >>looks a >>little out of date to me). >> >>Sara, any news to report? >> >> >> >>regards >> >>Patrick >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Stephen Lau wrote: >> >>>Moazam Raja wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, >>>> >>>>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available >> >>under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) >> >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>>-M >>>> >>>> >>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>>>opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org >>> >>> >>>Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) >> >>list, >> >>>which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, >> >>but it's >> >>>definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. >>> >>>I don't know what license it is under though. >>> >>>cheers, >>>steve >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 14:26:02 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:26:02 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Message-ID: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to do. The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else you are looking for? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lau Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > Hi Sara, > > This seems... wrong, somehow. > Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow > people > to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this > policy, > then it will encourage people to either: > > a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun > sic'ing > our lawyers on them > b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did > here > last year: > http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 > > It seems like both cases are undesirable. > > cheers, > steve > > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > The OpenSolaris logo is generated using a Sun font. Which means > that Sun owns the rights to the font as part of our brand. So, no > is the most accurate answer. As Patrick pointed out, Sun has > trademarked the OpenSolaris name, so there are rules and > guidelines associated with it's use. This is similar to other open > source communities which own and regulate the use of their > trademarks. > > > > Do the fan buttons help you in any way? > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ > > > > What is it you would like to do? I'll work with you to see what > we can do to help you to achieve that within the existing > boundaries. > > Sara > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: patrick finch > > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:54 am > > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the > >>current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a > >>graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s). The > >>OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun > partners>>(per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially > >>community-friendly. I will check to see if the logo is based on a > >>particular font and report back if there is any positive news. > >> > >>In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this > >>might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current > terms>>are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although > it > >>looks a > >>little out of date to me). > >> > >>Sara, any news to report? > >> > >> > >> > >>regards > >> > >>Patrick > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Stephen Lau wrote: > >> > >>>Moazam Raja wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, > >>>> > >>>>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available > >> > >>under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) > >> > >>>>Thanks. > >>>> > >>>>-M > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>opensolaris-discuss mailing list > >>>>opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > >>> > >>> > >>>Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) > >> > >>list, > >> > >>>which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, > >> > >>but it's > >> > >>>definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. > >>> > >>>I don't know what license it is under though. > >>> > >>>cheers, > >>>steve > >>> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list > >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > >> > > > -- > stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net > opensolaris // solaris kernel development > From stevel at sun.com Mon Apr 10 14:39:11 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:39:11 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <443AD07F.8020501@sun.com> (forgot to cc osol-mktg) Ah, my mistake... I confused the logo/font issue. I was thinking more along the lines of the Linux logos incorporating Tux [1] which can be used freely. I think the fan buttons are great, but they can't be incorporated easily into other logos due to the "must remain visually distinct" clause. i.e., you can't have a logo like http://www.linux.org/ which incorporates Tux as a central part of the logo. I'd like to see a freely-usable logo consisting of just the blue/orange opensolaris text which other distributions could incorporate into a logo or banner of some kind on their website, i.e.: "Foosix - an opensolaris distribution" or something. For instance, I think it'd be nice (for both the distribution and for the OpenSolaris community) if when they were making CD/DVD cover art, they could put the "opensolaris" logo somewhere on their disc art. Hope that helps clarify what I was looking for... cheers, steve [1] http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/logo/ Sara Dornsife wrote: > My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. > > The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to do. > > The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else you are looking for? > Sara > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lau > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > >>Hi Sara, >> >>This seems... wrong, somehow. >>Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow >>people >>to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this >>policy, >>then it will encourage people to either: >> >>a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun >>sic'ing >>our lawyers on them >>b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did >>here >>last year: >>http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >> >>It seems like both cases are undesirable. >> >>cheers, >>steve >> >>Sara Dornsife wrote: >> >>>The OpenSolaris logo is generated using a Sun font. Which means >> >>that Sun owns the rights to the font as part of our brand. So, no >>is the most accurate answer. As Patrick pointed out, Sun has >>trademarked the OpenSolaris name, so there are rules and >>guidelines associated with it's use. This is similar to other open >>source communities which own and regulate the use of their >>trademarks. >> >>>Do the fan buttons help you in any way? >> >>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ >> >>>What is it you would like to do? I'll work with you to see what >> >>we can do to help you to achieve that within the existing >>boundaries. >> >>>Sara >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: patrick finch >>>Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:54 am >>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the >>>>current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a >>>>graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s). The >>>>OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun >> >>partners>>(per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially >> >>>>community-friendly. I will check to see if the logo is based on a >>>>particular font and report back if there is any positive news. >>>> >>>>In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this >>>>might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current >> >>terms>>are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although >>it >> >>>>looks a >>>>little out of date to me). >>>> >>>>Sara, any news to report? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>regards >>>> >>>>Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Stephen Lau wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Moazam Raja wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes, >>>>>> >>>>>>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available >>>> >>>>under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?) >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>-M >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>>>>>opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) >>>> >>>>list, >>>> >>>> >>>>>which I've cc'd here. I don't know if the specific logo is up, >>>> >>>>but it's >>>> >>>> >>>>>definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section. >>>>> >>>>>I don't know what license it is under though. >>>>> >>>>>cheers, >>>>>steve >>>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>>> >> >> >>-- >>stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net >>opensolaris // solaris kernel development >> -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From benr at cuddletech.com Mon Apr 10 15:05:22 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:05:22 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <443AD6A2.8070209@cuddletech.com> I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its still, clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my solution, the "go it alone" approach. Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, etc) that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the fan buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally acceptable. For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both created using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the L and I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm not sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 myself, which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that "kindergarten modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this discussion when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I have refrained from creating any new ones. benr. PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal while looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look back and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png Sara Dornsife wrote: > My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. > > The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to do. > > The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else you are looking for? > Sara > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lau > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > >> Hi Sara, >> >> This seems... wrong, somehow. >> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow >> people >> to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this >> policy, >> then it will encourage people to either: >> >> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun >> sic'ing >> our lawyers on them >> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did >> here >> last year: >> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >> >> It seems like both cases are undesirable. >> >> cheers, >> steve >> From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 15:42:21 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:42:21 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <443AD6A2.8070209@cuddletech.com> References: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <443AD6A2.8070209@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <443ADF4D.8040009@sun.com> Hey Sara: can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I was surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates indicate Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has moved away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to maneuver here.) LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its still, > clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my > solution, the "go it alone" approach. > > Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which > memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, etc) > that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the fan > buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally > acceptable. > > > For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both created > using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the L and > I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm not > sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have > created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 myself, > which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that "kindergarten > modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: > http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png > > With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this discussion > when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I > have refrained from creating any new ones. > > benr. > > PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal while > looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look back > and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've > accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png > > > Sara Dornsife wrote: > >> My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, >> not intended to be a response to logo usage. >> The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can >> be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The >> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in >> open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their >> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty >> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of >> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to >> do. >> The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a >> proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan >> buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for >> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - >> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else >> you are looking for? >> Sara >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Stephen Lau >> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm >> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >> >> >> >>> Hi Sara, >>> >>> This seems... wrong, somehow. >>> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow >>> people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this >>> policy, then it will encourage people to either: >>> >>> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun >>> sic'ing our lawyers on them >>> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did >>> here last year: >>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >>> >>> It seems like both cases are undesirable. >>> >>> cheers, >>> steve >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From stevel at sun.com Mon Apr 10 15:45:14 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:45:14 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <443ADF4D.8040009@sun.com> References: <90bdb926fa.926fa90bdb@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <443AD6A2.8070209@cuddletech.com> <443ADF4D.8040009@sun.com> Message-ID: <443ADFFA.5040704@sun.com> We've certainly moved away from it internally for all our templates. I remember seeing an email saying that we weren't going to be using it anymore. That'd be great if we could use it freely externally. cheers, steve Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Hey Sara: > can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I was > surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates indicate > Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has moved > away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to maneuver > here.) > > LKR > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its still, >> clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my >> solution, the "go it alone" approach. >> >> Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which >> memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, etc) >> that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the fan >> buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally >> acceptable. >> >> >> For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both created >> using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the L and >> I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm not >> sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have >> created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 myself, >> which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that "kindergarten >> modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: >> http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png >> >> With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this discussion >> when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I >> have refrained from creating any new ones. >> >> benr. >> >> PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal while >> looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look back >> and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've >> accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png >> >> >> Sara Dornsife wrote: >> >>> My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, >>> not intended to be a response to logo usage. >>> The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can >>> be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The >>> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in >>> open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their >>> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty >>> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of >>> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to >>> do. >>> The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a >>> proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan >>> buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for >>> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - >>> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else >>> you are looking for? >>> Sara >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Stephen Lau >>> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm >>> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Sara, >>>> >>>> This seems... wrong, somehow. >>>> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow >>>> people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this >>>> policy, then it will encourage people to either: >>>> >>>> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun >>>> sic'ing our lawyers on them >>>> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did >>>> here last year: >>>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >>>> >>>> It seems like both cases are undesirable. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> steve >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 15:55:30 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:55:30 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443AA6D5.5080101@Sun.COM> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443A6EB7.5000803@sun.com> <443AA6D5.5080101@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <443AE262.4050005@sun.com> Good lead. thx! LKR Teresa Giacomini wrote: > Nope...but it might be worth checking with Rebecca Hansen. > > Laura Ramsey wrote On 04/10/06 07:41,: > >> >> Ben: >> Thanks for heads up! I'll ping into the corporate events team and >> get more details. >> Would be great to have presence there (even guerilla) >> >> Hey Teresa or Alan: Have you heard anything? >> >> LKR >> >> >> >> Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>> >>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >>> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >>> need to organize something solo? >>> >>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >>> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >>> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >>> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >>> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than >>> at LinuxWorld. >>> >>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >>> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>> >>> benr. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 17:43:54 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:43:54 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Message-ID: <9624f9a0ac.9a0ac9624f@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> cc'ing mktg list -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Sara Dornsife Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:41:36 -0500 Size: 7822 URL: From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 17:52:49 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:52:49 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Message-ID: <975409947c.9947c97540@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Rockwood Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:05 pm Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its still, > clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my > solution, > the "go it alone" approach. For right or wrong or better or worse, OpenSolaris is a trademark of Sun and does have guidelines and requirements for use. We are trying to make them as leniant as possible, but we still have to follow them. > > Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which > memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, > etc) > that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the > fan > buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally > acceptable. This would be an acceptable solution as long as the guidelines are followed. > > For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both > created > using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the L > and > I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm > not > sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have > created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 > myself, > which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that > "kindergarten > modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: > http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png Your logos aren't legally sanctioned and could cause problems. > > With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this > discussion when > I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I > have > refrained from creating any new ones. Thanks for that. :) There are user group buttons as well amongst the fan buttons. > > benr. > > PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal > while > looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look > back and > realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've > accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png We're quickly coming up on one year! I know I'm proud of all the work we've done. > > > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > My font response was in answer to the font question that was > asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. > > > > The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that > can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The > restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, > in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their > trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty > similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of > OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT > to do. > > > > The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have > a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the > fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for > OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - > suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something > else you are looking for? > > Sara > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen Lau > > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm > > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > > > > >> Hi Sara, > >> > >> This seems... wrong, somehow. > >> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow > >> people > >> to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep this > >> policy, > >> then it will encourage people to either: > >> > >> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun > >> sic'ing > >> our lawyers on them > >> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben > did > >> here > >> last year: > >> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 > >> > >> It seems like both cases are undesirable. > >> > >> cheers, > >> steve > >> > > From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Mon Apr 10 17:54:07 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:54:07 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? Message-ID: <9d5479bfec.9bfec9d547@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Ben answered this, it is some other font that he doesn't even like... And yes, it can be used. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Ramsey Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:42 pm Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > Hey Sara: > can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I > was > surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates > indicate > Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has > moved > away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to > maneuver > here.) > > LKR > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > > > I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its > still, > > clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my > > solution, the "go it alone" approach. > > > > Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by > which > > memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, > etc) > > that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the > fan > > buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally > > acceptable. > > > > > > For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both > created > > using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the > L and > > I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, > I'm not > > sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could > have > > created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 > myself, > > which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that > "kindergarten > > modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: > > http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png > > > > With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this > discussion > > when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that > time I > > have refrained from creating any new ones. > > > > benr. > > > > PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal > while > > looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look > back > > and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much > we've > > accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png > > > > > > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > > >> My font response was in answer to the font question that was > asked, > >> not intended to be a response to logo usage. > >> The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that > can > >> be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The > >> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to > Sun, in > >> open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their > >> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty > >> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity > of > >> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should > WANT to > >> do. > >> The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have > a > >> proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the > fan > >> buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for > >> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - > >> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something > else > >> you are looking for? > >> Sara > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Stephen Lau > >> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm > >> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi Sara, > >>> > >>> This seems... wrong, somehow. > >>> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we > allow > >>> people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep > this > >>> policy, then it will encourage people to either: > >>> > >>> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of > Sun > >>> sic'ing our lawyers on them > >>> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben > did > >>> here last year: > >>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 > >>> > >>> It seems like both cases are undesirable. > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> steve > >>> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > > From stevel at sun.com Mon Apr 10 21:35:29 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:35:29 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <9624f9a0ac.9a0ac9624f@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <9624f9a0ac.9a0ac9624f@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <20060411043529.GA208292@jurassic.eng.sun.com> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 07:43:54PM -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > > I was thinking more along the lines of the Linux logos > > incorporating Tux > > [1] which can be used freely. I think the fan buttons are great, > > but > > they can't be incorporated easily into other logos due to the > > "must > > remain visually distinct" clause. > > Mascots and logos are different and I will get clarification on that and send it around. The TM guidelines are very clear about visually distinct, and that requirement is not going to change. That falls under brand protection. How are mascots and logos distinct? (Sorry, I'm really not looking to pick a fight or anything... I'm just genuinely curious, I'm not aware of the differences between the two since it seems like is overlap). Is the Microsoft Windows flag considered a logo? or a mascot? And are they (mascots vs. logos) governed under different trademark or copyright guidelines legally? > > i.e., you can't have a logo like > > http://www.linux.org/ > > which incorporates Tux as a central part of the logo. > > Tux is a mascot, not a logo. > > > > > I'd like to see a freely-usable logo consisting of just the > > blue/orange > > opensolaris text which other distributions could incorporate into > > a logo > > or banner of some kind on their website, i.e.: > > The colors are a different story. They are part of our brand, but they aren't specific to Sun - like the blue in the Sun logo or the red in Coke. That should be fine. > > > > > "Foosix - an opensolaris distribution" or something. For > > instance, I > > think it'd be nice (for both the distribution and for the > > OpenSolaris > > community) if when they were making CD/DVD cover art, they could > > put the > > "opensolaris" logo somewhere on their disc art. > > A Sun trademark (or anyone else's) can NOT be included in the mark (trademarked or not) of another entity. So while no one can "build it in" to their name, you can say that you are "based on OpenSolaris" in text seperately if that is true. That's part of the fair use of the trademark. so if I read your other email right: we can use the Sun Sans font freely externally? so combining the above sentences on "based on OpenSolaris" and colours - can someone write "based on opensolaris" in the blue/orange colours in Sun Sans font? > > Hope that helps clarify what I was looking for... > > I hope that helps too :) thanks for the details :) cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Tue Apr 11 02:03:57 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:03:57 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <9d5479bfec.9bfec9d547@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <9d5479bfec.9bfec9d547@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <443B70FD.4010508@holland.sun.com> And just to close one of the off-topic questions, according to brand.sun.com, SunSans Demi, Italic and Bold are the fonts for titles and headers in Sun marketing collaterals, although they do seem to have disappeared from presentations... Patrick Sara Dornsife wrote: > Ben answered this, it is some other font that he doesn't even like... And yes, it can be used. > Sara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Ramsey > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:42 pm > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? > > >>Hey Sara: >>can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I >>was >>surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates >>indicate >>Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has >>moved >>away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to >>maneuver >>here.) >> >>LKR >> >> >>Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >> >>>I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its >> >>still, >> >>>clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my >>>solution, the "go it alone" approach. >>> >>>Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by >> >>which >> >>>memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, >> >>etc) >> >>>that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the >> >>fan >> >>>buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally >>>acceptable. >>> >>> >>>For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both >> >>created >> >>>using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the >> >>L and >> >>>I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, >> >>I'm not >> >>>sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could >> >>have >> >>>created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 >> >>myself, >> >>>which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that >> >>"kindergarten >> >>>modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: >>>http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png >>> >>>With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this >> >>discussion >> >>>when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that >> >>time I >> >>>have refrained from creating any new ones. >>> >>>benr. >>> >>>PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal >> >>while >> >>>looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look >> >>back >> >>>and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much >> >>we've >> >>>accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png >>> >>> >>>Sara Dornsife wrote: >>> >>> >>>>My font response was in answer to the font question that was >> >>asked, >> >>>>not intended to be a response to logo usage. >>>>The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that >> >>can >> >>>>be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The >>>>restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to >> >>Sun, in >> >>>>open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their >>>>trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty >>>>similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity >> >>of >> >>>>OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should >> >>WANT to >> >>>>do. >>>>The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have >> >>a >> >>>>proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the >> >>fan >> >>>>buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for >>>>OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - >>>>suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something >> >>else >> >>>>you are looking for? >>>>Sara >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Stephen Lau >>>>Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm >>>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Sara, >>>>> >>>>>This seems... wrong, somehow. >>>>>Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we >> >>allow >> >>>>>people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep >> >>this >> >>>>>policy, then it will encourage people to either: >>>>> >>>>>a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of >> >>Sun >> >>>>>sic'ing our lawyers on them >>>>>b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben >> >>did >> >>>>>here last year: >>>>>http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >>>>> >>>>>It seems like both cases are undesirable. >>>>> >>>>>cheers, >>>>>steve >>>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 11 06:14:35 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:14:35 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? In-Reply-To: <443B70FD.4010508@holland.sun.com> References: <9d5479bfec.9bfec9d547@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> <443B70FD.4010508@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: <443BABBB.4020502@sun.com> Okay--so we're back to guidelines for using the "font" that is utilized in the Wordmark. (I get that Ben has his own approach and doesn't like Sun Serif) If we can clear approval to use the Sun Serif, then folks who'd like to use it to create visual synergy with opensolaris wordmark art "can". I think some general visual guidelines are a good thing, as long as they present choice and not "rules". Many of the user group pages are starting to get their own look and feel. This is a good thing. And they'd love it even more if there were choice templates and fonts that can be utilized easily. Likewise Stephen's request below. LKR patrick finch wrote: >And just to close one of the off-topic questions, according to >brand.sun.com, SunSans Demi, Italic and Bold are the fonts for titles >and headers in Sun marketing collaterals, although they do seem to have >disappeared from presentations... > >Patrick > > >Sara Dornsife wrote: > > >>Ben answered this, it is some other font that he doesn't even like... And yes, it can be used. >>Sara >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Laura Ramsey >>Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:42 pm >>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >> >> >> >> >>>Hey Sara: >>>can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I >>>was >>>surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates >>>indicate >>>Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has >>>moved >>>away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to >>>maneuver >>>here.) >>> >>>LKR >>> >>> >>>Ben Rockwood wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its >>>> >>>> >>>still, >>> >>> >>> >>>>clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my >>>>solution, the "go it alone" approach. >>>> >>>>Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by >>>> >>>> >>>which >>> >>> >>> >>>>memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, >>>> >>>> >>>etc) >>> >>> >>> >>>>that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the >>>> >>>> >>>fan >>> >>> >>> >>>>buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally >>>>acceptable. >>>> >>>> >>>>For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both >>>> >>>> >>>created >>> >>> >>> >>>>using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the >>>> >>>> >>>L and >>> >>> >>> >>>>I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, >>>> >>>> >>>I'm not >>> >>> >>> >>>>sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could >>>> >>>> >>>have >>> >>> >>> >>>>created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 >>>> >>>> >>>myself, >>> >>> >>> >>>>which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that >>>> >>>> >>>"kindergarten >>> >>> >>> >>>>modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet: >>>>http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png >>>> >>>>With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this >>>> >>>> >>>discussion >>> >>> >>> >>>>when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that >>>> >>>> >>>time I >>> >>> >>> >>>>have refrained from creating any new ones. >>>> >>>>benr. >>>> >>>>PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal >>>> >>>> >>>while >>> >>> >>> >>>>looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look >>>> >>>> >>>back >>> >>> >>> >>>>and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much >>>> >>>> >>>we've >>> >>> >>> >>>>accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png >>>> >>>> >>>>Sara Dornsife wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>My font response was in answer to the font question that was >>>>> >>>>> >>>asked, >>> >>> >>> >>>>>not intended to be a response to logo usage. >>>>>The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that >>>>> >>>>> >>>can >>> >>> >>> >>>>>be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The >>>>>restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to >>>>> >>>>> >>>Sun, in >>> >>> >>> >>>>>open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their >>>>>trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty >>>>>similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity >>>>> >>>>> >>>of >>> >>> >>> >>>>>OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should >>>>> >>>>> >>>WANT to >>> >>> >>> >>>>>do. >>>>>The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have >>>>> >>>>> >>>a >>> >>> >>> >>>>>proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the >>>>> >>>>> >>>fan >>> >>> >>> >>>>>buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for >>>>>OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - >>>>>suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something >>>>> >>>>> >>>else >>> >>> >>> >>>>>you are looking for? >>>>>Sara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: Stephen Lau >>>>>Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm >>>>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Sara, >>>>>> >>>>>>This seems... wrong, somehow. >>>>>>Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>allow >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>this >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>policy, then it will encourage people to either: >>>>>> >>>>>>a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Sun >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>sic'ing our lawyers on them >>>>>>b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>did >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>here last year: >>>>>>http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273 >>>>>> >>>>>>It seems like both cases are undesirable. >>>>>> >>>>>>cheers, >>>>>>steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >opensolaris-mktg mailing list >opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 06:32:50 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:32:50 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Translating the OpenSolaris Book from German into English...? Message-ID: <443D0182.7080808@sun.com> Hi Folks: I remember hearing/seeing this in a thread somewhere...but can't remember...So here's the fabulous OpenSolaris book in German... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3540292365/sr=1-1/qid=1144743716/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0595011-1807032?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books Is there an english version? Can we light up a translation project out in the content project? From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 08:51:46 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:51:46 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Featured in Linux Format Magazine--with BeliniX DVD! Message-ID: <443D2212.6060604@sun.com> This just in from Chhandomay--the OpenSolaris feature and BeliniX DVD is out.. in the April edition of Linux Format. Congrats Moinak! thanks Dennis! Thanks ERIC! Great visibility for the OpenSolaris community! Cheers! LKR ------- All: Mike Saunders published a very positive, in-depth 'how to' article for OpenSolaris in this month's Linux Format. The article was accompanied by a DVD of OpenSolaris distribution Belenix 0.4a. Linux Format is the top selling Linux publication in the UK and also has significant readership in the US. Saunders wrote the how-to and installation guide based on his own testing of OpenSolaris using the included Belenix distribution in the accompanying DVD. The combined how-to and DVD in this publication are ideal for reaching out to Linux developers and users, and should be a great lead generator for additional trial runs of OpenSolaris. Overall this is a very positive piece. Saunders opens the article by praising Solaris, highlighting "it has an excellent and well-deserved reputation of being rock-solid and speedy on multi-CPU servers - it's very much the OS of choice for large-scale Oracle database systems." He then goes into the benefits of running opening up Solaris to a community audience. The piece is quite technical and walks users for the steps of installing and running OpenSolaris. On the feature side, Saunders encourages users to visit the open versions of Dtrace and Solaris Zones -- highlighting these as two tremendous features of Solaris 10. Saunders highlights through the 'how-to' piece that while OpenSolaris - and Solaris in general - are decent for desktop environment, that it really shines with large servers. He mentions, " Cosmetically, Belenix is similar to many Linux distributions. Solaris was already heading in this direction before Sun open sourced it, as Solaris 10 (the current release) uses the Gnome-based JDS as its default desktop environment. It's when you dig under the surface that you uncover the astoundingly powerful features and capabilities that have kept Solaris a favourite of many admins. They're not the kind of features that will revolutionise a desktop experience, but on 'big iron' machines they're mightily valuable." The article is only available in print, but we received a PDF of the article and have attached below. Many people contributed to the success of this piece. Many thanks go to Laura Ramsey for pulling this all together under a very tight deadline, and to Moinak Ghosh, Dennis Clarke, and Eric Boutlier for contributions to the DVD. Thanks Chhandomay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. > Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and looking > at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. > > Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth > at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we > need to organize something solo? > > This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL is > driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations tends > to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning Linux... > we need to change that perception and this is an excellent event at > which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at LinuxWorld. > > If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we > need to start knocking on doors to work out something. > > benr. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From dclarke at blastwave.org Wed Apr 12 09:26:37 2006 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] W/ATTACHMENT-- OpenSolaris Featured in Linux Format Magazine--with BeliniX DVD! In-Reply-To: <443D2272.7070501@sun.com> References: <443D2212.6060604@sun.com> <443D2272.7070501@sun.com> Message-ID: <2414.209.226.150.37.1144859197.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> This just in from Chhandomay--the OpenSolaris feature and BeliniX DVD >> is out.. in the April edition of Linux Format. >> Congrats Moinak! thanks Dennis! Thanks ERIC! Great visibility for >> the OpenSolaris community! >> >> Cheers! >> LKR >> The is a beautiful looking article. Its visually beautiful. I need to go update the Blastwave homepage to point to the magazine ! Dennis From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 09:36:28 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:36:28 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] W/ATTACHMENT-- OpenSolaris Featured in Linux Format Magazine--with BeliniX DVD! In-Reply-To: <2414.209.226.150.37.1144859197.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> References: <443D2212.6060604@sun.com> <443D2272.7070501@sun.com> <2414.209.226.150.37.1144859197.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> Message-ID: <443D2C8C.4020703@sun.com> They don't have it online yet. (strange, tho it is...) and so I'm looking at the online publishing rights. I'll negotiate Blastwave as one of the sites in the bid. BRB, LKR Dennis Clarke wrote: >>Laura Ramsey wrote: >> >> >> >>>This just in from Chhandomay--the OpenSolaris feature and BeliniX DVD >>>is out.. in the April edition of Linux Format. >>>Congrats Moinak! thanks Dennis! Thanks ERIC! Great visibility for >>>the OpenSolaris community! >>> >>>Cheers! >>>LKR >>> >>> >>> > >The is a beautiful looking article. Its visually beautiful. > >I need to go update the Blastwave homepage to point to the magazine ! > >Dennis > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 08:53:22 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:53:22 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] W/ATTACHMENT-- OpenSolaris Featured in Linux Format Magazine--with BeliniX DVD! In-Reply-To: <443D2212.6060604@sun.com> References: <443D2212.6060604@sun.com> Message-ID: <443D2272.7070501@sun.com> Laura Ramsey wrote: > > This just in from Chhandomay--the OpenSolaris feature and BeliniX DVD > is out.. in the April edition of Linux Format. > Congrats Moinak! thanks Dennis! Thanks ERIC! Great visibility for > the OpenSolaris community! > > Cheers! > LKR > > ------- > > All: > > Mike Saunders published a very positive, in-depth 'how to' article for > OpenSolaris in this month's Linux Format. The article was accompanied > by a DVD of OpenSolaris distribution Belenix 0.4a. Linux Format is the > top selling Linux publication in the UK and also has significant > readership in the US. > > Saunders wrote the how-to and installation guide based on his own > testing of OpenSolaris using the included Belenix distribution in the > accompanying DVD. The combined how-to and DVD in this publication are > ideal for reaching out to Linux developers and users, and should be a > great lead generator for additional trial runs of OpenSolaris. > > Overall this is a very positive piece. Saunders opens the article by > praising Solaris, highlighting "it has an excellent and well-deserved > reputation of being rock-solid and speedy on multi-CPU servers - it's > very much the OS of choice for large-scale Oracle database systems." > He then goes into the benefits of running opening up Solaris to a > community audience. > > The piece is quite technical and walks users for the steps of > installing and running OpenSolaris. On the feature side, Saunders > encourages users to visit the open versions of Dtrace and Solaris > Zones -- highlighting these as two tremendous features of Solaris 10. > > Saunders highlights through the 'how-to' piece that while OpenSolaris > - and Solaris in general - are decent for desktop environment, that it > really shines with large servers. He mentions, " Cosmetically, > Belenix is similar to many Linux distributions. Solaris was already > heading in this direction before Sun open sourced it, as Solaris 10 > (the current release) uses the Gnome-based JDS as its default desktop > environment. It's when you dig under the surface that you uncover the > astoundingly powerful features and capabilities that have kept Solaris > a favourite of many admins. They're not the kind of features that will > revolutionise a desktop experience, but on 'big iron' machines they're > mightily valuable." > > The article is only available in print, but we received a PDF of the > article and have attached below. > > Many people contributed to the success of this piece. Many thanks go > to Laura Ramsey for pulling this all together under a very tight > deadline, and to Moinak Ghosh, Dennis Clarke, and Eric Boutlier for > contributions to the DVD. > > Thanks > Chhandomay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just put a big fat link on the homepage :-) Dennis From benr at cuddletech.com Wed Apr 12 11:19:52 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:19:52 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> Message-ID: <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> Thanks for the details Laura, I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days with plans to be there. When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a 3510. Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers will actually desire. I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, these customers will also be interested in the web component, where Niagara can really shine. benr. Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Ben! > > We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing > Development Engineering team that is running this show. > This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been able > to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. > > BUT-- > He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let me > know and I'll get you in. > I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for the > buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll figure out > what we can do to take advantage of it. > > So, who would like a pass? > First come, first serve! > > Ben? > Alan? > Jim? > > LKR > > > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >> >> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >> need to organize something solo? >> >> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at >> LinuxWorld. >> >> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >> >> benr. >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 12:00:34 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:00:34 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <443D4E52.7020800@sun.com> Cool. you're definitely on the list. I'll also connect you to MDE directly so they could possibly take you up on this offer. Hey, Stephen: Is it possible to have a couple of the DVDs around / available for this? LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > Thanks for the details Laura, > > I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days > with plans to be there. > > When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be > interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the > standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a 3510. > Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest > significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the > OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that > OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue > on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a > workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as > demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers > will actually desire. > > I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo > OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. > While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, > these customers will also be interested in the web component, where > Niagara can really shine. > benr. > > > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Ben! >> >> We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing >> Development Engineering team that is running this show. >> This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been able >> to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. >> >> BUT-- >> He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let me >> know and I'll get you in. >> I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for the >> buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll figure out >> what we can do to take advantage of it. >> >> So, who would like a pass? >> First come, first serve! >> >> Ben? >> Alan? >> Jim? >> >> LKR >> >> >> >> >> Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>> >>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >>> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >>> need to organize something solo? >>> >>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >>> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >>> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >>> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >>> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than >>> at LinuxWorld. >>> >>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >>> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>> >>> benr. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> > From stevel at sun.com Wed Apr 12 12:07:41 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:07:41 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <443D4FFD.80403@sun.com> Hey Ben, Take a bunch of the DVDs we made... they have SXCR b36 (for x86), Sun Studio 10 (SPARC & x86), and the ON source delivery for b36 (SPARC & x86 BFU archives included). We're having a bunch shipped to MPK, Teresa should be able to hook you up with a bunch of those. cheers, steve Ben Rockwood wrote: > Thanks for the details Laura, > > I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days with > plans to be there. > > When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be > interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the > standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a 3510. > Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest > significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the OS > as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that > OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue on > many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a workstation > or two will work but not be nearly as effective as demo'ing the actual > sorts of systems and solutions these customers will actually desire. > > I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo > OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. While > its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, these > customers will also be interested in the web component, where Niagara > can really shine. > benr. > > > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Ben! >> >> We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing >> Development Engineering team that is running this show. >> This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been able >> to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. >> >> BUT-- >> He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let me >> know and I'll get you in. >> I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for the >> buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll figure out >> what we can do to take advantage of it. >> >> So, who would like a pass? >> First come, first serve! >> >> Ben? >> Alan? >> Jim? >> >> LKR >> >> >> >> >> Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>> >>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >>> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >>> need to organize something solo? >>> >>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >>> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >>> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >>> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >>> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at >>> LinuxWorld. >>> >>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >>> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>> >>> benr. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 12 12:13:28 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:13:28 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D5033.20305@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> <443D4E52.7020800@sun.com> <443D5033.20305@sun.com> Message-ID: <443D5158.1070406@sun.com> That's huge. Thanks! LKR Stephen Lau wrote: > Hey Laura, > Yes, definitely. Hopefully more than just a couple. :) > If for some reason I don't give out all the Nexenta CDs at FISL next > week, I'll bring those back and Ben can take the remainder to the > MySQL conference. > > cheers, > steve > > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Cool. you're definitely on the list. >> I'll also connect you to MDE directly so they could possibly take you >> up on this offer. >> >> Hey, Stephen: Is it possible to have a couple of the DVDs around / >> available for this? >> >> LKR >> >> >> Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the details Laura, >>> >>> I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days >>> with plans to be there. >>> >>> When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be >>> interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do >>> the standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a >>> 3510. Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest >>> significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the >>> OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that >>> OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue >>> on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a >>> workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as >>> demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers >>> will actually desire. >>> >>> I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo >>> OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. >>> While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, >>> these customers will also be interested in the web component, where >>> Niagara can really shine. >>> benr. >>> >>> >>> Laura Ramsey wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Ben! >>>> >>>> We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing >>>> Development Engineering team that is running this show. >>>> This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been >>>> able to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. >>>> >>>> BUT-- >>>> He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let >>>> me know and I'll get you in. >>>> I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for >>>> the buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll >>>> figure out what we can do to take advantage of it. >>>> >>>> So, who would like a pass? >>>> First come, first serve! >>>> >>>> Ben? >>>> Alan? >>>> Jim? >>>> >>>> LKR >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Rockwood wrote: >>>> >>>>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>>>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>>>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>>>> >>>>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun >>>>> booth at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or >>>>> will we need to organize something solo? >>>>> >>>>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. >>>>> MySQL is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the >>>>> stipulations tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the >>>>> interpret as meaning Linux... we need to change that perception >>>>> and this is an excellent event at which to do that. We'd be far >>>>> more productive there than at LinuxWorld. >>>>> >>>>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps >>>>> we need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>>>> >>>>> benr. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From benr at cuddletech.com Wed Apr 12 12:14:28 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:14:28 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D4FFD.80403@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> <443D4FFD.80403@sun.com> Message-ID: <443D5194.8040903@cuddletech.com> Sweet! Thanks Stephen. I think those of us that have worked any of the events have seen just how much impact we can have when we put something physical into a potential user/customers hands. People get jazzed and are more likely to become involved than just giving them the standard "you can download it now" pitch, which they hear all day at events like these. benr. Stephen Lau wrote: > Hey Ben, > > Take a bunch of the DVDs we made... they have SXCR b36 (for x86), Sun > Studio 10 (SPARC & x86), and the ON source delivery for b36 (SPARC & > x86 BFU archives included). > > We're having a bunch shipped to MPK, Teresa should be able to hook you > up with a bunch of those. > > cheers, > steve > > Ben Rockwood wrote: >> Thanks for the details Laura, >> >> I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days >> with plans to be there. >> >> When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be >> interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the >> standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a >> 3510. Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest >> significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the >> OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that >> OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue >> on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a >> workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as >> demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers >> will actually desire. >> >> I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo >> OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. >> While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, >> these customers will also be interested in the web component, where >> Niagara can really shine. >> benr. From stephen.lau at sun.com Wed Apr 12 12:08:35 2006 From: stephen.lau at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:08:35 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D4E52.7020800@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> <443D4E52.7020800@sun.com> Message-ID: <443D5033.20305@sun.com> Hey Laura, Yes, definitely. Hopefully more than just a couple. :) If for some reason I don't give out all the Nexenta CDs at FISL next week, I'll bring those back and Ben can take the remainder to the MySQL conference. cheers, steve Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Cool. you're definitely on the list. > I'll also connect you to MDE directly so they could possibly take you up > on this offer. > > Hey, Stephen: Is it possible to have a couple of the DVDs around / > available for this? > > LKR > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> Thanks for the details Laura, >> >> I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days >> with plans to be there. >> >> When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be >> interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the >> standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a 3510. >> Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest >> significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the >> OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that >> OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue >> on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a >> workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as >> demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers >> will actually desire. >> >> I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo >> OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. >> While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, >> these customers will also be interested in the web component, where >> Niagara can really shine. >> benr. >> >> >> Laura Ramsey wrote: >> >>> >>> Ben! >>> >>> We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing >>> Development Engineering team that is running this show. >>> This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been able >>> to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. >>> >>> BUT-- >>> He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let me >>> know and I'll get you in. >>> I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for the >>> buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll figure out >>> what we can do to take advantage of it. >>> >>> So, who would like a pass? >>> First come, first serve! >>> >>> Ben? >>> Alan? >>> Jim? >>> >>> LKR >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben Rockwood wrote: >>> >>>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>>> >>>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth >>>> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we >>>> need to organize something solo? >>>> >>>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >>>> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >>>> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >>>> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >>>> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than >>>> at LinuxWorld. >>>> >>>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >>>> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>>> >>>> benr. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>> >>> >>> >> > From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Thu Apr 13 06:28:15 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:28:15 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated community metrics In-Reply-To: <442D1915.7000009@holland.sun.com> References: <441ACFB3.5070509@sun.com> <442D1915.7000009@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: <443E51EF.2010805@holland.sun.com> All, there are updated metrics here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ regards Patrick From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 13 10:45:01 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:45:01 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated community metrics In-Reply-To: <443E51EF.2010805@holland.sun.com> References: <441ACFB3.5070509@sun.com> <442D1915.7000009@holland.sun.com> <443E51EF.2010805@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: <443E8E1D.2020107@sun.com> patrick finch wrote: > All, > > there are updated metrics here: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ Thanks, Patrick. I continue to be amazed at the massive opportunity we have internationally for outreach on this project. Our first year seems to be very US based, which probably makes sense. I'm referring specifically to the chart you have for "Location of Visitors to OpenSolaris.org." Now that we are just a couple of months away from our one year anniversary, I hope we can do more international community development next year. I also bet that due to language issues, we are not necessarily capturing all the international activity that *is* going on. Just a hunch. Either way, there's opportunity there. Thanks for posting this stuff. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Fri Apr 14 13:56:57 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:56:57 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) Message-ID: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> Hi-- for the Spin the wheel program at JavaOne, we can submit 3 questions. I'd love to make these witty and fun! Any suggestions? See below! LKR -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PLEASE READ: JavaOne Lead Generation Program--Spin The Wheel To Win Game Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:31:30 -0800 From: Linda.McCartney at Sun.COM To: 2006J1-PodLeads at sun.com Hi, It's back! Once again, the Spin The Wheel Game will be the main lead generation tool at this year's JavaOne. Registered attendees can visit the Sun pavilion to get answers to questions on a Lead Card which entitles them to spin the wheel and win a prize. Each Sun pod can sumbit 2-3 questions to be included in the Lead Card. Please note that all questions should be submitted in a mulitiple choice format. We've learned from past shows that having open-ended questions, leads to open-ended answers. We feel that mulitiple choice questions will eliminate a lot of confusion at both the pods and The Wheel as there will be only one correct answer. It would be helpful if you could also include some *wrong* answers to the multiple choice options for each question. DEADLINE: Submit all questions & answers to my attention no later than 5:00pm PDT, *Friday, March 31*. Please use the below format when making your submission: SUBMITTER'S NAME: POD TITLE: *Question 1:* Correct Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: *Question 2:* Correct Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: *Question 3:* Correct Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: Wrong Answer: If you're the contact for more than one pod, you can submit your questions in one email. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Linda -- * Linda McCartney * Marketing Events Operations *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* 10 Network circle, MPK10-209 Menlo Park, CA 94025 US Phone x80776/+1 650 786 0776 Mobile 650-224-9791 Email Linda.McCartney at Sun.COM -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 17 13:14:46 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:14:46 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> Message-ID: <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> Hi folks: I was just wondering--is it a crazy idea to sponsor a marketing project in the summer of code? There are many ways to participate!! ? LKR Jim Grisanzio wrote: > hey, guys. > > Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html > > This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers > worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under > this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those > mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the > greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the > opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new > areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: > http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html > > With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we > have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread > started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we > want to participate, though. > > My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the > OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to > be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. > Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the > interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a > Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We > can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students > to those participating projects. > > That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any > OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's > Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll > collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. > > Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. > > Best, > > Jim From webmink at sun.com Mon Apr 17 15:50:47 2006 From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:50:47 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> Message-ID: <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> It would definitely be acceptable to have marketing tasks as a proposed project under OpenSolaris, with a proposed mentor (you?) S. On Apr 17, 2006, at 21:14, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Hi folks: > I was just wondering--is it a crazy idea to sponsor a marketing > project in the summer of code? There are many ways to participate!! > > ? > > LKR > > > Jim Grisanzio wrote: > >> hey, guys. >> >> Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: >> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html >> >> This is the second summer where Google has engaged student >> developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source >> projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to >> be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to >> contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same >> time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- >> especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially >> question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/ >> mentorfaq.html >> >> With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we >> have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a >> thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act >> quickly if we want to participate, though. >> >> My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for >> the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ >> projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student >> developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread >> and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project >> pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students >> can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing >> Summer of Code students to those participating projects. >> >> That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any >> OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in >> Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could >> offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application >> process. >> >> Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. >> >> Best, >> >> Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 17 17:47:27 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:47:27 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> Message-ID: <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> Yes, maybe me, and Sara has some cool ideas as well! I think Ben, Jim, Tim and Glynn would also be outstanding mentors to help these folks start on the right foot, Marketing-wise! Any body have any ideas for projects to propose? LKR Simon Phipps wrote: > It would definitely be acceptable to have marketing tasks as a > proposed project under OpenSolaris, with a proposed mentor (you?) > > S. > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 21:14, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Hi folks: >> I was just wondering--is it a crazy idea to sponsor a marketing >> project in the summer of code? There are many ways to participate!! >> >> ? >> >> LKR >> >> >> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> >>> hey, guys. >>> >>> Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: >>> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html >>> >>> This is the second summer where Google has engaged student >>> developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source >>> projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to >>> be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to >>> contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same >>> time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- >>> especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially >>> question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/ >>> mentorfaq.html >>> >>> With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we >>> have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a >>> thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act >>> quickly if we want to participate, though. >>> >>> My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for >>> the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ >>> projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student >>> developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread >>> and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project >>> pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students >>> can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing >>> Summer of Code students to those participating projects. >>> >>> That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any >>> OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in >>> Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could >>> offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application >>> process. >>> >>> Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jim >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Mon Apr 17 17:49:20 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:49:20 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference]] Message-ID: <44443790.3010302@sun.com> Ben is running with it! check it out! LKR -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure what's involved ;) Off the top of my head, here are some possible projects - o Come up with a complete set of marketing materials for OpenSolaris focused on both the code and the community - posters, pamplets, CD artwork, business cards, flyers, fan buttons, t-shirt designs, presentation templates, ... o Develop a set of flash tours to OpenSolaris, demonstrating some of the key technologies like DTrace, Zones, SMF, ... o Develop a set of new web stylesheets for opensolaris.org o Write a set of documents for how to get involved o Do a set of developer OpenSolaris interviews or podcasts Glynn From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Tue Apr 18 03:18:17 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:18:17 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> Message-ID: <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> ok, here's my suggestion: What does the Z in ZFS (the breakthrough 128-bit file system in OpenSolaris) stand for? Correct Answer: Zetabyte Wrong Answer: Zone Wrong Answer: Zarquon Wrong Answer: nothing, it just sounds cool Laura Ramsey wrote: > > > Hi-- > > for the Spin the wheel program at JavaOne, we can submit 3 questions. > I'd love to make these witty and fun! > > Any suggestions? > > See below! > LKR > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: PLEASE READ: JavaOne Lead Generation Program--Spin The Wheel > To Win Game > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:31:30 -0800 > From: Linda.McCartney at Sun.COM > To: 2006J1-PodLeads at sun.com > > > > > >Hi, > >It's back! Once again, the Spin The Wheel Game will be the main lead >generation tool at this year's JavaOne. > >Registered attendees can visit the Sun pavilion to get answers to >questions on a Lead Card which entitles them to spin the wheel and win a >prize. > >Each Sun pod can sumbit 2-3 questions to be included in the Lead Card. >Please note that all questions should be submitted in a mulitiple choice >format. We've learned from past shows that having open-ended questions, >leads to open-ended answers. We feel that mulitiple choice questions >will eliminate a lot of confusion at both the pods and The Wheel as >there will be only one correct answer. It would be helpful if you could >also include some *wrong* answers to the multiple choice options for each >question. > >DEADLINE: Submit all questions & answers to my attention no later >than 5:00pm PDT, *Friday, March 31*. 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I think Ben, Jim, >>Tim and Glynn would also be outstanding mentors to help these folks >>start on the right foot, Marketing-wise! >> >>Any body have any ideas for projects to propose? >> >> > >Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure >what's involved ;) > >Off the top of my head, here are some possible projects - > > o Come up with a complete set of marketing materials for OpenSolaris > focused on both the code and the community > - posters, pamplets, CD artwork, business cards, flyers, fan > buttons, t-shirt designs, presentation templates, ... > o Develop a set of flash tours to OpenSolaris, demonstrating > some of the key technologies like DTrace, Zones, SMF, ... > o Develop a set of new web stylesheets for opensolaris.org > Oooh, yeah...web help for Derek! > o Write a set of documents for how to get involved > o Do a set of developer OpenSolaris interviews or podcasts > > >Glynn > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was over by the Tech Mart if I > recall correctly. > Looks like we've got things covered for the show. I'll be there, along with 2 "engineers" (no idea who) from Sun and a sales guy. Its a small booth format, so it'll be a friendly afair. Kevin really came to our rescue and is getting us 2 X4100 servers for the show (fingers crossed). I requested more, but any magic he can perform is more than I can ask for at this point. I'm also bring my T2000 with me. We'll have DVD's and some shirts, I'm hoping. We'll do what we can. Anyone that wants to stop by and help/hangout for a while is welcome. Its at TechMart again (Santa Clara Convention Center, across from Great America). Sun's got two people speaking at a single BOF. So, not a huge presence, but we'll make a splash hopefully. benr. From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Apr 18 13:52:17 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:52:17 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> Message-ID: <44455181.3020805@sun.com> Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Yes, maybe me, and Sara has some cool ideas as well! I think Ben, Jim, > Tim and Glynn would also be outstanding mentors to help these folks > start on the right foot, Marketing-wise! > > Any body have any ideas for projects to propose? The Content Project will be offering our services as well. Jim > > Simon Phipps wrote: > >> It would definitely be acceptable to have marketing tasks as a >> proposed project under OpenSolaris, with a proposed mentor (you?) >> >> S. >> >> >> On Apr 17, 2006, at 21:14, Laura Ramsey wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi folks: >>> I was just wondering--is it a crazy idea to sponsor a marketing >>> project in the summer of code? There are many ways to participate!! >>> >>> ? >>> >>> LKR >>> >>> >>> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >>> >>>> hey, guys. >>>> >>>> Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: >>>> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html >>>> >>>> This is the second summer where Google has engaged student >>>> developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source >>>> projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to >>>> be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to >>>> contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same >>>> time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- >>>> especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially >>>> question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/ >>>> mentorfaq.html >>>> >>>> With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we >>>> have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a >>>> thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act >>>> quickly if we want to participate, though. >>>> >>>> My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for >>>> the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ >>>> projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student >>>> developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread >>>> and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project >>>> pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students >>>> can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing >>>> Summer of Code students to those participating projects. >>>> >>>> That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any >>>> OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in >>>> Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could >>>> offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application >>>> process. >>>> >>>> Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> >> > > From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Tue Apr 18 14:11:53 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:11:53 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <1145338203.12081.22.camel@localhost> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> <1145338203.12081.22.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <44455619.3040002@sun.com> Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 20:47 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >>Yes, maybe me, and Sara has some cool ideas as well! I think Ben, Jim, >>Tim and Glynn would also be outstanding mentors to help these folks >>start on the right foot, Marketing-wise! >> >>Any body have any ideas for projects to propose? > > > Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure > what's involved ;) > > Off the top of my head, here are some possible projects - > > o Come up with a complete set of marketing materials for OpenSolaris > focused on both the code and the community > - posters, pamplets, CD artwork, business cards, flyers, fan > buttons, t-shirt designs, presentation templates, ... > o Develop a set of flash tours to OpenSolaris, demonstrating > some of the key technologies like DTrace, Zones, SMF, ... > o Develop a set of new web stylesheets for opensolaris.org > o Write a set of documents for how to get involved > o Do a set of developer OpenSolaris interviews or podcasts This is excellent, Glynn. From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Tue Apr 18 12:50:38 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:50:38 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443AA6D5.5080101@Sun.COM> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443A6EB7.5000803@sun.com> <443AA6D5.5080101@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <200604181250.38026.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> On Monday 10 April 2006 11:41 am, Teresa Giacomini wrote: > Nope...but it might be worth checking with Rebecca Hansen. Sorry to be slow to respond, I was on vacation. I'm not planning anything. I'm presenting 2 sessions at Tech Days in Seattle on May 2nd. Not sure about the MySQL conference, but William Franklin would be a good person to check with on that, he's the one responsible for databases within OPG, AFAIK. We did a BOF last year at that conference. It was over by the Tech Mart if I recall correctly. ajd > > Laura Ramsey wrote On 04/10/06 07:41,: > > Ben: > > Thanks for heads up! I'll ping into the corporate events team and get > > more details. > > Would be great to have presence there (even guerilla) > > > > Hey Teresa or Alan: Have you heard anything? > > > > LKR > > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. > >> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and > >> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. > >> > >> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun booth > >> at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or will we > >> need to organize something solo? > >> > >> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL > >> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations > >> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning > >> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent > >> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than at > >> LinuxWorld. > >> > >> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we > >> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. > >> > >> benr. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list > >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com Tue Apr 18 17:59:01 2006 From: Alan.DuBoff at Sun.Com (Alan DuBoff) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:59:01 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <44454991.7060304@cuddletech.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <200604181250.38026.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> <44454991.7060304@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <200604181759.01952.Alan.DuBoff@Sun.Com> On Tuesday 18 April 2006 01:18 pm, Ben Rockwood wrote: > Anyone that wants to stop by and help/hangout for a while is welcome. I might, depends on which night. -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Tue Apr 18 23:41:51 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:41:51 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> Given that it's "the last word in file systems", I'd have to say the second. Patrick Rich Teer wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, patrick finch wrote: > > >>Wrong Answer: Zarquon > > > The first or second coming? :-) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Wed Apr 19 01:30:47 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:30:47 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <44455619.3040002@sun.com> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> <1145338203.12081.22.camel@localhost> <44455619.3040002@sun.com> Message-ID: <1145435447.25279.19.camel@haiiro> Hi All, On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:11 -0700, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure > > what's involved ;) Me too :-) I also like Glynn's list - I think the contents of /usr/demo from Solaris Express get should get fleshed out with this new content whenever it comes along[1]. (is /usr/demo also in other distributions ?) Perhaps also find a way to bundle Brendan's DTrace toolkit in /usr/demo if he's okay with that ? I had started to think that us authoring a DVD that we could post to journalists and reviewers which showed any recorded demos we have would further lower the barrier for them to be able to write about OpenSolaris -- they'd just pop it in their drive, get some popcorn and start to take notes. [ it being a traditional movie-dvd, rather than an os-on-a-disc ] Another solution is to get the various LiveCD distributions to the point where they work seamlessly out of the box, and have an /etc/motd message or splash screen on first login that says something like : # # Welcome to based on OpenSolaris # # for a demo of the technologies in OpenSolaris # Go to Launch -> Sound & Video -> OpenSolaris Demo # or type "/usr/demo/opensolaris-demo" # Doesn't have to be an all-singing, all-dancing media extravaganza - even a script that loads the flash demos in sequence in a browser could be enough ? cheers, tim [1] and if we don't get any takers, I should really start to put some of these demos together myself - doing flash movies isn't that hard... -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 19 05:56:13 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:56:13 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> Message-ID: <4446336D.4070708@sun.com> Okay--so I still need 2 more witty questions! Like: Who's idea was it to open source solaris? Red Hat? Sun's developers Doc Searles All of the above... Hmm, that's not so witty, but now you see why I need help! LOL! LKR patrick finch wrote: >Given that it's "the last word in file systems", I'd have to say the >second. > >Patrick > > >Rich Teer wrote: > > >>On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, patrick finch wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Wrong Answer: Zarquon >>> >>> >>The first or second coming? :-) >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LKR Tim Foster wrote: >Hi All, > >On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:11 -0700, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > >>>Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure >>>what's involved ;) >>> >>> > >Me too :-) > >I also like Glynn's list - I think the contents of /usr/demo from >Solaris Express get should get fleshed out with this new content >whenever it comes along[1]. (is /usr/demo also in other distributions ?) > >Perhaps also find a way to bundle Brendan's DTrace toolkit in /usr/demo >if he's okay with that ? > >I had started to think that us authoring a DVD that we could post to >journalists and reviewers which showed any recorded demos we have would >further lower the barrier for them to be able to write about OpenSolaris >-- they'd just pop it in their drive, get some popcorn and start to take >notes. 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Obviously the best people to actually record the demos are the engineers themselves, as they know the technology the best. So, in a "teach a man to fish and he'll eat forever" frame of mind, I'll spend some time tonight working out how best to record a vnc session and convert to a movie we could put on a DVD. I've recorded vnc before[1], just haven't got as far as converting that to mpeg though... Once we have an easy to install bundle, we can point the OpenSolaris engineering groups at the package, along with perhaps a sample demo, and gather the rest of demos that way: given that hassle of working out how to do it will be out of the way, it wouldn't take people as long to get their demos together. Alternatively, we just record everything ourselves, but that won't scale quite as well, and we'd have to work out how best to showcase each technology.. > Format and packaging. Right now, I don't really care - let's just work out if it's doable first before getting too excited :-) If I have any success, I'll mail more here. Now, in terms of a summer of code participation (says he straying back on-topic), with an emphasis on the "code" here, rather than "summer of multimedia production", maybe we'd like to have someone come up with a better way to demo OpenSolaris that doesn't involve passively watching movies. Given that we'd have now collected all of these demo movies, perhaps we'd like a module that could be bolted into one of the existing live-cd distributions to play our demos as soon as we boot, with an option to "Exit" at any time, in order for the reviewer to explore the software themselves ? Or better yet, a default login that played the movies in the top half of the screen, with a terminal window opened in the bottom half in order for the viewer to play along ? That would be a little more meaty, from a coding point of view... cheers, tim [1] http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/timf/20050204#live_xliff_editor_demo though Dan did a better job a few months later: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dp?entry=a_screencasting_toolchain > Tim Foster wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:11 -0700, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > > > > > Sure, I can mentor someone if needed, although I'm not exactly sure > > > > what's involved ;) > > > > > > > > Me too :-) > > > > I also like Glynn's list - I think the contents of /usr/demo from > > Solaris Express get should get fleshed out with this new content > > whenever it comes along[1]. (is /usr/demo also in other distributions ?) > > > > Perhaps also find a way to bundle Brendan's DTrace toolkit in /usr/demo > > if he's okay with that ? > > > > I had started to think that us authoring a DVD that we could post to > > journalists and reviewers which showed any recorded demos we have would > > further lower the barrier for them to be able to write about OpenSolaris > > -- they'd just pop it in their drive, get some popcorn and start to take > > notes. [ it being a traditional movie-dvd, rather than an os-on-a-disc ] > > > > Another solution is to get the various LiveCD distributions to the point > > where they work seamlessly out of the box, and have an /etc/motd message > > or splash screen on first login that says something like : > > > > # > > # Welcome to based on OpenSolaris > > # > > # for a demo of the technologies in OpenSolaris > > # Go to Launch -> Sound & Video -> OpenSolaris Demo > > # or type "/usr/demo/opensolaris-demo" > > # > > > > Doesn't have to be an all-singing, all-dancing media extravaganza - even > > a script that loads the flash demos in sequence in a browser could be > > enough ? > > > > > > cheers, > > tim > > > > > > [1] and if we don't get any takers, I should really start to put some of > > these demos together myself - doing flash movies isn't that hard... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 19 10:35:55 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:35:55 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Cool clip: SearchOpenSource: Solid OpenSolaris mention! Message-ID: <444674FB.4070401@sun.com> Nice story here w/ good connections between open source dynamic and government opportunity...OpenSolaris community success mentioned toward end. (with minor grammatical errors referring to OpenSolaris as "open solaris platform". Cheers! LKR Open source security in government SearchOpenSource.com Andrew Bardin Williams April 19, 2006 http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1180306,00.html Enterprise-level features, flexibility and cost have always been key factors for organizations that choose open source over proprietary technology. For IT managers in the government sector, however, these benefits often take a back seat to another software characteristic: IT security. Is open source secure enough for the government's IT infrastructure? Gartner analyst John Pescatore says that many open source solutions are actually more secure than closed source solutions and thus may even be a better fit in the government sector. "There is a myth out there that because the bad guys see the code, there are more vulnerabilities," Pescatore said. "But the truth is that the better predictor of robust code is whether security was a top priority during the development cycle or just an afterthought." In his opinion, the security argument against open source is a dead issue. Open source security was a big concern for Dennis Wells, the policy and planning manager for the office of information services for the state of Oregon. Wells was searching for a customer relationship management (CRM) solution for the Department of Human Services (DHS). After relying on spreadsheets for years, Oregon DHS decided that it needed a better system to track the more than one million residents who use the state's services each year. The task of researching CRM solutions fell to Wells. In addition to meeting the department's specific needs, the solution would also have to satisfy the state's strict security requirements. "I wasn't really concerned with open source versus closed source. I decided to just look at all the alternatives," he said. Wells eventually settled on a solution from SugarCRM, an open source application that provided him with a customizable solution that Oregon DHS could tweak to fit its needs. The fact that the code was open was never a security concern. Wells was satisfied that SugarCRM proved that its software was just as robust and as stable as any other solution he evaluated. He was more concerned with being able to customize the CRM application to fit the department's existing business process. After getting approval from IT department for security and business process requirements, Wells downloaded and installed the open source solution for free in less than ten minutes. According to Pescatore, Wells's appraisal of open source security was not unique among government IT managers. With security no longer a concern, purchasing decisions can be based on functionality and price, just like closed source solutions. Protecting intellectual property Alan Kraft, vice president of the federal group for Novell, agrees. He thinks that intellectual property concerns have supplanted security as the battleground between open source and proprietary vendors. "When it comes to the government sector we need to be aware of what is in the best interest of the public," Kraft said. "The fact is that open source, and the community that supports it, may be better suited in government." Kraft points to an ongoing public battle between the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and Microsoft. The state is trying to pass legislation that would have the state adopt an open source document policy by January 2007 in order to better protect the accessibility of its digital documents. The state is arguing that if Microsoft or another closed source software vendor ceased to support older versions of its platforms, thousands of the state's archived documents could be rendered useless. In a world gone crazy over compliance and the preservation of digital documents, losing these files would be disastrous. Novell plans to approach the federal government later this year with a proposal to create a document standard that would always be supported by the open source community. In the meantime, Novell will continue to make its open source software as robust or more robust than closed source for government agencies through certifications like Common Criteria. Novell's Linux platform recently earned EAL 4+, the highest level of any Linux flavor, and the same level as the latest version of Windows Server. Sun's open source operating system, Solaris, has also achieved an EAL 4+ certification. The federal government uses other security testing benchmarks through the National Information Assurance Partnership (NIAP), an organization under the National Security Agency (NSA). NIAP aims to maintain security standards in IT systems used in the federal government sector. But according to Pescatore, few smaller vendors can afford the expensive testing cycle. Typically, these vendors either need to team up with a larger vendor like IBM or Novell or completely forego testing, instead targeting state and local government customers. According to Chris Ratcliffe, director of Solaris marketing, Sun specifically targets federal government customers for its Trusted Extension add-on to Solaris 10. The extension product leverages the flexibility of open source with customizable security features, providing new data labeling and access management functionality. "Trusted Solaris is predominantly deployed in the government sector because it is the only operating system that meets these strict security levels and has the customized protection levels," Ratcliffe said. Security benefits of open source Many developers cite transparency as the main reason open source software can be more robust than proprietary systems. If customers and developers can look at the code, they are more likely to find a bug and create a patch. In a closed source model, customers must rely on the vendors to identify, diagnose and issue a patch, which can be a lengthy process. "Bugs are getting fixed in record time because of open source, so there is now an architecture argument in favor of open source security," said Kraft. More quickly deployed patches mean a shorter period in which a government agency is vulnerable to attack. Government agencies using open source also benefit from a broad user community in the commercial space that is committed to maintaining security. These user communities are always testing the software, developing fixes and sharing patches. OpenSolaris.org, a community of developers using the open Solaris platform, has 11,000 members, only 1,000 of which are Sun employees. When a security flaw is made known, you can bet that thousands of users have an interest in finding a quick solution. Government agencies using the same software platform can take advantage of these resources rather than developing their own patches or relying on vendors. Once a patch is developed, usually the open source vendor agrees to support it and incorporate it into subsequent releases. -- From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 20 11:35:23 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:35:23 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <1145465495.20966.59.camel@sr1-edub-04> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> <1145338203.12081.22.camel@localhost> <44455619.3040002@sun.com> <1145435447.25279.19.camel@haiiro> <44463467.7090002@sun.com> <1145465495.20966.59.camel@sr1-edub-04> Message-ID: <4447D46B.5070803@sun.com> Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project ideas to show Google what we have to offer (many organizations are doing this). Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I put up some content and a basic structure (follow the structure or dump it for a better one :) ... it's just a start) and some placeholders for more projects and ideas. Cut/paste your best ideas up there and we'll see if we can get all this content out of the lists and on the wiki at this point. Jim From rich.teer at rite-group.com Thu Apr 20 15:23:22 2006 From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: <4446336D.4070708@sun.com> References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> <4446336D.4070708@sun.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > Okay--so I still need 2 more witty questions! I can hear the groans already, but how about this one: Q: When is a door not a door? A: When it's ajar. B: When it's a method of fast IPC between two processes on the same machine. C: When it's Jim Morrison. D: All of the above. ;-) -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich From Terri.Molini at Sun.COM Thu Apr 20 15:52:21 2006 From: Terri.Molini at Sun.COM (Terri Molini) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:52:21 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> <4446336D.4070708@sun.com> Message-ID: <444810A5.1070203@sun.com> I like it Rich Teer wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Okay--so I still need 2 more witty questions! >> >> > >I can hear the groans already, but how about this one: > >Q: When is a door not a door? > >A: When it's ajar. >B: When it's a method of fast IPC between two processes on the same machine. >C: When it's Jim Morrison. >D: All of the above. > >;-) > > > -- Happiness has a bearing; it is not just something. Mexican proverb Terri Molini Sun Microsystems, Inc. Global Communications 408/404-4976 office; x6-9968 408/404-4976 fax 408/406-9021 mobile IM: tmolini NetBeans Software Day The third annual NetBeans Software Day is a free event taking place on Monday 15 May 2006 at the Argent Hotel in San Francisco. James Gosling, the father of Java technology, and other Java technology luminaries will be present to discuss the NetBeans software and the future of Java developer tools. There is no charge to attend this event and attendees do not need to be registered for the JavaOne conference. Space is limited. http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/netbeansday.jsp. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Apr 20 18:52:29 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:52:29 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) In-Reply-To: References: <44400C99.2030004@sun.com> <4444BCE9.4050105@holland.sun.com> <4445DBAF.9040606@holland.sun.com> <4446336D.4070708@sun.com> Message-ID: <44483ADD.3080608@sun.com> Awesome! It's in! LKR Rich Teer wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Okay--so I still need 2 more witty questions! >> >> > >I can hear the groans already, but how about this one: > >Q: When is a door not a door? > >A: When it's ajar. >B: When it's a method of fast IPC between two processes on the same machine. >C: When it's Jim Morrison. >D: All of the above. > >;-) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Apr 20 19:07:55 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:07:55 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... Message-ID: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> ...there's a "how to compile/install opensolaris" article in the works anywhere? I have surfed the opensolaris site (did you notice the link to the articles has been "lost" and you can only find it through the site map?) and the articles are either dated, or not quite right. Has anyone heard of a proposal for such an article going on anywhere? LKR From rich.teer at rite-group.com Thu Apr 20 19:10:26 2006 From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... In-Reply-To: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> References: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > ...there's a "how to compile/install opensolaris" article in the works > anywhere? I have surfed the opensolaris site (did you notice the link to the > articles has been "lost" and you can only find it through the site map?) and > the articles are either dated, or not quite right. > > Has anyone heard of a proposal for such an article going on anywhere? I wrote a couple of articles about this; I can't recall their direct locations of the top of my head, but following the links on my home page will take you to them. -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich From stevel at sun.com Thu Apr 20 22:03:52 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:03:52 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... In-Reply-To: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> References: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> Message-ID: <444867B8.8010801@sun.com> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/onnv/install_quickstart is that sufficient? Laura Ramsey wrote: > > ...there's a "how to compile/install opensolaris" article in the works > anywhere? I have surfed the opensolaris site (did you notice the link > to the articles has been "lost" and you can only find it through the > site map?) and the articles are either dated, or not quite right. > > Has anyone heard of a proposal for such an article going on anywhere? > > LKR > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Fri Apr 21 00:16:05 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:16:05 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... In-Reply-To: <444867B8.8010801@sun.com> References: <44483E7B.3070100@sun.com> <444867B8.8010801@sun.com> Message-ID: <444886B5.2090500@holland.sun.com> And I'm working with Teresa Giacomini and Maria Lopez to compile the numerous pieces out there and publish a version of the install guide (but not compiling) with the training DVD project. Patrick Stephen Lau wrote: > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/onnv/install_quickstart > > is that sufficient? > > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >>...there's a "how to compile/install opensolaris" article in the works >>anywhere? I have surfed the opensolaris site (did you notice the link >>to the articles has been "lost" and you can only find it through the >>site map?) and the articles are either dated, or not quite right. >> >>Has anyone heard of a proposal for such an article going on anywhere? >> >>LKR >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 21 09:24:31 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:24:31 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... Message-ID: <190d0018d608.18d608190d00@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Dennis Clarke was working on one. It was posted on Blastwave, I haven't looked at it recently. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Ramsey Date: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:07 pm Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... > > ...there's a "how to compile/install opensolaris" article in the > works > anywhere? I have surfed the opensolaris site (did you notice the > link > to the articles has been "lost" and you can only find it through > the > site map?) and the articles are either dated, or not quite right. > > Has anyone heard of a proposal for such an article going on anywhere? > > LKR > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 21 09:55:02 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:55:02 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] JavaOne Promo: 3 Clever Questions...(and answers?) Message-ID: <195d69196f62.196f62195d69@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> We need to hang on to these questions for our one question surveys that will at some point appear on the site. I love this question Rich. Do you have any more? Sara -------------- next part -------------- Awesome! It's in! LKR Rich Teer wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Okay--so I still need 2 more witty questions! >> >> > >I can hear the groans already, but how about this one: > >Q: When is a door not a door? > >A: When it's ajar. >B: When it's a method of fast IPC between two processes on the same machine. >C: When it's Jim Morrison. >D: All of the above. > >;-) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ opensolaris-mktg mailing list opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Fri Apr 21 12:17:45 2006 From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:17:45 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Translating the OpenSolaris Book from German into English...? In-Reply-To: <443D0182.7080808@sun.com> References: <443D0182.7080808@sun.com> Message-ID: <44492FD9.nailW73CVX95@burner> Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Hi Folks: > I remember hearing/seeing this in a thread somewhere...but can't > remember...So here's the fabulous OpenSolaris book in German... > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3540292365/sr=1-1/qid=1144743716/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0595011-1807032?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books > > > Is there an english version? Can we light up a translation project out > in the content project? AFAIR (from the contract), Springer has the right and the duty to create english versions. We may need to talk with Springer in case there is interest for a translated version that appears soon. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From dclarke at blastwave.org Fri Apr 21 15:57:11 2006 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Hi! Do you happen to know if... In-Reply-To: <190d0018d608.18d608190d00@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> References: <190d0018d608.18d608190d00@mpk-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> Message-ID: <61367.65.95.198.16.1145660231.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > Dennis Clarke was working on one. It was posted on Blastwave, I haven't > looked at it recently. > Sara > I'll try to crack out something updated this weekend. Based on build { whatever is new } dc From stevel at sun.com Sun Apr 23 04:24:28 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:24:28 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Conference In-Reply-To: <443D5033.20305@sun.com> References: <4438CFDE.9070408@cuddletech.com> <443D2A1F.6070002@sun.com> <443D44C8.5020102@cuddletech.com> <443D4E52.7020800@sun.com> <443D5033.20305@sun.com> Message-ID: <444B63EC.9080800@sun.com> Ben, I have about 15 Nexenta livecds leftover from FISL. I know it's not much - but do you want them for the MySQL conference? They were extremely popular at FISL. cheers, steve Stephen Lau wrote: > Hey Laura, > Yes, definitely. Hopefully more than just a couple. :) > If for some reason I don't give out all the Nexenta CDs at FISL next > week, I'll bring those back and Ben can take the remainder to the MySQL > conference. > > cheers, > steve > > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Cool. you're definitely on the list. >> I'll also connect you to MDE directly so they could possibly take you >> up on this offer. >> >> Hey, Stephen: Is it possible to have a couple of the DVDs around / >> available for this? >> >> LKR >> >> >> Ben Rockwood wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the details Laura, >>> >>> I'll definitely take one. I'm requesting vacation for those 3 days >>> with plans to be there. >>> >>> When you get a feel for how much we can ask for at the event I'd be >>> interested to know. I'm hoping that they don't choose just to do the >>> standard plugs. If I had my choice I'd request 2 X4200's and a >>> 3510. Also, having DVD's on hand is going to help drive interest >>> significantly. Being able to plug the systems, the storage, and the >>> OS as a single offering is key at a show like this, and showing that >>> OpenSolaris addresses the "gotta be an open stack, end to end" issue >>> on many folks minds is a good thing. Just being there with a >>> workstation or two will work but not be nearly as effective as >>> demo'ing the actual sorts of systems and solutions these customers >>> will actually desire. >>> >>> I've got a T2000 sitting here, so in the event that we want to demo >>> OpenSolaris on Niagra but can't secure systems, I can bring mine. >>> While its a MySQL show and X4x00 systems are a better play there, >>> these customers will also be interested in the web component, where >>> Niagara can really shine. >>> benr. >>> >>> >>> Laura Ramsey wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Ben! >>>> >>>> We've got our foot in the door with the folks in Sun's Marketing >>>> Development Engineering team that is running this show. >>>> This guy is busier than a 1 arm paper hanger...and he's not been >>>> able to send us a run down of what exactly is happening at our pod. >>>> >>>> BUT-- >>>> He's said we can get a "few" passes...so if there are takers...let >>>> me know and I'll get you in. >>>> I'd recommend that we give away t-shirts, and just be around for the >>>> buzz factor. When we find out what else is going on, we'll figure >>>> out what we can do to take advantage of it. >>>> >>>> So, who would like a pass? >>>> First come, first serve! >>>> >>>> Ben? >>>> Alan? >>>> Jim? >>>> >>>> LKR >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Rockwood wrote: >>>> >>>>> MySQL is holding a conference April 24-27, 2006 in Santa Clara. >>>>> Having a look at the sponsors list, Sun is a Gold sponsor, and >>>>> looking at the exhibits list, Sun has a booth. >>>>> >>>>> Can we get details on whats going to be represented at the Sun >>>>> booth at this event? Will OpenSolaris have a formal presence or >>>>> will we need to organize something solo? >>>>> >>>>> This is a really excellent event for us to get the word out. MySQL >>>>> is driving a large chunk of the market and one of the stipulations >>>>> tends to be "open from end-to-end", which the interpret as meaning >>>>> Linux... we need to change that perception and this is an excellent >>>>> event at which to do that. We'd be far more productive there than >>>>> at LinuxWorld. >>>>> >>>>> If we've got details, we should start planning. If not, perhaps we >>>>> need to start knocking on doors to work out something. >>>>> >>>>> benr. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From stevel at sun.com Mon Apr 24 12:06:58 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:06:58 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] fisl trip report Message-ID: <444D21D2.8010903@sun.com> I've blogged most of the gory details, but wanted to summarise briefly for the 99% of you who don't subscribe to my RSS feed ;-) First, photos: http://grommit.com/gallery/v/stephen/fisl06/ The conference was great. Brazil has a ton of energy behind the open source movement, and OpenSolaris was really really well-received. A lot of the Linux guys (Ubuntu & Slackware specifically) were really friendly and dropped by numerous times. The community seems younger there (in terms of exposure to Linux), so is pretty willing to try out new things. I had a lot of people go home and boot the Nexenta CDs, or install the SXCR DVDs and come back with questions, or comments. If you want to read details, see my blog (whacked.net), but I'll list some key observations, and things I think we could do for future participation that would help even more. 1) More Solaris engineers. I got absolutely swamped with people wanting demos, or just to talk. The best way to connect with people is one on one, but that means inevitably there is anywhere from 3-5 people standing behind that one person feeling left out and walking away. 2) The Nexenta livecds went like hotcakes. People loved the idea of a Ubuntu/Debian based OpenSolaris distro. We quickly made friends with the Ubuntu-BR (Brazil Ubuntu user group) guys, and they gave out a lot of Nexenta livecds and referred people over to our area frequently. 3) If we have the budget, we should produce Nexenta install cds as well as livecds. A lot of people expressed interest but didn't have the bandwidth to download an ISO. 4) The idea of setting the Sun area up as a rest area, rather than a formal booth was brilliant. We had tables, chairs, free coffee - and it was just more relaxed with a lot of people freely going in and out and getting drawn to the demos. I think it helped to connect with people in a much more casual atmosphere than a formal booth. 5) Besides Google (who was mainly there to recruit), we were the only large corporation there which was surprising. No Intel, no IBM, no Linux distributions. Strange. 6) If we can get enough Solaris engineers (even just 2), a proper InstallFest would be great. I had a bunch of people take the DVDs home and install on their laptops that night and come back the next day to show it off or to get help. 7) The BrandZ talk/demo went great. The room was packed, every seat was taken and there were probably 20-30 people standing in the back. BrandZ was one of the most talked about projects, people were really incredulous when they saw it running. And when they saw you could DTrace a Linux app, they were really impressed. I'm sure there are other things that I'm forgetting. I'll follow-up if I recall anything else over the next day or two. Anyway.. the conference was awesome, I hope to go again in the future :) cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 05:42:30 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:42:30 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: [osol-discuss] got $$ to burn-- what machine should i buy for opensolaris and linux?] Message-ID: <444E1936.5010203@sun.com> Hi Patrick! Love this approach! Can't wait to see that the community chooses for you! LKR -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Patrick Subject: [osol-discuss] got $$ to burn-- what machine should i buy for opensolaris and linux? Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Size: 5939 URL: From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 09:20:06 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:20:06 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com Message-ID: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> We have the opportunity to run banner ads on the sun.com site for the anniversary of OpenSolaris (June 14) through the end of July. You can see an example of an ad at http://www.sun.com/servicessolutions/ for Sun Tech Days. You'll notice that they aren't your standard rotating banners. They are a static image (if we want one - ??) and static text with a link. What would you like our ad to say? We need a headline and and blurb and a call to action. We've only done one banner ad in the past, you can see that on Ben's blog on Cuddletech at http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/. We have until next week to throw ideas around. Then we can finalize on one (or two - if there are two different ones that we really like, we can swap them out) by the week after. Brainstorm. Throw anything out there. Headline: OpenSolaris Blurb: What difference does a year make? Call to Action: Find out about the OpenSolaris Community Headline: More than 12,000 OpenSolaris members Blurb: More than a 1,000 people per month have become part of this growing community Call To Action: Join the OpenSolaris Community Thanks, Sara From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 10:14:53 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:14:53 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> Message-ID: <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> Hey All, On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 11:20 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > We have the opportunity to run banner ads on the sun.com site for the > anniversary of OpenSolaris (June 14) through the end of July. Cool - here's a few off the top of my head, some good, some bad - but anyway see what you think... Headline: OpenSolaris, more than just marketing Blurb: More than x people, y downloads, z discussions - isn't it time you joined in ? Call: Visit http://www.opensolaris.org for more Headline: It's about the code, stupid Blurb: A real operating system that's real open Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org Headline:Dtrace, Zones, SMF, ZFS, BrandZ and we're only getting started. Blurb: How many one year olds do you know that have achieved this much ? Want to help develop the most advanced OS on the planet ? Call: join us at http://www.opensolaris.org Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you name ? Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to explore OpenSolaris. Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org (yes this one's inflammatory, and yes I've mentioned it before here, but ... ) Headline: OpenSolaris Blurb: All the stability of BSD, all the features of Linux, more innovation than anything else out there. Call: Join the revolution at http://www.opensolaris.org cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 10:28:10 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:28:10 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <444E5C2A.3000606@sun.com> Tim, I love them! I'll have to get more than 2 banner ads. When we have a few, we'll have to rank them when we're done... Sara Tim Foster wrote: > Hey All, > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 11:20 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > >> We have the opportunity to run banner ads on the sun.com site for the >> anniversary of OpenSolaris (June 14) through the end of July. >> > > Cool - here's a few off the top of my head, some good, some bad - but > anyway see what you think... > > > > Headline: OpenSolaris, more than just marketing > Blurb: More than x people, y downloads, z discussions - isn't it time > you joined in ? > Call: Visit http://www.opensolaris.org for more > > > Headline: It's about the code, stupid > Blurb: A real operating system that's real open > Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org > > > Headline:Dtrace, Zones, SMF, ZFS, BrandZ and we're only getting started. > Blurb: How many one year olds do you know that have achieved this much ? > Want to help develop the most advanced OS on the planet ? > Call: join us at http://www.opensolaris.org > > > Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you > name ? > Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to > explore OpenSolaris. > Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org > > > (yes this one's inflammatory, and yes I've mentioned it before here, > but ... ) > > Headline: OpenSolaris > Blurb: All the stability of BSD, all the features of Linux, more > innovation than anything else out there. > Call: Join the revolution at http://www.opensolaris.org > > > cheers, > tim > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Great visual possibilities...) > >Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you >name ? >Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to >explore OpenSolaris. >Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org > > +1 (We're up to 5? What's the new one?) > >(yes this one's inflammatory, and yes I've mentioned it before here, >but ... ) > >Headline: OpenSolaris >Blurb: All the stability of BSD, all the features of Linux, more >innovation than anything else out there. >Call: Join the revolution at http://www.opensolaris.org > > +1--but you're right. I think are in the minority. > > cheers, > tim > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Probably easier if I list 'em ? :-) Solaris Express, Schillix, Belenix, Nextenta, marTux_0.1 (I'm guessing you missed the sparc-based one marTux : http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~mbeinsx/marTux/ ) cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 10:53:14 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:53:14 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups Message-ID: <444E620A.80600@sun.com> We're coming up on the 1 year anniversary for opensolaris.org...and so much has GROWN since June 14th 2005! We have so many members, and projects thriving, and user groups in fabulous locations around the globe. The OpenSolaris marketing team is starting to plan a few things to celebrate this great milestone--yes, t-shirts! But we also were thinking about how we can create a worldwide celebration--Hopefully Some of the user groups may be planning a special meeting--and the idea of doing a webcast has also been suggested. So please, let us know what you might be considering-- Would a webcast be cool? Who would you like to see present on a webcast? What technical topic is of most interest? Will you be holding a celebration meeting? How many attendees would you expect at your meeting? Looking forward to getting more of our planning underway! Cheers, LKR From stevel at sun.com Tue Apr 25 10:51:38 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:51:38 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <444E5E85.6030209@sun.com> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> <444E5E85.6030209@sun.com> Message-ID: <444E61AA.2000808@sun.com> Laura Ramsey wrote: >>Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you >>name ? >>Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to >>explore OpenSolaris. >>Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org >> >> > +1 (We're up to 5? What's the new one?) SXCR, Schilix, Belenix, Nexenta, Martux. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 10:53:57 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:53:57 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <1145987039.13125.67.camel@haiiro> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> <444E5E85.6030209@sun.com> <1145987039.13125.67.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <444E6235.2080308@sun.com> martux! Cool! LKR Tim Foster wrote: >On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 13:38 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > >>>Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you >>>name ? >>>Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to >>>explore OpenSolaris. >>>Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org >>> >>> >>> >>+1 (We're up to 5? What's the new one?) >> >> > >Which one don't you know about ? Probably easier if I list 'em ? :-) > >Solaris Express, Schillix, Belenix, Nextenta, marTux_0.1 >(I'm guessing you missed the sparc-based one marTux : >http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~mbeinsx/marTux/ ) > > cheers, > tim > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dclarke at blastwave.org Tue Apr 25 12:50:48 2006 From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <444E6235.2080308@sun.com> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> <444E5E85.6030209@sun.com> <1145987039.13125.67.camel@haiiro> <444E6235.2080308@sun.com> Message-ID: <61625.69.158.186.170.1145994648.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org> > > martux! Cool! > LKR > http://www.blastwave.org/articles/BLS-0048/images/ Just as soon as I get a spare moment or two I will get these images in a properly written article container. Dennis From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Tue Apr 25 13:46:48 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:46:48 -0500 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> Message-ID: <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> If we don't want to clog up this list with all of the MANY ideas that are going to stream in, we can move it over to the marketing list (cc'd here) - opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org. And any ideas are welcome. I volunteer to compile the ideas that come in and we can vote on them. Things like changes to the web site, content additions or updates, blogs for the one year mark, bring a friend to the party (virtual party), ISOs, web casts, pod casts, guides, whatever you think would be a good way to commemorate our one year anniversary. Tim and Glynn Foster put forward a bunch of ideas for the Google Summer of Code. I think we should do them anyway. Sara Karyn Ritter wrote: > Sorry for the virtual cross-post... > > The 1-year anniversary celebration is all about the great strides and > contributions the community has made over the past year. Start sending > out your ideas about what things the community can do to help > celebrate being open for a year. It's an opportunity for you all to > stand up and talk about all of the cool things that have happened over > the past year. > > Thanks, > > Karyn > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris > User Groups > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:53:14 -0400 > From: Laura Ramsey > To: ug-discuss at opensolaris.org, OpenSolaris Marketing > > > > We're coming up on the 1 year anniversary for opensolaris.org...and so > much has GROWN since June 14th 2005! We have so many members, and > projects thriving, and user groups in fabulous locations around the > globe. > > The OpenSolaris marketing team is starting to plan a few things to > celebrate this great milestone--yes, t-shirts! But we also were > thinking about how we can create a worldwide celebration--Hopefully Some > of the user groups may be planning a special meeting--and the idea of > doing a webcast has also been suggested. > So please, let us know what you might be considering-- > > Would a webcast be cool? > Who would you like to see present on a webcast? What technical topic is > of most interest? > Will you be holding a celebration meeting? > How many attendees would you expect at your meeting? > > Looking forward to getting more of our planning underway! > > Cheers, > LKR > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org From Rick.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Apr 26 07:06:10 2006 From: Rick.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Rick Ramsey) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:06:10 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444E620A.80600@sun.com> References: <444E620A.80600@sun.com> Message-ID: <444F7E52.600@sun.com> Hi Laura, BigAdmin would like to celebrate with you. I believe we are planning a notice in the newsletter, but there's a few more things we could do on the site itself if you could put together some OpenSolaris content of interest to administrators. For instance.... - Instructions for installing OpenSolaris on SPARC, Intel, and Mac - A list of the different distributions and where to get them - How to run OpenSolaris securely - etc We focus on helping admins adopt, deploy, and maintain their products, so if you have content that fits those guidelines, we'd love to publish it. You can use that content to drive more administrators to your site. One caveat: we've been pretty busy lately, so we'd need the content right away to be ready in June. Lemme know, Rick Laura Ramsey wrote: > > We're coming up on the 1 year anniversary for opensolaris.org...and so > much has GROWN since June 14th 2005! We have so many members, and > projects thriving, and user groups in fabulous locations around the > globe. > > The OpenSolaris marketing team is starting to plan a few things to > celebrate this great milestone--yes, t-shirts! But we also were > thinking about how we can create a worldwide celebration--Hopefully > Some of the user groups may be planning a special meeting--and the > idea of doing a webcast has also been suggested. > So please, let us know what you might be considering-- > > Would a webcast be cool? > Who would you like to see present on a webcast? What technical topic > is of most interest? > Will you be holding a celebration meeting? > How many attendees would you expect at your meeting? > > Looking forward to getting more of our planning underway! > > Cheers, > LKR > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From darkjoker at gmail.com Tue Apr 25 22:19:02 2006 From: darkjoker at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Marambio_Cat=E1n?=) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:19:02 -0300 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> Message-ID: <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sara Dornsife wrote: > If we don't want to clog up this list with all of the MANY ideas that > are going to stream in, we can move it over to the marketing list (cc'd > here) - opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org. > > And any ideas are welcome. I volunteer to compile the ideas that come in > and we can vote on them. Things like changes to the web site, content > additions or updates, blogs for the one year mark, bring a friend to the > party (virtual party), ISOs, web casts, pod casts, guides, whatever you > think would be a good way to commemorate our one year anniversary. > > Tim and Glynn Foster put forward a bunch of ideas for the Google Summer > of Code. I think we should do them anyway. > > Sara > > > > Karyn Ritter wrote: >> Sorry for the virtual cross-post... >> >> The 1-year anniversary celebration is all about the great strides and >> contributions the community has made over the past year. Start sending >> out your ideas about what things the community can do to help >> celebrate being open for a year. It's an opportunity for you all to >> stand up and talk about all of the cool things that have happened over >> the past year. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Karyn >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris >> User Groups >> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:53:14 -0400 >> From: Laura Ramsey >> To: ug-discuss at opensolaris.org, OpenSolaris Marketing >> >> >> >> We're coming up on the 1 year anniversary for opensolaris.org...and so >> much has GROWN since June 14th 2005! We have so many members, and >> projects thriving, and user groups in fabulous locations around the >> globe. >> >> The OpenSolaris marketing team is starting to plan a few things to >> celebrate this great milestone--yes, t-shirts! But we also were >> thinking about how we can create a worldwide celebration--Hopefully Some >> of the user groups may be planning a special meeting--and the idea of >> doing a webcast has also been suggested. >> So please, let us know what you might be considering-- >> >> Would a webcast be cool? >> Who would you like to see present on a webcast? What technical topic is >> of most interest? >> Will you be holding a celebration meeting? >> How many attendees would you expect at your meeting? >> >> Looking forward to getting more of our planning underway! >> >> Cheers, >> LKR >> I think we should do what we do best, give away software, I know what I'm about to say is a bit impossible because of the time constraints, cost and others. Do we still have that band of brothers DVD? I was thinking about giving it away, shipping it even, everywhere, for free, yes, ubuntu like to everyone that visits the www.opensolaris.org web site. We could even include in the DVD the "happy birthday song" and change the cover of the DVD to something more suitable for the ocation :) ohh, and we need a birthday banner for the site :P nacho -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (SunOS) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFETwLGvOFsGS3So/wRAqGyAKCN7TuJBuCIzfgWZxN96mMagNjK2QCeLNs7 Y/r6kGKMbuU08thwwWZIk2k= =Fzeh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From erast at gnusolaris.org Tue Apr 25 22:32:37 2006 From: erast at gnusolaris.org (Erast Benson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:32:37 -0700 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 02:19 -0300, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote: > I think we should do what we do best, give away software, I know what > I'm about to say is a bit impossible because of the time constraints, > cost and others. Do we still have that band of brothers DVD? I was > thinking about giving it away, shipping it even, everywhere, for free, > yes, ubuntu like to everyone that visits the www.opensolaris.org web > site. We could even include in the DVD the "happy birthday song" and > change the cover of the DVD to something more suitable for the ocation :) > > ohh, and we need a birthday banner for the site :P +7 :-) That is the best idea to promote OpenSolaris so far I heard on this forum. It works really really well for promoting Ubuntu and I don't see why it will not work for us. -- Erast From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Wed Apr 26 12:36:00 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:36:00 -0500 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> I like the idea a lot. We don't have the "Band of Brothers" ISO yet though. We do have what Stephen Lau has been handing out which is based on the Solaris Express Community Edition. Would that work? Any ideas on how many we might go through in a given month? We can make the ISO and DVD artwork available on line so that they can be produced anywhere by anyone who would like to. Is this proposal in addition to the other suggestions, or in place of? Laura had suggested a worldwide user group effort. Are you thinking that that isn't a good idea? Any of the others? Sara Erast Benson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 02:19 -0300, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote: > >> I think we should do what we do best, give away software, I know what >> I'm about to say is a bit impossible because of the time constraints, >> cost and others. Do we still have that band of brothers DVD? I was >> thinking about giving it away, shipping it even, everywhere, for free, >> yes, ubuntu like to everyone that visits the www.opensolaris.org web >> site. We could even include in the DVD the "happy birthday song" and >> change the cover of the DVD to something more suitable for the ocation :) >> >> ohh, and we need a birthday banner for the site :P >> > > +7 :-) > > That is the best idea to promote OpenSolaris so far I heard on this > forum. It works really really well for promoting Ubuntu and I don't see > why it will not work for us. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erast at gnusolaris.org Wed Apr 26 08:55:22 2006 From: erast at gnusolaris.org (Erast Benson) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:55:22 -0700 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> Message-ID: <1146066922.5322.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Oh, another thing I'd like to add. Ubuntu community very concerned about whether to ship their ISOs as DVD or as CD media. They claim (and I think it is very true) that a lot of their potential users still do not have DVD drive and will not have for a long time. I think the requirement would be to ship only distributions which fits on a single CD media, otherwise we will automatically loose some percentage(may be significant) of audience. Erast On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 14:36 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > I like the idea a lot. We don't have the "Band of Brothers" ISO yet > though. We do have what Stephen Lau has been handing out which is > based on the Solaris Express Community Edition. Would that work? > > Any ideas on how many we might go through in a given month? We can > make the ISO and DVD artwork available on line so that they can be > produced anywhere by anyone who would like to. > > Is this proposal in addition to the other suggestions, or in place of? > Laura had suggested a worldwide user group effort. Are you thinking > that that isn't a good idea? Any of the others? > Sara > > > Erast Benson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 02:19 -0300, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote: > > > > > I think we should do what we do best, give away software, I know what > > > I'm about to say is a bit impossible because of the time constraints, > > > cost and others. Do we still have that band of brothers DVD? I was > > > thinking about giving it away, shipping it even, everywhere, for free, > > > yes, ubuntu like to everyone that visits the www.opensolaris.org web > > > site. We could even include in the DVD the "happy birthday song" and > > > change the cover of the DVD to something more suitable for the ocation :) > > > > > > ohh, and we need a birthday banner for the site :P > > > > > > > +7 :-) > > > > That is the best idea to promote OpenSolaris so far I heard on this > > forum. It works really really well for promoting Ubuntu and I don't see > > why it will not work for us. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org -- Erast From darkjoker at gmail.com Wed Apr 26 16:49:14 2006 From: darkjoker at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Marambio_Cat=E1n?=) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:49:14 -0300 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> Message-ID: On 4/26/06, Sara Dornsife wrote: > I like the idea a lot. We don't have the "Band of Brothers" ISO yet though. > We do have what Stephen Lau has been handing out which is based on the > Solaris Express Community Edition. Would that work? > > Any ideas on how many we might go through in a given month? We can make the > ISO and DVD artwork available on line so that they can be produced anywhere > by anyone who would like to. > > Is this proposal in addition to the other suggestions, or in place of? > Laura had suggested a worldwide user group effort. Are you thinking that > that isn't a good idea? Any of the others? > Sara my idea included giving the dvds away only during the birthday,but we could use that as a pilot program to test user demand, my main concern was the cost of the whole thing but since noone other than me brought it up, i guess it's not an issue. so i guess this was an addition to other proposals I also thought about some adds we could put up, just a hint about the ideas i had opensolaris is like a baby for this community, so i was thinking about an adoption day, would you guys like to adopt opensolaris? :) opensolaris is turning 1 and it is a big deal nacho From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 11:33:50 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:33:50 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation In-Reply-To: <1145465495.20966.59.camel@sr1-edub-04> References: <4443EA31.4080005@sun.com> <4443F736.8020307@sun.com> <31572228-4302-4860-8CC0-1096E11D346E@sun.com> <4444371F.5020703@sun.com> <1145338203.12081.22.camel@localhost> <44455619.3040002@sun.com> <1145435447.25279.19.camel@haiiro> <44463467.7090002@sun.com> <1145465495.20966.59.camel@sr1-edub-04> Message-ID: <44510E8E.9010207@sun.com> Hi ... I put some of the marketing ideas for the SoC on the wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code Can someone from the marketing community update it and make sure it's what you want to propose? Needs to be technical and focused around writing code, of course. OpenSolaris has been accepted, but we don't know how many in individual projects we'll be able to have. Names of mentor contacts need to be attached to each project, too. Thanks, Jim From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 14:25:55 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:25:55 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <445136E3.5070402@sun.com> Tim Foster wrote: > Hey All, > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 11:20 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > >>We have the opportunity to run banner ads on the sun.com site for the >>anniversary of OpenSolaris (June 14) through the end of July. > > > Cool - here's a few off the top of my head, some good, some bad - but > anyway see what you think... > > Headline: OpenSolaris, more than just marketing > Blurb: More than x people, y downloads, z discussions - isn't it time > you joined in ? > Call: Visit http://www.opensolaris.org for more Yah, true, but we leave ourselves open to the attack of trying to hide that it may be marketing (what a competitor may say), which it isn't. In fact, it's extremely far from marketing. This one may be confusing. > Headline: It's about the code, stupid > Blurb: A real operating system that's real open > Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org I like this idea a lot, but without the "stupid" part. :) It is all about the code, which leads to the conversation, which leads to diversity in a growing community, which leads to more code. How about: OpenSolaris: It's all about the code. or OpenSolaris: It's all about the community. I don't care. I can justify both. To me they are tied together. I *don't* like "It's all about the conversation" though because that's too fluffy. We used that a while back. But how about this: OpenSolaris: Everyone's talking. x million discussion views, x lists, x messages, x total/unique visitors ... something like that. Also, I don't like "real" operating system bit because it implies others aren't real. > > Headline:Dtrace, Zones, SMF, ZFS, BrandZ and we're only getting started. > Blurb: How many one year olds do you know that have achieved this much ? > Want to help develop the most advanced OS on the planet ? > Call: join us at http://www.opensolaris.org I love this one. Perhaps make the list very long but as it goes on the type gets smaller and fades away to imply that its just keep on going and going and going .... Or just make the list a screen background or something. > Headline: OpenSolaris - 5 distributions in 12 months. How many can you > name ? > Blurb: In less than a year, there's already lots of different ways to > explore OpenSolaris. > Call: Find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org Not bad. > > (yes this one's inflammatory, and yes I've mentioned it before here, > but ... ) > > Headline: OpenSolaris > Blurb: All the stability of BSD, all the features of Linux, more > innovation than anything else out there. > Call: Join the revolution at http://www.opensolaris.org I like "join the revolution" .... but perhaps we can work on the other parts of this one :) Jim From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 14:27:30 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:27:30 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> Message-ID: <44513742.8020802@sun.com> Sara Dornsife wrote: > We have the opportunity to run banner ads on the sun.com site for the > anniversary of OpenSolaris (June 14) through the end of July. You can > see an example of an ad at http://www.sun.com/servicessolutions/ for Sun > Tech Days. You'll notice that they aren't your standard rotating > banners. They are a static image (if we want one - ??) and static text > with a link. > > What would you like our ad to say? We need a headline and and blurb and > a call to action. We've only done one banner ad in the past, you can see > that on Ben's blog on Cuddletech at http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/. > > We have until next week to throw ideas around. Then we can finalize on > one (or two - if there are two different ones that we really like, we > can swap them out) by the week after. Brainstorm. Throw anything out there. > > Headline: OpenSolaris > Blurb: What difference does a year make? > Call to Action: Find out about the OpenSolaris Community http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/> How about "What a difference a year makes." Ordinary, I know. The original doesn't read cleanly to me (if it's just me, fine), though. > Headline: More than 12,000 OpenSolaris members > Blurb: More than a 1,000 people per month have become part of this > growing community > Call To Action: Join the OpenSolaris Community http://www.opensolaris.org/os/> I like the idea of mentioning the members here. Also, we currently have 50 code putbacks, so perhaps we can mention contributions (but not the number)? Just general contributions: code, documentation, bugs, etc. How about: They said it couldn't be done. But we did it. More than 1,000 ... This is hard. Jim From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 14:33:52 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:33:52 -0700 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> Message-ID: <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community members who have achieved something in their area? * code contributions * documentation contributions * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source * something with the distributions * mail list activity -- most posts * best ideas * best flames (ok, probably not) * most fixes proposed * most bugs found * most blogs * We could come up with some categories and have people vote (private vote). Also, I like the idea of a contest for something. Stephen/Glynn were talking about photo/artwork contests on the website list. Great ideas. Jim From Terri.Molini at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 15:23:17 2006 From: Terri.Molini at Sun.COM (Terri Molini) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:23:17 -0700 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> Message-ID: <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> I like these ideas! -terri Jim Grisanzio wrote On 04/27/06 14:33,: > Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community members > who have achieved something in their area? > > * code contributions > * documentation contributions > * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source > * something with the distributions > * mail list activity -- most posts > * best ideas > * best flames (ok, probably not) > * most fixes proposed > * most bugs found > * most blogs > * > > We could come up with some categories and have people vote (private > vote). > > Also, I like the idea of a contest for something. Stephen/Glynn were > talking about photo/artwork contests on the website list. Great ideas. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org -- Terri Molini Sun Microsystems, Inc. Global Communications 408/404-4976 office 408/406-9021 mobile AIM: tmolini NetBeans Software Day The third annual NetBeans Software Day is a free event taking place on Monday 15 May 2006 at the Argent Hotel in San Francisco. James Gosling, the father of Java technology, and other Java technology luminaries will be present to discuss the NetBeans software and the future of Java developer tools. There is no charge to attend this event and attendees do not need to be registered for the JavaOne conference. Space is limited. http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/netbeansday.jsp. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 15:58:38 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:58:38 -0700 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <44514C9E.90708@sun.com> Terri Molini wrote: > I like these ideas! > -terri Thanks, Terri. I'd love for PR to participate along with everyone else on this. Are reporters/analysts still pinging you guys for OpenSolaris stuff? Are they aware that the one year anniversary for the project is coming up? Jim > Jim Grisanzio wrote On 04/27/06 14:33,: > >> Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community members >> who have achieved something in their area? >> >> * code contributions >> * documentation contributions >> * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source >> * something with the distributions >> * mail list activity -- most posts >> * best ideas >> * best flames (ok, probably not) >> * most fixes proposed >> * most bugs found >> * most blogs >> * >> >> We could come up with some categories and have people vote (private >> vote). >> >> Also, I like the idea of a contest for something. Stephen/Glynn were >> talking about photo/artwork contests on the website list. Great ideas. >> >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From benr at cuddletech.com Thu Apr 27 16:12:34 2006 From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:12:34 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Users Conf Report Message-ID: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> Hello All, I just finished 2 days at the MySQL Users Conference 2006 in Santa Clara. It was a 3 day show, with the expo floor being open Tues and Wed of this week. Sun had a good size booth (20' wide) which was about the common size for most of the booths there. Positioning on the floor was pretty good, both en route to the coffee/cookies as well as being kitty-corner from the MySQL booth. We also happened to be right across from the Red Hat Booth and got a lot more traffic than they did. During the show the booth was manned by myself and a Sun employee, who rotated on a 4 hour basis. The booth was split into two areas, one for the scheduled demos of DTrace/MySQL and MySQL on T2000, and the other for me to show OpenSolaris. I brought with me my personal dev workstation (self built Athlon64 Dual Core), my X2100, and my Try-and-Buy T2000. Additionally I requested (as seen on this list) 2 X4100's and a StorEdge 3510/3511, which I intended to use for Sun Cluster 3.1 demos, but in the end the most Kevin was able to get approved was 2 X4200's which I was glad to take. I was hoping to do lots of feature and technology demos, but most people just wanted to chat. Likely they were burned out from the talks. Things stayed pretty general and here and there I snuck a quick demo on users, but by and large it was a verbal exchange. Primary interest was in the servers themselves, so around the middle of Tuesday I pulled the covers off the T2000, X4200, and X2100 and lined them up on the front desk/table thing so that passer-byers would be lured in, and it worked very well. Lots of people stopped by to admire the systems and talk about Solaris. The SAS drives really excited people and as usual those who hadn't heard much about Niagara in the past were WOW'ed by the chip. The fact that the T2000 they were looking at was my personal Try-and-Buy made a good lead-in to getting a try and buy themselves. Sadly the booth didn't have a network connection so showing off OpenGrok, the bug database, or the website were out. I was also hoping to have SugerCRM on my SIDEkick suite to lure people but I thought I could download SugerCRM from the show which wasn't possible. In the swag department I had about 20 tshirts (white ringers), 20 Nexenta LiveCD's (thanks to Steven Lau) and 20 OpenSolaris DVD's (thanks to Teresa). Because most of the interest was in servers and Sun in general the swag lasted the whole show. The number of attendees at the conf was much lower than people expected. I don't have firm numbers, but every single vendor on the floor was surprised at how dead the place was. Several pre-arranged attempts to get people into the expo floor, such as serving ice cream or brownies on the far end of the expo floor, as well as a Tuesday night reception in there, were the times we saw the peak traffic. In some cases we had as many as 8-10 people gathered around, but those were isolated incidents, in contrast to LinuxWorld were it was common place all day long. The upshot was that we were _very_ well recieved. A lot of MySQL AB employees, including the founder, "Monty", came over to chat for quite a lot of time, and I was amazed at how much they all respected Sun, Solaris, and liked the new server line. In fact, I learned that MySQL's life actually began on SunOS before Linux came along and development moved there. If resources were available I'd love to send MySQL AB (addressed to Monty) an X4100, T2000, and Ultra 20, all fully stocked, for them to add to their server room. I say the Ultra 20 because I learned that they are interested in standardizing the workstations that all the MySQL AB developers (about 100) around the world are developing on but the primary concern is on noise. The Ultra20's are pretty quiet but in a noisy expo hall its hard to show how quiet they are. If they liked the Ultra 20 it wouldn't be a bad PR point that MySQL AB did all its development on Sun workstations. If nothing else, the servers would be very nice gesture, but thats a lot of cash to put into good will, so do with that information what you wish. So, visibility at the show was good. People liked what Sun is doing and where things are headed and were interested in learning more. The most popular question at the show was about the recent CEO switch. The members of the press that were there Tuesday morning swung by the booth pretty early on in the day. Another interesting note was that several of the other vendors enjoyed seeing OpenSolaris here as well as at the other shows (the kilt burns OpenSolaris into their brains). If anyone has further questions or comments about the show, please let me know. Some pictures of the show are available in my blog and in the O'Reilly conference Flikr gallery. benr. From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 16:24:41 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:24:41 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <999B3F55-0F7D-44BC-889D-1B1ED491D1F8@mac.com> References: <444E4C36.6040003@sun.com> <1145985293.13125.58.camel@haiiro> <445136E3.5070402@sun.com> <999B3F55-0F7D-44BC-889D-1B1ED491D1F8@mac.com> Message-ID: <445152B9.70404@sun.com> Moazam Raja wrote: > "OpenSolaris: It's all about the code." sounds the best to me. Rolls > off the tongue. :) > > -Moazam > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > >> How about: >> >> OpenSolaris: It's all about the code. Here are some more (with Bonnie): OpenSolaris: Code, Community, Collaboration Discover /your/ opportunity Code, Community, Collaboration Discover /your/ opportunity at OpenSolaris OpenSolaris: It's all about the code Discover /your/ opportunity OpenSolaris: You decide. Code, Community, Collaboration Jim & Bonnie From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 16:39:40 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:39:40 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated Trademark FAQ Message-ID: <4451563C.5040002@sun.com> I have rewritten the TM FAQ for OpenSolaris.org (you can see the current one at http://opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/trademark_faq/) with a lot of input from Sun legal and from Sun branding. If you can or are interested, please review and send me any comments or questions. *NOTES: * 1. *Trademark link at the bottom of the page should go straight to http://www.sun.com/policies/trademarks/, not to an intermediary page on opensolaris.org. Unless we choose to create our own that includes all aspects of the OpenSolaris brand and calls out specifically how it is different. I like this suggestion, let me know what you think. * 2. *We have to state somewhere that OpenSolaris is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, but we don't have to say that, "our lawyer told us we had to say" line. My recommendation is that we not apologize for having a TM'd name, just try to figure out how best to get access and usage of it for the community.* *Is OpenSolaris a Sun trademark?* Yes. OpenSolaris is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc. You can find information regarding the proper usage of this and other Sun trademarks on the [trademark policies page](http://www.sun.com/policies/trademarks/). *How can I use the OpenSolaris trademark?* You can use the OpenSolaris trademark in accordance with Sun's [trademark policies](http://www.sun.com/policies/trademarks/), which means that you can not incorporate a Sun trademark into your own product or project name or use it graphically. But you can use it in text where appropriate if the statement is correct.. The fair use clause in trademark law allows you to call out that your product is created from the OpenSolaris source code if that statement is true. You can not use the OpenSolaris wordmark (the graphic treatment used on the trademark), but you can use the trademark (OpenSolaris) textually (just the words). For example, you can not call your product Sara's OpenSolaris, and you can not create a Sara's OpenSolaris logo using the OpenSolaris wordmark, but you can say that Sara's operating system is based on OpenSolaris as long as the "based on OpenSolaris" part is written in text and is not incorporated into the logo for Sara's operating system. Refer to Sun's trademark policies for more details on how to use the trademark appropriately. *What are the OpenSolaris fan buttons and banners?* There are buttons and banners that have been created that use the OpenSolaris trademark. These are available at and can be used on websites or on blogs (or anywhere online) to show that you are a member of the OpenSolaris community. There is no registration required to use them, but there are Usage Guidelines and a lightweight license . *Can I modify the OpenSolaris Fan Buttons and Banners?* *No. You have to use the buttons as they are, but you can send comments or recommendations about them to the community marketing discussion list at opensolaris-mktg AT opensolaris DOT org. * *Can I use the OpenSolaris name for my derived work or distribution?* No, you cannot use the OpenSolaris trademark in your product name for derivative works or distributions you create from the OpenSolaris source code. The fair use principle in trademark law, as discussed above, allows you to use the trademark textually where accurate, but not as part of the name. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darkjoker at gmail.com Thu Apr 27 16:46:55 2006 From: darkjoker at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Marambio_Cat=E1n?=) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:46:55 -0300 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> Message-ID: On 4/27/06, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community members > who have achieved something in their area? > > * code contributions > * documentation contributions > * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source > * something with the distributions > * mail list activity -- most posts > * best ideas > * best flames (ok, probably not) > * most fixes proposed > * most bugs found > * most blogs > * > +1 from me, but we have to figure out a way to submit votes asap, the birthday is right around the corner nacho From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Apr 27 18:04:05 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:04:05 -0400 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Users Conf Report In-Reply-To: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> References: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <44516A05.9090203@sun.com> Daniel ad Brian: Interesting insights for the team from the MySQL conference...Ben Rockwood (from OpenSolaris community) makes some interesting observations--also learned that that there may be a connection/opportunity for Ultra 20s to be placed there. cheers, LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > Hello All, > > I just finished 2 days at the MySQL Users Conference 2006 in Santa > Clara. It was a 3 day show, with the expo floor being open Tues and > Wed of this week. Sun had a good size booth (20' wide) which was > about the common size for most of the booths there. Positioning on > the floor was pretty good, both en route to the coffee/cookies as well > as being kitty-corner from the MySQL booth. We also happened to be > right across from the Red Hat Booth and got a lot more traffic than > they did. > > During the show the booth was manned by myself and a Sun employee, who > rotated on a 4 hour basis. The booth was split into two areas, one > for the scheduled demos of DTrace/MySQL and MySQL on T2000, and the > other for me to show OpenSolaris. I brought with me my personal dev > workstation (self built Athlon64 Dual Core), my X2100, and my > Try-and-Buy T2000. Additionally I requested (as seen on this list) 2 > X4100's and a StorEdge 3510/3511, which I intended to use for Sun > Cluster 3.1 demos, but in the end the most Kevin was able to get > approved was 2 X4200's which I was glad to take. > I was hoping to do lots of feature and technology demos, but most > people just wanted to chat. Likely they were burned out from the > talks. Things stayed pretty general and here and there I snuck a > quick demo on users, but by and large it was a verbal exchange. > Primary interest was in the servers themselves, so around the middle > of Tuesday I pulled the covers off the T2000, X4200, and X2100 and > lined them up on the front desk/table thing so that passer-byers would > be lured in, and it worked very well. Lots of people stopped by to > admire the systems and talk about Solaris. The SAS drives really > excited people and as usual those who hadn't heard much about Niagara > in the past were WOW'ed by the chip. The fact that the T2000 they > were looking at was my personal Try-and-Buy made a good lead-in to > getting a try and buy themselves. > Sadly the booth didn't have a network connection so showing off > OpenGrok, the bug database, or the website were out. I was also > hoping to have SugerCRM on my SIDEkick suite to lure people but I > thought I could download SugerCRM from the show which wasn't possible. > > In the swag department I had about 20 tshirts (white ringers), 20 > Nexenta LiveCD's (thanks to Steven Lau) and 20 OpenSolaris DVD's > (thanks to Teresa). Because most of the interest was in servers and > Sun in general the swag lasted the whole show. > The number of attendees at the conf was much lower than people > expected. I don't have firm numbers, but every single vendor on the > floor was surprised at how dead the place was. Several pre-arranged > attempts to get people into the expo floor, such as serving ice cream > or brownies on the far end of the expo floor, as well as a Tuesday > night reception in there, were the times we saw the peak traffic. In > some cases we had as many as 8-10 people gathered around, but those > were isolated incidents, in contrast to LinuxWorld were it was common > place all day long. > > The upshot was that we were _very_ well recieved. A lot of MySQL AB > employees, including the founder, "Monty", came over to chat for quite > a lot of time, and I was amazed at how much they all respected Sun, > Solaris, and liked the new server line. In fact, I learned that > MySQL's life actually began on SunOS before Linux came along and > development moved there. > If resources were available I'd love to send MySQL AB (addressed to > Monty) an X4100, T2000, and Ultra 20, all fully stocked, for them to > add to their server room. I say the Ultra 20 because I learned that > they are interested in standardizing the workstations that all the > MySQL AB developers (about 100) around the world are developing on but > the primary concern is on noise. The Ultra20's are pretty quiet but > in a noisy expo hall its hard to show how quiet they are. If they > liked the Ultra 20 it wouldn't be a bad PR point that MySQL AB did all > its development on Sun workstations. If nothing else, the servers > would be very nice gesture, but thats a lot of cash to put into good > will, so do with that information what you wish. > > So, visibility at the show was good. People liked what Sun is doing > and where things are headed and were interested in learning more. The > most popular question at the show was about the recent CEO switch. > The members of the press that were there Tuesday morning swung by the > booth pretty early on in the day. Another interesting note was that > several of the other vendors enjoyed seeing OpenSolaris here as well > as at the other shows (the kilt burns OpenSolaris into their brains). > > If anyone has further questions or comments about the show, please > let me know. Some pictures of the show are available in my blog and > in the O'Reilly conference Flikr gallery. > > benr. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From spp at unixsa.net Thu Apr 27 21:02:49 2006 From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:02:49 PDT Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <445152B9.70404@sun.com> Message-ID: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's nice alliteration in there. -spp PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? This message posted from opensolaris.org From moazam at unixville.com Thu Apr 27 21:10:44 2006 From: moazam at unixville.com (Moazam Raja) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:10:44 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: I like the "OpenSolaris: It's all about the code" because it's memorable and easy to embed into a tag line. How many people will walk away and *remember* "Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution"? It sounds...too corporate. Almost like a Sigma heading. :) -Moazam PS> I'm not a marketer, so what do I know. :) On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Potter wrote: > I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local > LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many > other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around > Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why > there's so many C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't > fit), but there's nice alliteration in there. > > -spp > PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide > presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 06:41:19 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:41:19 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated metrics... Message-ID: <44521B7F.7000405@holland.sun.com> All, there are updated metrics on the community here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ regards Patrick From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:28:28 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:28:28 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> Thanks for the input Stephen. We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. By the way, there is a presentation template available at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so that he can use it for his presentations). Sara Stephen Potter wrote: > I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's nice alliteration in there. > > -spp > PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:43:33 2006 From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:43:33 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> Message-ID: <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> Hi Sara, When I click on the template, I get a file that has title and ending slides and a template for the slides in between - that all contain the artwork, colors, etc. That's what I would expect for a template - are you seeing something with completely blank pages? The template I clicked on is "presentation template" on the mktgdownloads page. Bonnie Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:28,: > Thanks for the input Stephen. > We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. > > By the way, there is a presentation template available at > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that > includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I > know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that > included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. > > Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so > that he can use it for his presentations). > Sara > > > Stephen Potter wrote: > >>I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's nice alliteration in there. >> >>-spp >>PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? >> >> >>This message posted from opensolaris.org >>_______________________________________________ >>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:48:31 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:48:31 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <44522B3F.3030104@sun.com> I actually get a blank text page. Nothing on it. Nada. I was hoping for, and saw, what you are describing before posting it. What version of openoffice (or StarOffice) are you using? Sara Bonnie Corwin wrote: > Hi Sara, > > When I click on the template, I get a file that has title and ending > slides and a template for the slides in between - that all contain the > artwork, colors, etc. That's what I would expect for a template - are > you seeing something with completely blank pages? > > The template I clicked on is "presentation template" on the > mktgdownloads page. > > Bonnie > > Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:28,: > >> Thanks for the input Stephen. >> We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. >> >> By the way, there is a presentation template available at >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that >> includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I >> know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >> included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. >> >> Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so >> that he can use it for his presentations). >> Sara >> >> >> Stephen Potter wrote: >> >> >>> I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. 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URL: From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:52:18 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:52:18 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> Message-ID: <1146235938.5951.1.camel@haiiro> Hey there, On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 09:28 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > By the way, there is a presentation template available at > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that > includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I > know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that > included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. Yep, that's a link to the one we have on the user-group presentations page, http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/opensolaris-presentation-template.otp > Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so > that he can use it for his presentations). (I'm actually not sure who created it, but they did a good job!) It looks okay to me ? (I see Chandan's art, etc. on it) Let me know if you're having trouble with it, I can probably convert it to some other format - I assumed everyone would have access to OpenOffice cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:56:29 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:56:29 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <44522D1D.9030908@sun.com> Moazam Raja wrote: > I like the "OpenSolaris: It's all about the code" because it's > memorable and easy to embed into a tag line. Our tagline has been "Innovation Happens Everywhere". What do you think of that? > > How many people will walk away and *remember* "Community, > Collaboration, Code, Contribution"? It sounds...too corporate. Almost > like a Sigma heading. :) :). OpenSolaris is a 4-letter word....code. > > -Moazam > > PS> I'm not a marketer, so what do I know. :) Plenty. How would we attract you? > > > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Potter wrote: > >> I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local >> LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other >> things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, >> Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many >> C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's >> nice alliteration in there. >> >> -spp >> PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide >> presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? >> >> >> This message posted from opensolaris.org >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 07:58:30 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:58:30 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> Message-ID: <44522D96.1060109@sun.com> Stephen Potter wrote: > > >> Thanks for the input Stephen. >> We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. >> >> By the way, there is a presentation template available at >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that >> includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I >> know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >> included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. >> > > I can download it without a problem. If that is approved for use by the > community, I would love to use it. Much better than the hacks I was > coming up with using the buttons. > Absolutely for your use. You should also take a look at the presentations that already been posted to see if there is stuff you can use. May save you some time. > -spp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I >> know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >> included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. >> > > Yep, that's a link to the one we have on the user-group presentations > page, > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/opensolaris-presentation-template.otp > > I'll try to fix what we have on the marketing site. I guess it's just me :). >> Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so >> that he can use it for his presentations). >> > > (I'm actually not sure who created it, but they did a good job!) > > It looks okay to me ? (I see Chandan's art, etc. on it) Let me know if > you're having trouble with it, I can probably convert it to some other > format - I assumed everyone would have access to OpenOffice > > cheers, > tim > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Much better than the hacks I was coming up with using the buttons. -spp -- Stephen Potter Director, LOPSA Executive Board "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace, two useless men are a law firm, and three are a congress." - John Adams From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 08:03:42 2006 From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:03:42 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44522B3F.3030104@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> <44522B3F.3030104@sun.com> Message-ID: <44522ECE.80502@Sun.COM> Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:48,: > I actually get a blank text page. Nothing on it. Nada. I was hoping for, > and saw, what you are describing before posting it. > > What version of openoffice (or StarOffice) are you using? I've got soffice8 > Sara > > > Bonnie Corwin wrote: > >>Hi Sara, >> >>When I click on the template, I get a file that has title and ending >>slides and a template for the slides in between - that all contain the >>artwork, colors, etc. That's what I would expect for a template - are >>you seeing something with completely blank pages? >> >>The template I clicked on is "presentation template" on the >>mktgdownloads page. >> >>Bonnie >> >>Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:28,: >> >> >>>Thanks for the input Stephen. >>>We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. >>> >>>By the way, there is a presentation template available at >>>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that >>>includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I >>>know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >>>included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. >>> >>>Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so >>>that he can use it for his presentations). >>>Sara >>> >>> >>>Stephen Potter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's nice alliteration in there. >>>> >>>>-spp >>>>PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? >>>> >>>> >>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>> >>> >> >> >> > From spp at unixsa.net Fri Apr 28 08:08:36 2006 From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44522D96.1060109@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> <44522D96.1060109@sun.com> Message-ID: <59806.159.53.110.141.1146236916.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> > Absolutely for your use. You should also take a look at the > presentations that already been posted to see if there is stuff you can > use. May save you some time. Yep, have been looking them over quite closely. Lots of awesome resources out there for us evangelists. ;-) -spp -- Stephen Potter Director, LOPSA Executive Board "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace, two useless men are a law firm, and three are a congress." - John Adams From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 08:07:19 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:07:19 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <59806.159.53.110.141.1146236916.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> <44522D96.1060109@sun.com> <59806.159.53.110.141.1146236916.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> Message-ID: <44522FA7.4030304@sun.com> Stephen Potter wrote: > > >> Absolutely for your use. You should also take a look at the >> presentations that already been posted to see if there is stuff you can >> use. May save you some time. >> > > Yep, have been looking them over quite closely. Lots of awesome resources > out there for us evangelists. ;-) > Hopefully you'll post what you are creating as well when you're done. > -spp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spp at unixsa.net Fri Apr 28 08:12:31 2006 From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44522ECE.80502@Sun.COM> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> <44522B3F.3030104@sun.com> <44522ECE.80502@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <46612.159.53.78.144.1146237151.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> > Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:48,: >> I actually get a blank text page. Nothing on it. Nada. I was hoping for, >> and saw, what you are describing before posting it. >> >> What version of openoffice (or StarOffice) are you using? > > I've got soffice8 For reference, it opens fine in OO.o 2.0. -spp -- Stephen Potter Director, LOPSA Executive Board "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace, two useless men are a law firm, and three are a congress." - John Adams From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 08:15:49 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:15:49 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <46612.159.53.78.144.1146237151.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <44522A15.9060604@Sun.COM> <44522B3F.3030104@sun.com> <44522ECE.80502@Sun.COM> <46612.159.53.78.144.1146237151.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> Message-ID: <445231A5.1070704@sun.com> Stephen Potter wrote: > > >> Sara Dornsife wrote On 04/28/06 08:48,: >> >>> I actually get a blank text page. Nothing on it. Nada. I was hoping for, >>> and saw, what you are describing before posting it. >>> >>> What version of openoffice (or StarOffice) are you using? >>> >> I've got soffice8 >> > > For reference, it opens fine in OO.o 2.0. > Thanks. I'm running StarOffice 7. So 8 and oo.o 2.0 work. Sara > -spp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 08:44:00 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:44:00 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <1146235938.5951.1.camel@haiiro> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <1146235938.5951.1.camel@haiiro> Message-ID: <44523840.4010004@sun.com> Tim Foster wrote: > Hey there, > > On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 09:28 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: > >>By the way, there is a presentation template available at >>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that >>includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I >>know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >>included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. > > > Yep, that's a link to the one we have on the user-group presentations > page, > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/opensolaris-presentation-template.otp > > >>Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so >>that he can use it for his presentations). > > > (I'm actually not sure who created it, but they did a good job!) Chandan created it. :) I needed to have my own set of slides and I really don't like Sun's corporate slide template for use on OpenSolaris. So, I mocked up what I thought I wanted and he make it look beautiful. :) (You don't want me mocking-up, believe me ...) Jim > It looks okay to me ? (I see Chandan's art, etc. on it) Let me know if > you're having trouble with it, I can probably convert it to some other > format - I assumed everyone would have access to OpenOffice > > cheers, > tim From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 08:46:33 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:46:33 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44523840.4010004@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <1146235938.5951.1.camel@haiiro> <44523840.4010004@sun.com> Message-ID: <445238D9.6090606@sun.com> Thanks once again to Chandan then! Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Tim Foster wrote: > >> Hey there, >> >> On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 09:28 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote: >>> By the way, there is a presentation template available at >>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ >>> that includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is >>> blank....???? I know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool >>> template that included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris >>> colors. >> >> >> Yep, that's a link to the one we have on the user-group presentations >> page, >> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/os-presentations/opensolaris-presentation-template.otp >> >> >> >>> Who created that? Can you repost or resend to me? (And to Stephen so >>> that he can use it for his presentations). >> >> >> (I'm actually not sure who created it, but they did a good job!) > > > > > Chandan created it. :) I needed to have my own set of slides and I > really don't like Sun's corporate slide template for use on > OpenSolaris. So, I mocked up what I thought I wanted and he make it > look beautiful. :) (You don't want me mocking-up, believe me ...) > > Jim > > > > >> It looks okay to me ? (I see Chandan's art, etc. on it) Let me know if >> you're having trouble with it, I can probably convert it to some other >> format - I assumed everyone would have access to OpenOffice >> >> cheers, >> tim From Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 09:30:24 2006 From: Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM (Torrey McMahon) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:30:24 -0400 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <44524320.6080306@sun.com> Shouldn't we all have "1 Year Anniversary" t-shirts by now? :) Terri Molini wrote: > I like these ideas! > -terri > > Jim Grisanzio wrote On 04/27/06 14:33,: >> Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community members >> who have achieved something in their area? >> >> * code contributions >> * documentation contributions >> * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source >> * something with the distributions >> * mail list activity -- most posts >> * best ideas >> * best flames (ok, probably not) >> * most fixes proposed >> * most bugs found >> * most blogs >> * >> >> We could come up with some categories and have people vote (private >> vote). >> >> Also, I like the idea of a contest for something. Stephen/Glynn were >> talking about photo/artwork contests on the website list. Great ideas. >> From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 11:03:47 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:03:47 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Users Conf Report In-Reply-To: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> References: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <44525903.8070001@sun.com> Thanks for this Ben. Excellent report (as usual). And if "the kilt burns OpenSolaris into their brains" perhaps when we get a mascot it can be wearing a kilt :) Jim Ben Rockwood wrote: > Hello All, > > I just finished 2 days at the MySQL Users Conference 2006 in Santa > Clara. It was a 3 day show, with the expo floor being open Tues and Wed > of this week. Sun had a good size booth (20' wide) which was about the > common size for most of the booths there. Positioning on the floor was > pretty good, both en route to the coffee/cookies as well as being > kitty-corner from the MySQL booth. We also happened to be right across > from the Red Hat Booth and got a lot more traffic than they did. > > During the show the booth was manned by myself and a Sun employee, who > rotated on a 4 hour basis. The booth was split into two areas, one for > the scheduled demos of DTrace/MySQL and MySQL on T2000, and the other > for me to show OpenSolaris. I brought with me my personal dev > workstation (self built Athlon64 Dual Core), my X2100, and my > Try-and-Buy T2000. Additionally I requested (as seen on this list) 2 > X4100's and a StorEdge 3510/3511, which I intended to use for Sun > Cluster 3.1 demos, but in the end the most Kevin was able to get > approved was 2 X4200's which I was glad to take. > I was hoping to do lots of feature and technology demos, but most > people just wanted to chat. Likely they were burned out from the talks. > Things stayed pretty general and here and there I snuck a quick demo on > users, but by and large it was a verbal exchange. Primary interest was > in the servers themselves, so around the middle of Tuesday I pulled the > covers off the T2000, X4200, and X2100 and lined them up on the front > desk/table thing so that passer-byers would be lured in, and it worked > very well. Lots of people stopped by to admire the systems and talk > about Solaris. The SAS drives really excited people and as usual those > who hadn't heard much about Niagara in the past were WOW'ed by the > chip. The fact that the T2000 they were looking at was my personal > Try-and-Buy made a good lead-in to getting a try and buy themselves. > Sadly the booth didn't have a network connection so showing off > OpenGrok, the bug database, or the website were out. I was also hoping > to have SugerCRM on my SIDEkick suite to lure people but I thought I > could download SugerCRM from the show which wasn't possible. > > In the swag department I had about 20 tshirts (white ringers), 20 > Nexenta LiveCD's (thanks to Steven Lau) and 20 OpenSolaris DVD's (thanks > to Teresa). Because most of the interest was in servers and Sun in > general the swag lasted the whole show. > The number of attendees at the conf was much lower than people > expected. I don't have firm numbers, but every single vendor on the > floor was surprised at how dead the place was. Several pre-arranged > attempts to get people into the expo floor, such as serving ice cream or > brownies on the far end of the expo floor, as well as a Tuesday night > reception in there, were the times we saw the peak traffic. In some > cases we had as many as 8-10 people gathered around, but those were > isolated incidents, in contrast to LinuxWorld were it was common place > all day long. > > The upshot was that we were _very_ well recieved. A lot of MySQL AB > employees, including the founder, "Monty", came over to chat for quite a > lot of time, and I was amazed at how much they all respected Sun, > Solaris, and liked the new server line. In fact, I learned that MySQL's > life actually began on SunOS before Linux came along and development > moved there. > If resources were available I'd love to send MySQL AB (addressed to > Monty) an X4100, T2000, and Ultra 20, all fully stocked, for them to add > to their server room. I say the Ultra 20 because I learned that they > are interested in standardizing the workstations that all the MySQL AB > developers (about 100) around the world are developing on but the > primary concern is on noise. The Ultra20's are pretty quiet but in a > noisy expo hall its hard to show how quiet they are. If they liked the > Ultra 20 it wouldn't be a bad PR point that MySQL AB did all its > development on Sun workstations. If nothing else, the servers would be > very nice gesture, but thats a lot of cash to put into good will, so do > with that information what you wish. > > So, visibility at the show was good. People liked what Sun is doing > and where things are headed and were interested in learning more. The > most popular question at the show was about the recent CEO switch. The > members of the press that were there Tuesday morning swung by the booth > pretty early on in the day. Another interesting note was that several > of the other vendors enjoyed seeing OpenSolaris here as well as at the > other shows (the kilt burns OpenSolaris into their brains). > > If anyone has further questions or comments about the show, please let > me know. Some pictures of the show are available in my blog and in the > O'Reilly conference Flikr gallery. > > benr. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 12:00:26 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:00:26 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> This is my suggestion for the banner ad. Let me know what you think. I don't think I was clear in my last mail that I was serious about it. OpenSolaris is a 4-letter word C-O-D-E Find out more Sara Moazam Raja wrote: > I like the "OpenSolaris: It's all about the code" because it's > memorable and easy to embed into a tag line. > > How many people will walk away and *remember* "Community, > Collaboration, Code, Contribution"? It sounds...too corporate. Almost > like a Sigma heading. :) > > -Moazam > > PS> I'm not a marketer, so what do I know. :) > > > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Potter wrote: > >> I like it. In fact, I'm writing a presentation to give to a local >> LUG this weekend (wish I'd had more time to plan this.. to many other >> things), and I'm basing the "What is Open Solaris" around Community, >> Collaboration, Code, Contribution. I'm not sure why there's so many >> C's (I dropped Consolidations because it didn't fit), but there's >> nice alliteration in there. >> >> -spp >> PS: Is it kosher to use the web buttons as a background for a slide >> presentation, as long as the trademark statement is included? >> >> >> This message posted from opensolaris.org >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 12:07:42 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:07:42 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> Message-ID: <445267FE.4020709@sun.com> Sara Dornsife wrote: > This is my suggestion for the banner ad. Let me know what you think. I > don't think I was clear in my last mail that I was serious about it. > > OpenSolaris is a 4-letter word > C-O-D-E > Find out more Absolutely love it. Jim From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 12:26:49 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:26:49 -0500 Subject: [osol-discuss] [osol-mktg] Upcoming Anniversary Activities for OpenSolaris User Groups In-Reply-To: <44524320.6080306@sun.com> References: <444E83DD.3060803@sun.com> <444E8AB8.9060807@sun.com> <444F02C6.9060806@gmail.com> <1146029557.4175.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <444FCBA0.3000108@sun.com> <445138C0.7070205@sun.com> <44514455.90704@Sun.COM> <44524320.6080306@sun.com> Message-ID: <44526C79.6040601@sun.com> Yes. We all should. But, we obviously can't buy every one of our 13,000 registered members a shirt and ship it to them. Although that would be nice, it's pretty cost prohibitive. If we made a special commemorative t-shirt and put it on the Sun open source cafepress store (or anywhere else that might be convenient), then people could purchase it at cost. What do you think of that? A commemorative t-shirt was part of the user group idea as well. So user groups would get a package containing gifts for all of their members. That's still on the table. Sara Torrey McMahon wrote: > Shouldn't we all have "1 Year Anniversary" t-shirts by now? :) > > Terri Molini wrote: >> I like these ideas! >> -terri >> >> Jim Grisanzio wrote On 04/27/06 14:33,: >>> Perhaps we could consider giving out some awards to community >>> members who have achieved something in their area? >>> >>> * code contributions >>> * documentation contributions >>> * most innovative work with OpenSolaris source >>> * something with the distributions >>> * mail list activity -- most posts >>> * best ideas >>> * best flames (ok, probably not) >>> * most fixes proposed >>> * most bugs found >>> * most blogs >>> * >>> >>> We could come up with some categories and have people vote (private >>> vote). >>> >>> Also, I like the idea of a contest for something. Stephen/Glynn were >>> talking about photo/artwork contests on the website list. Great ideas. >>> > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From moazam at unixville.com Fri Apr 28 13:43:01 2006 From: moazam at unixville.com (Moazam Raja) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:43:01 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> Message-ID: <51800415-AF54-4E8A-A325-501F0BC57CF1@unixville.com> Sara, that sounds perfect. -Moazam On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Sara Dornsife wrote: > This is my suggestion for the banner ad. Let me know what you > think. I don't think I was clear in my last mail that I was serious > about it. > > OpenSolaris is a 4-letter word > C-O-D-E > Find out more > > Sara From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 14:48:42 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:48:42 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452268C.6060307@sun.com> <30137.159.53.46.144.1146236074.squirrel@www.unixsa.net> Message-ID: <44528DBA.9010804@sun.com> Since Stephen is probably not the only one out there representing OpenSolaris in some capacity, we have posted an editable OpenSolaris "business card" at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ for your use if you'd like it. Insert your own personal information. There is a .sxd version there. Let me know if you need a different format. Further discussion can move over to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org. Sara Stephen Potter wrote: > > >> Thanks for the input Stephen. >> We seem to be leaning in this direction on the banners. >> >> By the way, there is a presentation template available at >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/ that >> includes the buttons. It's an openoffice file, that is blank....???? I >> know I saw it before it was posted and it was a cool template that >> included Chandan's artwork and was in the OpenSolaris colors. >> > > I can download it without a problem. If that is approved for use by the > community, I would love to use it. Much better than the hacks I was > coming up with using the buttons. > > -spp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Fri Apr 28 14:51:14 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:51:14 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <51800415-AF54-4E8A-A325-501F0BC57CF1@unixville.com> References: <25632157.1146197002832.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <4452664A.7010301@sun.com> <51800415-AF54-4E8A-A325-501F0BC57CF1@unixville.com> Message-ID: <44528E52.7010004@sun.com> Great. Unless anyone else (and since some of the active members of this list are in other time zones) has any other comments. We'll use this as one of our banners. Sara Moazam Raja wrote: > Sara, that sounds perfect. > > -Moazam > > On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Sara Dornsife wrote: > >> This is my suggestion for the banner ad. Let me know what you think. >> I don't think I was clear in my last mail that I was serious about it. >> >> OpenSolaris is a 4-letter word >> C-O-D-E >> Find out more >> >> Sara > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From spp at unixsa.net Sun Apr 30 20:50:47 2006 From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:50:47 PDT Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: <44522FA7.4030304@sun.com> Message-ID: <13493656.1146455477534.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> http://lopsa.org/node/297 I've attached the presentation I presented to my blog at LOPSA. This message posted from opensolaris.org From spp at unixsa.net Sun Apr 30 20:54:42 2006 From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:54:42 PDT Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: Banner Ads on Sun.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <15590263.1146455712185.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> I don't/didn't expect anyone to remember it all; it wasn't meant as a tag line. It was just a nice bit of alliteration to focus a presentation around. ;-) As a tag line, "It's all about the code" is better, but it leaves out the community, which I think is the most important thing about OSol. I also like "Innovation Happens Everywhere". -spp This message posted from opensolaris.org From Daniel.Kuo at Sun.COM Sat Apr 29 10:55:49 2006 From: Daniel.Kuo at Sun.COM (Daniel Kuo) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:55:49 -0700 Subject: [osol-mktg] MySQL Users Conf Report In-Reply-To: <44516A05.9090203@sun.com> References: <44514FE2.1060604@cuddletech.com> <44516A05.9090203@sun.com> Message-ID: <4453A8A5.60800@sun.com> Laura, Thank you for forwarding a very interesting report. I am forwarding this to David Killian (liason to OSS for Niagara team) and Paul Durzan (my boss). David is the key individual to "facilitate" synergistic sponsorship. daniel Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Daniel ad Brian: > Interesting insights for the team from the MySQL conference...Ben > Rockwood (from OpenSolaris community) makes some interesting > observations--also learned that that there may be a > connection/opportunity for Ultra 20s to be placed there. > cheers, > LKR > > > Ben Rockwood wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I just finished 2 days at the MySQL Users Conference 2006 in Santa >> Clara. It was a 3 day show, with the expo floor being open Tues and >> Wed of this week. Sun had a good size booth (20' wide) which was >> about the common size for most of the booths there. Positioning on >> the floor was pretty good, both en route to the coffee/cookies as >> well as being kitty-corner from the MySQL booth. We also happened to >> be right across from the Red Hat Booth and got a lot more traffic >> than they did. >> >> During the show the booth was manned by myself and a Sun employee, >> who rotated on a 4 hour basis. The booth was split into two areas, >> one for the scheduled demos of DTrace/MySQL and MySQL on T2000, and >> the other for me to show OpenSolaris. I brought with me my personal >> dev workstation (self built Athlon64 Dual Core), my X2100, and my >> Try-and-Buy T2000. Additionally I requested (as seen on this list) 2 >> X4100's and a StorEdge 3510/3511, which I intended to use for Sun >> Cluster 3.1 demos, but in the end the most Kevin was able to get >> approved was 2 X4200's which I was glad to take. >> I was hoping to do lots of feature and technology demos, but most >> people just wanted to chat. Likely they were burned out from the >> talks. Things stayed pretty general and here and there I snuck a >> quick demo on users, but by and large it was a verbal exchange. >> Primary interest was in the servers themselves, so around the middle >> of Tuesday I pulled the covers off the T2000, X4200, and X2100 and >> lined them up on the front desk/table thing so that passer-byers >> would be lured in, and it worked very well. Lots of people stopped >> by to admire the systems and talk about Solaris. The SAS drives >> really excited people and as usual those who hadn't heard much about >> Niagara in the past were WOW'ed by the chip. The fact that the T2000 >> they were looking at was my personal Try-and-Buy made a good lead-in >> to getting a try and buy themselves. >> Sadly the booth didn't have a network connection so showing off >> OpenGrok, the bug database, or the website were out. I was also >> hoping to have SugerCRM on my SIDEkick suite to lure people but I >> thought I could download SugerCRM from the show which wasn't possible. >> >> In the swag department I had about 20 tshirts (white ringers), 20 >> Nexenta LiveCD's (thanks to Steven Lau) and 20 OpenSolaris DVD's >> (thanks to Teresa). Because most of the interest was in servers and >> Sun in general the swag lasted the whole show. >> The number of attendees at the conf was much lower than people >> expected. I don't have firm numbers, but every single vendor on the >> floor was surprised at how dead the place was. Several pre-arranged >> attempts to get people into the expo floor, such as serving ice cream >> or brownies on the far end of the expo floor, as well as a Tuesday >> night reception in there, were the times we saw the peak traffic. In >> some cases we had as many as 8-10 people gathered around, but those >> were isolated incidents, in contrast to LinuxWorld were it was common >> place all day long. >> >> The upshot was that we were _very_ well recieved. A lot of MySQL AB >> employees, including the founder, "Monty", came over to chat for >> quite a lot of time, and I was amazed at how much they all respected >> Sun, Solaris, and liked the new server line. In fact, I learned that >> MySQL's life actually began on SunOS before Linux came along and >> development moved there. >> If resources were available I'd love to send MySQL AB (addressed to >> Monty) an X4100, T2000, and Ultra 20, all fully stocked, for them to >> add to their server room. I say the Ultra 20 because I learned that >> they are interested in standardizing the workstations that all the >> MySQL AB developers (about 100) around the world are developing on >> but the primary concern is on noise. The Ultra20's are pretty quiet >> but in a noisy expo hall its hard to show how quiet they are. If >> they liked the Ultra 20 it wouldn't be a bad PR point that MySQL AB >> did all its development on Sun workstations. If nothing else, the >> servers would be very nice gesture, but thats a lot of cash to put >> into good will, so do with that information what you wish. >> >> So, visibility at the show was good. People liked what Sun is doing >> and where things are headed and were interested in learning more. >> The most popular question at the show was about the recent CEO >> switch. The members of the press that were there Tuesday morning >> swung by the booth pretty early on in the day. Another interesting >> note was that several of the other vendors enjoyed seeing OpenSolaris >> here as well as at the other shows (the kilt burns OpenSolaris into >> their brains). >> >> If anyone has further questions or comments about the show, please >> let me know. Some pictures of the show are available in my blog and >> in the O'Reilly conference Flikr gallery. >> >> benr. >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org > > > >