[osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

Laura Ramsey Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM
Mon Apr 10 15:42:21 PDT 2006


Hey Sara:
can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I was 
surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates indicate 
Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has moved 
away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to maneuver 
here.)

LKR


Ben Rockwood wrote:

> I knew this argument would arise again at some point.  Its still, 
> clearly, an issue for community members.  Stephen mentioned my 
> solution, the "go it alone" approach.
>
> Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which 
> memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, etc)  
> that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the fan 
> buttons.  It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally 
> acceptable.
>
>
> For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both created 
> using Trebuchet MS 45.  All they do is crop off the tops of the L and 
> I.  This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm not 
> sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have 
> created them.  Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 myself, 
> which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that "kindergarten 
> modern" look of Trebuchet.  See my drop sheet: 
> http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png
>
> With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this discussion 
> when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I 
> have refrained from creating any new ones.
>
> benr.
>
> PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal while 
> looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff.  Its strange too look back 
> and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've 
> accomplished.  http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png
>
>
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, 
>> not intended to be a response to logo usage.
>> The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can 
>> be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The 
>> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in 
>> open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their 
>> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty 
>> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of 
>> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to 
>> do.
>> The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a 
>> proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan 
>> buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for 
>> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - 
>> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else 
>> you are looking for?
>> Sara
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com>
>> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm
>> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Hi Sara,
>>>
>>> This seems... wrong, somehow.
>>> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow 
>>> people to use the logo freely?  It seems to me that if we keep this 
>>> policy, then it will encourage people to either:
>>>
>>> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun 
>>> sic'ing our lawyers on them
>>> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did 
>>> here last year:
>>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273
>>>
>>> It seems like both cases are undesirable.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> steve
>>>     
>>
>
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