[osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

[Sara Dornsife]

My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. 

The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to do. 

The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else you are looking for?
Sara



----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com>
Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

> Hi Sara,
> 
> This seems... wrong, somehow.
> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow 
> people 
> to use the logo freely?  It seems to me that if we keep this 
> policy, 
> then it will encourage people to either:
> 
> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun 
> sic'ing 
> our lawyers on them
> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did 
> here 
> last year:
> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273
> 
> It seems like both cases are undesirable.
> 
> cheers,
> steve
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> > The OpenSolaris logo is generated using a Sun font. Which means 
> that Sun owns the rights to the font as part of our brand. So, no 
> is the most accurate answer. As Patrick pointed out, Sun has 
> trademarked the OpenSolaris name, so there are rules and 
> guidelines associated with it's use. This is similar to other open 
> source communities which own and regulate the use of their 
> trademarks. 
> > 
> > Do the fan buttons help you in any way? 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ 
> > 
> > What is it you would like to do? I'll work with you to see what 
> we can do to help you to achieve that within the existing 
> boundaries. 
> > Sara
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: patrick finch <Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM>
> > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:54 am
> > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
> > 
> > 
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>The OpenSolaris logo is derived from the same graphical style as the
> >>current Solaris logo - as such I am not sure if it is a font or a
> >>graphic (which happens to have the letters a,e,o,i,l,n,p,r,s).  The
> >>OpenSolaris logo is a Sun trademark which may be used by Sun 
> partners>>(per https://brand.sun.com/), but this isn't especially
> >>community-friendly.  I will check to see if the logo is based on a
> >>particular font and report back if there is any positive news.
> >>
> >>In the meantime, I believe that Sara has been looking into how this
> >>might be used by the community beyond standard fair use (current 
> terms>>are here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/trademark/, although 
> it 
> >>looks a
> >>little out of date to me).
> >>
> >>Sara, any news to report?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>regards
> >>
> >>Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Stephen Lau wrote:
> >>
> >>>Moazam Raja wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm not sure where else to ask this, so here goes,
> >>>>
> >>>>What font does the OpenSolaris logo use? Is the font available 
> >>
> >>under any CDDL style license (i.e., can I use it for my own site?)
> >>
> >>>>Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>-M
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Probably best to follow-up on the opensolaris-mktg (marketing) 
> >>
> >>list, 
> >>
> >>>which I've cc'd here.  I don't know if the specific logo is up, 
> >>
> >>but it's 
> >>
> >>>definitely a part of the CD cover art in the downloadables section.
> >>>
> >>>I don't know what license it is under though.
> >>>
> >>>cheers,
> >>>steve
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
> 
> 
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> stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net
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