[osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

[Stephen Lau]

We've certainly moved away from it internally for all our templates.  I 
remember seeing an email saying that we weren't going to be using it 
anymore.  That'd be great if we could use it freely externally.

cheers,
steve

Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Hey Sara:
> can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I was 
> surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates indicate 
> Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has moved 
> away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to maneuver 
> here.)
> 
> LKR
> 
> 
> Ben Rockwood wrote:
> 
>> I knew this argument would arise again at some point.  Its still, 
>> clearly, an issue for community members.  Stephen mentioned my 
>> solution, the "go it alone" approach.
>>
>> Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which 
>> memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, etc)  
>> that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the fan 
>> buttons.  It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally 
>> acceptable.
>>
>>
>> For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both created 
>> using Trebuchet MS 45.  All they do is crop off the tops of the L and 
>> I.  This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm not 
>> sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have 
>> created them.  Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 myself, 
>> which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that "kindergarten 
>> modern" look of Trebuchet.  See my drop sheet: 
>> http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png
>>
>> With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this discussion 
>> when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I 
>> have refrained from creating any new ones.
>>
>> benr.
>>
>> PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal while 
>> looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff.  Its strange too look back 
>> and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've 
>> accomplished.  http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png
>>
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> My font response was in answer to the font question that was asked, 
>>> not intended to be a response to logo usage.
>>> The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that can 
>>> be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The 
>>> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, in 
>>> open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their 
>>> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty 
>>> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of 
>>> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT to 
>>> do.
>>> The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have a 
>>> proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the fan 
>>> buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for 
>>> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - 
>>> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something else 
>>> you are looking for?
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com>
>>> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Hi Sara,
>>>>
>>>> This seems... wrong, somehow.
>>>> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow 
>>>> people to use the logo freely?  It seems to me that if we keep this 
>>>> policy, then it will encourage people to either:
>>>>
>>>> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun 
>>>> sic'ing our lawyers on them
>>>> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben did 
>>>> here last year:
>>>> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273
>>>>
>>>> It seems like both cases are undesirable.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> steve
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>
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