[osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

[Sara Dornsife]

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Rockwood <benr at cuddletech.com>
Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?

> I knew this argument would arise again at some point.  Its still, 
> clearly, an issue for community members.  Stephen mentioned my 
> solution, 
> the "go it alone" approach.

For right or wrong or better or worse, OpenSolaris is a trademark of Sun and does have guidelines and requirements for use. We are trying to make them as leniant as possible, but we still have to follow them.

> 
> Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by which 
> memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup, 
> etc)  
> that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the 
> fan 
> buttons.  It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally 
> acceptable.

This would be an acceptable solution as long as the guidelines are followed. 

> 
> For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both 
> created 
> using Trebuchet MS 45.  All they do is crop off the tops of the L 
> and 
> I.  This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when, I'm 
> not 
> sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could have 
> created them.  Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40 
> myself, 
> which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that 
> "kindergarten 
> modern" look of Trebuchet.  See my drop sheet: 
> http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png

Your logos aren't legally sanctioned and could cause problems. 

> 
> With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this 
> discussion when 
> I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that time I 
> have 
> refrained from creating any new ones.

Thanks for that. :) There are user group buttons as well amongst the fan buttons. 

> 
> benr.
> 
> PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal 
> while 
> looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff.  Its strange too look 
> back and 
> realize just how long we've all been at this and how much we've 
> accomplished.  http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png

We're quickly coming up on one year! I know I'm proud of all the work we've done. 

> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> > My font response was in answer to the font question that was 
> asked, not intended to be a response to logo usage. 
> >
> > The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that 
> can be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The 
> restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to Sun, 
> in open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their 
> trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty 
> similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity of 
> OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should WANT 
> to do. 
> >
> > The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have 
> a proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the 
> fan buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for 
> OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use - 
> suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something 
> else you are looking for?
> > Sara
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com>
> > Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm
> > Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
> >
> >   
> >> Hi Sara,
> >>
> >> This seems... wrong, somehow.
> >> Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we allow 
> >> people 
> >> to use the logo freely?  It seems to me that if we keep this 
> >> policy, 
> >> then it will encourage people to either:
> >>
> >> a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of Sun 
> >> sic'ing 
> >> our lawyers on them
> >> b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben 
> did 
> >> here 
> >> last year:
> >> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273
> >>
> >> It seems like both cases are undesirable.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> steve
> >>     
> 
> 

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