[osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
patrick finch
Patrick.Finch at sun.com
Tue Apr 11 02:03:57 PDT 2006
And just to close one of the off-topic questions, according to
brand.sun.com, SunSans Demi, Italic and Bold are the fonts for titles
and headers in Sun marketing collaterals, although they do seem to have
disappeared from presentations...
Patrick
Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Ben answered this, it is some other font that he doesn't even like... And yes, it can be used.
> Sara
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Laura Ramsey <Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM>
> Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:42 pm
> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
>
>
>>Hey Sara:
>>can we check to see if the font (called Sun Serif) is enforced? I
>>was
>>surfing out on the marketing site, and none of the templates
>>indicate
>>Sun Serif as the required font. It's very possible that Sun has
>>moved
>>away from that custom font, (and therefore we might be able to
>>maneuver
>>here.)
>>
>>LKR
>>
>>
>>Ben Rockwood wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I knew this argument would arise again at some point. Its
>>
>>still,
>>
>>>clearly, an issue for community members. Stephen mentioned my
>>>solution, the "go it alone" approach.
>>>
>>>Just as a middle ground solution: we could setup a policy by
>>
>>which
>>
>>>memebers of the community could submit a request (with mockup,
>>
>>etc)
>>
>>>that could then be "blessed" and made available freely like the
>>
>>fan
>>
>>>buttons. It'd be extra work, but I think that would be legally
>>>acceptable.
>>>
>>>
>>>For the record, the Solaris and OpenSolaris logo's are both
>>
>>created
>>
>>>using Trebuchet MS 45. All they do is crop off the tops of the
>>
>>L and
>>
>>>I. This is why I made a stink about the logo's way back when,
>>
>>I'm not
>>
>>>sure how much Sun paid for those logos but a 2 year old could
>>
>>have
>>
>>>created them. Frankly, I hate the font, so I use Moderna 40
>>
>>myself,
>>
>>>which is cleaner, more stylish and dynamic with out that
>>
>>"kindergarten
>>
>>>modern" look of Trebuchet. See my drop sheet:
>>>http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-logos.png
>>>
>>>With that, however, I'll point out that we last had this
>>
>>discussion
>>
>>>when I created the aforementioned OSUG logos, and since that
>>
>>time I
>>
>>>have refrained from creating any new ones.
>>>
>>>benr.
>>>
>>>PS: Funny aside, I found my old OpenSolaris.org mockup proposal
>>
>>while
>>
>>>looking for the drop sheet, funny stuff. Its strange too look
>>
>>back
>>
>>>and realize just how long we've all been at this and how much
>>
>>we've
>>
>>>accomplished. http://cuddletech.com/OpenSolaris-Mockup.png
>>>
>>>
>>>Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My font response was in answer to the font question that was
>>
>>asked,
>>
>>>>not intended to be a response to logo usage.
>>>>The logo can NOT be used freely. There are the fan buttons that
>>
>>can
>>
>>>>be used freely (and they are pretty cool in my opinion). The
>>>>restricted and monitored use of trademarks is not unique to
>>
>>Sun, in
>>
>>>>open source or otherwise. Pick a project and go see what their
>>>>trademark guidelines are, you'll see that they are all pretty
>>>>similar. The guidelines are intended to protect the integrity
>>
>>of
>>
>>>>OpenSolaris. Something that everyone in this community should
>>
>>WANT to
>>
>>>>do.
>>>>The fan buttons aren't covering everything we need/want. I have
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>proposal in to get a program for "community projects" since the
>>
>>fan
>>
>>>>buttons relate more to individuals than to groups, and for
>>>>OpenSolaris Distributions (not sure what wording we'll use -
>>>>suggestions?). Does that solve this problem? Is there something
>>
>>else
>>
>>>>you are looking for?
>>>>Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com>
>>>>Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:43 pm
>>>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris logo font?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Sara,
>>>>>
>>>>>This seems... wrong, somehow.
>>>>>Even though the logo is generated with a Sun font, can we
>>
>>allow
>>
>>>>>people to use the logo freely? It seems to me that if we keep
>>
>>this
>>
>>>>>policy, then it will encourage people to either:
>>>>>
>>>>>a) Use the logo illicitly and be open to the possibility of
>>
>>Sun
>>
>>>>>sic'ing our lawyers on them
>>>>>b) Use the incorrect, or their own OpenSolaris logo, like Ben
>>
>>did
>>
>>>>>here last year:
>>>>>http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=273
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems like both cases are undesirable.
>>>>>
>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>steve
>>>>>
>>>>
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