From Martin.Man at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  1 01:47:21 2006
From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:47:21 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Problem with the UnixVille polls?
Message-ID: <447EA999.7080706@sun.com>

Hi All,

I have made some noise here in Prague regarding the t-shirt poll only to 
realize that none of us can actually cast their vote. Sara confirmed 
that the poll was still open, so that directed me straight to the proxy 
issue.

I have just checked the http://www.unixville.com/opensolaris/tshirt 
poll, it takes me straight to the results page, then I changed my proxy 
and voila, I can vote again, *but* only one vote per proxy can be 
actually cast (verified using my coleagues' computers). Seems there is 
some IP checking happening behind scenes.

This makes the poll rather unusable by SUN insiders, so I wanted to 
raise the issue here..

anyone from SUN seeing this?

thanx,
Martin


From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  1 02:16:11 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:16:11 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Problem with the UnixVille polls?
In-Reply-To: <447EA999.7080706@sun.com>
References: <447EA999.7080706@sun.com>
Message-ID: <447EB05B.30303@sun.com>

It is never going to be perfect - it is only the "least bad system"...

At the moment the voting is split 35% Black, 36% Orange, 20% blue.  So, 
do we follow the UK/US model and have all orange (or all black) and no 
blue, or the Western European model: a black, orange and blue tshirt?

:)


Patrick




Martin Man wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have made some noise here in Prague regarding the t-shirt poll only to 
> realize that none of us can actually cast their vote. Sara confirmed 
> that the poll was still open, so that directed me straight to the proxy 
> issue.
> 
> I have just checked the http://www.unixville.com/opensolaris/tshirt 
> poll, it takes me straight to the results page, then I changed my proxy 
> and voila, I can vote again, *but* only one vote per proxy can be 
> actually cast (verified using my coleagues' computers). Seems there is 
> some IP checking happening behind scenes.
> 
> This makes the poll rather unusable by SUN insiders, so I wanted to 
> raise the issue here..
> 
> anyone from SUN seeing this?
> 
> thanx,
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  1 07:56:01 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:56:01 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Review Request
In-Reply-To: <200605291956.k4TJuDkF727182@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
References: <200605291956.k4TJuDkF727182@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <447F0001.4040203@sun.com>

Please review and send comments by end of day today.

Michelle Olson wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Find below the draft content for the BigAdmin and SDN monthly 
> newsletters:
> 
> BigAdmin Newsletter: [section: Community Submissions or MOTD?]
> 
> <a 
> href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
> install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
> Check out the community documentation of build and installation 
> processes for the OpenSolaris project. Community members around the 
> globe publish documents and articles with procedural instructions, 
> scripts, and cheatsheets to help you learn how to get started.
> 
> 
> SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
> 
> Celebrate the first Birthday of the OpenSolaris Project with fresh 
> build and installation instructions from community contributors. 
> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
> 
> 
> *Any and all comments welcome on the above text or on the referred 
> page content.*
> 
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts, I need feedback by this Thursday 
> 6/5/06, so I can get the text to the editor on Friday.
> 
> Regards,
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:12:26 -0500
>> From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>> Subject: REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 25	
> 7am PT
>> To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
>> Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>, James 
> Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM>, Derek Cicero 
> <derek.cicero at Sun.COM>, Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM>, Dan 
> Price <dp at eng.sun.com>, Stephen Lau <stevel at Sun.COM>, Ignacio Marambio 
> Cat?n <darkjoker at gmail.com>, Moazam Raja <moazam at unixville.com>, Terri 
> Molini <Terri.Molini at Sun.COM>, Erast Benson <erast at gnusolaris.org>, 
> Torrey McMahon <Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM>, Darren J Moffat 
> <Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM>, Simon Phipps <Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM>, Rich 
> Teer <rich.teer at rite-group.com>, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, Matt 
> Ingenthron <Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM>, Martin.Man at Sun.COM, Kathy 
> Chamberlain <Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM>, Stephen Potter 
> <spp at unixsa.net>, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com>, Stephen Hahn 
> <stephen.hahn at Sun.COM>, Teresa Giacomini <Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM>
>> MIME-version: 1.0
>> X-PMX-Version: 5.1.2.240295
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>
> 
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From moazam at unixville.com  Thu Jun  1 12:44:37 2006
From: moazam at unixville.com (Moazam Raja)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:44:37 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Problem with the UnixVille polls?
In-Reply-To: <447EB05B.30303@sun.com>
References: <447EA999.7080706@sun.com> <447EB05B.30303@sun.com>
Message-ID: <BB40567F-0EB6-40CB-BC2B-381195B343A6@unixville.com>

Yeah, that kinda sucks that it's not working 100% right.  
Unfortunately the only other simple way I can think of is to force  
everyone to create an account and then vote, but I don't think that's  
a good idea either.

I'm using the built-in poll functionality in the CMS software for  
now, but eventually I'll either fix it to check for browser cookies,  
or write a different poll tool.

-Moazam

On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:16 AM, patrick finch wrote:

> It is never going to be perfect - it is only the "least bad system"...
>
> At the moment the voting is split 35% Black, 36% Orange, 20% blue.   
> So, do we follow the UK/US model and have all orange (or all black)  
> and no blue, or the Western European model: a black, orange and  
> blue tshirt?
>
> :)
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
> Martin Man wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I have made some noise here in Prague regarding the t-shirt poll  
>> only to realize that none of us can actually cast their vote. Sara  
>> confirmed that the poll was still open, so that directed me  
>> straight to the proxy issue.
>> I have just checked the http://www.unixville.com/opensolaris/ 
>> tshirt poll, it takes me straight to the results page, then I  
>> changed my proxy and voila, I can vote again, *but* only one vote  
>> per proxy can be actually cast (verified using my coleagues'  
>> computers). Seems there is some IP checking happening behind scenes.
>> This makes the poll rather unusable by SUN insiders, so I wanted  
>> to raise the issue here..
>> anyone from SUN seeing this?
>> thanx,
>> Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  1 18:38:27 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:38:27 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner ad is ready
Message-ID: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com>

You can see it and download it at:
http://www.sun.com/cgi-bin/sun/webdesign/index_banners.cgi?item=awareness:_opensolaris_one_year_anniversary

Thanks Dennis!
Sara


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  1 20:10:19 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:10:19 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
Message-ID: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>

We had spoken last week about doing a webcast. In this morning's call we 
discussed that the webcast was both cost and time prohibitive and we 
proposed doing a Sun Net Talk. The proposal was to do project Lightening 
Talks as the content.

After a conversation with our Net Talk team today, it came to light that 
we don't have time to pull off a Net Talk. We do have another option 
though called a "Take 10".

A Take 10 is a 5-10 minute on-line audio and presentation. One of the 
most significant differences is that we can have one ready for June 
14th, but otherwise it is obviously shorter than a Net Talk, instead of 
being able to lots of people you can only have one or two and only up to 
10 slides.

As suggested by the Net Talk folks, I am recommending that we do a 
series of Take 10s, each one a project Lightening Talk. We can do one a 
week if we want to. Each one separate and specific to the project it 
covers.

The first one, for the anniversary, will be (scheduled already) a year 
in review, a snapshot of OpenSolaris done by VP Marketing, Tom Goguen.

If this is something that we want to do, we need projects to be part of 
the series. We can start immediately. Let's get 5 lined up and scheduled.
Sara


From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Thu Jun  1 20:27:03 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
References: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606012022300.13503@marrakesh>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Sara Dornsife wrote:

> The first one, for the anniversary, will be (scheduled already) a year in
> review, a snapshot of OpenSolaris done by VP Marketing, Tom Goguen.

A great idea, but (if I can say so without stepping on anyone's toes) I think
Jim G would be a more logical choice.  He's the Open Solaris program manager,
and would be perceived as less corporate than a VP.  (I've nothing against Tom;
he seemed OK to me when I met him at the CAB's inaugral meeting last April.)

'Course what with moving to Japan and all, Jim might be a little bit busy!

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From benr at cuddletech.com  Fri Jun  2 01:14:08 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:14:08 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606012022300.13503@marrakesh>
References: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606012022300.13503@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <447FF350.1070808@cuddletech.com>

Rich Teer wrote:

>On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>  
>
>>The first one, for the anniversary, will be (scheduled already) a year in
>>review, a snapshot of OpenSolaris done by VP Marketing, Tom Goguen.
>>    
>>
>
>A great idea, but (if I can say so without stepping on anyone's toes) I think
>Jim G would be a more logical choice.  He's the Open Solaris program manager,
>and would be perceived as less corporate than a VP.  (I've nothing against Tom;
>he seemed OK to me when I met him at the CAB's inaugral meeting last April.)
>
>'Course what with moving to Japan and all, Jim might be a little bit busy!
>  
>
Rich is absolutely right.  But I think there is a middle ground.  I 
think the Net Talk should involve both Tom and Jim.  Tom is an excellent 
voice for OpenSolaris, but frankly he's not prominent in the community, 
he doesn't have a blog and hasn't sent a single piece of mail on the 
OpenSolaris lists that I can find. 

Jim is charismatic, enthusiastic, and serves as "the voice of the 
people" far better than anyone else.  Not only that, but as "OpenSolaris 
Community Manager", it really is his place.

Putting two power-houses together like Tom and Jim would best fulfill 
the task and provide an interesting and compelling piece.

As an aside, in the future it would be kool to have an interview 
featuring the entire Tonic team.  I think a lot of people would be 
interested to peak behind the curtain a bit, especially with regards to 
people who aren't so visible, such as Stephen Harpster and Karyn 
Ritter.  I've had the fortunate privilege to meet most everyone but not 
many have or ever will.
<http://blogs.sun.com/harpster>
benr.

PS: At times like this I miss Claire.  She was really great with 
interviews and such. 


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 05:57:59 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:57:59 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
References: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448035D7.6090806@sun.com>


Hey Sara--great approach--

How about we do the other "net talk" with lightening rounds later in mid 
July--maybe even August? The content is still very valuable, and the 
User groups would still love to have visibility into each others' 
activities.

I can take that AI back....and will pursue it Post 1st anniversary...

LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> We had spoken last week about doing a webcast. In this morning's call 
> we discussed that the webcast was both cost and time prohibitive and 
> we proposed doing a Sun Net Talk. The proposal was to do project 
> Lightening Talks as the content.
>
> After a conversation with our Net Talk team today, it came to light 
> that we don't have time to pull off a Net Talk. We do have another 
> option though called a "Take 10".
>
> A Take 10 is a 5-10 minute on-line audio and presentation. One of the 
> most significant differences is that we can have one ready for June 
> 14th, but otherwise it is obviously shorter than a Net Talk, instead 
> of being able to lots of people you can only have one or two and only 
> up to 10 slides.
>
> As suggested by the Net Talk folks, I am recommending that we do a 
> series of Take 10s, each one a project Lightening Talk. We can do one 
> a week if we want to. Each one separate and specific to the project it 
> covers.
>
> The first one, for the anniversary, will be (scheduled already) a year 
> in review, a snapshot of OpenSolaris done by VP Marketing, Tom Goguen.
>
> If this is something that we want to do, we need projects to be part 
> of the series. We can start immediately. Let's get 5 lined up and 
> scheduled.
> Sara
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 07:29:10 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:29:10 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <447FF350.1070808@cuddletech.com>
References: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606012022300.13503@marrakesh>
	<447FF350.1070808@cuddletech.com>
Message-ID: <44804B36.6050804@sun.com>


> Rich is absolutely right.  But I think there is a middle ground.  I 
> think the Net Talk should involve both Tom and Jim.  Tom is an excellent 
> voice for OpenSolaris, but frankly he's not prominent in the community, 
> he doesn't have a blog and hasn't sent a single piece of mail on the 
> OpenSolaris lists that I can find.
> Jim is charismatic, enthusiastic, and serves as "the voice of the 
> people" far better than anyone else.  Not only that, but as "OpenSolaris 
> Community Manager", it really is his place.

Let me preface by saying, I don't want to put any pressure on Jim. I 
like the idea though of having them do this together. Sun gave us all 
this code and infrastructure a year ago and that is something that Sun 
would like to celebrate too, that's where Tom comes in. I think Jim and 
Tom, as you say, are a good compromise.

> 
> Putting two power-houses together like Tom and Jim would best fulfill 
> the task and provide an interesting and compelling piece.

It's worth putting on the table.

> 
> As an aside, in the future it would be kool to have an interview 
> featuring the entire Tonic team.  I think a lot of people would be 
> interested to peak behind the curtain a bit, especially with regards to 
> people who aren't so visible, such as Stephen Harpster and Karyn 
> Ritter.  I've had the fortunate privilege to meet most everyone but not 
> many have or ever will.
> <http://blogs.sun.com/harpster>

I totally agree Ben. The Tonic team are like the little hampsters behind 
the scene keeping the engines running. (I mean that in the nicest 
possibilest way). While we're at the Take 10s, we could do a few of 
those on the ITeam, once again volunteering people that haven't offered 
yet :). We could do a Take 10 on the opensolaris.org infrastructure with 
Derek. The builds with Stepehn Lau. That kind of thing. If we did one 
with Jim on his own, he could talk about building a community.

> benr.
> 
> PS: At times like this I miss Claire.  She was really great with 
> interviews and such.


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 07:37:33 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:37:33 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <448035D7.6090806@sun.com>
References: <447FAC1B.1080408@sun.com> <448035D7.6090806@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44804D2D.30408@sun.com>

I read emails in order. Sorry, I answered Ben's differently. Either way, 
whether it's a Net Talk or a Take 10, there are plenty to do and you can 
have the action item. :)
Sara


Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Hey Sara--great approach--
> 
> How about we do the other "net talk" with lightening rounds later in mid 
> July--maybe even August? The content is still very valuable, and the 
> User groups would still love to have visibility into each others' 
> activities.
> 
> I can take that AI back....and will pursue it Post 1st anniversary...
> 
> LKR
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> 
>> We had spoken last week about doing a webcast. In this morning's call 
>> we discussed that the webcast was both cost and time prohibitive and 
>> we proposed doing a Sun Net Talk. The proposal was to do project 
>> Lightening Talks as the content.
>>
>> After a conversation with our Net Talk team today, it came to light 
>> that we don't have time to pull off a Net Talk. We do have another 
>> option though called a "Take 10".
>>
>> A Take 10 is a 5-10 minute on-line audio and presentation. One of the 
>> most significant differences is that we can have one ready for June 
>> 14th, but otherwise it is obviously shorter than a Net Talk, instead 
>> of being able to lots of people you can only have one or two and only 
>> up to 10 slides.
>>
>> As suggested by the Net Talk folks, I am recommending that we do a 
>> series of Take 10s, each one a project Lightening Talk. We can do one 
>> a week if we want to. Each one separate and specific to the project it 
>> covers.
>>
>> The first one, for the anniversary, will be (scheduled already) a year 
>> in review, a snapshot of OpenSolaris done by VP Marketing, Tom Goguen.
>>
>> If this is something that we want to do, we need projects to be part 
>> of the series. We can start immediately. Let's get 5 lined up and 
>> scheduled.
>> Sara
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Fri Jun  2 11:00:08 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
Message-ID: <200606021800.k52I08PH636260@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

+1 for Jim G. doing the first Take 10, he's totally inspirational and 
his slide presentations about this project are the tops.

Question: If the format is only audio with slides, how will we know 
who's talking if there's more than one person?

Thanks,
Michelle



>X-Original-To: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
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>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk 
-> Take 10
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>
>> Rich is absolutely right.  But I think there is a middle ground.  I 
>> think the Net Talk should involve both Tom and Jim.  Tom is an 
excellent 
>> voice for OpenSolaris, but frankly he's not prominent in the 
community, 
>> he doesn't have a blog and hasn't sent a single piece of mail on 
the 
>> OpenSolaris lists that I can find.
>> Jim is charismatic, enthusiastic, and serves as "the voice of the 
>> people" far better than anyone else.  Not only that, but as 
"OpenSolaris 
>> Community Manager", it really is his place.
>
>Let me preface by saying, I don't want to put any pressure on Jim. I 
>like the idea though of having them do this together. Sun gave us all 
>this code and infrastructure a year ago and that is something that 
Sun 
>would like to celebrate too, that's where Tom comes in. I think Jim 
and 
>Tom, as you say, are a good compromise.
>
>> 
>> Putting two power-houses together like Tom and Jim would best 
fulfill 
>> the task and provide an interesting and compelling piece.
>
>It's worth putting on the table.
>
>> 
>> As an aside, in the future it would be kool to have an interview 
>> featuring the entire Tonic team.  I think a lot of people would be 
>> interested to peak behind the curtain a bit, especially with 
regards to 
>> people who aren't so visible, such as Stephen Harpster and Karyn 
>> Ritter.  I've had the fortunate privilege to meet most everyone but 
not 
>> many have or ever will.
>> <http://blogs.sun.com/harpster>
>
>I totally agree Ben. The Tonic team are like the little hampsters 
behind 
>the scene keeping the engines running. (I mean that in the nicest 
>possibilest way). While we're at the Take 10s, we could do a few of 
>those on the ITeam, once again volunteering people that haven't 
offered 
>yet :). We could do a Take 10 on the opensolaris.org infrastructure 
with 
>Derek. The builds with Stepehn Lau. That kind of thing. If we did one 
>with Jim on his own, he could talk about building a community.
>
>> benr.
>> 
>> PS: At times like this I miss Claire.  She was really great with 
>> interviews and such.
>_______________________________________________
>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 11:49:45 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:49:45 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <200606021800.k52I08PH636260@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
References: <200606021800.k52I08PH636260@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <44808849.3050604@sun.com>

Good question. I believe that they will introduce themselves and names 
will be on slides or something. I have not done one of these yet.
Sara


Michelle Olson wrote:
> +1 for Jim G. doing the first Take 10, he's totally inspirational and 
> his slide presentations about this project are the tops.
> 
> Question: If the format is only audio with slides, how will we know 
> who's talking if there's more than one person?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
>> X-Original-To: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> Delivered-To: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:29:10 -0500
>> From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk 
> -> Take 10
>> To: Ben Rockwood <benr at cuddletech.com>
>> MIME-version: 1.0
>> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>> Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>
>> X-BeenThere: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
>> List-Id: List for marketing discussions 
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>>> Rich is absolutely right.  But I think there is a middle ground.  I 
>>> think the Net Talk should involve both Tom and Jim.  Tom is an 
> excellent 
>>> voice for OpenSolaris, but frankly he's not prominent in the 
> community, 
>>> he doesn't have a blog and hasn't sent a single piece of mail on 
> the 
>>> OpenSolaris lists that I can find.
>>> Jim is charismatic, enthusiastic, and serves as "the voice of the 
>>> people" far better than anyone else.  Not only that, but as 
> "OpenSolaris 
>>> Community Manager", it really is his place.
>> Let me preface by saying, I don't want to put any pressure on Jim. I 
>> like the idea though of having them do this together. Sun gave us all 
>> this code and infrastructure a year ago and that is something that 
> Sun 
>> would like to celebrate too, that's where Tom comes in. I think Jim 
> and 
>> Tom, as you say, are a good compromise.
>>
>>> Putting two power-houses together like Tom and Jim would best 
> fulfill 
>>> the task and provide an interesting and compelling piece.
>> It's worth putting on the table.
>>
>>> As an aside, in the future it would be kool to have an interview 
>>> featuring the entire Tonic team.  I think a lot of people would be 
>>> interested to peak behind the curtain a bit, especially with 
> regards to 
>>> people who aren't so visible, such as Stephen Harpster and Karyn 
>>> Ritter.  I've had the fortunate privilege to meet most everyone but 
> not 
>>> many have or ever will.
>>> <http://blogs.sun.com/harpster>
>> I totally agree Ben. The Tonic team are like the little hampsters 
> behind 
>> the scene keeping the engines running. (I mean that in the nicest 
>> possibilest way). While we're at the Take 10s, we could do a few of 
>> those on the ITeam, once again volunteering people that haven't 
> offered 
>> yet :). We could do a Take 10 on the opensolaris.org infrastructure 
> with 
>> Derek. The builds with Stepehn Lau. That kind of thing. If we did one 
>> with Jim on his own, he could talk about building a community.
>>
>>> benr.
>>>
>>> PS: At times like this I miss Claire.  She was really great with 
>>> interviews and such.
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 12:14:04 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:04 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
In-Reply-To: <44808849.3050604@sun.com>
References: <200606021800.k52I08PH636260@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
	<44808849.3050604@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44808DFC.3060004@sun.com>


Before we get our hearts set on having 2 speakers ...let's remember that 
a 5-10 minute a/v clip is short to share between 2 speakers.
Just a thought.

Also, I agree that I'd love to see Jim featured and focused on the 
community itself--what we've accomplished, and how to get involved. 
community building stuff.  Just don't want the messages rushed together 
if it can be avoided.

LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> Good question. I believe that they will introduce themselves and names 
> will be on slides or something. I have not done one of these yet.
> Sara
>
>
> Michelle Olson wrote:
>
>> +1 for Jim G. doing the first Take 10, he's totally inspirational and 
>> his slide presentations about this project are the tops.
>>
>> Question: If the format is only audio with slides, how will we know 
>> who's talking if there's more than one person?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michelle
>>
>>
>>
>>> X-Original-To: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> Delivered-To: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:29:10 -0500
>>> From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk 
>>
>> -> Take 10
>>
>>> To: Ben Rockwood <benr at cuddletech.com>
>>> MIME-version: 1.0
>>> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>> Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>
>>> X-BeenThere: opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
>>> List-Id: List for marketing discussions 
>>
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>>
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>>
>> <http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-mktg>, 
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>>
>>> List-Archive: 
>>
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>>
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>> <mailto:opensolaris-mktg-request at opensolaris.org?subject=subscribe>
>>
>>>
>>>> Rich is absolutely right.  But I think there is a middle ground.  I 
>>>> think the Net Talk should involve both Tom and Jim.  Tom is an 
>>>
>> excellent
>>
>>>> voice for OpenSolaris, but frankly he's not prominent in the 
>>>
>> community,
>>
>>>> he doesn't have a blog and hasn't sent a single piece of mail on 
>>>
>> the
>>
>>>> OpenSolaris lists that I can find.
>>>> Jim is charismatic, enthusiastic, and serves as "the voice of the 
>>>> people" far better than anyone else.  Not only that, but as 
>>>
>> "OpenSolaris
>>
>>>> Community Manager", it really is his place.
>>>
>>> Let me preface by saying, I don't want to put any pressure on Jim. I 
>>> like the idea though of having them do this together. Sun gave us 
>>> all this code and infrastructure a year ago and that is something that 
>>
>> Sun
>>
>>> would like to celebrate too, that's where Tom comes in. I think Jim 
>>
>> and
>>
>>> Tom, as you say, are a good compromise.
>>>
>>>> Putting two power-houses together like Tom and Jim would best 
>>>
>> fulfill
>>
>>>> the task and provide an interesting and compelling piece.
>>>
>>> It's worth putting on the table.
>>>
>>>> As an aside, in the future it would be kool to have an interview 
>>>> featuring the entire Tonic team.  I think a lot of people would be 
>>>> interested to peak behind the curtain a bit, especially with 
>>>
>> regards to
>>
>>>> people who aren't so visible, such as Stephen Harpster and Karyn 
>>>> Ritter.  I've had the fortunate privilege to meet most everyone but 
>>>
>> not
>>
>>>> many have or ever will.
>>>> <http://blogs.sun.com/harpster>
>>>
>>> I totally agree Ben. The Tonic team are like the little hampsters 
>>
>> behind
>>
>>> the scene keeping the engines running. (I mean that in the nicest 
>>> possibilest way). While we're at the Take 10s, we could do a few of 
>>> those on the ITeam, once again volunteering people that haven't 
>>
>> offered
>>
>>> yet :). We could do a Take 10 on the opensolaris.org infrastructure 
>>
>> with
>>
>>> Derek. The builds with Stepehn Lau. That kind of thing. If we did 
>>> one with Jim on his own, he could talk about building a community.
>>>
>>>> benr.
>>>>
>>>> PS: At times like this I miss Claire.  She was really great with 
>>>> interviews and such.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 12:21:18 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:21:18 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Notes: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 1st
	7am PT
In-Reply-To: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com>
References: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>

Attending:
Patrick Finch
Bonnie Corwin
Martin Man
Terri Molini
Rich Teer
Teresa Giacomini
Michelle Olson
Tim Foster
Laura Ramsey
Sara Dornsife

New news:
Martin notified us that the team in Prague had just secured 
www.opensolaris.cz locally.

Status updates:
Patrick - overview of Sun.com (and internally Sunweb) feature will be an 
overview of the top 5 most important things that have been circulating 
on the marketing list. He will look for volunteers to review and have a 
draft ready by Tues.

Michelle - draft of the newsletter items has been circulated for 
comment, but none have come in yet. I resent the mail during the 
meeting. Please comment on the proposed copy, list of docs, and/or web 
page by *close of business today (Friday June 1) CA time*. Michelle's 
deadline is Tues of next week. Michelle is also going to find out if she 
needs (and than get if she does) permission to link to all of those 
things listed since they are located all over the place.

Sara - NetTalk has turned into Take 10 series. The first Take 10, 
available for June 14, will be an overview of the project in the first 
year. Others in the series will be lightening talks about individual 
projects.

Action Items:
Patrick - draft of sun.com feature by Tues 6/10
Everyone - send Michelle comments on newsletters
Michelle - get permission to link where needed
Sara - send around home page copy idea email to list
Sara - find out status of McNealy report for anniversary

Hope I caught everything.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Thursdays
> 7am PT
> 
> Dial-in
> 866-545-5198
> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
> 558-7579 (participant code)
> 
> Agenda:
> - Webcast -> Net Talk - Laura handing over to Sara
> -- Ideas welcome for what to cover and who to participate. If you don't 
> know what a Sun Net Talk is, you can check out the last one we did at 
> https://communications.sun.com/dialog/singleeventpage.do?eventId=5341 - 
> it's good to have everyone that is participating be in the same room for 
> taping, but it is not necessary.
> - Field materials review - Laura Ramsey
> - OpenSolaris home page ideas - Sara Dornsife
> - Sun.com feature article - Patrick Finch
> - Newsletter Review - Michelle Olson
> - Contributor Awards - Sara Dornsife
> - T-shirts - Sara Dornsife
> - Roundtable - everyone
> 
> Let me know if you have any other agenda items. Talk to you in the morning.
> Sara
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 12:28:55 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:28:55 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
Message-ID: <44809177.90508@sun.com>

For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to the 
#1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I threw 
this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some suggestions.

I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. Here are 
the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have thought of 
and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.

Thanks,
Sara

- "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to the 
FUD throwers

- Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
hasn't crushed us.

- A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example, 
26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc.

- Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running

- Kicking ass for 12 months

- More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
something here)


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 12:35:16 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:35:16 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Notes: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 1st
	7am PT
In-Reply-To: <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
References: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com> <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448092F4.2060801@sun.com>


There was also good discussion of what the changes for the front page of 
opensolaris.org could be...can't remember the AIs associated with 
that--I think there were some tho.

LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> Attending:
> Patrick Finch
> Bonnie Corwin
> Martin Man
> Terri Molini
> Rich Teer
> Teresa Giacomini
> Michelle Olson
> Tim Foster
> Laura Ramsey
> Sara Dornsife
>
> New news:
> Martin notified us that the team in Prague had just secured 
> www.opensolaris.cz locally.
>
> Status updates:
> Patrick - overview of Sun.com (and internally Sunweb) feature will be 
> an overview of the top 5 most important things that have been 
> circulating on the marketing list. He will look for volunteers to 
> review and have a draft ready by Tues.
>
> Michelle - draft of the newsletter items has been circulated for 
> comment, but none have come in yet. I resent the mail during the 
> meeting. Please comment on the proposed copy, list of docs, and/or web 
> page by *close of business today (Friday June 1) CA time*. Michelle's 
> deadline is Tues of next week. Michelle is also going to find out if 
> she needs (and than get if she does) permission to link to all of 
> those things listed since they are located all over the place.
>
> Sara - NetTalk has turned into Take 10 series. The first Take 10, 
> available for June 14, will be an overview of the project in the first 
> year. Others in the series will be lightening talks about individual 
> projects.
>
> Action Items:
> Patrick - draft of sun.com feature by Tues 6/10
> Everyone - send Michelle comments on newsletters
> Michelle - get permission to link where needed
> Sara - send around home page copy idea email to list
> Sara - find out status of McNealy report for anniversary
>
> Hope I caught everything.
> Sara
>
>
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> Thursdays
>> 7am PT
>>
>> Dial-in
>> 866-545-5198
>> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
>> 558-7579 (participant code)
>>
>> Agenda:
>> - Webcast -> Net Talk - Laura handing over to Sara
>> -- Ideas welcome for what to cover and who to participate. If you 
>> don't know what a Sun Net Talk is, you can check out the last one we 
>> did at 
>> https://communications.sun.com/dialog/singleeventpage.do?eventId=5341 
>> - it's good to have everyone that is participating be in the same 
>> room for taping, but it is not necessary.
>> - Field materials review - Laura Ramsey
>> - OpenSolaris home page ideas - Sara Dornsife
>> - Sun.com feature article - Patrick Finch
>> - Newsletter Review - Michelle Olson
>> - Contributor Awards - Sara Dornsife
>> - T-shirts - Sara Dornsife
>> - Roundtable - everyone
>>
>> Let me know if you have any other agenda items. Talk to you in the 
>> morning.
>> Sara
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 12:38:19 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:38:19 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <44809177.90508@sun.com>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>

Sara Dornsife wrote:

> For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to 
> the #1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I 
> threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some 
> suggestions.
>
> I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. Here 
> are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have thought 
> of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>
> Thanks,
> Sara
>
> - "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to the 
> FUD throwers 

 While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road and 
be inclusive...no need to be bitter.

>
>
> - Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
> OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
> hasn't crushed us. 

again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
celebration

>
>
> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example, 
> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc. 

Okay--closer

>
>
> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 

Love this one.

>
>
> - Kicking ass for 12 months 


>
>
> - More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
> something here) 

Love this one.

>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  2 15:35:38 2006
From: Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM (Eric Boutilier)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:35:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-mktg
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0606021734570.59199@sr1-uita01-02>

For background on what this is, see:

    http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416
    http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200

=============================
opensolaris-mktg 05/16 - 05/31
=============================

Threads or announcements originated by leaders during the period:

-  updated anniversary t-shirt mockup
    by Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)

-  Installation Article--Can you send PDF?
-  OpenSolaris Field Materials Review Underway!
-  Congratulation OpenSolaris--CODIE AWARD WINNER for Best  Open Source Solution!
-  5 most important things....for Anniversary....
    by Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)

-  REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 1st 7am PT
-  Banner Ad Poll
-  OpenSolaris t-shirt color poll
-  OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting notes from May 26
    by Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)

================================================================

Size of all threads during period:

Thread size     Topic
-----------     -----
     26       Anniversary T-shirt art on blue and black
     18       OpenSolaris t-shirt color poll
     13       Want OpenSolaris anniversary May 18 7am PT?
     12       Banner Ad Poll
     11       OpenSolaris laptop sticker artwork for anniversary
     11       5 most important things....for Anniversary....
      9       updated anniversary t-shirt mockup
      8       opensolaris wallpapers
      8       Installation Article--Can you send PDF?
      4       what about that one
      3       REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 11 7am PT
      3       Proposed OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
      3       OpenSolaris Flickr Poster?
      2       nominations
      2       REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 11
      2       REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May
      2       OpenSolaris Field Materials Review Underway!
      2       Nomination for First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
      2       Improvements to the user group talks & presentations page ?
      2       Improvements to the user group talks & presentations
      1       test mail
      1       Sun lost one of it's biggest and oldest x86 customer
      1       Subject: Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-mktg
      1       Subject: Links to rollup reports
      1       Review Request
      1       Recognition Idea (was part of anniversary discussion)
      1       REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 1st 7am PT
      1       REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 25 7am PT
      1       REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs
      1       OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Proposal
      1       OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting notes from May 26
      1       OpenSolaris Anniversary activities
      1       Metrics updates
      1       Improvements to the user group talks &
      1       How Do You Use OpenSolaris? (long, SunRay)
      1       Congratulation OpenSolaris--CODIE AWARD WINNER for Best Open Source Solution!
================================================================

Posting activity by person for period:

# of posts Ldr  By
---------- --- ------------------------------------------------
     45    *  sara.dornsife at sun.com (sara dornsife)
     16    *  laura.ramsey at sun.com (laura ramsey)
     13       spp at unixsa.net (stephen potter)
     10    *  tim.foster at sun.com (tim foster)
      8       martin.man at sun.com (martin man)
      8       bonnie.corwin at sun.com (bonnie corwin)
      7       dclarke at blastwave.org (dennis clarke)
      6       moazam at unixville.com (moazam raja)
      6       jim.grisanzio at sun.com (jim grisanzio)
      5       stevel at sun.com (stephen lau)
      5       rich.teer at rite-group.com (rich teer)
      5    *  patrick.finch at sun.com (patrick finch)
      3       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (joerg schilling)
      2       teresa.giacomini at sun.com (teresa giacomini)
      2       mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (michelle olson)
      2       darkjoker at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?ignacio_marambio_cat=e1n?=)
      1       wes at classiarius.com (wes williams)
      1       webmink at sun.com (simon phipps)
      1       venkytv at sun.com (venky)
      1       theuser at orbit.in-berlin.de (tatjana s heuser)
      1       terri.molini at sun.com (terri molini)
      1       sriramnrn at gmail.com (sriram narayanan)
      1       pplouffe at unixsquare.org (phil plouffe)
      1       p.tribble at herts.ac.uk (peter tribble)
      1       joe.g at sun.com (joe g (joseph george))
      1       jamesd.wi at gmail.com (james dickens)
      1       glynn.foster at sun.com (glynn foster)
      1       felix.schulte at gmail.com (felix schulte)
      1       cyril.plisko at mountall.com (cyril plisko)
      1       alessio.cervellin at sun-cs-italy.com (alessioc)
      1       alan.hargreaves at sun.com (alan hargreaves)
================================================================

Discussion URL: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=14
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing




From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de  Sat Jun  3 05:56:14 2006
From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:56:14 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Sun lost one of it's biggest and 
	oldest x86 customer
In-Reply-To: <74f15d5f0605311238h3ee1ff6dk7eb62fb0c58cc72@mail.gmail.com>
References: <447DD865.nail9TI11DRT2@burner>
	<74f15d5f0605311238h3ee1ff6dk7eb62fb0c58cc72@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <448186EE.nailBND2BKOI4@burner>

"Felix Schulte" <felix.schulte at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/31/06, Joerg Schilling <schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> > They wanted OpenSource & kde and claimed that they need to move away from
> > Solaris in order to get this.
> Sun will loose even more customers. The ministry of science and
> education has ordered the universities in Hessen (a part of Germany)
> to buy support contracts for Unix/Linux-like operating systems only
> and ONLY if KDE support is included. The remaining parts of Germany
> will follow that decision.

I thought KDE is included (omn the Companbion CD), so what is the problem
with Solaris?

J?rg

-- 
 EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js at cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily


From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Fri Jun  2 18:11:08 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Review Request
Message-ID: <200606030111.k531B8Fi195223@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

Hi Sara,

Thanks to all who sent comments, below is the updated copy. I also 
updated the doc_index/install page with some meta-data about the links 
based on the the comments from our meeting on Thurs. Let me know what 
you think of that too, is it enough?

BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions

<a 
href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>

It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
contributions that are driving the next generation of operating system 
innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
www.opensolaris.org/os to get the most recent build of 
OpenSolaris...and check out the community documentation of build and 
installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.

SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]

It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked out 
the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to www.opensolaris.org/os to get the 
most recent build of OpenSolaris code and the tools you need. Be sure 
to check out the community documentation of build and installation 
processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for yourself 
at: 
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install

Thanks,
Michelle


>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:56:01 -0500
>From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Review Request
>To: Michelle Olson <mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com>
>Cc: stevel at Sun.COM, Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM, 
Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM, Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM, erast at gnusolaris.org, 
darkjoker at gmail.com, opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org, 
Terri.Molini at Sun.COM, derek.cicero at Sun.COM, stephen.hahn at Sun.COM, 
Martin.Man at Sun.COM, blastwave at gmail.com, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, 
Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM, Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM, Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM, 
Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM, Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM, spp at unixsa.net
>MIME-version: 1.0
>Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
>X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296
>User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>
>Please review and send comments by end of day today.
>
>Michelle Olson wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Find below the draft content for the BigAdmin and SDN monthly 
>> newsletters:
>> 
>> BigAdmin Newsletter: [section: Community Submissions or MOTD?]
>> 
>> <a 
>> 
href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
>> install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
>> Check out the community documentation of build and installation 
>> processes for the OpenSolaris project. Community members around the 
>> globe publish documents and articles with procedural instructions, 
>> scripts, and cheatsheets to help you learn how to get started.
>> 
>> 
>> SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
>> 
>> Celebrate the first Birthday of the OpenSolaris Project with fresh 
>> build and installation instructions from community contributors. 
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
>> 
>> 
>> *Any and all comments welcome on the above text or on the referred 
>> page content.*
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts, I need feedback by this 
Thursday 
>> 6/5/06, so I can get the text to the editor on Friday.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:12:26 -0500
>>> From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>> Subject: REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 25	
>> 7am PT
>>> To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
>>> Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>, 
James 
>> Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM>, Derek Cicero 
>> <derek.cicero at Sun.COM>, Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM>, Dan 
>> Price <dp at eng.sun.com>, Stephen Lau <stevel at Sun.COM>, Ignacio 
Marambio 
>> Cat?n <darkjoker at gmail.com>, Moazam Raja <moazam at unixville.com>, 
Terri 
>> Molini <Terri.Molini at Sun.COM>, Erast Benson <erast at gnusolaris.org>, 
>> Torrey McMahon <Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM>, Darren J Moffat 
>> <Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM>, Simon Phipps <Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM>, Rich 
>> Teer <rich.teer at rite-group.com>, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, Matt 
>> Ingenthron <Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM>, Martin.Man at Sun.COM, Kathy 
>> Chamberlain <Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM>, Stephen Potter 
>> <spp at unixsa.net>, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com>, Stephen Hahn 
>> <stephen.hahn at Sun.COM>, Teresa Giacomini <Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM>
>>> MIME-version: 1.0
>>> X-PMX-Version: 5.1.2.240295
>>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 01:20:44 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 10:20:44 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com> <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4483E95C.9060809@sun.com>

Hi,

My thought is that the opportunity is to attract new members.  If all 
our other anniversary activities are successful, we should expect a big 
spike in first time or infrequent visitors to the site, and these are 
the folks we would like to look around.

So, this doesn't need to be too different from the existing site,

For this reason, I like this:

 >> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running
in combination with this

 >> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example,
 >> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc.

I am not sure if numbers are required here or not, they just serve to 
highlight:

eg.

__________________________________________________________

Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:

14,000 + members [link to registration page]

40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
	Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
	Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
	Laptop	[links to laptop community]
	DTrace [links to DTrace community]
	ZFS [links to ZFS community]
	Zones [links to Zones community]
	
27 different projects, [links to projects page]

29 different user groups [links to user group page]

30,000 downloads [links to download page]
	
_________________________________________________________


I would especially highlight the Immigrants, Sys admins, Latop, Dtrace, 
ZFS and Zones communities, as I think these are the ones that will 
attract those with some interest.  Also, would you say "off and running" 
in the US?  In, ahem, English English, I would have said "up and 
running", but I'll defer as about 35% of site traffic is from the US, 5% 
from the UK.

regards

Patrick







Laura Ramsey wrote:
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> 
>> For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to 
>> the #1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I 
>> threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some 
>> suggestions.
>>
>> I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. Here 
>> are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have thought 
>> of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sara
>>
>> - "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to the 
>> FUD throwers 
> 
> While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road and 
> be inclusive...no need to be bitter.
> 
>>
>>
>> - Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
>> OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
>> hasn't crushed us. 
> 
> again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
> celebration
> 
>>
>>
>> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example, 
>> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc. 
> 
> Okay--closer
> 
>>
>>
>> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 
> 
> Love this one.
> 
>>
>>
>> - Kicking ass for 12 months 
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> - More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
>> something here) 
> 
> Love this one.
> 
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 04:38:16 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:38:16 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: May 2006 - The Software Connection]
Message-ID: <448417A8.9070507@sun.com>


Mentions of JavaOne activities for OpenSolaris --out to the field and 
customer base!

LKR

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From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 04:42:04 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:42:04 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: News in 99.5: Sun leads UNIX Market;
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Message-ID: <4484188C.4020808@sun.com>


Another good mention for OpenSolaris in System news Letter--Sidebar of 
features of OpenSolaris in context with Solaris 10 updates story...
scroll down for a good time...
LKR

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From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 08:01:42 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 09:01:42 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <4483E95C.9060809@sun.com>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com> <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
	<4483E95C.9060809@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44844756.4030506@Sun.COM>

Patrick Finch wrote On 06/05/06 02:20,:
> Hi,
> 
> My thought is that the opportunity is to attract new members.  If all 
> our other anniversary activities are successful, we should expect a big 
> spike in first time or infrequent visitors to the site, and these are 
> the folks we would like to look around.
> 
> So, this doesn't need to be too different from the existing site,
> 
> For this reason, I like this:
> 
>  >> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running
> in combination with this
> 
>  >> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example,
>  >> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc.
> 
> I am not sure if numbers are required here or not, they just serve to 
> highlight:
> 
> eg.
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> 
> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
> 
> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
> 
> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
> 	Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
> 	Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
> 	Laptop	[links to laptop community]
> 	DTrace [links to DTrace community]
> 	ZFS [links to ZFS community]
> 	Zones [links to Zones community]
> 	
> 27 different projects, [links to projects page]
> 
> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
> 
> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
> 	

I like this.

Do we also want a line for:

5 distributions [link to distributions page]


> _________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> I would especially highlight the Immigrants, Sys admins, Latop, Dtrace, 
> ZFS and Zones communities, as I think these are the ones that will 
> attract those with some interest.  Also, would you say "off and running" 
> in the US?  In, ahem, English English, I would have said "up and 
> running", but I'll defer as about 35% of site traffic is from the US, 5% 
> from the UK.

I think 'up and running' works fine.  And I think I prefer it to 'off
and running'.  Still works for the 1-year-old analogy since the baby has
to get him/herself literally up in order to start walking.  And it works
for the website, the project, etc.

Bonnie

> 
> regards
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
>>Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>
>>>For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to 
>>>the #1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I 
>>>threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some 
>>>suggestions.
>>>
>>>I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. Here 
>>>are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have thought 
>>>of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Sara
>>>
>>>- "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to the 
>>>FUD throwers 
>>
>>While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road and 
>>be inclusive...no need to be bitter.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
>>>OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
>>>hasn't crushed us. 
>>
>>again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
>>celebration
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example, 
>>>26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc. 
>>
>>Okay--closer
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 
>>
>>Love this one.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- Kicking ass for 12 months 
>>
>>
>>>
>>>- More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
>>>something here) 
>>
>>Love this one.
>>
>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 08:21:09 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 09:21:09 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] Review Request
In-Reply-To: <200606030111.k531B8Fi195223@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
References: <200606030111.k531B8Fi195223@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <44844BE5.7060000@Sun.COM>

Hi Michelle,

Michelle Olson wrote On 06/02/06 19:11,:
> Hi Sara,
> 
> Thanks to all who sent comments, below is the updated copy. I also 
> updated the doc_index/install page with some meta-data about the links 
> based on the the comments from our meeting on Thurs. Let me know what 
> you think of that too, is it enough?
> 
> BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions
> 
> <a 
> href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
> install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
> 
> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
> contributions that are driving the next generation of operating system 
> innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
> www.opensolaris.org/os to get the most recent build of 
> OpenSolaris...and check out the community documentation of build and 
> installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.

Be careful about using phrases like 'the most recent build of
OpenSolaris'.  I would be very specific with words and links.  If you go
to the downloads page (opensolaris.org/os/downloads), you get choices
about downloading various pieces of source.  If you want to point people
to distributions, I would specifically say that: Go to
www.opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions to find information about
available distributions built on top of OpenSolaris.

If I'm not mistaken, the current build and install instructions
available on opensolaris.org are only for the ON consolidation.  If
that's still true, this information should be specific - point people to
the downloads page for the source and to the associated build/install
instructions for that.

> 
> SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
> 
> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
> innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked out 

innovation found in Solaris 10?  Because Solaris 10 has already shipped?

> the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to www.opensolaris.org/os to get the 
> most recent build of OpenSolaris code and the tools you need. Be sure 

Again, if you're pointing people at code, say that:

Go to www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to find code available for download.

> to check out the community documentation of build and installation 
> processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for yourself 
> at: 
> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install

If this is for building/installing the ON consolidation, say that.

> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> 
> 
>>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:56:01 -0500
>>From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Review Request
>>To: Michelle Olson <mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com>
>>Cc: stevel at Sun.COM, Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM, 
> 
> Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM, Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM, erast at gnusolaris.org, 
> darkjoker at gmail.com, opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org, 
> Terri.Molini at Sun.COM, derek.cicero at Sun.COM, stephen.hahn at Sun.COM, 
> Martin.Man at Sun.COM, blastwave at gmail.com, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, 
> Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM, Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM, Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM, 
> Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM, Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM, spp at unixsa.net
> 
>>MIME-version: 1.0
>>Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
>>X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296
>>User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>
>>Please review and send comments by end of day today.
>>
>>Michelle Olson wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Find below the draft content for the BigAdmin and SDN monthly 
>>>newsletters:
>>>
>>>BigAdmin Newsletter: [section: Community Submissions or MOTD?]
>>>
>>><a 
>>>
> 
> href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
> 
>>>install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
>>>Check out the community documentation of build and installation 
>>>processes for the OpenSolaris project. Community members around the 
>>>globe publish documents and articles with procedural instructions, 
>>>scripts, and cheatsheets to help you learn how to get started.
>>>
>>>
>>>SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
>>>
>>>Celebrate the first Birthday of the OpenSolaris Project with fresh 
>>>build and installation instructions from community contributors. 
>>>http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
>>>
>>>
>>>*Any and all comments welcome on the above text or on the referred 
>>>page content.*
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for your thoughts, I need feedback by this 
> 
> Thursday 
> 
>>>6/5/06, so I can get the text to the editor on Friday.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Michelle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:12:26 -0500
>>>>From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>>>Subject: REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 25	
>>>
>>>7am PT
>>>
>>>>To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
>>>>Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>, 
> 
> James 
> 
>>>Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM>, Derek Cicero 
>>><derek.cicero at Sun.COM>, Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM>, Dan 
>>>Price <dp at eng.sun.com>, Stephen Lau <stevel at Sun.COM>, Ignacio 
> 
> Marambio 
> 
>>>Cat?n <darkjoker at gmail.com>, Moazam Raja <moazam at unixville.com>, 
> 
> Terri 
> 
>>>Molini <Terri.Molini at Sun.COM>, Erast Benson <erast at gnusolaris.org>, 
>>>Torrey McMahon <Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM>, Darren J Moffat 
>>><Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM>, Simon Phipps <Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM>, Rich 
>>>Teer <rich.teer at rite-group.com>, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, Matt 
>>>Ingenthron <Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM>, Martin.Man at Sun.COM, Kathy 
>>>Chamberlain <Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM>, Stephen Potter 
>>><spp at unixsa.net>, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com>, Stephen Hahn 
>>><stephen.hahn at Sun.COM>, Teresa Giacomini <Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM>
>>>
>>>>MIME-version: 1.0
>>>>X-PMX-Version: 5.1.2.240295
>>>>User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> 
> 



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 12:23:15 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:23:15 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
Message-ID: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>

Based on the +1s, we are moving forward with this proposal. Get your 
nominations in.

What is a contributor?
You define it. There is only one category, one requirement to be the 
recipient of one of these coveted awards: that the winner has to have 
done something -- anything -- to the benefit of the OpenSolaris 
community. It could be postings, code, evangelism, curriculum, blogs, 
etc. etc. etc.


How are we going to do this?

Anyone can make a nomination:

- Send your nomination email to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
- Tell us who you are nominating and why you feel he/she should receive
an OpenSolaris Contributor Award.  Be specific.
- The first 200 people who send in nominations will receive an 
anniversary gift. One gift per person, but you can nominate as many 
people as you'd like. We'll collect your address and size separately.

What do nominators get?
- #1 T-shirt (artwork has been sent to mktg list)
- OpenSolaris stickers (for sticking on stuff - artwork sent to mktg list)
- OpenSolaris laptop sticker (the metalic or clear, small kind - artwork 
sent to mktg list)
- An OpenSolaris electrostatic cling (for your car window)
- A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
favorite distro - artwork is located at 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/


We can take nominations from Monday June 5 through Monday June 12.


Who wins?
 From the pool of nominations that are received, the 20 most 
contributing-est contributors will be selected. Those 20 individuals 
will be named OpenSolaris Contributors and will receive the same gift as 
above, plus a fancy OpenSolaris embroidered polo shirt for occasions 
when you need to dress up. (These are an extremely limited edition, only 
20 will be produced.) And an OpenSolaris "space pen", for when you need 
to write in zero gravity or under water.


Who does the selecting?
The CAB will judge which 20 members of the community will win.


Where will the nominees be listed?
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/

As emails come in nominating people, they will be added to this page. 
The ones I have already gotten are posted there now.


When will we know who has won?
Winners will be posted on the anniversary ? June 14.


From P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk  Mon Jun  5 12:36:05 2006
From: P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk (Peter Tribble)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:36:05 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Contributor Award Nomination
Message-ID: <1149536165.24319.25.camel@platinum>

I would like to nominate:

Ben Rockwood, for being a great asset to the community and doing
an awful lot of work behind the scenes.

Robert Milkowski, for beating zfs to a pulp so I don't have to.

Dave Miner, for bringing the install consolidation out of the
shadows. (And putting up with me.)

-- 
-Peter Tribble
L.I.S., University of Hertfordshire - http://www.herts.ac.uk/
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/




From matty at daemons.net  Mon Jun  5 12:33:31 2006
From: matty at daemons.net (Matty)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:33:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Opensolaris contributor nominations
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0606051531310.3976@tigger>


I would like to nominate Brendan Gregg for his work on the DTraceToolkit. 
The DTrace Toolkit has helped numerous SysAdmin's come up to speed on 
DTrace, and has been the subject of numerous technical articles. Brendan 
spent a good deal of time writing this, and deserves to be honored for 
his exceptional work.

Thanks,
- Ryan
--
UNIX Administrator
http://daemons.net/~matty


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 14:29:22 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:29:22 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <44844756.4030506@Sun.COM>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com> <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
	<4483E95C.9060809@sun.com> <44844756.4030506@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <4484A232.1010607@sun.com>

Agreed, agreed, agreed.

Unless there are any objections, I will submit the following to the 
website-discuss alias tomorrow end of day.


Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:

14,000 + members [link to registration page]

40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
     Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
     Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
     Laptop    [links to laptop community]
     DTrace [links to DTrace community]
     ZFS [links to ZFS community]
     Zones [links to Zones community]

27 different projects, [links to projects page]

29 different user groups [links to user group page]

30,000 downloads [links to download page]

5 distributions [links to distro page]


This will run from June 14 - June 28th.
Sara


Bonnie Corwin wrote:
> Patrick Finch wrote On 06/05/06 02:20,:
>> Hi,
>>
>> My thought is that the opportunity is to attract new members.  If all 
>> our other anniversary activities are successful, we should expect a big 
>> spike in first time or infrequent visitors to the site, and these are 
>> the folks we would like to look around.
>>
>> So, this doesn't need to be too different from the existing site,
>>
>> For this reason, I like this:
>>
>>  >> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running
>> in combination with this
>>
>>  >> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example,
>>  >> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc.
>>
>> I am not sure if numbers are required here or not, they just serve to 
>> highlight:
>>
>> eg.
>>
>> __________________________________________________________
>>
>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>
>> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
>>
>> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
>> 	Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
>> 	Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
>> 	Laptop	[links to laptop community]
>> 	DTrace [links to DTrace community]
>> 	ZFS [links to ZFS community]
>> 	Zones [links to Zones community]
>> 	
>> 27 different projects, [links to projects page]
>>
>> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
>>
>> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
>> 	
> 
> I like this.
> 
> Do we also want a line for:
> 
> 5 distributions [link to distributions page]
> 
> 
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I would especially highlight the Immigrants, Sys admins, Latop, Dtrace, 
>> ZFS and Zones communities, as I think these are the ones that will 
>> attract those with some interest.  Also, would you say "off and running" 
>> in the US?  In, ahem, English English, I would have said "up and 
>> running", but I'll defer as about 35% of site traffic is from the US, 5% 
>> from the UK.
> 
> I think 'up and running' works fine.  And I think I prefer it to 'off
> and running'.  Still works for the 1-year-old analogy since the baby has
> to get him/herself literally up in order to start walking.  And it works
> for the website, the project, etc.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
>> regards
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>
>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to 
>>>> the #1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I 
>>>> threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some 
>>>> suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. Here 
>>>> are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have thought 
>>>> of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>> - "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to the 
>>>> FUD throwers 
>>> While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road and 
>>> be inclusive...no need to be bitter.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
>>>> OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
>>>> hasn't crushed us. 
>>> again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
>>> celebration
>>>
>>>
>>>> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For example, 
>>>> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, etc. 
>>> Okay--closer
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 
>>> Love this one.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Kicking ass for 12 months 
>>>
>>>> - More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
>>>> something here) 
>>> Love this one.
>>>
>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From darkjoker at gmail.com  Mon Jun  5 14:24:12 2006
From: darkjoker at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Marambio_Cat=E1n?=)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:24:12 -0300
Subject: [osol-mktg] osol nominations
Message-ID: <ea5e1eee0606051424t50d4067rae1da34758f306e9@mail.gmail.com>

i'd like to nominate three people, please, dont kill me, these are:
*ben rockwood, his blog is(was) full of great information about
opensolaris and solaris in general, he is one of the guys behind
genunix and a lot more, i still wonder if his day has only 24 hours

*jim grisanzio, i can only hope he keep up the good work when he moves
to japan, he's been key in the evangelization of opensolaris

*Dennis Clarke, he just loves opensolaris, probably more than all the rest of us


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 14:43:24 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:43:24 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] osol nominations
In-Reply-To: <ea5e1eee0606051424t50d4067rae1da34758f306e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ea5e1eee0606051424t50d4067rae1da34758f306e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4484A57C.2070704@sun.com>

You can nominate as many people as you'd like to. I've added these (as 
well as the others I've received) to the site.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
Sara

Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote:
> i'd like to nominate three people, please, dont kill me, these are:
> *ben rockwood, his blog is(was) full of great information about
> opensolaris and solaris in general, he is one of the guys behind
> genunix and a lot more, i still wonder if his day has only 24 hours
> 
> *jim grisanzio, i can only hope he keep up the good work when he moves
> to japan, he's been key in the evangelization of opensolaris
> 
> *Dennis Clarke, he just loves opensolaris, probably more than all the 
> rest of us
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From bart.smaalders at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 14:47:34 2006
From: bart.smaalders at Sun.COM (Bart Smaalders)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:47:34 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] nomination
Message-ID: <4484A676.1080002@Sun.COM>

J?rgen Keil

He's made 16 contributions to OpenSolaris so far, and does
excellent quality work.

- Bart


-- 
Bart Smaalders			Solaris Kernel Performance
barts at cyber.eng.sun.com		http://blogs.sun.com/barts


From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Mon Jun  5 14:49:17 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:49:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Review Request
Message-ID: <200606052149.k55LnH2K167976@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

Hi Bonnie,

Thanks so much for these comments and for replying to the list, I have 
similar concerns about this language, so I appreciate your 
suggestions. Did you look at the doc_index page? That page has the 
build and install instructions I'm trying to highlight--it is a 
combination of links to community-authored build and install docs, 
then 2nd, the ON README and Sun-authored install information. 
>> 
>> BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions
>> 
>> <a 
>> 
href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
>> install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
>> 
>> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
>> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
>> contributions that are driving the next generation of operating 
system 
>> innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
>> www.opensolaris.org/os to get the most recent build of 
>> OpenSolaris...and check out the community documentation of build 
and 
>> installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.
>
>Be careful about using phrases like 'the most recent build of
>OpenSolaris'.  I would be very specific with words and links.  If you 
go
>to the downloads page (opensolaris.org/os/downloads), you get choices
>about downloading various pieces of source.  If you want to point 
people
>to distributions, I would specifically say that: Go to
>www.opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions to find information about
>available distributions built on top of OpenSolaris.

OK, my aim is to get folks to the bits, so I'll use your suggestion 
here to replace the original text.

--Go to 
www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get the most recent source 
files...

Does this work?

>
>If I'm not mistaken, the current build and install instructions
>available on opensolaris.org are only for the ON consolidation.  If
>that's still true, this information should be specific - point people 
to
>the downloads page for the source and to the associated build/install
>instructions for that.

OK, thanks for these changes, as stated above, I'm pointing them to a 
list of build and install instructions, not just ON.
>
>> 
>> SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
>> 
>> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
>> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
>> innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked 
out 
>
>innovation found in Solaris 10?  Because Solaris 10 has already 
shipped?
>
>> the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to www.opensolaris.org/os to get 
the 
>> most recent build of OpenSolaris code and the tools you need. Be 
sure 
>
>Again, if you're pointing people at code, say that:
>
>Go to www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to find code available for 
download.

Will do.
>
>> to check out the community documentation of build and installation 
>> processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for 
yourself 
>> at: 
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
>
>If this is for building/installing the ON consolidation, say that.

OK. Thanks again. I'll send new copy shortly.

Thanks,
Michelle



>
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:56:01 -0500
>>>From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>>Subject: Re: [osol-mktg] Review Request
>>>To: Michelle Olson <mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com>
>>>Cc: stevel at Sun.COM, Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM, 
>> 
>> Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM, Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM, 
erast at gnusolaris.org, 
>> darkjoker at gmail.com, opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org, 
>> Terri.Molini at Sun.COM, derek.cicero at Sun.COM, stephen.hahn at Sun.COM, 
>> Martin.Man at Sun.COM, blastwave at gmail.com, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, 
>> Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM, Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM, 
Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM, 
>> Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM, Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM, spp at unixsa.net
>> 
>>>MIME-version: 1.0
>>>Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT
>>>X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296
>>>User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>>
>>>Please review and send comments by end of day today.
>>>
>>>Michelle Olson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Find below the draft content for the BigAdmin and SDN monthly 
>>>>newsletters:
>>>>
>>>>BigAdmin Newsletter: [section: Community Submissions or MOTD?]
>>>>
>>>><a 
>>>>
>> 
>> 
href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
>> 
>>>>install/">Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
>>>>Check out the community documentation of build and installation 
>>>>processes for the OpenSolaris project. Community members around 
the 
>>>>globe publish documents and articles with procedural instructions, 
>>>>scripts, and cheatsheets to help you learn how to get started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
>>>>
>>>>Celebrate the first Birthday of the OpenSolaris Project with fresh 
>>>>build and installation instructions from community contributors. 
>>>>http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/instal
l
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*Any and all comments welcome on the above text or on the referred 
>>>>page content.*
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for your thoughts, I need feedback by this 
>> 
>> Thursday 
>> 
>>>>6/5/06, so I can get the text to the editor on Friday.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Michelle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:12:26 -0500
>>>>>From: Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM>
>>>>>Subject: REMINDER: OpenSolaris Anniversary meeting Thurs May 25	
>>>>
>>>>7am PT
>>>>
>>>>>To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
>>>>>Cc: OpenSolaris Marketing <opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org>, 
>> 
>> James 
>> 
>>>>Grisanzio <Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM>, Derek Cicero 
>>>><derek.cicero at Sun.COM>, Bonnie Corwin <Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM>, Dan 
>>>>Price <dp at eng.sun.com>, Stephen Lau <stevel at Sun.COM>, Ignacio 
>> 
>> Marambio 
>> 
>>>>Cat?n <darkjoker at gmail.com>, Moazam Raja <moazam at unixville.com>, 
>> 
>> Terri 
>> 
>>>>Molini <Terri.Molini at Sun.COM>, Erast Benson 
<erast at gnusolaris.org>, 
>>>>Torrey McMahon <Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM>, Darren J Moffat 
>>>><Darren.Moffat at Sun.COM>, Simon Phipps <Simon.Phipps at Sun.COM>, Rich 
>>>>Teer <rich.teer at rite-group.com>, Michelle.Olson at Sun.COM, Matt 
>>>>Ingenthron <Matt.Ingenthron at Sun.COM>, Martin.Man at Sun.COM, Kathy 
>>>>Chamberlain <Kathy.Chamberlain at Sun.COM>, Stephen Potter 
>>>><spp at unixsa.net>, Dennis Clarke <blastwave at gmail.com>, Stephen 
Hahn 
>>>><stephen.hahn at Sun.COM>, Teresa Giacomini 
<Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM>
>>>>
>>>>>MIME-version: 1.0
>>>>>X-PMX-Version: 5.1.2.240295
>>>>>User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>



From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Mon Jun  5 14:56:57 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] anniv. news content final draft for review
Message-ID: <200606052156.k55LuvZw170132@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

 BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions
 
 <a 
href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
 install/"Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
 
 It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
 OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
 contributions that are driving the next generation of operating 
system 
 innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
 www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get the most recent source 
files...and check out the community documentation of build 
and installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.


 SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
 
 It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
 OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
 innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked 
out the innovation found in Solaris 10?  --Go to 
www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get 
the most recent source code and the tools you need. Check out the 
community documentation of build and installation 
processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for 
yourself at: 
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install

Thoughts? 

Thanks,
Michelle



From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 15:06:53 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:06:53 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] anniv. news content final draft for review
In-Reply-To: <200606052156.k55LuvZw170132@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
References: <200606052156.k55LuvZw170132@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <4484AAFD.3000601@Sun.COM>

Hi Michelle,

I like this a lot.  And my apologies - I had not checked out the
doc_index page recently - it's looking really good.

Just one suggestion: "...check out the community documentation 'about'
build and installation...."  instead of 'of'.

Bonnie


Michelle Olson wrote On 06/05/06 15:56,:
>  BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions
>  
>  <a 
> href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
>  install/"Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
>  
>  It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
>  OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
>  contributions that are driving the next generation of operating 
> system 
>  innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
>  www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get the most recent source 
> files...and check out the community documentation of build 
> and installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.
> 
> 
>  SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
>  
>  It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
>  OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
>  innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked 
> out the innovation found in Solaris 10?  --Go to 
> www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get 
> the most recent source code and the tools you need. Check out the 
> community documentation of build and installation 
> processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for 
> yourself at: 
> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
> 
> Thoughts? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Mon Jun  5 16:04:17 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:04:17 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] anniv. news content final draft for review
In-Reply-To: <200606052156.k55LuvZw170132@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
References: <200606052156.k55LuvZw170132@jurassic.eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <4484B871.9080202@sun.com>


+1.

Well done.
LKR

Michelle Olson wrote:

> BigAdmin Newsletter: Community Submissions
> 
> <a 
>href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/
> install/"Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris</a>
> 
> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
> contributions that are driving the next generation of operating 
>system 
> innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to 
> www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get the most recent source 
>files...and check out the community documentation of build 
>and installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.
>
>
> SDN Network Program Newsletter: [section: Resources?]
> 
> It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
> OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
> innovation that's being included in Solaris 10. Have you checked 
>out the innovation found in Solaris 10?  --Go to 
>www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get 
>the most recent source code and the tools you need. Check out the 
>community documentation of build and installation 
>processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions. See for 
>yourself at: 
>http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install
>
>Thoughts? 
>
>Thanks,
>Michelle
>
>_______________________________________________
>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>  
>




From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de  Mon Jun  5 16:04:25 2006
From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:04:25 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
In-Reply-To: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4484B879.nailE4631UIJ8@burner>

Sara Dornsife <Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM> wrote:

...

> What do nominators get?
...

> - A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
> favorite distro - artwork is located at 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/

The needed software is here:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-2.01.01a10.tar.bz2

;-)

J?rg

-- 
 EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js at cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Mon Jun  5 16:08:16 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 19:08:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nomination : Rich Teer 
Message-ID: <4683.206.172.224.73.1149548896.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


A number of years ago, 10?, I was trying to get Solaris 2.5.1 to run
multiple Lotus Notes servers in a cluster on a SPARC Center 2000E as well as
on some Compaq Proliant 5000 servers.  I joined a newsgroup called
comp.unix.solaris.  I asked questions and I got answers.  A guy named Rich
Teer was a regular and I sa w a LOT of traffic from him.  He was some sort
guru that just knew stuff.  Lots of stuff.

Over time we got to a point where we were chatting on the phone for hours.

He has a sharp wit, a kind heart and and great mind.  He has done more for
the Solaris community over the last decade than anyone I know and he never
asks for much.  If I am a "squeaky wheel" then Rich is clearly the silent
runner who has always been there for years and years and for tons of people
when they needed help.

Here is my vote for Rich Teer.

-- 
Dennis Clarke



From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Mon Jun  5 18:21:49 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] 2nd anniv. news content update for final review
Message-ID: <200606060121.k561Ln2p383360@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

Hi all,
Thanks for all the feedback--subject line is so key :) Below, find the latest, I 
combined content from the two pieces into one and added a link to the page 
(thanks Erast!). If there are other install docs/articles out there that are not 
on the page referred below, let me know and I'll happily add them.

BigAdmin/SDN Newsletter: Community Submissions
 
  "Learn to Build and Install OpenSolaris"
 
 It's already been a year since Sun open sourced Solaris. The 
 OpenSolaris community is thriving with challenging projects and 
 contributions that are driving the next generation of operating 
system innovation. Have you checked out the OpenSolaris code yet?  --Go to  
www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads to get the most recent source files...and check 
out the community documentation about build 
and installation processes for the OpenSolaris code and distributions.
See for yourself at: 
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/documentation/doc_index/install

More thoughts? 

Thanks,
Michelle



From nameistao at gmail.com  Mon Jun  5 19:37:26 2006
From: nameistao at gmail.com (Tao Chen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:37:26 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor
	Awards
In-Reply-To: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <c90bb03e0606051937j16bf5d37j1ddeaebb6920941b@mail.gmail.com>

Here're my nominations:

Keith Wesolowski
For the precise and profound input on various important issues of OS,
both technical and non-technical.

Eric Schrock
For the amount of time/help/information he gives on various lists.

Adam Leventhal & Bryan Cantrill
For the amount of time/help/information they give on DTrace.

J?rgen Keil
For excellent techinical contribution and help on various forums.

Joerg Schilling, Erast Benson, Moinak Ghosh
For their excellent technical work on distributions

Al Hopper
For fulfiling the leader role and taking standard on important issues.

Ben Rockwood
For evangelism and contribution to docs etc. projects.

( P.S. we might get more people vote if this can be done on
opensolaris-discuss rather than opensolaris-mktg. Just a thought. )

Tao


From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 00:01:08 2006
From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:01:08 +1200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner ad is ready
In-Reply-To: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com>
References: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44852834.8030201@sun.com>

Hey,

Sara Dornsife wrote:
> You can see it and download it at:
> http://www.sun.com/cgi-bin/sun/webdesign/index_banners.cgi?item=awareness:_opensolaris_one_year_anniversary 

Okay, so I hate to be a wet fish, but this doesn't really turn me on 
very much. It doesn't even make me feel like I should be a proud member 
of the OpenSolaris community.

It's not just the slogan, it's just the style of the whole thing. 
There's no sex appeal, there's no community vibe other than Dennis' 
little verse. Seems like a stuffy corporate view rather than ZANY 
COMMUNITY ROCK AND ROLL ;)


Glynn



From benr at cuddletech.com  Tue Jun  6 00:32:05 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:32:05 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner ad is ready
In-Reply-To: <44852834.8030201@sun.com>
References: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com> <44852834.8030201@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44852F75.5000506@cuddletech.com>

Glynn Foster wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> You can see it and download it at:
>> http://www.sun.com/cgi-bin/sun/webdesign/index_banners.cgi?item=awareness:_opensolaris_one_year_anniversary 
>
>
>
> Okay, so I hate to be a wet fish, but this doesn't really turn me on 
> very much. It doesn't even make me feel like I should be a proud 
> member of the OpenSolaris community.
>
> It's not just the slogan, it's just the style of the whole thing. 
> There's no sex appeal, there's no community vibe other than Dennis' 
> little verse. Seems like a stuffy corporate view rather than ZANY 
> COMMUNITY ROCK AND ROLL ;)

I know its late in the game (I'm sorry) but I agree. You need girls with 
pink hair. :)

Personally, I still prefer the banner that would have listed the number 
of users, contributions, lines of code, etc.  That really said 
something.  If I saw this banner on a website I wouldn't notice it at all.

benr.


From Martin.Man at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 00:28:27 2006
From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:28:27 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner ad is ready
In-Reply-To: <44852834.8030201@sun.com>
References: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com> <44852834.8030201@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44852E9B.4020402@sun.com>

Hi all,

Glynn Foster wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> You can see it and download it at:
>> http://www.sun.com/cgi-bin/sun/webdesign/index_banners.cgi?item=awareness:_opensolaris_one_year_anniversary 
> 
> 
> Okay, so I hate to be a wet fish, but this doesn't really turn me on 
> very much. It doesn't even make me feel like I should be a proud member 
> of the OpenSolaris community.

well, I was just silent since I did quite some bashing over the past 
weeks, but here I have to agree with Glynn..

the first sentence that came to my mind when I saw the banner was:

How does this thing relate to OpenSolaris??

colors? words? project name? nothing....

> Glynn

just my .2 cents,
Martin


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 05:37:02 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:37:02 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Banner ad is ready
In-Reply-To: <44852F75.5000506@cuddletech.com>
References: <447F9693.6050103@sun.com> <44852834.8030201@sun.com>
	<44852F75.5000506@cuddletech.com>
Message-ID: <448576EE.8060006@sun.com>

This banner is designed specifically for the Sun web site. I mentioned 
that they weren't very dynamic. I'm pretty excited that a banner ad 
written by this community is running on the Sun web site. But I will 
give you that it doesn't actually jump out and bite you in the butt and 
get you all jazzed about the project.

We have the opportunity to swap out the one we have as well, so we can 
change it up to one about the stats. It will have a similar look and 
feel though.

We could make our own. With pink hair. I would have to get someone to 
sign off on something that includes the wordmark or TM, but if the ad is 
good (and you know it will be good) we should be able to get it pushed 
through. We have some pretty talented designers in this group.

While we are speaking of our talented designers, I have also put a 
request in with website discuss to see if we can redesign the home page 
after the anniversary. But we'll talk about that next.
Sara


Ben Rockwood wrote:
> Glynn Foster wrote:
> 
>> Hey,
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> You can see it and download it at:
>>> http://www.sun.com/cgi-bin/sun/webdesign/index_banners.cgi?item=awareness:_opensolaris_one_year_anniversary 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, so I hate to be a wet fish, but this doesn't really turn me on 
>> very much. It doesn't even make me feel like I should be a proud 
>> member of the OpenSolaris community.
>>
>> It's not just the slogan, it's just the style of the whole thing. 
>> There's no sex appeal, there's no community vibe other than Dennis' 
>> little verse. Seems like a stuffy corporate view rather than ZANY 
>> COMMUNITY ROCK AND ROLL ;)
> 
> I know its late in the game (I'm sorry) but I agree. You need girls with 
> pink hair. :)
> 
> Personally, I still prefer the banner that would have listed the number 
> of users, contributions, lines of code, etc.  That really said 
> something.  If I saw this banner on a website I wouldn't notice it at all.
> 
> benr.


From chekristo at gmail.com  Tue Jun  6 04:00:39 2006
From: chekristo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ch=C3=A9_Kristo?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 21:00:39 +1000
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nomination for Jorg Schilling
Message-ID: <108c0a9d0606060400y3e9f8c41yab4092ec187a7ae3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I would like to nominate Jorg Schilling for an OpenSolaris contributor
award.

Jorg Schilling has been a realistic voice in the OpenSolaris community, he
is not afraid to confront the issues head on and in this he provides some
form of leadership whether or not we agree with his direction. Jorg has led
the way with his own OpenSolaris distribution and also provided support to
the CDDL license by releasing his own work under the license.

Although written communication in english is not exactly Jorg's strongest
point he provides assistance to many newcomers on the opensolaris-discuss
list and more in-depth conversations on other projects. Although putbacks
and code contributions so far have been fairly limited I have noticed Jorgs
name come up as being tied to 3 or four so far.

Overall I am thankful to have someone as talented as Jorg as part of the
OpenSolaris community.

-- 
Ch? Kristo
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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 05:54:24 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:54:24 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor
	Awards
In-Reply-To: <c90bb03e0606051937j16bf5d37j1ddeaebb6920941b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
	<c90bb03e0606051937j16bf5d37j1ddeaebb6920941b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44857B00.7040009@sun.com>

I put the email out on discuss. I can try it again as a reminder.
Sara


Tao Chen wrote:
> Here're my nominations:
> 
> Keith Wesolowski
> For the precise and profound input on various important issues of OS,
> both technical and non-technical.
> 
> Eric Schrock
> For the amount of time/help/information he gives on various lists.
> 
> Adam Leventhal & Bryan Cantrill
> For the amount of time/help/information they give on DTrace.
> 
> J?rgen Keil
> For excellent techinical contribution and help on various forums.
> 
> Joerg Schilling, Erast Benson, Moinak Ghosh
> For their excellent technical work on distributions
> 
> Al Hopper
> For fulfiling the leader role and taking standard on important issues.
> 
> Ben Rockwood
> For evangelism and contribution to docs etc. projects.
> 
> ( P.S. we might get more people vote if this can be done on
> opensolaris-discuss rather than opensolaris-mktg. Just a thought. )
> 
> Tao


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Tue Jun  6 08:52:09 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nomination for Jorg Schilling
In-Reply-To: <108c0a9d0606060400y3e9f8c41yab4092ec187a7ae3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <108c0a9d0606060400y3e9f8c41yab4092ec187a7ae3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1863.206.172.224.73.1149609129.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Hi all,
>
> I would like to nominate Jorg Schilling for an OpenSolaris contributor
> award.
>
> Jorg Schilling has been a realistic voice in the OpenSolaris community, he
> is not afraid to confront the issues head on and in this he provides some
> form of leadership whether or not we agree with his direction. Jorg has led
> the way with his own OpenSolaris distribution and also provided support to
> the CDDL license by releasing his own work under the license.
>
> Although written communication in english is not exactly Jorg's strongest
> point he provides assistance to many newcomers on the opensolaris-discuss
> list and more in-depth conversations on other projects. Although putbacks
> and code contributions so far have been fairly limited I have noticed Jorgs
> name come up as being tied to 3 or four so far.
>
> Overall I am thankful to have someone as talented as Jorg as part of the
> OpenSolaris community.
>

I'll second that !

And he is a boat rocker and we need talented boat rockers in any successful
project.



-- 
Dennis Clarke



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 10:52:27 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:52:27 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] T-shirts
Message-ID: <4485C0DB.1040209@sun.com>

Final vote came in with black up by one. I have placed the order. The 
shirts will be black with the #1 on the front, the Sun logo on the 
sleeve and www.opensolaris.org on the back between the shoulder blades. 
Very cool shirts.
Sara


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 11:32:40 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:32:40 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <4485C0DB.1040209@sun.com>
References: <4485C0DB.1040209@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4485CA48.9020603@sun.com>

Uhoh, Black is not ahead. Orange is. It changed since I checked on the 
date. So.....

I guess we are going with orange.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Final vote came in with black up by one. I have placed the order. The 
> shirts will be black with the #1 on the front, the Sun logo on the 
> sleeve and www.opensolaris.org on the back between the shoulder blades. 
> Very cool shirts.
> Sara
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From tim.foster at sun.com  Tue Jun  6 11:48:51 2006
From: tim.foster at sun.com (Tim Foster)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:48:51 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <4485CA48.9020603@sun.com>
Message-ID: <31450823.1149619762184.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

> Uhoh, Black is not ahead. Orange is. It changed since
> I checked on the 
> date. So.....

Meh, a close one to call, but in the interests of fairness (and lest anyone call me biased) if it was black definitely winning on the day the vote closed, I'd say we really should go with black for this one.

That said, the *next* t-shirt we do will make for an interesting competition between the colours!!  Moazam, were the votes timestamped at all when they came in ?

 - cheers,
   tim
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From sks at cvok.co.uk  Tue Jun  6 13:13:24 2006
From: sks at cvok.co.uk (Sean Sprague)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:13:24 -0000
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <31450823.1149619762184.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <31450823.1149619762184.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <43E7ADE4.3050000@cvok.co.uk>

Tim,

> That said, the *next* t-shirt we do will make for an interesting competition between the colours!!

Should the OpenSolaris t-shirt not emphasise "open" and "transparent"? A sort of button-up, see-through waistcoat 
affair, possibly? ;-)

Not big on the "business appearance" front though :-(

Regards... Sean.


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 13:54:07 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:54:07 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] ServerWatch Awards open source community runner up
Message-ID: <4485EB6F.7060401@sun.com>

Congratulations! From Sun PR today....

Hi all:

ServerWatch posted their winners for the 2006 Product Awards. Although 
OpenSolaris did not win, it was a runner up in the Open Source Community 
Category. Below please find the full description, as well as a link to 
the article.
Best,
Liza

++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3611436

Open Source Community


We hear much about open source products and the impact they're having on 
the ways enterprises do business. Although we're not going to argue with 
this, we believe it is the project behind the product, and by extension 
the community, that differentiates a successful open source endeavor 
from the thousands of abandoned projects on SourceForge. All five of our 
nominees (Jabber, JBoss, OpenSolaris, SugarCRM, and Xen) are outstanding 
projects whose products have a place in many businesses.

There can only be one winner, however, and the Jabber community triumphed.

At its core, Jabber is a set of XML protocols for streaming 
communications. Because the Jabber protocols are standardized and freely 
available, any developer can incorporate Jabber with a compatible 
existing product. And they certainly have. Jabber is currently found in 
a host of products, both commercial and open source, including Antepo 
OPN, jabberd, Merak, and Wildfire.

Operating systems helped blaze the open source trail, and our runner-up 
is no exception to this. The OpenSolaris project, sponsored by Sun 
Microsystems, is a community built around the Solaris operating system. 
The project contains the core kernel, networking, libraries and commands 
from the Solaris OS as well as tools and community-driven off-shoots.


###



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 15:30:24 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:30:24 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Reminder: First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
In-Reply-To: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44860200.4000509@sun.com>

There was a question (and a suggestion) about resending this to the 
discuss list.

Here is a reminder that the Award nominations are coming in this week.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Based on the +1s, we are moving forward with this proposal. Get your 
> nominations in.
> 
> What is a contributor?
> You define it. There is only one category, one requirement to be the 
> recipient of one of these coveted awards: that the winner has to have 
> done something -- anything -- to the benefit of the OpenSolaris 
> community. It could be postings, code, evangelism, curriculum, blogs, 
> etc. etc. etc.
> 
> 
> How are we going to do this?
> 
> Anyone can make a nomination:
> 
> - Send your nomination email to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> - Tell us who you are nominating and why you feel he/she should receive
> an OpenSolaris Contributor Award.  Be specific.
> - The first 200 people who send in nominations will receive an 
> anniversary gift. One gift per person, but you can nominate as many 
> people as you'd like. We'll collect your address and size separately.
> 
> What do nominators get?
> - #1 T-shirt (artwork has been sent to mktg list)
> - OpenSolaris stickers (for sticking on stuff - artwork sent to mktg list)
> - OpenSolaris laptop sticker (the metalic or clear, small kind - artwork 
> sent to mktg list)
> - An OpenSolaris electrostatic cling (for your car window)
> - A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
> favorite distro - artwork is located at 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/
> 
> 
> We can take nominations from Monday June 5 through Monday June 12.
> 
> 
> Who wins?
>  From the pool of nominations that are received, the 20 most 
> contributing-est contributors will be selected. Those 20 individuals 
> will be named OpenSolaris Contributors and will receive the same gift as 
> above, plus a fancy OpenSolaris embroidered polo shirt for occasions 
> when you need to dress up. (These are an extremely limited edition, only 
> 20 will be produced.) And an OpenSolaris "space pen", for when you need 
> to write in zero gravity or under water.
> 
> 
> Who does the selecting?
> The CAB will judge which 20 members of the community will win.
> 
> 
> Where will the nominees be listed?
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
> 
> As emails come in nominating people, they will be added to this page. 
> The ones I have already gotten are posted there now.
> 
> 
> When will we know who has won?
> Winners will be posted on the anniversary ? June 14.
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Tue Jun  6 15:52:13 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:52:13 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <4485C0DB.1040209@sun.com>
References: <4485C0DB.1040209@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4486071D.8050304@sun.com>

Being a pit bi-polar today, I have finally made a decision. We are going 
to produce 500 shirts in black. BUT, we are also going to take the 
artwork and put it up on cafepress 
(http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource) so that those that don't get 
their hands on one of these can order their own, in orange if they so 
choose. The shirts will be made available at cost plus shipping and tax 
where applicable.

Gosh I hope that works. Please.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Final vote came in with black up by one. I have placed the order. The 
> shirts will be black with the #1 on the front, the Sun logo on the 
> sleeve and www.opensolaris.org on the back between the shoulder blades. 
> Very cool shirts.
> Sara
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From dp at eng.sun.com  Tue Jun  6 16:50:29 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:50:29 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] You are Invited!  Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!
Message-ID: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>


Dear friends,

You are invited to a blog party on Wednesday, June 14th to celebrate
the birthday of OpenSolaris!

I would like to initiate a grass-roots effort to blog about the first
birthday of the OpenSolaris project, and I need your help to make it a
success.  As you may know, the first birthday of the project is coming
up on June 14th, less than two weeks away.  So let's throw the baby a
blog party!

My plan is to collect additional information about this event at 

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/blogparty_06/

So I invite you to prepare (but not post yet) a blog entry for the blog
party on June 14.  Write about whatever you like.

If you want some suggestions about what to write about, here they are.
I have spent some time thinking about themes (for the launch a year ago,
our theme was roughly to "focus on the code").  To me, June 14th will
feel a bit like New Year's Day: a chance to look back at the past year,
to look forward to the new one, and to make some personal resolutions.
So to me it makes sense to focus on these core ideas:

	- Look back: What did I do in the past year?  What did the
	  community do?  What accomplishments and events mattered most
	  to me?

	- What interactions did I have this year?  Think about
	  conversations which happened both in person at conferences,
	  SUG meetings and on lists, the code, blogs, wikis,
	  #opensolaris, et cetera.   What surprising interactions did
	  I have?

	- What's possible?  What does the future look like?  And how
	  am I going to be part of it?  Do I have a new year's
	  resolution?  If we get a bunch of good resolutions, we could
	  even collect and discuss them, and maybe some good projects
	  will grow from the discussion.

And of course, I'd ask you to focus on the positive.

I plan to follow up in a couple of days with some technical details:
when to post, how to tag, et cetera.  For now, the tentative plan is
to go live with blog entries at 9:00am PST (14:00 UTC).  If you need
help setting up a blog, let me know, and I can provide you with some
resources: you'll want to get that down this week, instead of at the
last minute.

If your blog does NOT appear on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/blogs,
and you would like it to, please send mail with your RSS feed to
add-my-blog AT sun DOT com, and we'll add you.  This is the way
we'll make sure your blog entry is aggregated and archived with everyone
else's.

Thanks,

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From sks at cvok.co.uk  Tue Jun  6 16:51:08 2006
From: sks at cvok.co.uk (Sean Sprague)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:51:08 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nominations
Message-ID: <448614EC.6050707@cvok.co.uk>

Contrary to what Dennis Clarke said about Rich Teer ("sharp wit, a kind heart and and great mind" - all untrue ;-) ) my 
first nomination still goes to Rich for being a Solaris stalwart for many years, and continuing this undertaking on thru 
OpenSolaris.

My second nomination goes to Jim Grisanzio for suffering all the early pain of bringing the community together, and 
managing to keep it on a tight enough leash without throttling it in the slightest. Jim's ability to cut through the 
warble and come out with just the right level of succinctness is utterly invaluable also.



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 07:20:51 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:20:51 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <4484A232.1010607@sun.com>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com> <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
	<4483E95C.9060809@sun.com> <44844756.4030506@Sun.COM>
	<4484A232.1010607@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4486E0C3.7010603@sun.com>

OK, this is it. Thanks for your help.
Patrick. We will need ballpark numbers by Friday. Is that OK?
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Agreed, agreed, agreed.
> 
> Unless there are any objections, I will submit the following to the 
> website-discuss alias tomorrow end of day.
> 
> 
> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
> 
> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
> 
> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
>     Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
>     Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
>     Laptop    [links to laptop community]
>     DTrace [links to DTrace community]
>     ZFS [links to ZFS community]
>     Zones [links to Zones community]
> 
> 27 different projects, [links to projects page]
> 
> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
> 
> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
> 
> 5 distributions [links to distro page]
> 
> 
> This will run from June 14 - June 28th.
> Sara
> 
> 
> Bonnie Corwin wrote:
>> Patrick Finch wrote On 06/05/06 02:20,:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My thought is that the opportunity is to attract new members.  If all 
>>> our other anniversary activities are successful, we should expect a 
>>> big spike in first time or infrequent visitors to the site, and these 
>>> are the folks we would like to look around.
>>>
>>> So, this doesn't need to be too different from the existing site,
>>>
>>> For this reason, I like this:
>>>
>>>  >> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running
>>> in combination with this
>>>
>>>  >> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For 
>>> example,
>>>  >> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group community, 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if numbers are required here or not, they just serve to 
>>> highlight:
>>>
>>> eg.
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>
>>> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
>>>
>>> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
>>>     Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
>>>     Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
>>>     Laptop    [links to laptop community]
>>>     DTrace [links to DTrace community]
>>>     ZFS [links to ZFS community]
>>>     Zones [links to Zones community]
>>>     
>>> 27 different projects, [links to projects page]
>>>
>>> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
>>>
>>> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
>>>     
>>
>> I like this.
>>
>> Do we also want a line for:
>>
>> 5 distributions [link to distributions page]
>>
>>
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> I would especially highlight the Immigrants, Sys admins, Latop, 
>>> Dtrace, ZFS and Zones communities, as I think these are the ones that 
>>> will attract those with some interest.  Also, would you say "off and 
>>> running" in the US?  In, ahem, English English, I would have said "up 
>>> and running", but I'll defer as about 35% of site traffic is from the 
>>> US, 5% from the UK.
>>
>> I think 'up and running' works fine.  And I think I prefer it to 'off
>> and running'.  Still works for the 1-year-old analogy since the baby has
>> to get him/herself literally up in order to start walking.  And it works
>> for the website, the project, etc.
>>
>> Bonnie
>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page to 
>>>>> the #1. With it, we need some new content about the anniversary. I 
>>>>> threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly meeting and got some 
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. 
>>>>> Here are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may have 
>>>>> thought of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sara
>>>>>
>>>>> - "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to 
>>>>> the FUD throwers 
>>>> While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road 
>>>> and be inclusive...no need to be bitter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
>>>>> OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it certainly 
>>>>> hasn't crushed us. 
>>>> again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
>>>> celebration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For 
>>>>> example, 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group 
>>>>> community, etc. 
>>>> Okay--closer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 
>>>> Love this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Kicking ass for 12 months 
>>>>
>>>>> - More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I missed 
>>>>> something here) 
>>>> Love this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 08:03:58 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 11:03:58 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <4486E0C3.7010603@sun.com>
References: <44809177.90508@sun.com> <448093AB.2070400@sun.com>
	<4483E95C.9060809@sun.com> <44844756.4030506@Sun.COM>
	<4484A232.1010607@sun.com> <4486E0C3.7010603@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4486EADE.8050300@sun.com>



The copy--Good--why aren't we linking to Polaris and Brand Z as 
interesting communities? They are both attractive (and there will be a 
contribution of code to the polaris community from Sun Labs in the 
coming few days).

Also, let's add a link to the announcements page. That is a running 
history of the project that is really very compelling.

Derek mentioned that he would have the new page layout staged for 
review. Sounded like it will be limited to website-discuss for 
distribution-- I'd like to have that specifically cc"d to the marketing 
alias. There may be some copy changes we'd like to suggest, as well as 
fixing some duplicate copy in other places. (if that's alright)

LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> OK, this is it. Thanks for your help.
> Patrick. We will need ballpark numbers by Friday. Is that OK?
> Sara
>
>
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> Agreed, agreed, agreed.
>>
>> Unless there are any objections, I will submit the following to the 
>> website-discuss alias tomorrow end of day.
>>
>>
>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>
>> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
>>
>> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
>>     Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
>>     Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
>>     Laptop    [links to laptop community]
>>     DTrace [links to DTrace community]
>>     ZFS [links to ZFS community]
>>     Zones [links to Zones community]
>>
>> 27 different projects, [links to projects page]
>>
>> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
>>
>> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
>>
>> 5 distributions [links to distro page]
>>
>>
>> This will run from June 14 - June 28th.
>> Sara
>>
>>
>> Bonnie Corwin wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick Finch wrote On 06/05/06 02:20,:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My thought is that the opportunity is to attract new members.  If 
>>>> all our other anniversary activities are successful, we should 
>>>> expect a big spike in first time or infrequent visitors to the 
>>>> site, and these are the folks we would like to look around.
>>>>
>>>> So, this doesn't need to be too different from the existing site,
>>>>
>>>> For this reason, I like this:
>>>>
>>>>  >> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running
>>>> in combination with this
>>>>
>>>>  >> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For 
>>>> example,
>>>>  >> 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group 
>>>> community, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if numbers are required here or not, they just serve 
>>>> to highlight:
>>>>
>>>> eg.
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>>
>>>> 14,000 + members [link to registration page]
>>>>
>>>> 40 Different communities, [link to communities page] including
>>>>     Immigrants [link to immigrants community]
>>>>     Systems Administrators [link to sys admin community]
>>>>     Laptop    [links to laptop community]
>>>>     DTrace [links to DTrace community]
>>>>     ZFS [links to ZFS community]
>>>>     Zones [links to Zones community]
>>>>     27 different projects, [links to projects page]
>>>>
>>>> 29 different user groups [links to user group page]
>>>>
>>>> 30,000 downloads [links to download page]
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>> I like this.
>>>
>>> Do we also want a line for:
>>>
>>> 5 distributions [link to distributions page]
>>>
>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would especially highlight the Immigrants, Sys admins, Latop, 
>>>> Dtrace, ZFS and Zones communities, as I think these are the ones 
>>>> that will attract those with some interest.  Also, would you say 
>>>> "off and running" in the US?  In, ahem, English English, I would 
>>>> have said "up and running", but I'll defer as about 35% of site 
>>>> traffic is from the US, 5% from the UK.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think 'up and running' works fine.  And I think I prefer it to 'off
>>> and running'.  Still works for the 1-year-old analogy since the baby 
>>> has
>>> to get him/herself literally up in order to start walking.  And it 
>>> works
>>> for the website, the project, etc.
>>>
>>> Bonnie
>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the anniversary we will update the graphics on the home page 
>>>>>> to the #1. With it, we need some new content about the 
>>>>>> anniversary. I threw this idea out yesterday in our weekly 
>>>>>> meeting and got some suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to get the content to Derek by Tues at the latest. 
>>>>>> Here are the suggestions. Please also add anything new you may 
>>>>>> have thought of and we'll look again on Monday to finalize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sara
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - "They" said it couldn't be done. Something very in-your-face to 
>>>>>> the FUD throwers 
>>>>>
>>>>> While I totally understand the sentiment, Let's take the high road 
>>>>> and be inclusive...no need to be bitter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Something about how Eric Raymond said that "Linux would crush 
>>>>>> OpenSolaris" and, based on our numbers and successes, it 
>>>>>> certainly hasn't crushed us. 
>>>>>
>>>>> again, let's be nice! No need to pick a fight at our own birthday 
>>>>> celebration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - A list of our anniversary stats with links to each one. For 
>>>>>> example, 26 user groups worldwide would link to the user group 
>>>>>> community, etc. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay--closer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Most one year olds can only walk, we're off and running 
>>>>>
>>>>> Love this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Kicking ass for 12 months 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - More than 14,000 people feel great (sideline from Sara: I 
>>>>>> missed something here) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Love this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>




From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 08:41:43 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:41:43 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Contributor Awards link on OpenSolaris.org home page
Message-ID: <4486F3B7.1060109@sun.com>

The website team has agreed to link to the contributor awards on the 
home page. First the nominees, then the winners.

I would like to see a prominent visual that states OpenSolaris 
Contributor Award Nominees with a click through to the page (hopefully 
someone can help me to make that more attractive). Once the winners are 
announced, on June 14th, a new page containing the winners will be put up.

We are limited with what we can do on the homepage, so I am learning 
what the parameters are. More to come.
Sara


From wp at HawaiiLinux.us  Wed Jun  7 09:51:03 2006
From: wp at HawaiiLinux.us (W. Wayne Liauh)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:51:03 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
In-Reply-To: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <5312258.1149699105167.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

As a total Solaris outsider who otherwise would have had no business whatsoever outside the comfortable confines of Windows/Linux, I would nominate J?rg Schilling, for lighting up the word "Open" before "Solaris".
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Wed Jun  7 09:51:06 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:51:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] My nominations for the First Annual OpenSolaris
	Contributor Awards
In-Reply-To: <c90bb03e0606051937j16bf5d37j1ddeaebb6920941b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
	<c90bb03e0606051937j16bf5d37j1ddeaebb6920941b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606070938300.26178@marrakesh>

Assuming it's kosher for one of the judges to make nominations, here
are mine (with very few words of explanation), in no particular order:

Ben Rockwood - 'nuff said!

Casper Dik - for putting together frkit

Dennis Clarke - for Blastwave.org

Keith Wesolowski - for his behind the scenes work

Al Hopper - for setting up genunix.org

Rich Lowe - for his numerous code contributions

Alan Coopersmith - for his many helpful Usenet posts


That's about it (other deserving individuals have already been nominated).
Good luck to all!

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 09:57:25 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:57:25 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Update: Field marketing materials/collateral...
Message-ID: <44870575.1070200@sun.com>


**Please Note: This message is being sent to an external alias**


Quick Update--

We have  had 2 review cycles on the field materials now and are getting 
close to final drafts. Thanks to all who have contributed! and others 
who will forward comments in the next day or so... I'll have final 
package ready for posting on Sun's field materials site on 6/14.

The package includes:

General FAQ
Field FAQ (Sun Proprietary, for Field sales organization)
CDDL FAQ
CDDL Tutorial (slides and talking points about CDDL and comparative 
background on other popular open source licenses)
OpenSolaris General Datasheet
Executive Overview/Talking points
OpenSolaris Highlights
Updated OpenSolaris Customer pitch
OpenSource for the Enterprise Golden pitch (new--and in review)
Overview: Sun's Open Source Strategy  (new--and in review)

Thanks!
LKR






From Don.Traub at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 10:08:33 2006
From: Don.Traub at Sun.COM (Don Traub)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 11:08:33 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Award nomination
Message-ID: <44870811.5080602@Sun.COM>

I'd like to nominate Lisa Week, NFS engineer in Broomfield.

Lisa has worked tirelessly to form and run the Colorado Front Range 
OpenSolaris Users Group (FROSUG), despite making significant 
contributions to the NFS community through her day job.

Lisa has brought in many excellent speakers from the community to get 
the word out. She's also organized installfests to get people on board, 
not just informed.

Additionally, she's hooked this UG up with other local users groups to 
connect the dots and grow the community.

-dt
-- 
<http://www.sun.com/solaris> 	*Don Traub*
Senior Engineering Manager, Solaris Data Technology
*Sun Microsystems, Inc.*
500 Eldorado Blvd., MS UBRM05-171
Broomfield, CO. 80021
Phone x41860/303-547-3537
Cell 303-888-0683
Fax 303-272-7736
Email don.traub at sun.com <mailto:don.traub at sun.com>
<http://www.sun.com/solaris>

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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 11:35:27 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:35:27 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June
	7th 7am PT
In-Reply-To: <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
References: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com> <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44871C6F.9060006@sun.com>

Dial-in
866-545-5198
865 521-8904 (int'l)
558-7579 (participant code)

If possible, I'd like to extend tomorrow's call since it is our last one 
before the anniversary. I'll keep my eye on the clock, but keep the line 
open after 8am PT. We can have a working session to get things done.

I'd like to focus on any outstanding review cycles or open issues.

Status Update:
- CDs/DVDs pre-screened ordered, artwork posted
- Contributor Awards are underway, nominations coming in - Close June 12
- Contributor Award pointer for home page approved - Sara following up
- T-shirts are ordered
- Laptop stickers ordered
- 2"x2" stickers ordered
- #1 graphic approved for home page for 6/14
- Copy block to accompany graphic circulating on mktg alias - deadline 
fri June 9 - review Mon June 12
- Field materials on 2nd round review, will be posted on June 14
- sun.com feature article out for review deadline for input Thurs June 8
- Banner ad running on sun.com
- BigAdmin/SDN newsletter content submitted
- BigAdmin "Message of the day" for June 14
- Invitation to blog out from Dan Price

I think we are absolutely kicking butt here. Things look pretty on track 
for a celebration on the 14th.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Attending:
> Patrick Finch
> Bonnie Corwin
> Martin Man
> Terri Molini
> Rich Teer
> Teresa Giacomini
> Michelle Olson
> Tim Foster
> Laura Ramsey
> Sara Dornsife
> 
> New news:
> Martin notified us that the team in Prague had just secured 
> www.opensolaris.cz locally.
> 
> Status updates:
> Patrick - overview of Sun.com (and internally Sunweb) feature will be an 
> overview of the top 5 most important things that have been circulating 
> on the marketing list. He will look for volunteers to review and have a 
> draft ready by Tues.
> 
> Michelle - draft of the newsletter items has been circulated for 
> comment, but none have come in yet. I resent the mail during the 
> meeting. Please comment on the proposed copy, list of docs, and/or web 
> page by *close of business today (Friday June 1) CA time*. Michelle's 
> deadline is Tues of next week. Michelle is also going to find out if she 
> needs (and than get if she does) permission to link to all of those 
> things listed since they are located all over the place.
> 
> Sara - NetTalk has turned into Take 10 series. The first Take 10, 
> available for June 14, will be an overview of the project in the first 
> year. Others in the series will be lightening talks about individual 
> projects.
> 
> Action Items:
> Patrick - draft of sun.com feature by Tues 6/10
> Everyone - send Michelle comments on newsletters
> Michelle - get permission to link where needed
> Sara - send around home page copy idea email to list
> Sara - find out status of McNealy report for anniversary
> 
> Hope I caught everything.
> Sara
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> Thursdays
>> 7am PT
>>
>> Dial-in
>> 866-545-5198
>> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
>> 558-7579 (participant code)
>>
>> Agenda:
>> - Webcast -> Net Talk - Laura handing over to Sara
>> -- Ideas welcome for what to cover and who to participate. If you 
>> don't know what a Sun Net Talk is, you can check out the last one we 
>> did at 
>> https://communications.sun.com/dialog/singleeventpage.do?eventId=5341 
>> - it's good to have everyone that is participating be in the same room 
>> for taping, but it is not necessary.
>> - Field materials review - Laura Ramsey
>> - OpenSolaris home page ideas - Sara Dornsife
>> - Sun.com feature article - Patrick Finch
>> - Newsletter Review - Michelle Olson
>> - Contributor Awards - Sara Dornsife
>> - T-shirts - Sara Dornsife
>> - Roundtable - everyone
>>
>> Let me know if you have any other agenda items. Talk to you in the 
>> morning.
>> Sara
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 13:08:38 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:08:38 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June
	7th 7am PT
In-Reply-To: <44871C6F.9060006@sun.com>
References: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com> <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
	<44871C6F.9060006@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44873246.6070805@Sun.COM>

Hi Sara,

Extending the call is ok for me tomorrow.

One question - is there anything to discuss about the Take 10 talk?  Or
is it set that it's Tom doing a year in review?  Just wondering since
there wasn't clear closure on the email thread about it.

Thanks.

Bonnie

Sara Dornsife wrote On 06/07/06 12:35,:
> Dial-in
> 866-545-5198
> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
> 558-7579 (participant code)
> 
> If possible, I'd like to extend tomorrow's call since it is our last one 
> before the anniversary. I'll keep my eye on the clock, but keep the line 
> open after 8am PT. We can have a working session to get things done.
> 
> I'd like to focus on any outstanding review cycles or open issues.
> 
> Status Update:
> - CDs/DVDs pre-screened ordered, artwork posted
> - Contributor Awards are underway, nominations coming in - Close June 12
> - Contributor Award pointer for home page approved - Sara following up
> - T-shirts are ordered
> - Laptop stickers ordered
> - 2"x2" stickers ordered
> - #1 graphic approved for home page for 6/14
> - Copy block to accompany graphic circulating on mktg alias - deadline 
> fri June 9 - review Mon June 12
> - Field materials on 2nd round review, will be posted on June 14
> - sun.com feature article out for review deadline for input Thurs June 8
> - Banner ad running on sun.com
> - BigAdmin/SDN newsletter content submitted
> - BigAdmin "Message of the day" for June 14
> - Invitation to blog out from Dan Price
> 
> I think we are absolutely kicking butt here. Things look pretty on track 
> for a celebration on the 14th.
> Sara
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> 
>>Attending:
>>Patrick Finch
>>Bonnie Corwin
>>Martin Man
>>Terri Molini
>>Rich Teer
>>Teresa Giacomini
>>Michelle Olson
>>Tim Foster
>>Laura Ramsey
>>Sara Dornsife
>>
>>New news:
>>Martin notified us that the team in Prague had just secured 
>>www.opensolaris.cz locally.
>>
>>Status updates:
>>Patrick - overview of Sun.com (and internally Sunweb) feature will be an 
>>overview of the top 5 most important things that have been circulating 
>>on the marketing list. He will look for volunteers to review and have a 
>>draft ready by Tues.
>>
>>Michelle - draft of the newsletter items has been circulated for 
>>comment, but none have come in yet. I resent the mail during the 
>>meeting. Please comment on the proposed copy, list of docs, and/or web 
>>page by *close of business today (Friday June 1) CA time*. Michelle's 
>>deadline is Tues of next week. Michelle is also going to find out if she 
>>needs (and than get if she does) permission to link to all of those 
>>things listed since they are located all over the place.
>>
>>Sara - NetTalk has turned into Take 10 series. The first Take 10, 
>>available for June 14, will be an overview of the project in the first 
>>year. Others in the series will be lightening talks about individual 
>>projects.
>>
>>Action Items:
>>Patrick - draft of sun.com feature by Tues 6/10
>>Everyone - send Michelle comments on newsletters
>>Michelle - get permission to link where needed
>>Sara - send around home page copy idea email to list
>>Sara - find out status of McNealy report for anniversary
>>
>>Hope I caught everything.
>>Sara
>>
>>
>>Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>>Thursdays
>>>7am PT
>>>
>>>Dial-in
>>>866-545-5198
>>>865 521-8904 (int'l)
>>>558-7579 (participant code)
>>>
>>>Agenda:
>>>- Webcast -> Net Talk - Laura handing over to Sara
>>>-- Ideas welcome for what to cover and who to participate. If you 
>>>don't know what a Sun Net Talk is, you can check out the last one we 
>>>did at 
>>>https://communications.sun.com/dialog/singleeventpage.do?eventId=5341 
>>>- it's good to have everyone that is participating be in the same room 
>>>for taping, but it is not necessary.
>>>- Field materials review - Laura Ramsey
>>>- OpenSolaris home page ideas - Sara Dornsife
>>>- Sun.com feature article - Patrick Finch
>>>- Newsletter Review - Michelle Olson
>>>- Contributor Awards - Sara Dornsife
>>>- T-shirts - Sara Dornsife
>>>- Roundtable - everyone
>>>
>>>Let me know if you have any other agenda items. Talk to you in the 
>>>morning.
>>>Sara
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 14:21:02 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:21:02 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June
	7th 7am PT
In-Reply-To: <44873246.6070805@Sun.COM>
References: <447E0607.1060309@sun.com> <44808FAE.7070308@sun.com>
	<44871C6F.9060006@sun.com> <44873246.6070805@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <4487433E.6000709@sun.com>

Thanks for reminding me. There is no anniversary Take 10. But we still 
have the series to move forward with after the anniversary. The slot was 
taken by Solaris and sings our praises, but doesn't focus on the 
community or the anniversary.
Sara


Bonnie Corwin wrote:
> Hi Sara,
> 
> Extending the call is ok for me tomorrow.
> 
> One question - is there anything to discuss about the Take 10 talk?  Or
> is it set that it's Tom doing a year in review?  Just wondering since
> there wasn't clear closure on the email thread about it.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote On 06/07/06 12:35,:
>> Dial-in
>> 866-545-5198
>> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
>> 558-7579 (participant code)
>>
>> If possible, I'd like to extend tomorrow's call since it is our last one 
>> before the anniversary. I'll keep my eye on the clock, but keep the line 
>> open after 8am PT. We can have a working session to get things done.
>>
>> I'd like to focus on any outstanding review cycles or open issues.
>>
>> Status Update:
>> - CDs/DVDs pre-screened ordered, artwork posted
>> - Contributor Awards are underway, nominations coming in - Close June 12
>> - Contributor Award pointer for home page approved - Sara following up
>> - T-shirts are ordered
>> - Laptop stickers ordered
>> - 2"x2" stickers ordered
>> - #1 graphic approved for home page for 6/14
>> - Copy block to accompany graphic circulating on mktg alias - deadline 
>> fri June 9 - review Mon June 12
>> - Field materials on 2nd round review, will be posted on June 14
>> - sun.com feature article out for review deadline for input Thurs June 8
>> - Banner ad running on sun.com
>> - BigAdmin/SDN newsletter content submitted
>> - BigAdmin "Message of the day" for June 14
>> - Invitation to blog out from Dan Price
>>
>> I think we are absolutely kicking butt here. Things look pretty on track 
>> for a celebration on the 14th.
>> Sara
>>
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> Attending:
>>> Patrick Finch
>>> Bonnie Corwin
>>> Martin Man
>>> Terri Molini
>>> Rich Teer
>>> Teresa Giacomini
>>> Michelle Olson
>>> Tim Foster
>>> Laura Ramsey
>>> Sara Dornsife
>>>
>>> New news:
>>> Martin notified us that the team in Prague had just secured 
>>> www.opensolaris.cz locally.
>>>
>>> Status updates:
>>> Patrick - overview of Sun.com (and internally Sunweb) feature will be an 
>>> overview of the top 5 most important things that have been circulating 
>>> on the marketing list. He will look for volunteers to review and have a 
>>> draft ready by Tues.
>>>
>>> Michelle - draft of the newsletter items has been circulated for 
>>> comment, but none have come in yet. I resent the mail during the 
>>> meeting. Please comment on the proposed copy, list of docs, and/or web 
>>> page by *close of business today (Friday June 1) CA time*. Michelle's 
>>> deadline is Tues of next week. Michelle is also going to find out if she 
>>> needs (and than get if she does) permission to link to all of those 
>>> things listed since they are located all over the place.
>>>
>>> Sara - NetTalk has turned into Take 10 series. The first Take 10, 
>>> available for June 14, will be an overview of the project in the first 
>>> year. Others in the series will be lightening talks about individual 
>>> projects.
>>>
>>> Action Items:
>>> Patrick - draft of sun.com feature by Tues 6/10
>>> Everyone - send Michelle comments on newsletters
>>> Michelle - get permission to link where needed
>>> Sara - send around home page copy idea email to list
>>> Sara - find out status of McNealy report for anniversary
>>>
>>> Hope I caught everything.
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thursdays
>>>> 7am PT
>>>>
>>>> Dial-in
>>>> 866-545-5198
>>>> 865 521-8904 (int'l)
>>>> 558-7579 (participant code)
>>>>
>>>> Agenda:
>>>> - Webcast -> Net Talk - Laura handing over to Sara
>>>> -- Ideas welcome for what to cover and who to participate. If you 
>>>> don't know what a Sun Net Talk is, you can check out the last one we 
>>>> did at 
>>>> https://communications.sun.com/dialog/singleeventpage.do?eventId=5341 
>>>> - it's good to have everyone that is participating be in the same room 
>>>> for taping, but it is not necessary.
>>>> - Field materials review - Laura Ramsey
>>>> - OpenSolaris home page ideas - Sara Dornsife
>>>> - Sun.com feature article - Patrick Finch
>>>> - Newsletter Review - Michelle Olson
>>>> - Contributor Awards - Sara Dornsife
>>>> - T-shirts - Sara Dornsife
>>>> - Roundtable - everyone
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any other agenda items. Talk to you in the 
>>>> morning.
>>>> Sara
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 


From roman at ensecure.org  Wed Jun  7 16:01:46 2006
From: roman at ensecure.org (Neal Dias)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:01:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Open Solaris Contributor Award
Message-ID: <3592.69.223.153.48.1149721306.squirrel@69.223.153.48>

To Whom it May Concern,

This is Neal Dias, OpenSolaris.org username: emperor

I'd like to nominate Stephen Potter.

Stephen is the Global Solaris Product Manager for JPMorgan Chase. The very
nature of his job is to evangelize Solaris. Steve has been a tireless and
driving force within the Solaris community at JPMorgan, and in the Solaris
community at large. As one of the Banks primary Subject Matter Experts on
Solaris, Steves' drive for standards and best practices permeates
throughout the UNIX Infrastructure environment. The Solaris community at
large would be the less without his presence and contributions.

While not only the Solaris Product Manager for JPMorgan, and just
completing his Masters Degree, Steve is also on the Board of Directors of
LOPSA (League of Professional Systems Administrators), has presented an
Open Solaris talk at the Columbus Linux Users Group (COLUG) and finds the
time to be an Open Solaris Contributor with multiple code putbacks.

The man deserves an award just for having to be my manager for a year.

I'm honored to count Steve as a co-worker, mentor, and friend.

Thanks,

Neal Dias
OpenSolaris.org Registered user: emperor

roman at ensecure.org

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, 'What
should be the reward of such sacrifices?' ... If ye love wealth better
than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of
freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch
down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" --Samuel Adams



From roman at ensecure.org  Wed Jun  7 16:10:27 2006
From: roman at ensecure.org (Neal Dias)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:10:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Resend: OpenSolaris Contributor Award nomination
Message-ID: <3648.69.223.153.48.1149721827.squirrel@69.223.153.48>

I'm resending this since I wasn't subscribed to the list when I sent it.
Apologies for the double send.

I'd like to nominate Stephen Potter.

Stephen is the Global Solaris Product Manager for JPMorgan Chase. The very
nature of his job is to evangelize Solaris. Steve has been a tireless and
driving force within the Solaris community at JPMorgan, and in the Solaris
community at large. As one of the Banks primary Subject Matter Experts on
Solaris, Steves' drive for standards and best practices permeates
throughout the UNIX Infrastructure environment. The Solaris community at
large would be the less without his presence and contributions.

While not only the Solaris Product Manager for JPMorgan, and just
completing his Masters Degree, Steve is also on the Board of Directors of
LOPSA (League of Professional Systems Administrators), has presented an
Open Solaris talk at the Columbus Linux Users Group (COLUG) and finds the
time to be an Open Solaris Contributor with multiple code putbacks.

The man deserves an award just for having to be my manager for a year.

I'm honored to count Steve as a co-worker, mentor, and friend.

Thanks,

Neal Dias
OpenSolaris.org Registered user: emperor




roman at ensecure.org

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, 'What
should be the reward of such sacrifices?' ... If ye love wealth better
than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of
freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch
down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" --Samuel Adams



From dp at eng.sun.com  Wed Jun  7 16:49:13 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:49:13 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>

On Tue 06 Jun 2006 at 04:50PM, Dan Price wrote:
> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> You are invited to a blog party on Wednesday, June 14th to celebrate
> the birthday of OpenSolaris!
> 
> I would like to initiate a grass-roots effort to blog about the first
> birthday of the OpenSolaris project, and I need your help to make it a
> success.  As you may know, the first birthday of the project is coming
> up on June 14th, less than two weeks away.  So let's throw the baby a
> blog party!

So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...

To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
need to be made?

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 17:13:54 2006
From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:13:54 +1200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <44876BC2.2050606@sun.com>

Hey,

Dan Price wrote:
> So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
> about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
> trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...
> 
> To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
> need to be made?

Sounds good to me - more a case of JFDI, now that we have a date to sync 
our blog posts with. At least that's what I had planned to do.


Glynn


From dp at eng.sun.com  Wed Jun  7 19:05:01 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:05:01 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
	<c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
Message-ID: <20060608020501.GC19330@eng.sun.com>

On Wed 07 Jun 2006 at 03:11PM, David J. Orman wrote:
> 
> Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To
> explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a
> waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my
> opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their
> own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point
> is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't
> blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to
> blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad

David-- 

while I think this is a fair criticism, handling the media is something
that I am not really personally able to do (but see below...).

One other grass roots thing I am also looking at putting together is an
IRC party on #opensolaris, and looking at ways of making entering the
IRC channel for casual users easier, like a java applet or something.

> to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page,
> something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things
> are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and
> OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is
> full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure
> benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the
> community members that make our a bsolutely amazingly reliable servers
> possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to
> interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our
> systems."
> 
> However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not
> limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.

That would be awesome-- the thing you wrote is great.  I think that
I was trying only to carve off the blogging part of the birthday
effort-- there is more that hopefully will happen (I at least hope
that we'll see some news articles and stuff).  Over in the marketing
community there has been a discussion about the birthday.  I hope Sara
and/or Laura will also respond to your point about non-blogging types of
participation.

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM  Wed Jun  7 20:13:54 2006
From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:13:54 +1200
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris at OSCON
Message-ID: <448795F2.8080908@sun.com>

Hey!

We're just over a month out from this year's O'Reilly Open Source 
Convention held up in Portland, Oregon July 24th - 28th where, once 
again, OpenSolaris will have some of presence.

I figured it would be good to start throwing around plans for the event, 
and see what interest we have, and who's going to be attending. Teresa 
is keen on getting a BoF on the schedule so we need to start hashing out 
  a plan for submitting an abstract. Given my Irish roots, I'm keen for 
a pub night - besides, all the best conversations happen around beer ;)

Maybe Teresa or Sara can mention any other plans they had in the 
pipeline in terms of booths, hospitality suites, or other zany ideas [1].


Glynn

[1] At the very least we should get a set of Joyent's 'Boys are from
     LAMP, Men are from MARS' tees printed off...


From ormandj at corenode.com  Wed Jun  7 18:11:51 2006
From: ormandj at corenode.com (David J. Orman)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:11:51 -1000
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Price <dp at eng.sun.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2006 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!

> On Tue 06 Jun 2006 at 04:50PM, Dan Price wrote:
> So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
> about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
> trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...

The only people I know who blog are a few Sun-diehards (jamesd for example) and @sun people. I didn't respond because I don't blog, and nobody I know (except the previously mentioned people) blog. It's not so much a lack of interest on my part, it's just that blogging isn't how I'd handle the birthday. :) I didn't want to derail your thread, so I didn't comment.

> To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
> need to be made?

Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page, something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the community members that make our a
bsolutely amazingly reliable servers possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our systems."

However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.

Cheers,
David


From erast at gnusolaris.org  Wed Jun  7 19:09:48 2006
From: erast at gnusolaris.org (Erast Benson)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:09:48 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <1149732588.763.11.camel@myhost>

btw, could we expect man pages and locales CDDL-ed as a birthday
present? :-)

Erast

On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 16:49 -0700, Dan Price wrote:
> On Tue 06 Jun 2006 at 04:50PM, Dan Price wrote:
> > 
> > Dear friends,
> > 
> > You are invited to a blog party on Wednesday, June 14th to celebrate
> > the birthday of OpenSolaris!
> > 
> > I would like to initiate a grass-roots effort to blog about the first
> > birthday of the OpenSolaris project, and I need your help to make it a
> > success.  As you may know, the first birthday of the project is coming
> > up on June 14th, less than two weeks away.  So let's throw the baby a
> > blog party!
> 
> So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
> about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
> trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...
> 
> To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
> need to be made?
> 
>         -dp
> 



From jamesd.wi at gmail.com  Wed Jun  7 22:18:59 2006
From: jamesd.wi at gmail.com (James Dickens)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:18:59 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog
	Party on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <cd09bdd10606072218s32f67c35vd5e59113a381e55a@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/7/06, Dan Price <dp at eng.sun.com> wrote:
> On Tue 06 Jun 2006 at 04:50PM, Dan Price wrote:
> >
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > You are invited to a blog party on Wednesday, June 14th to celebrate
> > the birthday of OpenSolaris!
> >
> > I would like to initiate a grass-roots effort to blog about the first
> > birthday of the OpenSolaris project, and I need your help to make it a
> > success.  As you may know, the first birthday of the project is coming
> > up on June 14th, less than two weeks away.  So let's throw the baby a
> > blog party!
>
> So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
> about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
> trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...
>
planning to blog but been out of commission... for the last week.
still catching up.

James Dickens
uadmin.blogspot.com


> To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
> need to be made?
>
>         -dp
>
> --
> Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>


From venky.tv at sun.com  Thu Jun  8 01:39:04 2006
From: venky.tv at sun.com (Venky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:09:04 +0530
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nomination for Moinak Ghosh
Message-ID: <20060608083904.GO27079@india.sun.com>

I would like to nominate Moinak Ghosh for his outstanding work on
the BeleniX distribution and related OpenSolaris work.  I have been
interacting with the BeleniX team closely from the time Moinak
launched the project and am still amazed at the level of energy and
enthusiasm he puts into it.  Starting from the initial version which
had a minimal desktop and booted quite slowly to the latest version
which boots in under 2 minutes and has a complete KDE desktop
bundled into a single CD, it has been an amazing journey!

Moinak is a quiet worker and a lot of his work sometimes goes
unnoticed.  I would like to fix that!

Regards,
Venky.


From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 01:59:40 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:59:40 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog
	Party	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060608020501.GC19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
	<c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
	<20060608020501.GC19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <4487E6FC.9080406@sun.com>

Not preempting Laura or Sara, I'd offer that posting a blurb on your
company's website would be excellent (Sun.com will be doing something
similar), and you could possibly embelish it with a button:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/


Patrick


Dan Price wrote:
> On Wed 07 Jun 2006 at 03:11PM, David J. Orman wrote:
> 
>>Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To
>>explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a
>>waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my
>>opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their
>>own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point
>>is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't
>>blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to
>>blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad
> 
> 
> David-- 
> 
> while I think this is a fair criticism, handling the media is something
> that I am not really personally able to do (but see below...).
> 
> One other grass roots thing I am also looking at putting together is an
> IRC party on #opensolaris, and looking at ways of making entering the
> IRC channel for casual users easier, like a java applet or something.
> 
> 
>>to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page,
>>something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things
>>are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and
>>OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is
>>full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure
>>benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the
>>community members that make our a bsolutely amazingly reliable servers
>>possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to
>>interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our
>>systems."
>>
>>However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not
>>limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.
> 
> 
> That would be awesome-- the thing you wrote is great.  I think that
> I was trying only to carve off the blogging part of the birthday
> effort-- there is more that hopefully will happen (I at least hope
> that we'll see some news articles and stuff).  Over in the marketing
> community there has been a discussion about the birthday.  I hope Sara
> and/or Laura will also respond to your point about non-blogging types of
> participation.
> 
>         -dp
> 



From Ghee.Teo at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 02:10:26 2006
From: Ghee.Teo at Sun.COM (Ghee.Teo at Sun.COM)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:10:26 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
	<c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
Message-ID: <4487E982.7090402@Sun.COM>

David J. Orman wrote:

>Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page, something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the community members that make our a
>bsolutely amazingly reliable servers possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our systems."
>
>However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.
>  
>
   I feel that the sense of community is still a bit lacking here, not? 
Any celebritally event of a cummunity should be owned by all community 
members, I guess as those @sun is the initiator of OpenSolaris 
communities, so the 14th June does bear specific sentimental feelings or 
values for all who worked hard to make it happen :). So David, I would 
say do whatever you can if you feel like to celebrate the annual event 
together with the rest of the OpenSolaris communities! Do not be 
constrained by by those @sun! Your suggestion is as equally important to 
a member of the communities from Sun :)
  Rock on with whatever you can and want towrite!

-Ghee



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 06:23:39 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:23:39 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog
	Party	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <4487E6FC.9080406@sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
	<c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
	<20060608020501.GC19330@eng.sun.com> <4487E6FC.9080406@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448824DB.2030106@sun.com>


+1

Patrick Finch wrote:

>Not preempting Laura or Sara, I'd offer that posting a blurb on your
>company's website would be excellent (Sun.com will be doing something
>similar), and you could possibly embelish it with a button:
>
>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/
>
>
>Patrick
>
>
>Dan Price wrote:
>  
>
>>On Wed 07 Jun 2006 at 03:11PM, David J. Orman wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To
>>>explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a
>>>waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my
>>>opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their
>>>own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point
>>>is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't
>>>blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to
>>>blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad
>>>      
>>>
>>David-- 
>>
>>while I think this is a fair criticism, handling the media is something
>>that I am not really personally able to do (but see below...).
>>
>>One other grass roots thing I am also looking at putting together is an
>>IRC party on #opensolaris, and looking at ways of making entering the
>>IRC channel for casual users easier, like a java applet or something.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page,
>>>something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things
>>>are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and
>>>OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is
>>>full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure
>>>benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the
>>>community members that make our a bsolutely amazingly reliable servers
>>>possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to
>>>interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our
>>>systems."
>>>
>>>However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not
>>>limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.
>>>      
>>>
>>That would be awesome-- the thing you wrote is great.  I think that
>>I was trying only to carve off the blogging part of the birthday
>>effort-- there is more that hopefully will happen (I at least hope
>>that we'll see some news articles and stuff).  Over in the marketing
>>community there has been a discussion about the birthday.  I hope Sara
>>and/or Laura will also respond to your point about non-blogging types of
>>participation.
>>
>>        -dp
>>
>>    
>>
>
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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 06:34:26 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:34:26 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog
	Party	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <448824DB.2030106@sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
	<c88ead316c0e.4486ecb7@corenode.com>
	<20060608020501.GC19330@eng.sun.com> <4487E6FC.9080406@sun.com>
	<448824DB.2030106@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44882762.2000102@sun.com>

I'm having graphic issues with the #1. Anyone have any qualifications 
here? But I would recommend you use that. It is a fan button in the 
shape of a 1 to represent the year anniversary. And I have to say David, 
I love what you wrote.
Sara


Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> Patrick Finch wrote:
>> Not preempting Laura or Sara, I'd offer that posting a blurb on your
>> company's website would be excellent (Sun.com will be doing something
>> similar), and you could possibly embelish it with a button:
>>
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> Dan Price wrote:
>>   
>>> On Wed 07 Jun 2006 at 03:11PM, David J. Orman wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>> Add something to your proposal that doesn't involve blogging. To
>>>> explain, some people (such as myself) generally thing blogs are a
>>>> waste of space on the internet. Of course, that is completely my
>>>> opinion, and quite obviously a lot of people disagree. To each their
>>>> own! This isn't intended to start an argument, please don't. The point
>>>> is, I am excluded from your grassroots b-day movement, because I don't
>>>> blog/don't condone blogging. I would suggest instead of limiting it to
>>>> blogging, you open it up to other areas. News sites, etc. I'd be glad
>>>>       
>>> David-- 
>>>
>>> while I think this is a fair criticism, handling the media is something
>>> that I am not really personally able to do (but see below...).
>>>
>>> One other grass roots thing I am also looking at putting together is an
>>> IRC party on #opensolaris, and looking at ways of making entering the
>>> IRC channel for casual users easier, like a java applet or something.
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>> to put a little blurb about the birthday on my business's main page,
>>>> something like: "We run Solaris and wanted to point out how far things
>>>> are progressing with the OpenSolaris community, it's been a year and
>>>> OpenSolaris is still gaining momentum. The OpenSolaris community is
>>>> full of innovation and technical capability, and our infrastructure
>>>> benefits greatly! We want to take the time to thank all of the
>>>> community members that make our a bsolutely amazingly reliable servers
>>>> possible, and let all of our clients know that we will continue to
>>>> interact and work with the OpenSolaris community to keep improving our
>>>> systems."
>>>>
>>>> However, you want to write it, something like this. The key is not
>>>> limiting the scope of the grassroots movement you suggest we start.
>>>>       
>>> That would be awesome-- the thing you wrote is great.  I think that
>>> I was trying only to carve off the blogging part of the birthday
>>> effort-- there is more that hopefully will happen (I at least hope
>>> that we'll see some news articles and stuff).  Over in the marketing
>>> community there has been a discussion about the birthday.  I hope Sara
>>> and/or Laura will also respond to your point about non-blogging types of
>>> participation.
>>>
>>>         -dp
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>   
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From rmilkowski at task.gda.pl  Thu Jun  8 06:47:31 2006
From: rmilkowski at task.gda.pl (Robert Milkowski)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 15:47:31 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re[2]: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog
	Party on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
	<20060607234913.GB19330@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <10210453469.20060608154731@task.gda.pl>

Hello Dan,

Thursday, June 8, 2006, 1:49:13 AM, you wrote:

DP> On Tue 06 Jun 2006 at 04:50PM, Dan Price wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> You are invited to a blog party on Wednesday, June 14th to celebrate
>> the birthday of OpenSolaris!
>> 
>> I would like to initiate a grass-roots effort to blog about the first
>> birthday of the OpenSolaris project, and I need your help to make it a
>> success.  As you may know, the first birthday of the project is coming
>> up on June 14th, less than two weeks away.  So let's throw the baby a
>> blog party!

DP> So... 24 hours gone by and I've heard (privately) from only one person
DP> about this proposal.  Is anyone planning to blog on the 14th?  I'm
DP> trying to gauge the apparent lack of interest...

DP> To ask it another way: if what I proposed isn't good, what adjustments
DP> need to be made?

I'll definitely blog - not sure what exactly but at least some small
note, probably also my impressions, etc.

-- 
Best regards,
 Robert                            mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl
                                       http://milek.blogspot.com



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 08:03:58 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:03:58 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Copy for anniversary banner on home page
Message-ID: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com>

Derek,
Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he give 
you those?

Thanks,
Sara



Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:

14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]

40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
including
     Device Drivers 
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]

28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]

29 different user groups 
[ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]

33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]

5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]


From spp at unixsa.net  Thu Jun  8 08:33:56 2006
From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:33:56 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <4484A232.1010607@sun.com>
Message-ID: <100018.1149780866596.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and
> running:

Is it too late for a minor word change?

Most one year olds can *barely* walk

-spp
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Thu Jun  8 09:02:46 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:02:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <100018.1149780866596.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <100018.1149780866596.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606080902340.29036@marrakesh>

On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Stephen Potter wrote:

> > Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and
> > running:
> 
> Is it too late for a minor word change?
> 
> Most one year olds can *barely* walk

I like that!

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 10:09:55 2006
From: Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM (Teresa Giacomini)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:09:55 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606080902340.29036@marrakesh>
References: <100018.1149780866596.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606080902340.29036@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <448859E3.6040503@Sun.COM>

Me too.  And I had another little nit...in one case Different is 
capitalized, and in others it's not...

Rich Teer wrote On 06/08/06 09:02,:

>On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Stephen Potter wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and
>>>running:
>>>      
>>>
>>Is it too late for a minor word change?
>>
>>Most one year olds can *barely* walk
>>    
>>
>
>I like that!
>
>  
>


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 11:14:23 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:14:23 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606080902340.29036@marrakesh>
References: <100018.1149780866596.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606080902340.29036@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <448868FF.3090809@sun.com>

Me too. Thanks Stephen.

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Stephen Potter wrote:
> 
>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and
>>> running:
>> Is it too late for a minor word change?
>>
>> Most one year olds can *barely* walk
> 
> I like that!
> 


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun  8 11:16:44 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:16:44 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Copy for anniversary banner on home page
In-Reply-To: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4488698C.7030208@sun.com>

Suggested copy change - Most one year olds can barely walk - we're up 
and running.

Thanks,
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Derek,
> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
> Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he give 
> you those?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sara
> 
> 
> 
> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
> 
> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
> 
> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
> including
>     Device Drivers 
> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
> 
> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
> 
> 29 different user groups 
> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
> 
> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
> 
> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From michelle.olson at sun.com  Thu Jun  8 17:43:01 2006
From: michelle.olson at sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:43:01 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Contributor award nominations
Message-ID: <12391734.1149813811504.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

Hi,

I'd like to nominate the following community members for a Contributor award:

-Glenn Herteg for his contribution to IPFilter documentation and feedback on IPFilter code implementation.

-Ben Rockwood for his leadership and contributions to the Documentation Community including the wiki, Subversion repository, and migration documentation.

-Rainer Heilke for his leadership of the Documentation Community and contributions to the Documentation Style Guidelines and Big Doc List pages.

Thanks,
Michelle
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From dp at eng.sun.com  Thu Jun  8 20:13:06 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:13:06 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] IRC chat in the website: prototype
Message-ID: <20060609031306.GA28895@eng.sun.com>


[Resend: forgot to CC opensolaris-mktg]

I want to point folks to a quick and dirty prototype I did of
integrating IRC chat directly into the website.

I was thinking that this (in some similar form) might be useful for the
birthday celebration.

There is no error checking, and my javascript hacking skills are
not strong, so be gentle.  Here it is:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/test/

N.B.: If you are a Sun employee on the SWAN, or behind a restrictive
firewall, this won't work right.  Try viewing it from a non-firewalled
internet connection.

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 02:48:03 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:48:03 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Contributor award nominations
Message-ID: <448943D3.8070209@sun.com>

I'd like to nominate

Joey Guo
	For his great efforts with the acadmic community in China.  19 
universities in China have committed to using OpenSolaris in their 
academic curriculum next year: sewing the seeds for the project for many 
years to come.

Stephen Lau
	For his great work in producing various different ISOs of distros and 
code, fulfilling a big need.  And his incredible patience and good nature!

Michelle Olsen
	For the very successful "Introduction to Operating Systems: a hands on 
approach using the OpenSolaris project", produced in double-quick time.








From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 07:27:00 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:27:00 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44898534.5040009@sun.com>

Hi,

Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.

regards

Patrick



14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]

40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
including
     Device Drivers 
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]

31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]

29 different user groups 
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]

33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]

5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]



Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Derek,
> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
> Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he give 
> you those?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sara
> 
> 
> 
> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
> 
> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
> 
> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
> including
>     Device Drivers 
> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
> 
> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
> 
> 29 different user groups 
> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
> 
> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
> 
> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
> _______________________________________________
> website-discuss mailing list
> website-discuss at opensolaris.org


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 07:40:05 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:40:05 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44898845.80600@sun.com>

Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so great 
with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making the 
anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more information 
about the anniversary and the project.

Thoughts?
Sara


Patrick Finch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
> that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
> 
> regards
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
> 
> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
> including
>     Device Drivers 
> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
> 
> 31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
> 
> 29 different user groups 
> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
> 
> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
> 
> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
> 
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> Derek,
>> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
>> Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he 
>> give you those?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sara
>>
>>
>>
>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>
>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>
>> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
>> including
>>     Device Drivers 
>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>
>> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>
>> 29 different user groups 
>> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>
>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>
>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>> _______________________________________________
>> website-discuss mailing list
>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org


From Jayakara.Kini at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 07:38:14 2006
From: Jayakara.Kini at Sun.COM (Jayakara Kini [HOME])
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:08:14 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0606091943340.3169@xnvynfu>



Hi,

I have a few nominations:

1: Barbara Corwin, Karyn Ritter & James Grisanzio
=================================================

     I would like to nominate Barbara Corwin, Karyn Ritter & James Grisanzio
   for all the efforts they have put it to make opensolaris a success.

     Barbara (Bonnie) has been involved right from the time the code sweep
   for ON source started.  They have provided all the framework for making
   the life of all the external contributor very easy.  The website is
   uptodate with the current status of all the contributions.  It also has
   very detailed documentation for Sponsors, Contributors and visitors.

     I know all this from the minimal interaction.  So, I believe their
   efforts are much more than just this.

2: Moinak Ghosh
===============

     Moinak's work on Belenix is well known.  His efforts and enthusiam is
   everlasting.  He has also been involved in making a host of applications
   available (players, games, utilities, etc) for x86/x64 based systems.

3: Sumitha Prashanth
====================

     Sumitha has been very enthusiastic about evangelising Solaris.  She is
   co-ordinating with marketing and engineering and arranging talks and
   demos for our customers.  She co-ordinated FOSS.in (http://foss.in/2005/)
   event in Bangalore and the VTU presentation session that was broadcasted
   over sattelite across Karnataka.  She is also evangelising Solaris in
   Universities and Colleges.

Regards,
Jayakara Kini



From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 07:54:58 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:54:58 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44898845.80600@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44898BC2.8070908@Sun.COM>

Sara Dornsife wrote On 06/09/06 08:40,:
> Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so great 
> with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making the 
> anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more information 
> about the anniversary and the project.

This makes a lot of sense - and it sounds like it will make the copy on
the front page much cleaner.

Bonnie

> 
> Thoughts?
> Sara
> 
> 
> Patrick Finch wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
>>that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>
>>40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
>>including
>>    Device Drivers 
>>[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>    Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>    Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>    Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>    ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>    Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>
>>31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>
>>29 different user groups 
>>[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>
>>33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>
>>5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>
>>
>>
>>Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>>Derek,
>>>Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
>>>Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he 
>>>give you those?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Sara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>
>>>14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>
>>>40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
>>>including
>>>    Device Drivers 
>>>[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>    Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>    Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>    Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>    ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>    Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>
>>>28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>
>>>29 different user groups 
>>>[ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>
>>>33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>
>>>5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>website-discuss mailing list
>>>website-discuss at opensolaris.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> website-discuss mailing list
> website-discuss at opensolaris.org



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:03:50 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:03:50 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44898BC2.8070908@Sun.COM>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898BC2.8070908@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <44898DD6.1020900@sun.com>

Another, and better, and more doable solution (thanks Patrick) would be 
to change the way we are doing the text links.

For Example
14,000 + members <Join Now> [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]

40 Different communities <Browse/Join> 
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/]
including:
     Device Drivers
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]

31 Different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]

29 user groups worldwide <Find or Start a User Group in Your Area> 
[http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]

33,000 downloads <Download Now> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]

5 distributions <See Which Distribution is Right for You> 
[http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]

Sara


Bonnie Corwin wrote:
> Sara Dornsife wrote On 06/09/06 08:40,:
>> Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so great 
>> with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making the 
>> anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more information 
>> about the anniversary and the project.
> 
> This makes a lot of sense - and it sounds like it will make the copy on
> the front page much cleaner.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
>> Thoughts?
>> Sara
>>
>>
>> Patrick Finch wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
>>> that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>
>>> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
>>> including
>>>    Device Drivers 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>    Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>    Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>    Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>    ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>    Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>
>>> 31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>
>>> 29 different user groups 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>
>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>
>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Derek,
>>>> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the anniversary. 
>>>> Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How late can he 
>>>> give you those?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>>
>>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>>
>>>> 40 Different communities, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] 
>>>> including
>>>>    Device Drivers 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>>    Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>>    Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>>    Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>>    ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>>    Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>>
>>>> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>>
>>>> 29 different user groups 
>>>> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>>
>>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>>
>>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> website-discuss mailing list
>>>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> website-discuss mailing list
>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org
> 


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:11:16 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:11:16 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44898845.80600@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44898F94.10302@sun.com>


Is there a link to the staged page so we can review and comment?
LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so great 
> with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making the 
> anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more 
> information about the anniversary and the project.
>
> Thoughts?
> Sara
>
>
> Patrick Finch wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
>> that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>
>> 40 Different communities, 
>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>     Device Drivers 
>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>
>> 31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>
>> 29 different user groups 
>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>
>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>
>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>
>>
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> Derek,
>>> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the 
>>> anniversary. Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How 
>>> late can he give you those?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>
>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>
>>> 40 Different communities, 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>>     Device Drivers 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>
>>> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>
>>> 29 different user groups 
>>> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>
>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>
>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> website-discuss mailing list
>>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:16:01 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:16:01 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448990B1.2080403@sun.com>

The link was in a chat window which is now gone, so we'll have to wait 
for Derek to get in this morning.

Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Is there a link to the staged page so we can review and comment?
> LKR
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
> 
>> Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so great 
>> with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making the 
>> anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more 
>> information about the anniversary and the project.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Sara
>>
>>
>> Patrick Finch wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, assuming 
>>> that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>
>>> 40 Different communities, 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>>     Device Drivers 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>
>>> 31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>
>>> 29 different user groups 
>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>
>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>
>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Derek,
>>>> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the 
>>>> anniversary. Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. How 
>>>> late can he give you those?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>>
>>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>>
>>>> 40 Different communities, 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>>>     Device Drivers 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>>
>>>> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>>
>>>> 29 different user groups 
>>>> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>>
>>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>>
>>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> website-discuss mailing list
>>>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> 
> 
> 


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:23:53 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:23:53 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44899289.2090708@sun.com>


Okay--let's go ahead and start posting the url for the staged site to 
the marketing alias so process is inclusive.

LKR


Sara Dornsife wrote:

> The link was in a chat window which is now gone, so we'll have to wait 
> for Derek to get in this morning.
>
> Laura Ramsey wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there a link to the staged page so we can review and comment?
>> LKR
>>
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> Derek and I were working on this last night. It doesn't look so 
>>> great with the all the copy being hot links. We talked about making 
>>> the anniversary banner link off to a landing page that gave more 
>>> information about the anniversary and the project.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Finch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Slight change to these figures -  I'm counting 31 projects, 
>>>> assuming that CIFS client is set up by Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>>
>>>> 40 Different communities, 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>>>     Device Drivers 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>>     Performance [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>>
>>>> 31 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>>
>>>> 29 different user groups 
>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>>
>>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>>
>>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Derek,
>>>>> Below is the copy we would like on the home page for the 
>>>>> anniversary. Patrick will update any numbers that need updating. 
>>>>> How late can he give you those?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sara
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most one year olds can only walk -we're up and running:
>>>>>
>>>>> 14,000 + members [https://www.opensolaris.org/register.jspa]
>>>>>
>>>>> 40 Different communities, 
>>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/communities/] including
>>>>>     Device Drivers 
>>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/]
>>>>>     Laptop    [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/]
>>>>>     Performance 
>>>>> [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/]
>>>>>     Security [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/]
>>>>>     ZFS [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/]
>>>>>     Zones [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/]
>>>>>
>>>>> 28 different projects, [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/#all]
>>>>>
>>>>> 29 different user groups 
>>>>> [ttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/]
>>>>>
>>>>> 33,000 downloads [http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads]
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 distributions [http://opensolaris.org/os/about/distributions]
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> website-discuss mailing list
>>>>> website-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>>
>>
>>




From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:21:11 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:21:11 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
Message-ID: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>

Attached is a PDF that shows the front and back of the anniversary tshirt.
Sara
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From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Fri Jun  9 08:36:06 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com> <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:

> Okay--let's go ahead and start posting the url for the staged site to the
> marketing alias so process is inclusive.

Hopefully a link that is accessible outside the SWAN...

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:38:30 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:38:30 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <448995F6.9030706@sun.com>

Nope....

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
>> Okay--let's go ahead and start posting the url for the staged site to the
>> marketing alias so process is inclusive.
> 
> Hopefully a link that is accessible outside the SWAN...
> 


From Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:46:03 2006
From: Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM (Karyn Ritter)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:46:03 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <448997BB.1050702@sun.com>

In the (hopefully not-to-distant) future the staging server will be 
outside of SWAN. We've got some other changes we need to make first, 
though: the current infrastructure model doesn't support an external 
staging server.

Thanks,

Karyn

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> 
>>Okay--let's go ahead and start posting the url for the staged site to the
>>marketing alias so process is inclusive.
> 
> 
> Hopefully a link that is accessible outside the SWAN...
> 


From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Fri Jun  9 08:47:42 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Sara Dornsife wrote:

> Nope....

Bummer.  Kinda makes the issue of the process being inclusive moot...

Unless there's Sun confidential stuff in the material, is there a
reason (apart from lack of time) why the review copy can't be posted
somewhere on opensolaris.org?  If not, then I think that for future
endeavours of this type, we should have some sort of publically
accessible staging area (a non-intuitive URL would be OK).

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun  9 08:49:23 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:49:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
Message-ID: <60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Attached is a PDF that shows the front and back of the anniversary tshirt.
> Sara

why does the back not have the "standard" orange and blue colours ?

-- 
Dennis Clarke



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:51:45 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:51:45 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <44899911.5060702@sun.com>

It is for me. What are you seeing?

Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> Attached is a PDF that shows the front and back of the anniversary tshirt.
>> Sara
> 
> why does the back not have the "standard" orange and blue colours ?
> 


From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 08:59:02 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:59:02 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM>

I think this should be pretty easy.

Sara and Derek were trying to implement what we asked for last night -
ran into problems and made some decisions.

I think we just want to ask Derek to put the result on a page in the
marketing community so people can see it.

Sara - I assume you'll be sync'ing up with him this morning, so please
make sure I'm right that it shouldn't be a big deal to let people see
what it looks like after you've changed the links.

Does this work?

Thanks.

Bonnie





Rich Teer wrote On 06/09/06 09:47,:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Sara Dornsife wrote:
> 
> 
>>Nope....
> 
> 
> Bummer.  Kinda makes the issue of the process being inclusive moot...
> 
> Unless there's Sun confidential stuff in the material, is there a
> reason (apart from lack of time) why the review copy can't be posted
> somewhere on opensolaris.org?  If not, then I think that for future
> endeavours of this type, we should have some sort of publically
> accessible staging area (a non-intuitive URL would be OK).
> 



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 09:02:03 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:02:03 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>

Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
Sara


Bonnie Corwin wrote:
> I think this should be pretty easy.
> 
> Sara and Derek were trying to implement what we asked for last night -
> ran into problems and made some decisions.
> 
> I think we just want to ask Derek to put the result on a page in the
> marketing community so people can see it.
> 
> Sara - I assume you'll be sync'ing up with him this morning, so please
> make sure I'm right that it shouldn't be a big deal to let people see
> what it looks like after you've changed the links.
> 
> Does this work?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rich Teer wrote On 06/09/06 09:47,:
>> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nope....
>>
>> Bummer.  Kinda makes the issue of the process being inclusive moot...
>>
>> Unless there's Sun confidential stuff in the material, is there a
>> reason (apart from lack of time) why the review copy can't be posted
>> somewhere on opensolaris.org?  If not, then I think that for future
>> endeavours of this type, we should have some sort of publically
>> accessible staging area (a non-intuitive URL would be OK).
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun  9 09:04:48 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <44899911.5060702@sun.com>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899911.5060702@sun.com>
Message-ID: <60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> It is for me. What are you seeing?
>
> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>> Attached is a PDF that shows the front and back of the anniversary
>>> tshirt.
>>> Sara
>>
>> why does the back not have the "standard" orange and blue colours ?
>>


http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/shirt_back.png

-- 
Dennis Clarke



From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun  9 09:10:34 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:10:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner 
	on home page
In-Reply-To: <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com> <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh> <448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh> <44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM>
	<44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
Message-ID: <60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
> Sara
>
>

Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?

I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.


-- 
Dennis Clarke



From Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 09:12:13 2006
From: Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM (Karyn Ritter)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:12:13 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM> <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
	<60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <44899DDD.50904@sun.com>

Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on the 
website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I sent my 
email about the staging server itself. :)

- Karyn

Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>Sara
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?
> 
> I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.
> 
> 


From derek.cicero at sun.com  Fri Jun  9 10:15:19 2006
From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 10:15:19 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
	on	home page
In-Reply-To: <44899DDD.50904@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com> <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM> <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
	<60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899DDD.50904@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4489ACA7.1010009@sun.com>

Karyn Ritter wrote:

> Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on the 
> website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I sent 
> my email about the staging server itself. :)

Ok, let's not all get too worked up in here. ;)

I am working on this but I don't get the proper artwork until yesterday 
afternoon. Once I have something that looks close I will make a screen 
grab and post it in the marketing community, (probably before noon PST).

Derek

>
> - Karyn
>
> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>
>>> Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?
>>
>> I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>



-- 
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 10:33:00 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:33:00 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899911.5060702@sun.com>
	<60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <4489B0CC.9020108@sun.com>

That is the right blue. It looks different on a white background than a 
black, but the PMS colors will be the same on the shirt.
Sara


Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> It is for me. What are you seeing?
>>
>> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>>> Attached is a PDF that shows the front and back of the anniversary
>>>> tshirt.
>>>> Sara
>>> why does the back not have the "standard" orange and blue colours ?
>>>
> 
> 
> http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/shirt_back.png
> 


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun  9 11:13:57 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <4489B0CC.9020108@sun.com>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899911.5060702@sun.com>
	<60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<4489B0CC.9020108@sun.com>
Message-ID: <61040.65.95.197.201.1149876837.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> That is the right blue. It looks different on a white background than a
> black, but the PMS colors will be the same on the shirt.
> Sara
>

but ..

but ....

where is the orange ?

isn't it supposed to be

[orange font]open[end of orange font][blue font]solaris[end of blue font]

Dennis



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 11:57:12 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:57:12 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <61040.65.95.197.201.1149876837.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899911.5060702@sun.com>
	<60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<4489B0CC.9020108@sun.com>
	<61040.65.95.197.201.1149876837.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
Message-ID: <4489C488.4010301@sun.com>

OOOHHHH.....

No. It's not the wordmark, it's just text that will go on the back 
between the shoulder blades.
Sara


Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> That is the right blue. It looks different on a white background than a
>> black, but the PMS colors will be the same on the shirt.
>> Sara
>>
> 
> but ..
> 
> but ....
> 
> where is the orange ?
> 
> isn't it supposed to be
> 
> [orange font]open[end of orange font][blue font]solaris[end of blue font]
> 
> Dennis
> 


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun  9 12:16:19 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:16:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary Tshirt design
In-Reply-To: <4489C488.4010301@sun.com>
References: <448991E7.90300@sun.com>
	<60584.65.95.197.201.1149868163.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899911.5060702@sun.com>
	<60613.65.95.197.201.1149869088.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<4489B0CC.9020108@sun.com>
	<61040.65.95.197.201.1149876837.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<4489C488.4010301@sun.com>
Message-ID: <2261.209.226.150.158.1149880579.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> OOOHHHH.....
>
> No. It's not the wordmark, it's just text that will go on the back
> between the shoulder blades.

ah geez ...

(1) open hand
(2) palm up
(3) smack forehead sharply
(4) goto (3)




From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 13:50:16 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:50:16 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] DEADLINE June 12 First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor
	Awards
In-Reply-To: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4489DF08.2080801@sun.com>

Just a reminder that the nominations close at the end of day Monday June 
12 (CA time). Winners will be announced on June 14.

Send nominations to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org.

Sara

Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Based on the +1s, we are moving forward with this proposal. Get your 
> nominations in.
> 
> What is a contributor?
> You define it. There is only one category, one requirement to be the 
> recipient of one of these coveted awards: that the winner has to have 
> done something -- anything -- to the benefit of the OpenSolaris 
> community. It could be postings, code, evangelism, curriculum, blogs, 
> etc. etc. etc.
> 
> 
> How are we going to do this?
> 
> Anyone can make a nomination:
> 
> - Send your nomination email to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> - Tell us who you are nominating and why you feel he/she should receive
> an OpenSolaris Contributor Award.  Be specific.
> - The first 200 people who send in nominations will receive an 
> anniversary gift. One gift per person, but you can nominate as many 
> people as you'd like. We'll collect your address and size separately.
> 
> What do nominators get?
> - #1 T-shirt (artwork has been sent to mktg list)
> - OpenSolaris stickers (for sticking on stuff - artwork sent to mktg list)
> - OpenSolaris laptop sticker (the metalic or clear, small kind - artwork 
> sent to mktg list)
> - An OpenSolaris electrostatic cling (for your car window)
> - A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
> favorite distro - artwork is located at 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/
> 
> 
> We can take nominations from Monday June 5 through Monday June 12.
> 
> 
> Who wins?
>  From the pool of nominations that are received, the 20 most 
> contributing-est contributors will be selected. Those 20 individuals 
> will be named OpenSolaris Contributors and will receive the same gift as 
> above, plus a fancy OpenSolaris embroidered polo shirt for occasions 
> when you need to dress up. (These are an extremely limited edition, only 
> 20 will be produced.) And an OpenSolaris "space pen", for when you need 
> to write in zero gravity or under water.
> 
> 
> Who does the selecting?
> The CAB will judge which 20 members of the community will win.
> 
> 
> Where will the nominees be listed?
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
> 
> As emails come in nominating people, they will be added to this page. 
> The ones I have already gotten are posted there now.
> 
> 
> When will we know who has won?
> Winners will be posted on the anniversary ? June 14.
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From derek.cicero at sun.com  Fri Jun  9 15:18:01 2006
From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:18:01 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
	on	home page
In-Reply-To: <44899DDD.50904@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com> <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM> <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
	<60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899DDD.50904@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>

Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)

After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some great 
suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are two screen 
shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. Comments are 
very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't guarantee how much 
alteration we can do.

I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.

Derek

Karyn Ritter wrote:

> Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on the 
> website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I sent 
> my email about the staging server itself. :)
>
> - Karyn
>
> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>
>>> Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>> Sara
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?
>>
>> I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>



-- 
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division
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From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 16:13:20 2006
From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:13:20 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
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Message-ID: <448A0090.7040609@sun.com>

Derek Cicero wrote:
> Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)
> 
> After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some great 
> suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are two screen 
> shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. Comments are 
> very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't guarantee how much 
> alteration we can do.
> 
> I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.


Nice job. I like the code in screened black type with the white 
background much better. The original is too big and powerful and too 
black, especially with the big black headline that reads too much like 
an ad (though I like it as an ad, I'm not sure it works for a developer 
site on the front page). And I like how you re-worked the copy in the 
screened version, as well. Keep in mind that the "78 contributions" is 
request-sponsor code only; we have way more general contributions than 
78 if we added up everything.

Jim



From dp at eng.sun.com  Fri Jun  9 16:22:17 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:22:17 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
	on	home page
In-Reply-To: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
References: <448990B1.2080403@sun.com> <44899289.2090708@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM> <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
	<60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899DDD.50904@sun.com> <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
Message-ID: <20060609232217.GA829@eng.sun.com>

On Fri 09 Jun 2006 at 03:18PM, Derek Cicero wrote:
> Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)
> 
> After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some great 
> suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are two screen 
> shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. Comments are 
> very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't guarantee how much 
> alteration we can do.
> 
> I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.

To be clear, Derek and I did the best we could with a strange
piece of graphics editing software.  Oh, to have inkscape!

Anyway, here are my graphical nits with what we came up with-- I'd
hope that a good graphic designer could smooth the rough edges in
our design.  See attached image, which is annotated.

Something else I forgot to note on the image: the fonts for "innovation"
"happens" "everywhere" are ever so slightly too small.

The orange may be a little too unsaturated as well.

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp
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From mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com  Fri Jun  9 16:32:10 2006
From: mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (Michelle Olson)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
Message-ID: <200606092332.k59NWAe6658719@jurassic.eng.sun.com>

GReat job on these! I like option2 the best. 

-Michelle

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>Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)
>
>After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some 
great 
>suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are two 
screen 
>shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. Comments 
are 
>very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't guarantee how much 
>alteration we can do.
>
>I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.
>
>Derek
>
>Karyn Ritter wrote:
>
>> Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on 
the 
>> website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I 
sent 
>> my email about the staging server itself. :)
>>
>> - Karyn
>>
>> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>>>> Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required 
?
>>>
>>> I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real 
easy.
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Derek Cicero
>Program Manager
>Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division



From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 17:49:50 2006
From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:49:50 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party
	on June 14th!
In-Reply-To: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
References: <20060606235029.GA19272@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <448A172E.601@sun.com>

Dan Price wrote:

> If your blog does NOT appear on http://www.opensolaris.org/os/blogs,
> and you would like it to, please send mail with your RSS feed to
> add-my-blog AT sun DOT com, and we'll add you.  This is the way
> we'll make sure your blog entry is aggregated and archived with everyone
> else's.

Thanks for this, Dan. I'll have a blog ready to go for sure. Also, I 
added a few blogs to opensolaris.org today that came in after your 
reminder mail.

Thanks,

Jim



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun  9 17:13:56 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:13:56 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
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Thanks for doing this! it's so cool!

As much as I love the slogan "most one year olds ..."

I think the Celebrate layout is awesome. Can it be done in Black? for a 
little (alotta) better contrast.

And, I hate to lose the list of cool projects...how about those as links 
along the bottom of the 1.

Sounds like alot of changes I know.

LKR





Derek Cicero wrote:

> Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)
>
> After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some 
> great suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are 
> two screen shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. 
> Comments are very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't 
> guarantee how much alteration we can do.
>
> I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.
>
> Derek
>
> Karyn Ritter wrote:
>
>> Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on the 
>> website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I sent 
>> my email about the staging server itself. :)
>>
>> - Karyn
>>
>> Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>>>> Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>>> Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?
>>>
>>> I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
>
>
>
>
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From Jayakara.Kini at Sun.COM  Sat Jun 10 04:36:55 2006
From: Jayakara.Kini at Sun.COM (Jayakara Kini)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 17:06:55 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Slight changes to the text for earlier nominations
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0606101659390.1306@fhccnaqv>


Hi,

I had made three nominations yesterday.  I would like to make slight 
changes to the description of one of them.  Note that this is *not* a new 
nominations.  The details are already uploaded on the webpage.  I only 
want to changes to the description.

Here is the new text:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sumitha Prashanth
=================

Sumitha has been very enthusiastic about evangelising Solaris. She is 
co-ordinating with marketing and engineering and arranging talks and demos 
for our customers. She co-ordinated FOSS.in (http://foss.in/2005/) event 
in Bangalore and the VTU Edusat presentation session 
(http://elearning.vtu.ac.in/edusat_bde.htm) that was broadcasted over 
sattelite across all engineering colleges in Karnataka. She is also 
evangelising Solaris in Universities and Colleges in other parts of India.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanx a lot.

Regards,
Jayakara Kini

-- Sun Microsystems - India Engineering Centre
http://blogs.sun.com/jkini 
+91-80-56927479


From spp at unixsa.net  Sat Jun 10 08:55:30 2006
From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:55:30 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
Message-ID: <14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

> here are two screen 
> shots, one with the original text/design and one

I really like the second one; modulo the couple of comments people already made:
* the "innovation happens everywhere" doesn't stand out enough
* the community/project list should come back, somewhere

I like the ordering of the items, maybe the "Most one year olds..." could replace the "1 year":
33,000 ...
...
5 Distros
Most one year olds can barely walk; we're up and running
Happy Birthday!

-spp
 
 
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From M.Cerveny at iol.cz  Sat Jun 10 14:10:41 2006
From: M.Cerveny at iol.cz (Martin Cerveny)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:10:41 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nomination for Frank Hofmann
Message-ID: <18479934.1149974500014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

I would like to nominate Frank Hofmann.

He presented three very interesting and deep technical presentation at CZOSUG (see http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/czosug/ ).
He also contributed "Crashdump Analysis/x86 OS Internals" book to the document community.

M.C>
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From binarycrusader at gmail.com  Sun Jun 11 17:17:59 2006
From: binarycrusader at gmail.com (Shawn Walker)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:17:59 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nomination
Message-ID: <20889710.1150071516920.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

I would like to nominate J?rg Schilling for his outstanding efforts on behalf of the Solaris and OpenSolaris communities. J?rg has contributed a significant amount of work through his efforts to get star and cdrecord-tools placed under the CDDL, as well as his work on Schillix. In addition, J?rg has gone above and beyond basic expectations in his efforts to help others with issues that relate to Solaris.

Cheers,
-Shawn
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 03:36:19 2006
From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:36:19 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
Message-ID: <1150108580.7661.33.camel@haiiro>

Hey all,

I've a couple of nominations to make:

[ the first one is a bit hard : I'm really trying to nominate a large
group of people, which I'm not sure is allowed, but here goes ]


Eric Schrock & the ON Kernel Developers

Eric is one of the of *many* Solaris Kernel engineers who've completely
embraced the OpenSolaris development process, worked hard with the
community to help them understand the OpenSolaris code & ideals and have
been a great example to other engineers within Sun on how to do
development "outside SWAN". Without Sun engineers like Eric & the rest
of the kernel guys, who were willing to change the way they worked,
OpenSolaris would have fallen flat on it's face. I'd like to nominate
the Solaris ON developers inc. Eric Schrock for an OpenSolaris
Contributor award.


Jim Grisanzio

As a stalwart of the OpenSolaris community, the work Jim's been doing
publicly has been highly visible though his blog : ever enthusiastic,
and always positive. I suspect that in the months leading up to Opening
Day, Jim was also hard at work behind the scenes, evangelising within
Sun, and getting everybody thinking the Right Way. For these reasons,
and for being one of the many who helped OpenSolaris get out the door, I
believe Jim deserves an OpenSolaris Contributor award.



-- 
Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group
Engineering Operations            http://blogs.sun.com/timf



From opensolaris.org at gmail.com  Sun Jun 11 00:57:03 2006
From: opensolaris.org at gmail.com (Chris Lawson)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:57:03 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] OSCA Nominations
Message-ID: <d8bb95c80606110057g38613d79re6546b3617e413f0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

and my nominations are

Joerg Schilling, for Schillix

Dennis Clarke, blastwave.org

Regards,
Chris Lawson


From Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 07:52:22 2006
From: Bonnie.Corwin at Sun.COM (Bonnie Corwin)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:52:22 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner on
	home page
In-Reply-To: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
References: <44883C5E.9040406@sun.com> <44898534.5040009@sun.com>
	<44898845.80600@sun.com> <44898F94.10302@sun.com>
	<448990B1.2080403@sun.com>
	<44899289.2090708@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090835350.417@marrakesh>
	<448995F6.9030706@sun.com> <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606090844300.417@marrakesh>
	<44899AC6.3000205@Sun.COM> <44899B7B.6030100@sun.com>
	<60622.65.95.197.201.1149869434.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
	<44899DDD.50904@sun.com> <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448D7FA6.9040002@Sun.COM>

Great job, you guys - I really like the second option.  Less black and
less words makes it understated and more powerful at the same time (IMHO).

I'm not so sure we need to add back the project examples.  We say '28
projects' and right above this is the icon for projects, so I'm not sure
I'd add all of that text back.

Bonnie

Derek Cicero wrote On 06/09/06 16:18,:
> Sorry for the delay, I meant noon Hawaii time. ;)
> 
> After going through a few iterations of the designs, Dan had some great 
> suggestions about reworking the original artwork, so here are two screen 
> shots, one with the original text/design and one reworked. Comments are 
> very welcome, but given our limited timing I can't guarantee how much 
> alteration we can do.
> 
> I'll see where we are Monday and noon and then do the final cuts.
> 
> Derek
> 
> Karyn Ritter wrote:
> 
> 
>>Bonnie's right that we should be able to easily mock up a page on the 
>>website. I didn't even think about that part of it until after I sent 
>>my email about the staging server itself. :)
>>
>>- Karyn
>>
>>Dennis Clarke wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Sure, I'll speak for Derek and say that it will. :)
>>>>Sara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Is it possible to simply drop things onto genunix.org as required ?
>>>
>>>I have this notion that sharing in a community should be real easy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> website-discuss at opensolaris.org



From Takaaki.Higuchi at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 01:12:15 2006
From: Takaaki.Higuchi at Sun.COM (Takaaki Higuchi)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:12:15 +0900
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
Message-ID: <448D21DF.6030407@Sun.COM>

Hi,

I'd like to nominate Masayuki Murayama for his contributions
on various NIC drivers and the on-going effort to incorporate
it into OpenSolaris.

regards,
Takaaki Higuchi





From dp at eng.sun.com  Mon Jun 12 08:57:45 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:57:45 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com>

On Sat 10 Jun 2006 at 08:55AM, Stephen Potter wrote:
> > here are two screen
> > shots, one with the original text/design and one
>
> I really like the second one; modulo the couple of comments people
> already made: * the "innovation happens everywhere" doesn't stand out
> enough

I disagree, except for colorblind viewers-- the innovation is *in* the
code.  It makes the viewer take a second and third look-- then they
figure it out.

> * the community/project list should come back, somewhere
>
> I like the ordering of the items, maybe the "Most one year olds..."
> could replace the "1 year": 33,000 ...  ...  5 Distros Most one year

That would destroy the fact that the "1 year" echoes and explains the
giant 1 we have.

> olds can barely walk; we're up and running Happy Birthday!

I have to say that I personally found "Most one year olds..."
excessively wordy-ish and arrogant.  It sounds like ad copy.  I stand by
the proposal in that it is clean, not marketing-ish, and the use of
numerals forms a coherent theme throughout.

Laura Ramsey Wrote:
> I think the Celebrate layout is awesome. Can it be done in Black? for a
> little (alotta) better contrast.

What do you mean by "done in black"?  Do you mean the code?  I think the
dark grey works well-- it echos the saturation of other colors on the
site, and defocus's the eye's attention on the code.  By comparison, the
text about the number of communities, etc. is in saturated black.

> And, I hate to lose the list of cool projects...how about those as links
> along the bottom of the 1.

You'd need to mock this up for me to understand how it fits.

        -dp

--
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From dp at eng.sun.com  Mon Jun 12 09:02:24 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:02:24 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <20060612160224.GC829@eng.sun.com>

On Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 08:57AM, Dan Price wrote:
> dark grey works well-- it echos the saturation of other colors on the
> site, and defocus's the eye's attention on the code.  By comparison, the

Clearly it's too early in the day and I haven't had enough coffee.
Sorry about all the speeling erors.

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 09:15:56 2006
From: Karyn.Ritter at Sun.COM (Karyn Ritter)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:15:56 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nominations
Message-ID: <448D933C.5020201@sun.com>

On behalf of the OpenSolaris program/engineering team, I'd like to 
nominate the following people for their efforts around community code 
contributions.

Top 3 community code contributors

   Richard Lowe has offered 33 code contributions since November 2005 and
   a staggering 23 of them have been integrated so far.

   Juergen Keil has also offered 33 code contributions -- the first one
   just 2 months after we launched. He is close behind Richard with 21 of
   his contributions having been integrated to date.

   Rainer Orth submitted his first code contribution a mere 2 months ago,
   and he is already the third largest contributor with 27 to date.


The first community code contributor

   Cyril Plisko was the very first community member to offer a code
   contribution, and it was the first contribution to be integrated.
   Since then he has contributed to the community as a whole in many
   different ways.


Top 2 community code sponsors

   Sarah Jelinek has not only sponsored more community code contributions
   than anyone else (10 total), she has integrated 9 of them into
   OpenSolaris.

   Dave Miner is close on Sarah's heels for both numbers: he's sponsored
   9 contributions and integrated 8 of them.


My thanks goes out to all of the code contributors and sponsors. It 
almost seems a shame to single anyone out...

Thanks,

Karyn




From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 09:42:37 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:42:37 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>


Hi Dan:

My idea has evolved...instead of doing links along the bottom of the 
graphic...how about taking one of the boxes on the right hand column to 
feature these?
I know you face hard coding issues on those boxes. Refreshing them might 
not be in the cards given the timeline.

My other ideas are "improved" by comments of others. Don't move backwards.

;)
LKR


Dan Price wrote:

>On Sat 10 Jun 2006 at 08:55AM, Stephen Potter wrote:
>  
>
>>>here are two screen
>>>shots, one with the original text/design and one
>>>      
>>>
>>I really like the second one; modulo the couple of comments people
>>already made: * the "innovation happens everywhere" doesn't stand out
>>enough
>>    
>>
>
>I disagree, except for colorblind viewers-- the innovation is *in* the
>code.  It makes the viewer take a second and third look-- then they
>figure it out.
>
>  
>
>>* the community/project list should come back, somewhere
>>
>>I like the ordering of the items, maybe the "Most one year olds..."
>>could replace the "1 year": 33,000 ...  ...  5 Distros Most one year
>>    
>>
>
>That would destroy the fact that the "1 year" echoes and explains the
>giant 1 we have.
>
>  
>
>>olds can barely walk; we're up and running Happy Birthday!
>>    
>>
>
>I have to say that I personally found "Most one year olds..."
>excessively wordy-ish and arrogant.  It sounds like ad copy.  I stand by
>the proposal in that it is clean, not marketing-ish, and the use of
>numerals forms a coherent theme throughout.
>
>Laura Ramsey Wrote:
>  
>
>>I think the Celebrate layout is awesome. Can it be done in Black? for a
>>little (alotta) better contrast.
>>    
>>
>
>What do you mean by "done in black"?  Do you mean the code?  I think the
>dark grey works well-- it echos the saturation of other colors on the
>site, and defocus's the eye's attention on the code.  By comparison, the
>text about the number of communities, etc. is in saturated black.
>
>  
>
>>And, I hate to lose the list of cool projects...how about those as links
>>along the bottom of the 1.
>>    
>>
>
>You'd need to mock this up for me to understand how it fits.
>
>        -dp
>
>--
>Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp
>_______________________________________________
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>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
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From dp at eng.sun.com  Mon Jun 12 10:03:44 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:03:44 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com> <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>
Message-ID: <20060612170344.GD829@eng.sun.com>

On Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 12:42PM, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan:
> 
> My idea has evolved...instead of doing links along the bottom of the
> graphic...how about taking one of the boxes on the right hand column to feature
> these?
> I know you face hard coding issues on those boxes. Refreshing them
> might not be in the cards given the timeline.

It's up to whoever own the content on the homepage-- which is not
me--- I don't have editing privileges...

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From David.Comay at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 10:51:58 2006
From: David.Comay at Sun.COM (David.Comay at Sun.COM)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0606120940320.104373@izimbra>

I'd like to nominate three people from the many deserving community
members who have made a difference this year for OpenSolaris.

Simon Phipps for his always insightful thoughts on open source
development and community building, for help in driving these efforts
across Sun and for helping to defuse, in language the layperson can
understand, many of the myths surrounding the Common Development and
Distribution License (CDDL).

Michelle Olson for leadership in the OpenSolaris Documentation
community including the production of many critical documentation
components such as the initial instructor's guide to OpenSolaris.

Stephen Hahn for driving, as the OpenSolaris technical lead, a number
of proposals including the OpenSolaris charter, the start of a draft
constitution and perhaps most importantly, the generation of the
requirements for the distributed source code management system (SCM) as
well driving the evaluation and eventual selection.


From James.Walker at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 10:50:25 2006
From: James.Walker at Sun.COM (Jim Walker)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:50:25 -0600
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nominees
Message-ID: <448DA961.2090306@sun.com>

Here's a few.

Cheers,
Jim

+++

Tim Foster - for his support of OpenSolaris and ZFS through
blogs, discussions and the Irish OpenSolaris user group meetings.

Lisa Week - for her continued support and commitment to the
Front Range OpenSolaris User Group (FROSUG)

Ginnie Wray - for her continued support and commitment to the FROSUG.

Sam Falkner - for his continued support and commitment to the FROSUG.

Jon Bowman - for his continued support and commitment to the FROSUG.

Jeff Bonwick, Eric Schrock, Matt Ahrens and other ZFS team members -
for making zfs-discuss one of the most active and successful discussion lists.

Greg Shaw - for his numerous technical emails across many OpenSolaris
discussion lists.

Robert Mikowski - for his numerous technical emails on zfs-discuss and other
OpenSolaris discussion lists.






From Susan.Weber at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 11:09:54 2006
From: Susan.Weber at Sun.COM (Susan Weber)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:09:54 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] nominee
Message-ID: <448DADF2.6010001@sun.com>

Ginnie Wray

For initial work as leader in the Docs community and then for later work 
as founder
of the FROSUG.

-S


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 11:17:17 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:17:17 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards - LAST
	CHANCE
In-Reply-To: <4489DF08.2080801@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com> <4489DF08.2080801@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448DAFAD.8080108@sun.com>

Final Reminder to get your nominations in by close of business today 
(PT) for the First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards.

All nominators will be sent a special limited edition OpenSolaris 
anniversary t-shirt.

You can see the current nominees at 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/

Thanks,
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Just a reminder that the nominations close at the end of day Monday June 
> 12 (CA time). Winners will be announced on June 14.
> 
> Send nominations to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org.
> 
> Sara
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> Based on the +1s, we are moving forward with this proposal. Get your 
>> nominations in.
>>
>> What is a contributor?
>> You define it. There is only one category, one requirement to be the 
>> recipient of one of these coveted awards: that the winner has to have 
>> done something -- anything -- to the benefit of the OpenSolaris 
>> community. It could be postings, code, evangelism, curriculum, blogs, 
>> etc. etc. etc.
>>
>>
>> How are we going to do this?
>>
>> Anyone can make a nomination:
>>
>> - Send your nomination email to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> - Tell us who you are nominating and why you feel he/she should receive
>> an OpenSolaris Contributor Award.  Be specific.
>> - The first 200 people who send in nominations will receive an 
>> anniversary gift. One gift per person, but you can nominate as many 
>> people as you'd like. We'll collect your address and size separately.
>>
>> What do nominators get?
>> - #1 T-shirt (artwork has been sent to mktg list)
>> - OpenSolaris stickers (for sticking on stuff - artwork sent to mktg 
>> list)
>> - OpenSolaris laptop sticker (the metalic or clear, small kind - 
>> artwork sent to mktg list)
>> - An OpenSolaris electrostatic cling (for your car window)
>> - A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
>> favorite distro - artwork is located at 
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/
>>
>>
>> We can take nominations from Monday June 5 through Monday June 12.
>>
>>
>> Who wins?
>>  From the pool of nominations that are received, the 20 most 
>> contributing-est contributors will be selected. Those 20 individuals 
>> will be named OpenSolaris Contributors and will receive the same gift 
>> as above, plus a fancy OpenSolaris embroidered polo shirt for 
>> occasions when you need to dress up. (These are an extremely limited 
>> edition, only 20 will be produced.) And an OpenSolaris "space pen", 
>> for when you need to write in zero gravity or under water.
>>
>>
>> Who does the selecting?
>> The CAB will judge which 20 members of the community will win.
>>
>>
>> Where will the nominees be listed?
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
>>
>> As emails come in nominating people, they will be added to this page. 
>> The ones I have already gotten are posted there now.
>>
>>
>> When will we know who has won?
>> Winners will be posted on the anniversary ? June 14.
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org


From stevel at sun.com  Mon Jun 12 11:48:09 2006
From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:48:09 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] my nominations
Message-ID: <448DB6E9.4080508@sun.com>

Richard Lowe: for being one of the most prolific contributors, having a 
great attitude, being eager to help work on problems, and just overall 
being a great guy to work with.

Danek Duvall: for having far more patience than I would if I were him... 
and dealing with my infinitely never-ending gate questions

cheers,
steve
-- 
stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net
opensolaris // solaris kernel development


From ian.c.campbell at eds.com  Mon Jun 12 12:14:00 2006
From: ian.c.campbell at eds.com (Campbell, Ian C)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:14:00 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
Message-ID: <294644F8E821BF488266E02034D7E52102948E7D@camkm232.amer.corp.eds.com>

Nomination: Liane Praza, for SMF.  SMF is one of the greatest
contributions to Solaris ...
 
Ian Campbell
EDS Leveraged Software Capability Americas 
Unix Technology and Productivity Strategies 
Address: 33 Yonge St., Toronto, Ontario Canada M5E1G4 
Tel        : +01-416-907-6226
Email    : ian.c.campbell at eds.com
Cell phone    : 416-712-5033
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From dp at eng.sun.com  Mon Jun 12 13:46:28 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:28 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nominations
Message-ID: <20060612204628.GM711@eng.sun.com>


I nominate the following people:

        Robert Milkowski - For always running the very latest in
            production.

        Juergen Keil - For his highly technical contributions.

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From spp at unixsa.net  Mon Jun 12 14:26:46 2006
From: spp at unixsa.net (Stephen Potter)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:26:46 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards - LAST
In-Reply-To: <448DAFAD.8080108@sun.com>
Message-ID: <7608076.1150147636435.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

Sara-
I have two more nominations that hugely deserve to be mentioned:
you and Laura Ramsey.  OSol is about the community, not just the code.  Without a message, no one hears about the community, and no one contributes to the code.  Both you and Laura have been tireless in your efforts to help spread the word and to make it easier for the rest of us to spread the word as well.  You have been amazing at accepting input and suggestions from the rest of the community and we are all much better off because of your work.

-spp
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Mon Jun 12 14:37:15 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:37:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards - 
	LAST
In-Reply-To: <7608076.1150147636435.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <448DAFAD.8080108@sun.com>
	<7608076.1150147636435.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <3876.209.226.150.152.1150148235.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Sara-
> I have two more nominations that hugely deserve to be mentioned:
> you and Laura Ramsey.  OSol is about the community, not just the code.
> Without a message, no one hears about the community, and no one contributes
> to the code.  Both you and Laura have been tireless in your efforts to help
> spread the word and to make it easier for the rest of us to spread the word
> as well.  You have been amazing at accepting input and suggestions from the
> rest of the community and we are all much better off because of your work.
>

Man !  I am not fast enough !

I was drafting up the exact same idea and concept for both Sara Dornsife and
Laura Ramsey plus one other guy that is a big time blogger and late night
IRC channel resident :

   James Dickens   http://uadmin.blagspot.com

I don't think that James really ever sleeps and he has helped me and a lot
of other people out of a jam at 4AM in the morning.  He has extensive
knowledge in the area of Solaris and he _is_ a boat rocker also.  We need
voices like James to get the message out there also.


-- 
Dennis Clarke



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 15:38:18 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:38:18 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary web button available
Message-ID: <448DECDA.9080602@sun.com>

We've created an anniversary web button that you can post on your web 
site to celebrate our one year mark. Go to 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ and download the button for 
Wed June 14th.
Sara


From rasputnik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 12 15:35:44 2006
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:35:44 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Award
Message-ID: <3f1760606121535m667ad1feu6735c1180fad07a2@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to nominate Ben Rockwood for his excellent
blog at cuddletech.com.

The howtos, reviews, gossip and rants there have given
people like me (experienced sysadmins who haven't
had much exposure to *solaris) a great leg up.

-- 
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
http://number9.hellooperator.net/


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 17:29:53 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:29:53 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] CLOSED First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
In-Reply-To: <448DAFAD.8080108@sun.com>
References: <448484A3.5050009@sun.com> <4489DF08.2080801@sun.com>
	<448DAFAD.8080108@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448E0701.2010400@sun.com>

Thank you so much for all of the nominations. If you haven't already 
done so, you should take a look at your fellow community members, they 
are a pretty amazing bunch.

Nominations are now closed. Winners will be selected and the names 
posted on June 14th.
Sara


Sara Dornsife wrote:
> Final Reminder to get your nominations in by close of business today 
> (PT) for the First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards.
> 
> All nominators will be sent a special limited edition OpenSolaris 
> anniversary t-shirt.
> 
> You can see the current nominees at 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
> 
> Thanks,
> Sara
> 
> 
> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> Just a reminder that the nominations close at the end of day Monday 
>> June 12 (CA time). Winners will be announced on June 14.
>>
>> Send nominations to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org.
>>
>> Sara
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>> Based on the +1s, we are moving forward with this proposal. Get your 
>>> nominations in.
>>>
>>> What is a contributor?
>>> You define it. There is only one category, one requirement to be the 
>>> recipient of one of these coveted awards: that the winner has to have 
>>> done something -- anything -- to the benefit of the OpenSolaris 
>>> community. It could be postings, code, evangelism, curriculum, blogs, 
>>> etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> How are we going to do this?
>>>
>>> Anyone can make a nomination:
>>>
>>> - Send your nomination email to opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> - Tell us who you are nominating and why you feel he/she should receive
>>> an OpenSolaris Contributor Award.  Be specific.
>>> - The first 200 people who send in nominations will receive an 
>>> anniversary gift. One gift per person, but you can nominate as many 
>>> people as you'd like. We'll collect your address and size separately.
>>>
>>> What do nominators get?
>>> - #1 T-shirt (artwork has been sent to mktg list)
>>> - OpenSolaris stickers (for sticking on stuff - artwork sent to mktg 
>>> list)
>>> - OpenSolaris laptop sticker (the metalic or clear, small kind - 
>>> artwork sent to mktg list)
>>> - An OpenSolaris electrostatic cling (for your car window)
>>> - A recordable CD/DVD imprinted with OpenSolaris for you to burn your 
>>> favorite distro - artwork is located at 
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/mktgdownloads/
>>>
>>>
>>> We can take nominations from Monday June 5 through Monday June 12.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who wins?
>>>  From the pool of nominations that are received, the 20 most 
>>> contributing-est contributors will be selected. Those 20 individuals 
>>> will be named OpenSolaris Contributors and will receive the same gift 
>>> as above, plus a fancy OpenSolaris embroidered polo shirt for 
>>> occasions when you need to dress up. (These are an extremely limited 
>>> edition, only 20 will be produced.) And an OpenSolaris "space pen", 
>>> for when you need to write in zero gravity or under water.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who does the selecting?
>>> The CAB will judge which 20 members of the community will win.
>>>
>>>
>>> Where will the nominees be listed?
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
>>>
>>> As emails come in nominating people, they will be added to this page. 
>>> The ones I have already gotten are posted there now.
>>>
>>>
>>> When will we know who has won?
>>> Winners will be posted on the anniversary ? June 14.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
>> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org


From benr at cuddletech.com  Mon Jun 12 17:32:37 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:32:37 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Nominations
Message-ID: <448E07A5.7000404@cuddletech.com>

Here's my nominations..

Sara Dornsife, Laura Ramsey, and Teresa Giacomini

Spread a cross the country, but with a singular mission.  These three 
are professional, efficient, and work hard to get out the good news 
whenever and where ever there is an opportunity.  Not to mention being 
extremely helpful and easy to work with. 

Jim Grisanzio:

If the community had a father figure, it'd be Jim.  Both in front of and 
behind the scenes Jim is constantly working to hold this project 
together. Through thick and thin, Jim's been there pushing things 
forward from the beginning well beyond the call of duty.

Dr. Roy Fielding:

Asking someone who's not involved in the community to help create it is 
difficult.  Roy has taken on a lot and we're greatly indebted to him for 
his contribution.

Keith Wesolowski and Dr. Stephen Hahn:

Professional, insightful, and helpful contribution at every step, on the 
lists, in the communities, and behind the scenes things that no one ever 
sees.  Both Keith and Stephen provide insight that smooths over some 
areas that would otherwise be gapping holes in the organization.

Michelle Olson:

She's as passionate as I am.  She really pours herself into her work and 
has worked long hours and put a lot of love and sweat into the docs 
community.  She's not only had to do her job but define it in a changing 
environment.

Alan DuBoff:

We've got dozens of OpenSolaris User Groups around the globe, thanks to 
Alan plowing the road.  Before OpenSolaris was even fully released the 
Silicon Valley OpenSolaris Users Group was formed and meeting 
regularly.  To this day the SVOSUG is one of the most informative and 
pertinent user groups in the world.

Mike Kupfer and Stephen Lau:

Mike and Steven both are the hands working away at things that keep the 
community afloat, including cutting releases, attending trade shows and 
events, and helping anywhere they can.  When you grab the latest code 
bundle, think of Mike and Steve.

Joerg Schilling:

SchilliX was the first.  He slaved at the release to get it ready and 
worked through a lot of barriers to get it out the door. 


Gah...... Times up....


benr.




From derek.cicero at sun.com  Mon Jun 12 18:20:29 2006
From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:20:29 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <20060612170344.GD829@eng.sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com> <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>
	<20060612170344.GD829@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <448E12DD.1020709@sun.com>

Dan Price wrote:

> On Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 12:42PM, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan:
>>
>> My idea has evolved...instead of doing links along the bottom of the
>> graphic...how about taking one of the boxes on the right hand column 
>> to feature
>> these?
>> I know you face hard coding issues on those boxes. Refreshing them
>> might not be in the cards given the timeline.
>
>
> It's up to whoever own the content on the homepage-- which is not
> me--- I don't have editing privileges...
>
> -dp

Here is the final version. Let me know if anything seems off. We'll post 
the new homepage at 9 AM  on 6/14.

Derek




-- 
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division
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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 18:23:55 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:23:55 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <448E12DD.1020709@sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com> <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>
	<20060612170344.GD829@eng.sun.com> <448E12DD.1020709@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448E13AB.5030005@sun.com>

It looks great Derek and Dan. This will go live at 9am on Wed?
Sara


Derek Cicero wrote:
> Dan Price wrote:
> 
>> On Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 12:42PM, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan:
>>>
>>> My idea has evolved...instead of doing links along the bottom of the
>>> graphic...how about taking one of the boxes on the right hand column 
>>> to feature
>>> these?
>>> I know you face hard coding issues on those boxes. Refreshing them
>>> might not be in the cards given the timeline.
>>
>>
>> It's up to whoever own the content on the homepage-- which is not
>> me--- I don't have editing privileges...
>>
>> -dp
> 
> Here is the final version. Let me know if anything seems off. We'll post 
> the new homepage at 9 AM  on 6/14.
> 
> Derek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 12 19:50:47 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:50:47 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Re: [website-discuss] Copy for anniversary banner
In-Reply-To: <448E12DD.1020709@sun.com>
References: <4489F399.5080808@sun.com>
	<14885460.1149954961014.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<20060612155745.GB829@eng.sun.com> <448D997D.3070004@sun.com>
	<20060612170344.GD829@eng.sun.com> <448E12DD.1020709@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448E2807.6020305@sun.com>


O-my-gawd I like it ALOT!

LKR

Derek Cicero wrote:

> Dan Price wrote:
>
>> On Mon 12 Jun 2006 at 12:42PM, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan:
>>>
>>> My idea has evolved...instead of doing links along the bottom of the
>>> graphic...how about taking one of the boxes on the right hand column 
>>> to feature
>>> these?
>>> I know you face hard coding issues on those boxes. Refreshing them
>>> might not be in the cards given the timeline.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's up to whoever own the content on the homepage-- which is not
>> me--- I don't have editing privileges...
>>
>> -dp
>
>
> Here is the final version. Let me know if anything seems off. We'll 
> post the new homepage at 9 AM  on 6/14.
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From rmilkowski at task.gda.pl  Mon Jun 12 22:55:26 2006
From: rmilkowski at task.gda.pl (Robert Milkowski)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:55:26 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Fwd: Re: [ug-discuss] Polish Open Solaris User Group
In-Reply-To: <448D748D.2080004@sun.com>
References: <23903922.1150069379190.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<448D748D.2080004@sun.com>
Message-ID: <273200624.20060613075526@task.gda.pl>

Hi.


   I know it's late - but perhaps some express delivery from Sun
   Poland would do - so maybe some inner call within Sun to
   Sun Poland? I'll try to call myself anyway.

   ps. I don't know what have you prepared - haven't been reading this
       group regularly - no time for every group :)


This is a forwarded message
From: Laura Ramsey <Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM>
To: Robert Milkowski <milek at task.gda.pl>
Date: Monday, June 12, 2006, 4:05:01 PM
Subject: [ug-discuss] Polish Open Solaris User Group

===8<==============Original message text===============

Hi!

I'll get your page set up ASAP--and we'll get you a group email alias as 
well!

Great that you'll try to get together for a 1st anniversary meeting. Be 
sure to hit the Marketing community for any artwork, badges or tags you 
need to get your page properly "attired" for it's debut!

Stay tuned. You'll be up within the hour.

Cheers,
LKR


Robert Milkowski wrote:

>Hi.
>
>     We (I and my friend) would like to setup Polish OSUG - PLOSUG.
>
>
>Initial leaders would be: Robert Milkowski <milek at task.gda.pl, Andrzej Butkiewicz <scoot at wp.pl>.
>
>What else should we do to get PLOSUG alive?
>
>Hope we can setup this before 14th so we can have our first official meeting just to celebrate Open Solaris's first year - however in a really small group at the beginning :)
>But it could be a great start.
> 
> 
>This message posted from opensolaris.org
>_______________________________________________
>ug-discuss mailing list
>ug-discuss at opensolaris.org
>  
>


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From P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk  Tue Jun 13 02:41:15 2006
From: P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk (Peter Tribble)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:41:15 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Early article jumping the gun
Message-ID: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum>

I see that ZDNet Australia already have an article about
the anniversary, and it's made its way onto OSNews.com.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenSolaris_one_year_on_Success_or_failure_/0,2000061733,39259726,00.htm

(They really need to read up on the usability of short URLs.)

My stuff is quoted pretty much verbatim. That's come out
pretty well and I'm happy with it. (Although I think
the last bit about project management could have done
with strengthening with a bit more context by both the
author and myself.)

-- 
-Peter Tribble
L.I.S., University of Hertfordshire - http://www.herts.ac.uk/
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/




From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 13 05:25:59 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:25:59 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Early article jumping the gun
In-Reply-To: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum>
References: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum>
Message-ID: <448EAED7.80401@sun.com>


The metrics are off...I'm sure Patrick is already all over this for 
correction.

Terri: Who did the interview? can we please make sure they have the 
right metrics in front of them?
I've personally forwarded these metrics 6 times to folks in product 
marketing/outbound functions...

PLEASE!

LKR


Peter Tribble wrote:

>I see that ZDNet Australia already have an article about
>the anniversary, and it's made its way onto OSNews.com.
>
>http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenSolaris_one_year_on_Success_or_failure_/0,2000061733,39259726,00.htm
>
>(They really need to read up on the usability of short URLs.)
>
>My stuff is quoted pretty much verbatim. That's come out
>pretty well and I'm happy with it. (Although I think
>the last bit about project management could have done
>with strengthening with a bit more context by both the
>author and myself.)
>
>  
>




From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 13 05:49:31 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:49:31 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Early article jumping the gun
In-Reply-To: <448EAED7.80401@sun.com>
References: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum> <448EAED7.80401@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448EB45B.4080809@sun.com>

Hi,

The metrics were current when James Eagleton did the interview, which 
was a few weeks ago.  He contacted me for the latest numbers.

Patrick


constance mckenzie



Laura Ramsey wrote:
> 
> The metrics are off...I'm sure Patrick is already all over this for 
> correction.
> 
> Terri: Who did the interview? can we please make sure they have the 
> right metrics in front of them?
> I've personally forwarded these metrics 6 times to folks in product 
> marketing/outbound functions...
> 
> PLEASE!
> 
> LKR
> 
> 
> Peter Tribble wrote:
> 
>> I see that ZDNet Australia already have an article about
>> the anniversary, and it's made its way onto OSNews.com.
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenSolaris_one_year_on_Success_or_failure_/0,2000061733,39259726,00.htm 
>>
>>
>> (They really need to read up on the usability of short URLs.)
>>
>> My stuff is quoted pretty much verbatim. That's come out
>> pretty well and I'm happy with it. (Although I think
>> the last bit about project management could have done
>> with strengthening with a bit more context by both the
>> author and myself.)
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 13 06:03:32 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:03:32 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Early article jumping the gun
In-Reply-To: <448EB45B.4080809@sun.com>
References: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum> <448EAED7.80401@sun.com>
	<448EB45B.4080809@sun.com>
Message-ID: <448EB7A4.2080607@sun.com>


Good to know! Glad James picked up the ball and did a solid community 
based interview.
Terri: maybe this one stands and future articles are certain to refer to 
the metrics:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/week_52_stats/

LKR

Patrick Finch wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The metrics were current when James Eagleton did the interview, which 
> was a few weeks ago.  He contacted me for the latest numbers.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> constance mckenzie
>
>
>
> Laura Ramsey wrote:
>
>>
>> The metrics are off...I'm sure Patrick is already all over this for 
>> correction.
>>
>> Terri: Who did the interview? can we please make sure they have the 
>> right metrics in front of them?
>> I've personally forwarded these metrics 6 times to folks in product 
>> marketing/outbound functions...
>>
>> PLEASE!
>>
>> LKR
>>
>>
>> Peter Tribble wrote:
>>
>>> I see that ZDNet Australia already have an article about
>>> the anniversary, and it's made its way onto OSNews.com.
>>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenSolaris_one_year_on_Success_or_failure_/0,2000061733,39259726,00.htm 
>>>
>>>
>>> (They really need to read up on the usability of short URLs.)
>>>
>>> My stuff is quoted pretty much verbatim. That's come out
>>> pretty well and I'm happy with it. (Although I think
>>> the last bit about project management could have done
>>> with strengthening with a bit more context by both the
>>> author and myself.)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org





From jim.grisanzio at sun.com  Tue Jun 13 08:23:17 2006
From: jim.grisanzio at sun.com (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:23:17 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Early article jumping the gun
In-Reply-To: <1150191675.20393.9.camel@platinum>
Message-ID: <20656091.1150212227080.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

> I see that ZDNet Australia already have an article
> about
> the anniversary, and it's made its way onto
> OSNews.com.
> 
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/OpenSolaris_
> one_year_on_Success_or_failure_/0,2000061733,39259726,
> 00.htm
> 
> (They really need to read up on the usability of
> short URLs.)
> 
> My stuff is quoted pretty much verbatim. That's come
> out
> pretty well and I'm happy with it. (Although I think
> the last bit about project management could have done
> with strengthening with a bit more context by both
> the
> author and myself.)


Peter ... that's an excellent article.  Some really nice quotes in there.

Jim
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From jim.grisanzio at sun.com  Tue Jun 13 08:31:45 2006
From: jim.grisanzio at sun.com (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:31:45 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Metrics
Message-ID: <25012265.1150212735140.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

Patrick ... these are very nice:
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/

Jim
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From theuser at orbit.in-berlin.de  Wed Jun 14 06:27:32 2006
From: theuser at orbit.in-berlin.de (Tatjana S Heuser)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:27:32 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <25012265.1150212735140.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

+1 :)

Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
is just great!
I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).

Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
considered a trademark/copyright violation?

Tatjana
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:03:54 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:03:54 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <4490174A.3080208@sun.com>


Patrick has logged off for a few minutes...he put that graphic 
together...fantastic isn't it!

and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
alright==let's get that graphic out there!

LKR


Tatjana S Heuser wrote:

>+1 :)
>
>Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
>is just great!
>I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
>linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
>
>Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
>in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
>considered a trademark/copyright violation?
>
>Tatjana
> 
> 
>This message posted from opensolaris.org
>_______________________________________________
>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>  
>




From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:07:02 2006
From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:07:02 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <4490174A.3080208@sun.com>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com>
Message-ID: <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
> alright==let's get that graphic out there!

Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
that I think should be listed :-)

	cheers,
			tim


> LKR
> 
> 
> Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
> 
> >+1 :)
> >
> >Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
> >is just great!
> >I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
> >linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
> >
> >Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
> > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
> >in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
> >considered a trademark/copyright violation?
> >
> >Tatjana
> > 
> > 
> >This message posted from opensolaris.org
> >_______________________________________________
> >opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> >opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
-- 
Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group
Engineering Operations            http://blogs.sun.com/timf



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:38:12 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:38:12 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] HI--Who's writing the announcement for first
	anniversary?
Message-ID: <44901F54.8000301@sun.com>


I don't think there has been a review cycle on that...so I don't think I 
know who's writing it.
If it's me, I'd better get started.

LKR






From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:38:09 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:38:09 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com> <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
Message-ID: <44901F51.8060806@sun.com>

Tim, Tajana,

thanks for the kind comments, feel free to use the image.
The source of the image is a little hard to provide as after much trial 
and error I hand-crafted the thing in GIMP.  You're right about Solaris 
Express too, I'll add it now.

The distros all gave me permission to use their logos in the file, but 
I'll notify them too.

regards


Patrick




Tim Foster wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>   
>> and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
>> alright==let's get that graphic out there!
>>     
>
> Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
> missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
> that I think should be listed :-)
>
> 	cheers,
> 			tim
>
>
>   
>> LKR
>>
>>
>> Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> +1 :)
>>>
>>> Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
>>> is just great!
>>> I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
>>> linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
>>>
>>> Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
>>> in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
>>> considered a trademark/copyright violation?
>>>
>>> Tatjana
>>>
>>>
>>> This message posted from opensolaris.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>  
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>     


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:29:54 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:29:54 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com> <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
Message-ID: <44901D62.3080002@sun.com>


Hi--
source: StarOffice--can you BELIEVE IT!
Patrick is such a trooper!

Until he gets back on line and can forward the original...I grabbed this 
off the website.
jpg is really fat...

LKR


Tim Foster wrote:

>On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>  
>
>>and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
>>alright==let's get that graphic out there!
>>    
>>
>
>Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
>missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
>that I think should be listed :-)
>
>	cheers,
>			tim
>
>
>  
>
>>LKR
>>
>>
>>Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>+1 :)
>>>
>>>Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
>>>is just great!
>>>I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
>>>linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
>>>
>>>Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
>>>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
>>>in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
>>>considered a trademark/copyright violation?
>>>
>>>Tatjana
>>>
>>>
>>>This message posted from opensolaris.org
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>    
>>

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From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:40:44 2006
From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:40:44 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <44901F51.8060806@sun.com>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com> <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
	<44901F51.8060806@sun.com>
Message-ID: <1150296044.16630.1.camel@haiiro>

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 16:38 +0200, Patrick Finch wrote:
> The source of the image is a little hard to provide as after much trial 
> and error I hand-crafted the thing in GIMP.  You're right about Solaris 
> Express too, I'll add it now.

Oh, okay - you're one step ahead of me ! :-)

 (I was starting to look around for a Solaris logo to use, but then
reckoned I'd end up probably violating some trademark or other) Is the
attached any use,

	cheers,
			tim


> The distros all gave me permission to use their logos in the file, but 
> I'll notify them too.
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Foster wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
> >   
> >> and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
> >> alright==let's get that graphic out there!
> >>     
> >
> > Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
> > missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
> > that I think should be listed :-)
> >
> > 	cheers,
> > 			tim
> >
> >
> >   
> >> LKR
> >>
> >>
> >> Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> +1 :)
> >>>
> >>> Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
> >>> is just great!
> >>> I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
> >>> linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
> >>>
> >>> Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
> >>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
> >>> in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
> >>> considered a trademark/copyright violation?
> >>>
> >>> Tatjana
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This message posted from opensolaris.org
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> >> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
> >>     
-- 
Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group
Engineering Operations            http://blogs.sun.com/timf
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From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:48:02 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:48:02 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
Message-ID: <449021A2.2080405@sun.com>


OpenSolaris--One Year Later...

Today is the first anniversary of OpenSolaris. We're celebrating with 
old friends that have been here since we were just a pilot called 
"tonic", and new friends that are joining every day.  There are 14,000 
of us celebrating the accomplishments, and the challenges. Check out the 
blog party, the distros, the art, the metrics, the code.

LKR



From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 07:48:01 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:48:01 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <1150296044.16630.1.camel@haiiro>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com> <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
	<44901F51.8060806@sun.com> <1150296044.16630.1.camel@haiiro>
Message-ID: <449021A1.5030406@sun.com>

We were doing it parallel - I'll post this, because it has the same 
font.  I need to clean the image up a bit though, because every time I 
revise it the colours bleed a little. 
Thanks for the encouragement! 

Patrick


Tim Foster wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 16:38 +0200, Patrick Finch wrote:
>   
>> The source of the image is a little hard to provide as after much trial 
>> and error I hand-crafted the thing in GIMP.  You're right about Solaris 
>> Express too, I'll add it now.
>>     
>
> Oh, okay - you're one step ahead of me ! :-)
>
>  (I was starting to look around for a Solaris logo to use, but then
> reckoned I'd end up probably violating some trademark or other) Is the
> attached any use,
>
> 	cheers,
> 			tim
>
>
>   
>> The distros all gave me permission to use their logos in the file, but 
>> I'll notify them too.
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Foster wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
>>>> alright==let's get that graphic out there!
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
>>> missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
>>> that I think should be listed :-)
>>>
>>> 	cheers,
>>> 			tim
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> LKR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> +1 :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
>>>>> is just great!
>>>>> I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
>>>>> linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
>>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
>>>>> in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
>>>>> considered a trademark/copyright violation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tatjana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This message posted from opensolaris.org
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
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From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 08:06:32 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:06:32 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Metrics
In-Reply-To: <1150296044.16630.1.camel@haiiro>
References: <10428564.1150291682233.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<4490174A.3080208@sun.com> <1150294022.15662.1.camel@haiiro>
	<44901F51.8060806@sun.com> <1150296044.16630.1.camel@haiiro>
Message-ID: <449025F8.8000303@sun.com>

ok, updated and cleaned up - thanks for the tips, Tim

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.png




Tim Foster wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 16:38 +0200, Patrick Finch wrote:
>   
>> The source of the image is a little hard to provide as after much trial 
>> and error I hand-crafted the thing in GIMP.  You're right about Solaris 
>> Express too, I'll add it now.
>>     
>
> Oh, okay - you're one step ahead of me ! :-)
>
>  (I was starting to look around for a Solaris logo to use, but then
> reckoned I'd end up probably violating some trademark or other) Is the
> attached any use,
>
> 	cheers,
> 			tim
>
>
>   
>> The distros all gave me permission to use their logos in the file, but 
>> I'll notify them too.
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Foster wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 10:03 -0400, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> and I don't want to speak for him personally, but I think it would be 
>>>> alright==let's get that graphic out there!
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Yep, I agree - any chance of getting the source of that image ? We
>>> missed Solaris Express, and it's definitely an OpenSolaris distribution
>>> that I think should be listed :-)
>>>
>>> 	cheers,
>>> 			tim
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> LKR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tatjana S Heuser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> +1 :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Beautiful. In particular, the conceise overview/timeline of the projects and distros 
>>>>> is just great!
>>>>> I'd love to see it exposed a bit more prominent on a page of its own that could be 
>>>>> linked to (and maybe made clickable, linking to the project pages?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be allowed to post a downsized copy of that image 
>>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/Projects_Distros1.jpg
>>>>> in an anniversary entry (and link to the metrics and projects page from it), or is that 
>>>>> considered a trademark/copyright violation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tatjana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This message posted from opensolaris.org
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>>>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>>>>         


From rich.teer at rite-group.com  Wed Jun 14 09:44:32 2006
From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:44:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
In-Reply-To: <449021A2.2080405@sun.com>
References: <449021A2.2080405@sun.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606140942560.8710@marrakesh>

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:

> OpenSolaris--One Year Later...
> 
> Today is the first anniversary of OpenSolaris. We're celebrating with old
> friends that have been here since we were just a pilot called "tonic", and new
> friends that are joining every day.  There are 14,000 of us celebrating the
> accomplishments, and the challenges. Check out the blog party, the distros,
> the art, the metrics, the code.

Works for me: succinct and to the point.  Although, if the announcement
appears in placese other than opensolaris.org, I'd add "on opensolaris.org"
to the last sentence.

-- 
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich


From benr at cuddletech.com  Wed Jun 14 10:46:53 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:46:53 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606140942560.8710@marrakesh>
References: <449021A2.2080405@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606140942560.8710@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <44904B8D.1050809@cuddletech.com>

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>
>   
>> OpenSolaris--One Year Later...
>>
>> Today is the first anniversary of OpenSolaris. We're celebrating with old
>> friends that have been here since we were just a pilot called "tonic", and new
>> friends that are joining every day.  There are 14,000 of us celebrating the
>> accomplishments, and the challenges. Check out the blog party, the distros,
>> the art, the metrics, the code.
>>     
>
> Works for me: succinct and to the point.  Although, if the announcement
> appears in placese other than opensolaris.org, I'd add "on opensolaris.org"
> to the last sentence.
>   
Agreed.

benr.


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 10:47:43 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:47:43 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.64.0606140942560.8710@marrakesh>
References: <449021A2.2080405@sun.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.64.0606140942560.8710@marrakesh>
Message-ID: <44904BBF.6020402@sun.com>


Thanks Rich>
I opted to use this for my blog--Jim had prepared an announcement--and 
not in view of the alias so I didn't know.
Thanks!
LKR


Rich Teer wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote:
>
>  
>
>>OpenSolaris--One Year Later...
>>
>>Today is the first anniversary of OpenSolaris. We're celebrating with old
>>friends that have been here since we were just a pilot called "tonic", and new
>>friends that are joining every day.  There are 14,000 of us celebrating the
>>accomplishments, and the challenges. Check out the blog party, the distros,
>>the art, the metrics, the code.
>>    
>>
>
>Works for me: succinct and to the point.  Although, if the announcement
>appears in placese other than opensolaris.org, I'd add "on opensolaris.org"
>to the last sentence.
>
>  
>

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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 11:54:01 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:54:01 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary t-shirts on CafePress
Message-ID: <44905B49.4000409@sun.com>

You can buy your very own Anniversary t-shirt at 
http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource. They are available in white, 
black, gray, and even babydoll. Unfortunately, orange is not an 
available color. I'm still looking.
Sara




From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 12:46:48 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:46:48 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] Technorati Tag for OpenSolaris?
Message-ID: <449067A8.2090402@sun.com>


So, I think I have a bug in my tag. My blog is claimed, but my postings 
with tags are not showing up.
Anybody got the tag snippet handy? Dan's and Jims and Alan Hardgr. seem 
to show up consistently.

LKR




From Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com  Wed Jun 14 13:26:06 2006
From: Ow.Mun.Heng at wdc.com (Ow Mun Heng)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:26:06 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Anniversary t-shirts on CafePress
In-Reply-To: <44905B49.4000409@sun.com>
References: <44905B49.4000409@sun.com>
Message-ID: <1150316766.13649.32.camel@neuromancer.home.net>

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:54 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote:
> You can buy your very own Anniversary t-shirt at 
> http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource. They are available in white, 
> black, gray, and even babydoll. Unfortunately, orange is not an 
> available color. I'm still looking.

I'm looking for a sweater w/o hood with the OpenSolaris Logo.

Are those available?



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 17:03:25 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:03:25 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: Re: [cab-discuss] Do we have our winners?]
Message-ID: <4490A3CD.9080306@sun.com>

Congratulations to all of our winners (listed below) and thank you for 
all of your hard work, passion, and contributions to OpenSolaris this year.
Sara


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [cab-discuss] Do we have our winners?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:00:10 +0100
From: Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com>
To: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM
CC: CAB Discuss <CAB-Discuss at opensolaris.org>
References: <44909E42.90906 at sun.com>

The CAB discussed the nominations at length via private e-mail. To
reach a decision, we clearly had to create our own, additional rules
for the Awards. We have decided the following:
* It would not be appropriate for anyone involved in the awards to
receive an award. The Marketing team agree with this.
* Rather than arbitrarily limiting the list to 20, it would be better
to recognise everyone who was nominated.

The list of Award winners is thus:

Matt Ahrens
Erast Benson
Chandan BN
Jeff Bonwick
Jon Bowman
Bryan Cantrill
Derek Cicero
Dennis Clark
Alan Coopersmith
Bonnie Corwin
James Dickens
Alan DuBoff
Danek Duvall
Sam Faulkner
Tim Foster
Moinak Ghosh
Teresa Giacomini
Brendan Gregg
Jim Grisanzio
Joey Guo
Stephen Hahn
Rainer Heilke
Glenn Herteg
Frank Hofmann
Sarah Jelinek
Jurgen Keil
Mike Kupfer
Stephen Lau
Adam Leventhal
Rich Lowe
Robert Milkowski
Dave Miner
Masayuki Murayama
Michelle Olsen
Rainer Orth
Cyril Plisko
Stephen Potter
Sumitha Prashanth
Liane Praza
Karyn Ritter
Ben Rockwood
Joerg Schilling
Eric Schrock
Greg Shaw
Lisa Week
Keith Weslowski
Ginnie Wray
Chen Xiangqun
Xiang Yong


Our congratulations to all the winners; it's been an amazing year and
the contributions you have all made have been essential to the growth
of the OpenSolaris community.

_____
Simon Phipps, Chief Open Source Officer, Sun Microsystems
Tel:  +1 650 352 6327/USx69758  Web:  www.webmink.net,  AIM: webmink
Current timezone: UTC+1 (UK)


On Jun 15, 2006, at 00:39, Sara Dornsife wrote:

> It's time.
> Sara
> _______________________________________________
> cab-discuss mailing list
> cab-discuss at opensolaris.org



From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 14 17:45:29 2006
From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:45:29 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary t-shirts on CafePress
In-Reply-To: <44905B49.4000409@sun.com>
References: <44905B49.4000409@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4490ADA9.9030707@sun.com>

Hey Sara,

Sara Dornsife wrote:
> You can buy your very own Anniversary t-shirt at 
> http://www.cafepress.com/sunopensource. They are available in white, 
> black, gray, and even babydoll. Unfortunately, orange is not an 
> available color. I'm still looking.

Spreadshirt said they could do them in any colour - we've had stuff 
there at http://genunix.spreadshirt.net ( & .org ) before.. Just an 
option (I haven't looked into the details, admittedly)

	cheers,
			tim

-- 
Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group
Engineering Operations            http://blogs.sun.com/timf


From webmink at sun.com  Thu Jun 15 02:40:16 2006
From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:40:16 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Anniversary web button available
In-Reply-To: <448DECDA.9080602@sun.com>
References: <448DECDA.9080602@sun.com>
Message-ID: <0679EAF3-C2D3-408A-8756-B3E3E70867BC@sun.com>

Small request:  Can we use a transparent background for future  
buttons like this please, the white background looks poor on a non- 
white web page (like my blog).

Thanks

Simon

On Jun 12, 2006, at 23:38, Sara Dornsife wrote:

> We've created an anniversary web button that you can post on your  
> web site to celebrate our one year mark. Go to http:// 
> www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/ and download the button for  
> Wed June 14th.
> Sara



From dougs at truemail.co.th  Thu Jun 15 04:17:22 2006
From: dougs at truemail.co.th (Doug Scott)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:17:22 +0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] nomination
Message-ID: <449141C2.40503@truemail.co.th>

My nomination is for Brendan Gregg <http://brendangregg.com/> for his 
contribution of not only the dtrace toolkit, but as
a contributer to the book Solaris Internals.

Doug
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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 15 06:41:21 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:41:21 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
In-Reply-To: <448D21DF.6030407@Sun.COM>
References: <448D21DF.6030407@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <44916381.4040809@sun.com>

Thank you for your nomination. I need your address, phone and shirt size
to send you your anniversary gift.
Thanks,
Sara


Takaaki Higuchi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to nominate Masayuki Murayama for his contributions
> on various NIC drivers and the on-going effort to incorporate
> it into OpenSolaris.
> 
> regards,
> Takaaki Higuchi
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 15 10:53:28 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:53:28 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Contributor Award Winners are posted
Message-ID: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>

You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/

All winners will need to send me (sara.dornsife at sun.com) your address, 
phone number, and shirt size (unless you have already done so).

Thanks,
Sara


From benr at cuddletech.com  Thu Jun 15 16:13:17 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:13:17 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
	<16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>

Calum Benson wrote:
>
> On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>
>> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
>
> Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/ win? :)

Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees making 
for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:

Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on the 
list.
Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in organizing 
the awards program.

benr.


From webmink at sun.com  Thu Jun 15 16:16:06 2006
From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:16:06 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
	<16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
	<4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>
Message-ID: <9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>


On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:13, Ben Rockwood wrote:

> Calum Benson wrote:
>>
>> On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>
>>> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
>>
>> Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/ win? :)
>
> Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees  
> making for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:
>
> Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on  
> the list.
> Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in  
> organizing the awards program.

Also myself and Casper Dik, also on the CAB.

S.


From webmink at sun.com  Thu Jun 15 16:43:09 2006
From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:43:09 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <ea5e1eee0606151623qb5f9d62y74ada3daa0d89e5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
	<16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
	<4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>
	<9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>
	<ea5e1eee0606151623qb5f9d62y74ada3daa0d89e5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4DF1BF5-14BC-4FDE-A476-D6FACD51C124@sun.com>


On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:23, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote:

> On 6/15/06, Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:13, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>>
>> > Calum Benson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
>> >>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/ 
>> contributoraward/
>> >>
>> >> Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/  
>> win? :)
>> >
>> > Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees
>> > making for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:
>> >
>> > Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on
>> > the list.
>> > Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in
>> > organizing the awards program.
>>
>> Also myself and Casper Dik, also on the CAB.
>
> why?
> i did read the mail in cab-discuss but...

All five CAB members had been nominated for an award, as had both Sun  
marketing staff. The CAB conducted a discussion privately after the  
public discussion on the mailing list, as well as consulting with  
Sara, and came to a majority decision. The CAB felt is was not  
appropriate for either the organisers or judges of the Awards to  
receive awards themselves - it would 'look' wrong and the CAB wanted  
to avoid any impression of impropriety. All seven were therefore  
removed from the final award list.

S.



From benr at cuddletech.com  Thu Jun 15 17:22:59 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:22:59 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
	<16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
	<4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>
	<9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4491F9E3.6050204@cuddletech.com>

Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:13, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>>
>> Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees 
>> making for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:
>>
>> Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on 
>> the list.
>> Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in organizing 
>> the awards program.
>
> Also myself and Casper Dik, also on the CAB.

Sorry for another post... but my numbers were wrong, so I wanted to 
properly fix them: 56 were nominated, 49 won.  The 7 excluded included 
the 5 CAB members, Sara and Laura. 


benr.


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Thu Jun 15 17:37:23 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:37:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are 
	posted
In-Reply-To: <E4DF1BF5-14BC-4FDE-A476-D6FACD51C124@sun.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
	<16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>
	<4491E98D.6080107@cuddletech.com>
	<9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>
	<ea5e1eee0606151623qb5f9d62y74ada3daa0d89e5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4DF1BF5-14BC-4FDE-A476-D6FACD51C124@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4924.206.172.224.141.1150418243.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:23, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote:
>> On 6/15/06, Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:13, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>>> > Calum Benson wrote:
>>> >> On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
>>> >>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/
>>> contributoraward/
>>> >>
>>> >> Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/
>>> win? :)
>>> >
>>> > Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees
>>> > making for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:
>>> >
>>> > Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on
>>> > the list.
>>> > Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in
>>> > organizing the awards program.
>>>
>>> Also myself and Casper Dik, also on the CAB.
>>
>> why?
>> i did read the mail in cab-discuss but...
>
> All five CAB members had been nominated for an award, as had both Sun
> marketing staff. The CAB conducted a discussion privately after the
> public discussion on the mailing list, as well as consulting with
> Sara, and came to a majority decision. The CAB felt is was not
> appropriate for either the organisers or judges of the Awards to
> receive awards themselves - it would 'look' wrong and the CAB wanted
> to avoid any impression of impropriety. All seven were therefore
> removed from the final award list.
>

This is a "community" and while that word tends to get overused I feel
strongly that the people nominated were promoted by people for good reason.

I feel, as the squeaky wheel that I am, that Rich Teer and Sara Dornsife and
Laura ramsey and James Dickens worked one hell of a year and they deserve
every bit of recognition that we can give them.  These are people that I
nominated.

But a few were deleted for, excuse me, perception reasons  ?

Rich Teer has _been_there_ for me on sooo many occasions going back years
and years and on more late nights in more server rooms than I care to
mention.  If it was a choice that Rich made because he thought it wouldn't
"look good" than I have to ask "to whom"?

James Dickens and I have worked together many late nights over the past
twelve months and he is no more a champion of this project than Rich Teer.

>From one to another within this community I must ask "to whom would this
look  wrong?"

Too many people have said that Sun is dead and that Solaris is dead and that
Solaris x86 is gone and _here_we_are_ with great technology and a successful
community project with distributions growing here and there.

It has been a great year and to me all would look just fine.

Dennis Clarke



From Calum.Benson at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 15 16:04:27 2006
From: Calum.Benson at Sun.COM (Calum Benson)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:04:27 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
References: <44919E98.1050201@sun.com>
Message-ID: <16F40CDB-FC9B-448B-991C-8818C5751AF3@sun.com>


On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:

> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/

Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/ win? :)

All thoroughly deserved though!

Cheeri,
Calum.

-- 
CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer       Sun Microsystems Ireland
mailto:calum.benson at sun.com            Java Desktop System Team
http://blogs.sun.com/calum             +353 1 819 9771

Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems




From darkjoker at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 16:23:03 2006
From: darkjoker at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Marambio_Cat=E1n?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:23:03 -0300
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are posted
In-Reply-To: <9B5CAE70-54CB-4515-82CE-DD1D9582238F@sun.com>
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On 6/15/06, Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 01:13, Ben Rockwood wrote:
>
> > Calum Benson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 15 Jun 2006, at 18:53, Sara Dornsife wrote:
> >>
> >>> You can find all of the Contributor Award Winners at
> >>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/contributoraward/
> >>
> >> Blimey, that's quite a list... did any of the nominees /not/ win? :)
> >
> > Four persons were removed from the original list of 53 nominees
> > making for 49 total winners.  Those excluded were:
> >
> > Al Hopper & Rich Teer, because they are CAB members who "judged" on
> > the list.
> > Sara Dornsife & Laura Ramsey, because the were involved in
> > organizing the awards program.
>
> Also myself and Casper Dik, also on the CAB.

why?
i did read the mail in cab-discuss but...

nacho


From Michael.Ditto at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 15 18:17:17 2006
From: Michael.Ditto at Sun.COM (Mike Ditto)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:17:17 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are
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Dennis Clarke wrote On 06/15/06 17:37,:
> But a few were deleted for, excuse me, perception reasons  ?

So how about we invite 10 random winners of this award to be the
moderators for next year's award, for which CAB members etc. will
be eligible.  In the mean time, those nominated know that being
nominated is an honor in itself.  :-)


From Casper.Dik at sun.com  Thu Jun 15 23:52:45 2006
From: Casper.Dik at sun.com (Casper.Dik at sun.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:52:45 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Award Winners are
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>Dennis Clarke wrote On 06/15/06 17:37,:
>> But a few were deleted for, excuse me, perception reasons  ?
>
>So how about we invite 10 random winners of this award to be the
>moderators for next year's award, for which CAB members etc. will
>be eligible.  In the mean time, those nominated know that being
>nominated is an honor in itself.  :-)

As long as they understand that it makes it impossible for them to win
that year :-)

This year's context was run ad-hoc without thinking through the rules;
the majority of the CAB felt that the role of judge or organizer excludes
people from being able to win.  They felt that it was unethical to vote
in favour of awarding themselves prices.

Whether or not they deserved an award does not come into play; we applied
what we felt was the proper set of ethical rules.

Next year, proper rules and a proper award subcommittee should be formed
(perhaps consisting of some of this year's winners?)

Casper


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Fri Jun 16 08:55:44 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:55:44 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: Media Coverage: IT Jungle]
Message-ID: <4492D480.2030002@sun.com>


Lovely Article --thanks to Sun PR team!

LKR

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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Fri Jun 16 12:33:41 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:33:41 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Orange Anniversary tshirts
Message-ID: <44930795.4090304@sun.com>

Limited edition orange anniversary tshirts (only 50 total ever) are 
being produced and will be made for sale on 
http://store.opensolarisswag.com/. They aren't there yet. I'll post when 
they are there.
Sara


From derek.cicero at sun.com  Fri Jun 16 14:20:51 2006
From: derek.cicero at sun.com (Derek Cicero)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:20:51 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Stats from 06/14/06
Message-ID: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com>

I wanted to send out a quick update on the anniversary site traffic:

----------------------------
Total Site Page Views
----------------------------

Average Day: 29,403 Page Views
06/14/2006: 37,138
06/14/2005: 336,166

----------------------------
Home Page Views
----------------------------

Average Day: 2,593 Page Views
06/14/2006: 4,248
06/14/2005: 81,425

----------------------------
Top 5 Home Page Exit Clicks
----------------------------
1) 246 - Download Icon (Upper Right Hand Nav)
2) 186 - Annocuement Link (Anniversary Events Callout Box)
3) 151 - Blog Pary Link(Anniversary Events Callout Box)
4) 137 - Source Browser Icon (Upper Right Hand Nav)
5) 136 - Download Icon (Man Content)


-- 
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division



From dp at eng.sun.com  Fri Jun 16 15:10:12 2006
From: dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:10:12 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com>
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On Fri 16 Jun 2006 at 02:20PM, Derek Cicero wrote:
> I wanted to send out a quick update on the anniversary site traffic:
> 
> ----------------------------
> Total Site Page Views
> ----------------------------
> 
> Average Day: 29,403 Page Views
> 06/14/2006: 37,138
> 06/14/2005: 336,166
> 
> ----------------------------
> Home Page Views
> ----------------------------
> 
> Average Day: 2,593 Page Views
> 06/14/2006: 4,248
> 06/14/2005: 81,425

These numbers are pretty bad.  And they don't tell the whole story.  To
me it's unique visitors which is more interesting:

----------------------------   ----------------------------
Whole Site unique visitors     Home Page unique visitors   
----------------------------   ----------------------------
6/14    5/14    6/14/2005      6/14    5/14    6/14/2005   
7,643   6,578   51,547         2,562   2,249   42,817      


Which is to say that we garned a whopping 300 more (14% more) unique
visitors to the home page and 1065 more (16% more) to the site as
compared to the 14th of the month prior.

Having poured rather a lot of time into this birthday exercise, I'd like
to understand why spending a bunch of time and effort redressing the
website and writing blog entries is going to help if no one knows that
there is something going on.  I'd love to know how many new
registrations we got on 6/14 as compared to a normal day.  And what
was the goal for hits?  For visitors?  For registrations?  I don't know
that either.  What was the plan for generating them?

Clearly, the fact that Slashdot, OSNews, etc. all ran relatively lame
stories about OpenSolaris the day prior did not help things.  We
attempted to get posted on these sites on the 14th but were unable to.
We also got a weird set of links on bigadmin (my fault I guess, I didn't
supervise this closely)... all of which suggests to me that we need to
seek out some new ways of driving volume.  We had no "news"-- not even
some press-release type stuff which we could post to osnews.

I am less likely to devote time and effort to events such as this in the
future in the absence of clearer goals, plans to meet those goals, and
measurement of the impact of what we've done.

        -dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp


From P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk  Sat Jun 17 06:48:24 2006
From: P.Tribble at herts.ac.uk (Peter Tribble)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:48:24 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com>  <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <1150552104.27831.8.camel@platinum>

On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 23:10, Dan Price wrote:
> These numbers are pretty bad.
...
> Having poured rather a lot of time into this birthday exercise, I'd like
> to understand why spending a bunch of time and effort redressing the
> website and writing blog entries is going to help if no one knows that
> there is something going on.
...
> ... all of which suggests to me that we need to
> seek out some new ways of driving volume. 

I would agree that the numbers are pretty bad - if you're playing
the numbers game - and that the birthday was a bit of a damp
squib. However, it's not clear to me that a birthday would actually
generate new activity anyway.

What's more of a concern to myself is that volume of itself isn't
really a useful criteria. We're supposed to have 15000 (or so)
people. How many of those are active? A lot less than 15000,
for sure. Two questions: How do we help those who are active
become more so? How do we convert the lurkers into active
participants?

-- 
-Peter Tribble
L.I.S., University of Hertfordshire - http://www.herts.ac.uk/
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/




From webmink at sun.com  Sat Jun 17 08:53:48 2006
From: webmink at sun.com (Simon Phipps)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:53:48 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
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On Jun 16, 2006, at 23:10, Dan Price wrote:

> We had no "news"-- not even
> some press-release type stuff which we could post to osnews.

Just to be clear, we had some activities including a press release  
lined up to garner this sort of attention, but for reasons that have  
not been made clear to me the Solaris marketing folks (/not/ the  
OpenSolaris team by the way) decided to run all their outreach next  
week and not this week - I thus doubt it will make OSNews etc. I'm  
personally pretty annoyed by this, but it means we should expect a  
second bite of the cherry next week too.

S.



From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM  Sat Jun 17 10:51:58 2006
From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:51:58 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com> <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <4494413E.3020807@sun.com>

Dan Price wrote:

> On Fri 16 Jun 2006 at 02:20PM, Derek Cicero wrote:
> 
>>I wanted to send out a quick update on the anniversary site traffic:
>>
>>----------------------------
>>Total Site Page Views
>>----------------------------
>>
>>Average Day: 29,403 Page Views
>>06/14/2006: 37,138
>>06/14/2005: 336,166
>>
>>----------------------------
>>Home Page Views
>>----------------------------
>>
>>Average Day: 2,593 Page Views
>>06/14/2006: 4,248
>>06/14/2005: 81,425
> 
> 
> These numbers are pretty bad.  


I have not followed the site numbers that closely this year, so I 
probably don't have a good basis for comparison. However, the forum 
numbers have grown steadily and dramatically all year long, so maybe 
they represent more accurately the *activity* in the community rather 
than the site numbers.

I can appreciate your disappointment, but I think you may have set your 
expectations too high for the anniversary. My position on the 
anniversary was always the following: unless we had something big that 
we wanted to release and spend resources shouting about it, we ought to 
just celebrate as a community and keep it low key.


> And they don't tell the whole story.  To
> me it's unique visitors which is more interesting:
> 
> ----------------------------   ----------------------------
> Whole Site unique visitors     Home Page unique visitors   
> ----------------------------   ----------------------------
> 6/14    5/14    6/14/2005      6/14    5/14    6/14/2005   
> 7,643   6,578   51,547         2,562   2,249   42,817      
> 
> 
> Which is to say that we garned a whopping 300 more (14% more) unique
> visitors to the home page and 1065 more (16% more) to the site as
> compared to the 14th of the month prior.


Do these figures of unique visitors to the *site* include the activity 
on the *forums* as well? Or are they figured separately?

I've been tracking the forums every week all year, and for total views 
and unique visitors they are pretty consistently up. I think the forum 
numbers represent nicely the consistent releasing of code, the formation 
of new projects and communities and lists and user groups, and the 
reaching of new people around the world. In fact, the unique visitor 
data on the *forums* is the most impressive figure I've seen on the 
entire project.

In general, I'm not a big believer in measuring website data (or even 
list data) to associate that data to specific and oftentimes artificial 
events. It's just so easily manipulated to have much meaning. I'm more 
concerned with long term trends that represent where development (of 
code and/or community) is taking place.

Also, I spend all my day on the lists/forums and in blog aggregators and 
very little time on the site itself. So, how would my behavior be 
measured on the site? In fact, I spend very little time on the net 
visiting web sites generally. Personally, I think our site should serve 
developers -- code, communities, forums, projects, etc -- and make it as 
simple as possible so it doesn't get in the way of development. Now, 
over time, as our community diversifies, the site can accommodate this 
diversity and I think the numbers will represent that diversity.


> Having poured rather a lot of time into this birthday exercise, 


I think -- and I think most would agree -- that you (and Derek and Sara 
and others) did a lot of work on the site and it's certainly greatly 
appreciated. I think the site looks great.


> I'd like
> to understand why spending a bunch of time and effort redressing the
> website and writing blog entries is going to help if no one knows that
> there is something going on.  


I added about 15 new blogs to the site as a result of your various blog 
mails over the last couple of weeks, which is cool. I'd have to count, 
but it's around there. I don't know how many people actually blogged 
this week, but it blew away my expectations of how many would blog, 
that's for sure. So, good job.

But we knew that a humble little celebration like this would not draw 
the attention of the main launch last year. Personally, I actually think 
that one of the characteristics of this community is that it is 
understated with a strong focus on engineering and business, not 
marketing and PR. That *will* change over time, but I think it's 
extremely accurate for right now. In fact, the entire Solaris market 
fits that description pretty well.

More broadly, though, when you say "if no one knows ..." who do you mean?


> I'd love to know how many new
> registrations we got on 6/14 as compared to a normal day.  And what
> was the goal for hits?  For visitors?  For registrations?  I don't know
> that either.  What was the plan for generating them?


I don't recall any specific goals on these metrics, but marketing can 
correct me if I'm wrong. I never looked at any of these activities as 
anything other than our own little celebration, though, so I don't 
really care about the anniversary website numbers. I intentionally and 
repeatedly down played this entire activity from the get go for two very 
important reasons: we weren't planning on releasing anything and we 
weren't planning on spending big cash publicizing the day. It's that 
simple. So, given those circumstances, I think we did great -- 
especially since this community was supposed to fall flat on it's face 
(according to the critics sitting on the sidelines). Remember all the 
criticism we got early on last year? It's gone.


> Clearly, the fact that Slashdot, OSNews, etc. all ran relatively lame
> stories about OpenSolaris the day prior did not help things.  We
> attempted to get posted on these sites on the 14th but were unable to.
> We also got a weird set of links on bigadmin (my fault I guess, I didn't
> supervise this closely)... all of which suggests to me that we need to
> seek out some new ways of driving volume.  We had no "news"-- not even
> some press-release type stuff which we could post to osnews.


Driving volume in what way? With who?


> I am less likely to devote time and effort to events such as this in the
> future in the absence of clearer goals, plans to meet those goals, and
> measurement of the impact of what we've done.


I think we could have done a better job educating people about the 
expectations of the anniversary given the resources we all had to play 
with. The problem with this, though, is that when you use my strategy of 
down-playing things you tend to dampen enthusiasm. Which is why I don't 
lead such events. :) I suck at it. However, your participation is needed 
early on to properly characterize planning and resulting metrics so 
everyone is in agreement.

Jim







From benr at cuddletech.com  Sat Jun 17 11:21:38 2006
From: benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:21:38 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com> <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
Message-ID: <44944832.10808@cuddletech.com>

Dan Price wrote:

>I am less likely to devote time and effort to events such as this in the
>future in the absence of clearer goals, plans to meet those goals, and
>measurement of the impact of what we've done.
>  
>

There is plenty more that could have been done, without a doubt, but... 
I believed the point of this was to show our stability, growth, and our 
continued success, which we did.  Of all the stories and posts 
throughout the day none were negative that I saw and even forum/comments 
throughout the day were positive.

If you want a splash you've got to give something that will captivate 
users, especially on a hot Wed.  Making a bigger deal about the Nexenta 
and Ubuntu releases would have been the ticket, but we didn't coordinate 
around those vehicles as well as we could have.

I consider the day as a success, despite anything else.  I admit feeling 
around noon that day that things were pretty slow and boring, but even 
so, it could have been an oppertunity for press outlets to rip us up and 
they didn't.

benr.


From jim.grisanzio at sun.com  Sat Jun 17 12:44:36 2006
From: jim.grisanzio at sun.com (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:44:36 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Article on sun.com
Message-ID: <15517515.1150573506092.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

By the way, nice job Patrick:
http://www.sun.com/2006-0614/feature/index.jsp

Jim
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM  Sat Jun 17 23:43:39 2006
From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:43:39 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Article on sun.com
In-Reply-To: <15517515.1150573506092.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <15517515.1150573506092.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <4494F61B.7020608@sun.com>

Thanks - lots of help from folks in the community too.

Patrick


Jim Grisanzio wrote:

>By the way, nice job Patrick:
>http://www.sun.com/2006-0614/feature/index.jsp
>
>Jim
> 
> 
>This message posted from opensolaris.org
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>  
>



From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 19 11:33:01 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:33:01 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <44944832.10808@cuddletech.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com> <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
	<44944832.10808@cuddletech.com>
Message-ID: <4496EDDD.3000000@sun.com>

The efforts on the 14th, which I thought were really good, were from and 
about the community. There was a distinct (but not entire) separation 
from Sun. The community was opened on June 14th and, as Jim stated, we 
celebrated as a community. The press activities out of Sun will reflect 
directly on Solaris 10, which in my mind it should. This community isn't 
only about Solaris.

That said, I am more concerned with the fact that you thought you were 
wasting your time Dan. For that I apologize. I think the site looks 
great. The change was much needed and is much appreciated. Getting the 
IRC framed in thing done is awesome.

There were a lot more blogs than I thought we'd get. And we had our 
first Contributor Awards, although it needs work and specifications to 
run more smoothly :). And most importantly, the community really came 
together to participate in this celebration. We have 3 people in 
OpenSolaris marketing and had up to 20 people on the anniversary calls. 
That's fantastic as far as I am concerned.

Let's take this opportunity to redo the web site. We put up the 1 
graphic for the anniversary, but it is coming down soon and we need 
something new to put in it's place. We covered a lot of ground in our 
discussions for what should there. That was definitely not a waste of time.
Sara


Ben Rockwood wrote:
> Dan Price wrote:
> 
>> I am less likely to devote time and effort to events such as this in the
>> future in the absence of clearer goals, plans to meet those goals, and
>> measurement of the impact of what we've done.
>>  
>>
> 
> There is plenty more that could have been done, without a doubt, but... 
> I believed the point of this was to show our stability, growth, and our 
> continued success, which we did.  Of all the stories and posts 
> throughout the day none were negative that I saw and even forum/comments 
> throughout the day were positive.
> 
> If you want a splash you've got to give something that will captivate 
> users, especially on a hot Wed.  Making a bigger deal about the Nexenta 
> and Ubuntu releases would have been the ticket, but we didn't coordinate 
> around those vehicles as well as we could have.
> 
> I consider the day as a success, despite anything else.  I admit feeling 
> around noon that day that things were pretty slow and boring, but even 
> so, it could have been an oppertunity for press outlets to rip us up and 
> they didn't.
> 
> benr.
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org


From Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 20 05:09:01 2006
From: Glynn.Foster at Sun.COM (Glynn Foster)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:09:01 +0000
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <4494413E.3020807@sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com> <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
	<4494413E.3020807@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4497E55D.90804@sun.com>

Hey,

Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> In general, I'm not a big believer in measuring website data (or even 
> list data) to associate that data to specific and oftentimes artificial 
> events. It's just so easily manipulated to have much meaning. I'm more 
> concerned with long term trends that represent where development (of 
> code and/or community) is taking place.
> 
> Also, I spend all my day on the lists/forums and in blog aggregators and 
> very little time on the site itself. So, how would my behavior be 
> measured on the site? In fact, I spend very little time on the net 
> visiting web sites generally. Personally, I think our site should serve 
> developers -- code, communities, forums, projects, etc -- and make it as 
> simple as possible so it doesn't get in the way of development. Now, 
> over time, as our community diversifies, the site can accommodate this 
> diversity and I think the numbers will represent that diversity.

I completely agree with Jim here. It's all about the website being an 
aid for people to come join the project and get involved. We need to be 
careful about finding the right balance between 'RAH RAH - aren't we the 
greatest project ever?' type of marketing, and sitting down and actually 
getting the work done to become one [1].

That's not to take away from the effort Dan made - I think it was a good 
idea even and its value was way more useful than any stat could describe.



Glynn

[1] And believe me, we're still light years behind and far from critical
     mass. However, we do have some amazingly talented and fun people in
     our community right now, and I hope that will continue to grow over
     the next couple of years.


From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 20 10:55:29 2006
From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:55:29 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [website-discuss] Stats from 06/14/06
In-Reply-To: <4497E55D.90804@sun.com>
References: <449320B3.5050808@sun.com> <20060616221012.GM821@eng.sun.com>
	<4494413E.3020807@sun.com> <4497E55D.90804@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44983691.6060802@sun.com>

Glynn Foster wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> 
>> In general, I'm not a big believer in measuring website data (or even 
>> list data) to associate that data to specific and oftentimes 
>> artificial events. It's just so easily manipulated to have much 
>> meaning. I'm more concerned with long term trends that represent where 
>> development (of code and/or community) is taking place.
>>
>> Also, I spend all my day on the lists/forums and in blog aggregators 
>> and very little time on the site itself. So, how would my behavior be 
>> measured on the site? In fact, I spend very little time on the net 
>> visiting web sites generally. Personally, I think our site should 
>> serve developers -- code, communities, forums, projects, etc -- and 
>> make it as simple as possible so it doesn't get in the way of 
>> development. Now, over time, as our community diversifies, the site 
>> can accommodate this diversity and I think the numbers will represent 
>> that diversity.
> 
> 
> I completely agree with Jim here. It's all about the website being an 
> aid for people to come join the project and get involved. We need to be 
> careful about finding the right balance between 'RAH RAH - aren't we the 
> greatest project ever?' type of marketing, and sitting down and actually 
> getting the work done to become one [1].
> 
> That's not to take away from the effort Dan made - I think it was a good 
> idea even and its value was way more useful than any stat could describe.


Although the website hit data didn't reflect much change from the 
anniversary effort, the Jive forums certainly did. The anniversary week 
-- week 53 -- blew away records for total views and unique visitors:
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=53_weeks_of_conversations


 > [1] And believe me, we're still light years behind and far from
 > critical mass. However, we do have some amazingly talented and fun
 > people in our community right now, and I hope that will continue to
 > grow over the next couple of years.


Yes, we had an excellent year, but critical mass is certainly years 
away, I agree. Although, to be honest, I don't have any clue what 
critical mass will look like when we get there. :) But more seriously, I 
think the community is establishing a solid foundation with a credible 
voice based on engineering -- not spin. We are so far beyond where I 
thought we'd be that I can't help but be optimistic.

I also wonder what the total numbers would look like if we combined the 
forums data with the website data. Also keep in mind that these numbers 
for the site and forums are *extremely* US-based.

Jim








From Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM  Tue Jun 20 19:23:21 2006
From: Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM (Eric Boutilier)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:23:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-mktg
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0606202122350.15344@laptop>

For background on what this is, see:

     http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416
     http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200

=============================
opensolaris-mktg 06/01 - 06/15
=============================

Threads or announcements originated by leaders during the period:

- Anniversary Tshirt design
- Anniversary t-shirts on CafePress
- Anniversary web button available
- Banner ad is ready
- Contributor Award Winners are posted
- Contributor Awards link on OpenSolaris.org home page
- Copy for anniversary banner on home page
- First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
- OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
- ServerWatch Awards open source community runner up
- T-shirts
- [Fwd: Re: [cab-discuss] Do we have our winners?]
- opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
     by Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)

- DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
- HI--Who's writing the announcement for first 	anniversary?
- Technorati Tag for OpenSolaris?
- Update: Field marketing materials/collateral...
- [Fwd: May 2006 - The Software Connection]
- [Fwd: News in 99.5: Sun leads UNIX Market;  Schwartz on the Channel; ZFS Guide]
     by Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)

- IRC chat in the website: prototype
- Nominations
- You are Invited!  Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!
     by dp at eng.sun.com (Dan Price)

- OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
     by Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster)

- Contributor award nominations
     by Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch)

- Nominations
     by benr at cuddletech.com (Ben Rockwood)

================================================================

Size of all threads during period:

Thread size     Topic
-----------     -----
      24       Copy for anniversary banner on home page
      12       You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!
      11       opensolaris.org home page anniversary content
      10       Contributor Award Winners are posted
       9       OpenSolaris Anniversary Webcast -> Net Talk -> Take 10
       9       Metrics
       8       Copy for anniversary banner
       8       Anniversary Tshirt design
       6       First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       5       T-shirts
       5       Early article jumping the gun
       5       Banner ad is ready
       4       Review Request
       4       OpenSolaris Contributor Awards Nominations
       4       DRAFT of announcement--Please Comment!
       3       anniv. news content final draft for review
       3       REMINDER: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 7th 7am PT
       3       Problem with the UnixVille polls?
       3       Nominations
       3       Anniversary t-shirts on CafePress
       2       osol nominations
       2       nomination
       2       Notes: OpenSolaris anniversary meeting Thurs June 1st 7am PT
       2       Nomination for Jorg Schilling
       2       First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards - LAST
       2       Contributor award nominations
       2       Anniversary web button available
       1       nominee
       1       my nominations
       1       [Fwd: News in 99.5: Sun leads UNIX Market; Schwartz on the Channel; ZFS Guide]
       1       [Fwd: May 2006 - The Software Connection]
       1       Update: Field marketing materials/collateral...
       1       Technorati Tag for OpenSolaris?
       1       Sun lost one of it's biggest and oldest x86 customer
       1       Slight changes to the text for earlier nominations
       1       ServerWatch Awards open source community runner up
       1       Resend: OpenSolaris Contributor Award nomination
       1       Reminder: First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       1       Re[2]: You are Invited! Birthday Blog Party on June 14th!
       1       Polish Open Solaris User Group
       1       Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-mktg
       1       Opensolaris contributor nominations
       1       OpenSolaris at OSCON
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Award nomination
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nominees
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nominations
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Award Nomination
       1       OpenSolaris Contributor Award
       1       Open Solaris Contributor Award
       1       OSCA Nominations
       1       Nomination for Moinak Ghosh
       1       Nomination for Frank Hofmann
       1       Nomination : Rich Teer
       1       My nominations for the First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       1       IRC chat in the website: prototype
       1       HI--Who's writing the announcement for first anniversary?
       1       First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards - LAST CHANCE
       1       Do we have our winners?]
       1       DEADLINE June 12 First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       1       Contributor Awards link on OpenSolaris.org home page
       1       Contributor Award Nomination
       1       CLOSED First Annual OpenSolaris Contributor Awards
       1       2nd anniv. news content update for final review
================================================================

Posting activity by person for period:

# of posts Ldr  By
---------- --- ------------------------------------------------
      44    *  sara.dornsife at sun.com (sara dornsife)
      23    *  laura.ramsey at sun.com (laura ramsey)
       9    *  patrick.finch at sun.com (patrick finch)
       9    *  dp at eng.sun.com (dan price)
       9       dclarke at blastwave.org (dennis clarke)
       7       bonnie.corwin at sun.com (bonnie corwin)
       6       rich.teer at rite-group.com (rich teer)
       6       mo137222 at jurassic.sfbay.sun.com (michelle olson)
       6    *  benr at cuddletech.com (ben rockwood)
       5    *  tim.foster at sun.com (tim foster)
       4       jim.grisanzio at sun.com (jim grisanzio)
       3       webmink at sun.com (simon phipps)
       3       spp at unixsa.net (stephen potter)
       3       karyn.ritter at sun.com (karyn ritter)
       3       glynn.foster at sun.com (glynn foster)
       3       derek.cicero at sun.com (derek cicero)
       2       sks at cvok.co.uk (sean sprague)
       2       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (joerg schilling)
       2       roman at ensecure.org (neal dias)
       2       rmilkowski at task.gda.pl (robert milkowski)
       2       p.tribble at herts.ac.uk (peter tribble)
       2       martin.man at sun.com (martin man)
       2       darkjoker at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?ignacio_marambio_cat=e1n?=)
       1       wp at hawaiilinux.us (w. wayne liauh)
       1       venky.tv at sun.com (venky)
       1       theuser at orbit.in-berlin.de (tatjana s heuser)
       1       teresa.giacomini at sun.com (teresa giacomini)
       1       takaaki.higuchi at sun.com (takaaki higuchi)
       1       susan.weber at sun.com (susan weber)
       1       stevel at sun.com (stephen lau)
       1       rasputnik at gmail.com (dick davies)
       1       ow.mun.heng at wdc.com (ow mun heng)
       1       ormandj at corenode.com (david j. orman)
       1       opensolaris.org at gmail.com (chris lawson)
       1       nameistao at gmail.com (tao chen)
       1       moazam at unixville.com (moazam raja)
       1       michelle.olson at sun.com (michelle olson)
       1       michael.ditto at sun.com (mike ditto)
       1       matty at daemons.net (matty)
       1       m.cerveny at iol.cz (martin cerveny)
       1       jayakara.kini at sun.com (jayakara kini)
       1       jayakara.kini at sun.com (jayakara kini [home])
       1       jamesd.wi at gmail.com (james dickens)
       1       james.walker at sun.com (jim walker)
       1       ian.c.campbell at eds.com (campbell, ian c)
       1       ghee.teo at sun.com (ghee.teo at sun.com)
       1       erast at gnusolaris.org (erast benson)
       1       dougs at truemail.co.th (doug scott)
       1       don.traub at sun.com (don traub)
       1       david.comay at sun.com (david.comay at sun.com)
       1       chekristo at gmail.com (=?utf-8?q?ch=c3=a9_kristo?=)
       1       casper.dik at sun.com (casper.dik at sun.com)
       1       calum.benson at sun.com (calum benson)
       1       binarycrusader at gmail.com (shawn walker)
       1       bart.smaalders at sun.com (bart smaalders)
================================================================

Discussion URL: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=14
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 21 08:10:29 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:10:29 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] ON THE RADAR--EuroApachecon, LinuxWorld, OSCON
Message-ID: <44996165.10907@sun.com>


Hi folks!
Lots of events on the radar that we might want to take a look at...

EuroApacheCon--June 26 - 30  Dublin
We have 2 passes (Exhibits and sessions) for any of the folks in the 
Dublin OpenSolaris usergroup. I've pinged Tim F. on this.
Let me know, and we'll get those passes locked in!


OSCON--July 24-28th--Portland
Lots of excitement already--booth, Teresa is coordinating alot of 
engineering involvement.  I think there are BOF suggestions already in 
the works;
If we want to do our now famous "after hours" party, let's vote now! 


LinuxWorld SF--.org pavillion--August 14 - 17
Teresa G. is coordinating OpenSolaris participation in the .org 
pavillion--and there's been email traffic about it from Ben Rockwood, 
Alan Duboff and others. I'd like to consider doing some sort of a 
"barcamp" along side this. It could be as easy as it was to host the 
SVOSUG event at the Thirsty Bear at JavaOne.  BUT we'll need some 
dedicated volunteers and individuals willing to play to make this happen.

Do we want to?  I'd volunteer to coordinate...

Cheers!
LKR






From Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 21 09:02:48 2006
From: Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM (Fintan Ryan)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:02:48 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] ON THE RADAR--EuroApachecon, LinuxWorld, OSCON
In-Reply-To: <44996165.10907@sun.com>
References: <44996165.10907@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44996DA8.7060303@sun.com>

hi,

> 
> EuroApacheCon--June 26 - 30  Dublin
> We have 2 passes (Exhibits and sessions) for any of the folks in the 
> Dublin OpenSolaris usergroup. I've pinged Tim F. on this.
> Let me know, and we'll get those passes locked in!
> 

Tims on holidays this week, but I'll say yes for the group ;).

- Fintan
-- 
fintanr at sun.com   http://blogs.sun.com/fintanr	
@dub03              http://www.opensolaris.org


From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 21 09:30:07 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:30:07 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] ON THE RADAR--EuroApachecon, LinuxWorld, OSCON
In-Reply-To: <44996DA8.7060303@sun.com>
References: <44996165.10907@sun.com> <44996DA8.7060303@sun.com>
Message-ID: <4499740F.80204@sun.com>


Great! shall I put down your name and Tim's name?
LKR


Fintan Ryan wrote:

> hi,
>
>>
>> EuroApacheCon--June 26 - 30  Dublin
>> We have 2 passes (Exhibits and sessions) for any of the folks in the 
>> Dublin OpenSolaris usergroup. I've pinged Tim F. on this.
>> Let me know, and we'll get those passes locked in!
>>
>
> Tims on holidays this week, but I'll say yes for the group ;).
>
> - Fintan





From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 21 09:50:12 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:50:12 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] OpenSolaris Anniversary/Solaris Press Coverage Report
Message-ID: <449978C4.8060608@sun.com>


Compliments of Liza Curran, Our PR manager from Sun Microsystems...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi all:

Below please find the Solaris/OpenSolaris wrap-up report that includes a 
summary of the dinner on Monday, 6/19 in San Francisco, and the most 
up-to-date coverage as a result of media pre-briefings, the dinner and 
the press release.

The dinner in San Francisco, which was hosted by Sun executives Tom 
Goguen, Chris Ratcliffe, Josh Berkus and Stephen Harpster was well 
attended, despite the news that day of Bill Gates' step down from 
Microsoft. We were fortunate to have David Young and Jason Hoffman of 
Joyent, and Jim Curran of Twenty First Century Communications 
participate at the dinner. There were a total of seven reporters and one 
industry analyst who attended, including: Tom Foremski, Silicon Valley 
Watcher; Dan Farber, ZDnet; Debbie Gage, Baseline; Chris Preimesberger, 
eWeek; Vance McCarthy, OE Trends; Steven Hill, Network Computing; 
Bernard Golden, CIO; John Rymer, Forrester. Just about everyone who 
attended stated that this was a valuable use of their time, not only 
because the restaurant and food was fabulous, but because they were able 
to speak with the customers and get some quality time with our 
executives. A few folks mentioned that they would've loved to hear about 
the revenue growth numbers that Tom and Chris were diligently trying to 
get approvals for.

As of this morning, four articles appeared as a result of the media 
pre-briefings, and eleven articles appeared as a result of the 
media/analyst dinner and release. We are continuing to track for 
coverage and will share that with the team accordingly.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

Best,
Liza and team

============================

Media pre-briefings with Chris Ratcliffe and Josh Berkus
* Sean Kerner, Internetnews.com, 6/13
* Timothy Prickett-Morgan, 6/14 (joined by Stephen Harpster)
* Sean Kerner, Internetnews.com, 6/16
* Jay Lyman, Linux Insider, 6/16
* Shelley Solheim, IDG, 6/16
* Timothy Prickett-Morgan, IT Jungle, 6/16
* Joe "Zonker" Brockmeier, Linux.com, 6/16
* Charlie Babcock, InformationWeek, 6/16

+++++++++++++++++
Headlines:
*OpenSolaris Celebrates First Anniversary -- SDA India, 6/21 (also 
appeared on SDA Asia)
*OpenSolaris: Success Story, or Too Soon to Say? -- TechNewsWorld, 6/21 
(also appeared on LinuxInsider, E-Commerce Times)
*Sun's 5,000 layoffs and 5 million OpenSolaris downloads -- ZDNet, 6/20
*Sun CEO will announce thousands of layoffs this Thursday -- ZDNet. 6/20 
(also appeared on Builder Au, Australia)
*Sun Solaris Embraces PostgreSQL -- Internetnews.com, 6/20 (also 
appeared on DevX, Database Journal)
* OpenSolaris: One Year Down, Participation Up -- IT Jungle, 6/15
* OpenSolaris Turns One, Server Watch, 6/15
* Happy Birthday OpenSolaris, Internetnews, 6/14

+++++++++++++++++
Full Text:

OpenSolaris Celebrates First Anniversary
SDA India
June 21, 2006
http://www.sda-india.com/sda/news/psecom,id,9501,nodeid,1,_language,India.html 


It has been one year since Open Solaris community went live! Since open 
sourcing the Solaris Operating System (OS) in June 2005, Sun has seen 
the OpenSolaris community grow to more than 14,000 members while Solaris 
10 has exceeded 5 million registered license shipments. "Since open 
sourcing the Solaris OS last year, we have exceeded our business and 
adoption growth targets year-over-year. Over 85 percent of the Fortune 
500 have the Solaris 10 OS in development or production," said Rich 
Green, executive vice president of Software at Sun Microsystems. "This 
tremendous growth is a direct result of our three part strategy to 
invest in and deliver the most advanced operating system on the planet, 
adopt a new Software as a Service business model and reinvigorate the 
Sun developer community with free and open source software."

The OpenSolaris community has accomplished many milestones in its first 
year with over 14,000 members, 29 user groups around the world, 40 
communities, 27 active projects and more than 100 putbacks. Sun also 
announced availability today of the next update to the Solaris 10 OS, 
Solaris 10 6/06, that has been enhanced with new features developed in 
both the OpenSolaris and wider open source communities. Key features 
include Solaris ZFS 1.0, a revolutionary new file system that can 
provide one of the highest levels of data integrity and security, as 
well as PostgreSQL for Solaris, Predictive Self-Healing for x86 and x64 
servers equipped with the AMD Opteron processor and new high-performance 
networking functionality.

++++++++++++++++
OpenSolaris: Success Story, or Too Soon to Say?
TechNewsWorld.com
Jay Lyman
June 21, 2006
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/51216.html

"Quite frankly, I've been pleasantly surprised," said Josh Berkus, a 
PostgreSQL developer who was hired by Sun earlier this year. "Usually, 
corporate software that gets open sourced has a tremendous failure rate. 
Historically, they've had a very poor record of attracting contributors 
and adoption."

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Sun Microsystems (Nasdaq: SUNW) is touting the growth of its 
one-year-old open source project OpenSolaris, indicating the open code 
effort for its formerly closed Solaris operating system has drawn 
thousands of developers, hundreds of contributions, and millions in 
revenue.

Celebrating the OpenSolaris anniversary this week, Sun released the 
latest version of Solaris 10, which counts OpenSolaris enhancements 
among its new and improved features.

There is still some skepticism of OpenSolaris, with some wondering 
whether it is too soon to declare it a success. Some Linux and other 
open source software proponents continue to resist Sun, which has had 
its missteps with open source in the past.

Nevertheless, Sun credited the open sourcing of Solaris code and 
development for renewed Solaris 10 operating system (OS) gains.

"What you see in our announcement is what we think is a ringing 
endorsement of the strategy we've taken with Solaris 10," Sun Director 
of Solaris Marketing Chris Ratcliffe told LinuxInsider. "We're very 
pleased with what we're seeing."

Open Growth
Ratcliffe reported that after starting basically from scratch to draw 
developers with the OpenSolaris strategy last June, the community around 
the effort now includes more than 14,000 members with only about 1,500 
of them being Sun employees.

Sun also highlighted how some of the new functionality in Solaris 10, 
such as a new ZFS file system and support for the PostgreSQL open source 
database, were among 100 contributions from OpenSolaris development.

"They have been developed whole or partially in the open source 
community," Ratcliffe said. "At this point, pretty much everything is 
being done in the open."

Pleasantly Surprised
Despite Sun's past mistakes and lackluster open source efforts, the 
company has committed what was needed -- in code and capital -- to 
create a community around OpenSolaris, according to Josh Berkus, a 
PostgreSQL developer who was hired by Sun earlier this year to help with 
the PostgreSQL database support in Solaris 10.

"Quite frankly, I've been pleasantly surprised," Berkus told 
LinuxInsider. "Usually, corporate software that gets open sourced has a 
tremendous failure rate. Historically, they've had a very poor record of 
attracting contributors and adoption."

OpenSolaris, however, had a solid user base and was not open sourced 
because it was failing, and represents Sun's improvement from prior open 
source errors, according to Berkus.

"In working with open source, Sun has gone through some rough and less 
successful experiences with some of their things and has learned from 
that," he said.

New Development Model
Open source developers appreciate Sun's continuing investment in 
OpenSolaris and its community, Ratcliffe said.

"They appreciate that we haven't just thrown it over the wall and walked 
away," he said. "It is our new development model."

Berkus, who said OpenSolaris provides another open source operating 
system platform choice, said he was stunned by the fact that with more 
than five million registered Solaris 10 licensees, Sun is actually 
making more money from OpenSolaris than the company did when Solaris was 
closed.

Still an Experiment
The OpenSolaris move may have helped drive more development or momentum 
for Solaris 10, but the Sun software was already "a venerable," leading 
Unix operating system, Interarbor Solutions Principal Analyst Dana 
Gardner told LinuxInsider.

"I don't think you can draw the line [between OpenSolaris and Solaris 10 
success]," he said. "What's more important is the fact that Solaris 10 
has been successful and that would probably have been the case whether 
they opened Solaris or not."

Gardner also indicated there is still dissension within Sun about 
whether opening Solaris was the right thing to do.

"I kind of see this as still an ongoing experiment," he said. "It's too 
soon to tell. I don't think we can determine whether the long-term 
viability of Sun or Solaris have been assured by this move to openness."

Benefits for All
There have also been criticisms from Linux supporters who argue that 
Linux development benefits the entire ecosystem around the open source 
operating system, whereas OpenSolaris development benefits primarily Sun.

In response, Ratcliffe pointed to the fact that 97 percent of Fortune 
100 companies and more than 85 percent of the Fortune 500 have Solaris 
10 in production or development.

"I would make the argument that a significant part of the IT industry, a 
tremendous percentage of the industry period, is benefiting from 
OpenSolaris," he said.
++++++++++++++++
Sun's 5,000 layoffs and 5 million OpenSolaris downloads
Dan Farber
ZDNet Blogs
June 20, 2005
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=3221

Digg This!

Tom Foremski has the scoop on Sun's forthcoming layoffs. The axe is 
scheduled to fall on Thursday, which is the same day that Jonathan 
Schwartz will be giving a speech at the Supernova 2006 conference in San 
Francisco (I'll be there). Tom and I both attended a dinner last night 
Sun hosted to mark the first year of OpenSolaris. Stephen Harpster, 
director of OpenSolaris at Sun, told me that Sun is not trying to take 
away share from Linux. "We are going for Solaris developers," he said. 
"People who download OpenSolaris know it has features beyond Linux." 
Targeting Solaris developers is the natural first step, but why not go 
after Linux and the lower hanging HP-UX, which Schwartz said in an open 
letter to HP CEO Mark Hurd should be converged with Solaris 10.
He noted that government and universities who abandoned Solaris and now 
coming back to the fold with OpenSolaris. Sun has even hired student 
evangelists, mostly in India and China, Harpster said.

With 5 million licenses in the first years, Tom Goguen, vice president 
of system software at Sun, said OpenSolaris adoption exceeded 
expectation, calling it "wildly successful." Most of the Fortune 500 
have downloaded OpenSolaris to at least check it out, he said. The big, 
custom Linux shop Google has downloaded Open Solaris, but Goguen 
wouldn't say if the company was a paying customer. In fact, he was 
unable to quantify the OpenSolaris revenue contributions to Sun, as Tom 
points out in his post. Apparently, Sun hasn't broken out those numbers 
before, which are probably a bit fuzzy given nobody 'buys' an 
OpenSolaris license, and the finance and legal nixed the disclosure.

According to Goguen, among the registered licenses, two-thirds were for 
x86 systems, with 31 percent Dell, 25 percent on Dell and 24 percent 
IBM. The rest were on Sun hardware and a few other vendors. In total 
OpenSolaris is supported on 735 systems, which is more than Red Hat 
Enteprise Linux 4, Goguen said. Five separate distributions of 
OpenSolaris have also been launched, some addressing markets Sun hasn't 
focused on. Some other numbers:

14,000 registered community members (12,500+ non-Sun, 1,500+ are Sun 
employees)
39,300 postings to OpenSolaris discussion groups
33,000+ recorded downloads of OpenSolaris source code (actual is 
probably higher) 30 registered OpenSolaris user groups 440 bugs reported 
by the community
147 fixed / closed / in progress bugs reported by the community
170 community code contributions offered to OpenSolaris
100 community code contributions integrated into OpenSolaris (putbacks)

Goguen said that one of the biggest challenges is managing the 
put-backs, dealing with code management processes as the community 
contributes to the code base, especially with Nevada, the next version 
of Solaris 10.

++++++++++++++++++++
Sun CEO will announce thousands of layoffs this Thursday
ZDNet
Tom Foremksi
June 20, 2006
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Foremski/?p=88

Digg This!

Sun Microsystems (SUNW) will announce on Thursday a large round of 
layoffs in a bid to cut about one-half billion dollars in annual costs 
as it transforms itself into a broad based computer software and 
services company.

Jonathan Schwartz, CEO of Sun, will make the announcement to staff and 
investors, said a Sun source. The cuts are expected but the timing was 
not known.

On May 31, Sun said it would have to cut 4,000 to 5,000 staff over the 
coming six months. This represents about 11 to 13 per cent of its global 
workforce of 37,500. Sun said the layoffs would provide cost savings of 
between $480m and $590m annually by its fourth fiscal quarter 2007. The 
layoffs will be the first under Sun's new CEO Jonathan Schwartz, who 
recently replaced co-founder Scott McNealy.

Sun's culture makes layoffs a very difficult decision and one that its 
long serving top executives would rather avoid. Sun's software business 
model is based on charging a monthly license fee per user for support 
services and maintenance. Scott McNealy, co-founder of Sun, stepped down 
as CEO in April after 22 years as the company's top executive. Ed 
Zander, former president of Sun, and now CEO of Motorola, left Sun in 
2002 and said in an interview that managing Sun during the downturn was 
very challenging.

Sun's culture is accustomed to very fast growth, it is used to hiring 
thousands of staff rather than laying them off. During the boom years of 
Internet 1.0, Sun's hardware business was growing at 40 per cent plus 
annually. The margins on its SPARC-based servers were among the most 
lucrative in the industry. Sun used to boast in its marketing literature 
that it put the "dot" in dotcom because of its huge customer base in 
Telco markets and among Internet startups.

This close association with the growth of the Internet hit the company 
hard during the dotcom bust. It had to cut people and change its 
strategy. It now has a broader based revenue model that focuses on IT 
solutions, which includes hardware, software and IT services.

This is a model IBM adopted under its former CEO Lou Gerstner in the 
mid-1990s. And it's a model that Sun rival Hewlett-Packard also adopted. 
Although the business models are similar, Sun, HP, and IBM have large 
differences in their business focus. One thing they now all have in 
common is that they have embraced open source software and open industry 
hardware and software platforms.

Sun, however, is a late entrant to open source markets. This week it 
celebrated its one year anniversary of the release of an open-source 
version of the Solaris operating system.

Tom Goguen, vice president of marketing for Sun's Solaris group said, 
"I'm very pleased with the adoption rate of open Solaris with more than 
5m licenses. I'm not saying all are in production, but it is more than 
Red Hat, or any other Linux distribution. And I'm very happy with 
revenues from this group."

Mr Goguen said he was prepared to release the financial numbers for his 
business group on Monday evening at a press event but Sun's lawyers 
stopped him at the eleventh hour. He said he conferred with Sun CEO 
Jonathan Schwartz who gave him the green light, and he said he hoped to 
release those numbers very soon.

Sun's embrace of open source?by releasing an open source version of 
Solaris?took time because there were many legal and trademark issues, 
said Mr. Goguen. Its open source push includes open source middleware, 
related components such as virtualization, and web services applications.

Sun's software business model is based on charging a monthly license fee 
per user for support services and maintenance. Its other revenues come 
from hardware and IT services.

Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron server microprocessor has become a key 
part of Sun's revamped server line, providing users with substantial 
savings on electric power. Electric power consumption has become the 
single most limiting factor in the expansion of many computing facilities.

Some data center centers are at the limit of their allocated power 
consumption. By installing low power consuming servers they can increase 
their processing power plus save millions of dollars in annual operating 
costs.

These new product lines could help rebuild revenues and profits, but Sun 
will have to prove that it can compete against Hewlett-Packard, IBM and 
others, to provide data centers with fast servers running on less 
electric power, plus provide advanced data center management tools to 
reduce IT labor costs.

Sun's strategy also includes computer grids as a future significant 
revenue source. It is building and operating computer grids and offering 
hosted services for scientific applications. It hopes others will follow 
its example and build large data centers using its hardware and software.

Sun says Google is among licensees for its software and it claims 85 per 
cent of Fortune 100 companies have also registered as licensees.

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Sun Solaris Embraces PostgreSQL
Internetnews.com
Sean Michael Kerner
June 20, 2006
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3614606

After a few delays, Sun Microsystems (Quote, Chart) is now fully 
supporting the open source PostgreSQL database on its Solaris 10 
operating system.

The new support follows the June 6th update to Solaris 10, including 
improvements to networking, AMD chip support and a new file system.

Sun originally announced support for PostgreSQL last November. Since 
then, Sun has hired PostgreSQL core team member Josh Berkus as 
PostgreSQL Lead for Sun's Database Technology Group.

Berkus noted that in addition to himself, staff members from Sun's 
Performance Engineering Group and Market Development Engineering Groups 
are spending part of their time on PostgreSQL improvements.

"It's been more of an effort of a bunch of different Sun staff member 
providing a little bit of input rather than a whole bunch of dedicated 
staff," Berkus explained.

Sun's embrace of full enterprise support for PostgreSQL in Solaris 10 
isn't about pushing its preferred development and runtime platform for 
most x64 architectures.

Chris Ratcliffe, director of marketing for System Software at Sun, told 
internetnews.com that it's just about giving customers choice.

"One of the things we find is that all of corporate customers are 
looking to reduce costs," Ratcliffe said. "One of the ways in which many 
of them are doing that is that they are looking at their existing 
enterprise deployment stacks and seeing other things that they can 
replace with an open source product that is good enough."

"For example, we have some customers who believe that they can replace 
30 percent of their existing commercial databases with an open source 
alternative and it will actually reduce their cost and it does meet 
their requirements in terms of availability and scalability," Ratcliffe 
added.

The Solaris 10 update also includes support for the ZettaByte File 
System (ZFS) that Sun has been testing in OpenSolaris since last year 
when it first made Solaris 10 source code available in order to create 
future versions of the operating system apart from Sun's proprietary 
Solaris efforts.

ZFS is an update to Sun's 25-year-old Unix File System (UFS), and is a 
128-bit file system with enhanced error detection and correction 
capabilities. Though ZFS represents a leap forward over UFS, Sun doesn't 
expect a customer stampede to upgrade just yet.

"The currency of the data center is people's information," Ratcliffe 
said. "Sowe expect people to be cautiously optimistic with ZFS and what 
that means is they will take and will do some testing and deployments 
before they do a wholesale migration."

Ratcliffe expects that enterprise customers will take six to nine months 
to ramp up to ZFS and along the way Sun will offer services and 
documentation to help ease transition.

"We're also giving people the ability to run ZFS and UFS side by side 
it's not like everybody has to migrate immediately," Ratcliffe noted. 
"In terms of compatibility, UFS will be there and supported for some 
time moving forward."

Solaris 10 6/06 also includes optimizations in the network stack around 
SSL (define) and UDP (define) performance.

Ratcliffe explained that Sun has put an SSL (define) cache into the 
Solaris kernel, which could lead to a performance improvement of 25 to 
45 percent, depending on what the users are running and how they 
benchmark. The UDP enhancements have the potential to improve 
performance by 90 percent.

Sun's Predictive Self-Healing feature, which notifies a system 
administrator when a component has failed and then moves anything 
running on that component elsewhere, is now being extended to include 
AMD-based processors.

The support is the first time the full suite of Sun's predictive 
self-healing features are available on a non-SPARC platform. As for 
whether Sun and Intel have a similar relationship, Ratcliffe was mum.

The next update to Solaris 10 is expected in the fall and could mark the 
debut of Trusted Extensions for Solaris 10.

Trusted Extensions is essentially the next generation of Sun's Trusted 
Solaris product and is expected to have Common Criteria evaluation level 
of EAL 4+.

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OpenSolaris: One Year Down, Participation Up
IT Jungle
June 15, 2006
by Timothy Prickett Morgan
http://www.itjungle.com/tug/tug061506-story01.html


The OpenSolaris project that Sun Microsystems created to foster a
development community around its Solaris variant of the Unix operating
system is celebrating its first birthday this week--assuming you call a
birthday the day that source code was actually made available to developers
to play with. While the OpenSolaris project has come far in the past year,
but there is still work that needs to be done to allow more significant
participation in the project from techies outside of Sun itself.

Perhaps one of the largest obstacles that Sun has to overcome has nothing
to do with technology, but an understanding among IT professionals about
what OpenSolaris is and what it isn't. OpenSolaris is not a commercial
operating system that is meant to be deployed in the data centers and the
departments of the world, but rather a means for companies, academic
institutions, government agencies, and individuals to participate in the
creation of future Solaris releases and versions. It is also a vehicle by
which Sun hopes to extend Solaris from its existing Sparc and X64 platforms
to other platforms, such as the Polaris variant of Solaris that a
sub-project in the OpenSolaris community is spearheading to port Solaris to
IBM's and Freescale Semiconductor's variants of the Power and PowerPC
processors. OpenSolaris is a development community, just like the Fedora
community created by Red Hat and openSUSE community created by Novell.

There's a good reason why vendors want to create such communities, and
Chris Ratcliffe, director of marketing for Sun's Solaris software products,
explains. "The source code for Solaris has always been available, but you
had to pay for it or be part of an academic institution. The interesting
thing to me was that the people who had access to the source code would not
only report bugs, but they also usually also sent in a fix as well." No
operating system vendor in its right mind would walk away from that
proposition--unless they were more concerned with keeping control of the
code and wringing money from it. That didn't work for Solaris, and there
may come a day when it doesn't work for Microsoft's Windows. The Linux
model of open development and commercialized support provides all the
benefits of a proprietary operating system and opens up new possibilities.
Sun has to let go, of course, and that was not easy. It took a changing of
the executive guard at Sun to get this done, and even then, it still took
many years. But, having gone open source, Solaris development should speed
up. "Now, we're getting feedback a lot faster and a lot earlier in the
development cycle than we used to get," says Stephen Harpster, director of
open source software in the Solaris organization.

OpenSolaris is still a work in progress, however. Harpster says that Sun
has finally chosen a source code management system, called Mercurial, which
is in beta test and is delivering source code in read-only form right now.
Mercurial will be operational by the end of the year, and when it is, the
amount of contributions from the outside world will increase significantly,
he predicts. Right now, to make contributions, the 14,000 members of the
OpenSolaris community have to have a Sun engineer buddy who can review the
code on the other side of the Sun firewall and post it into the Sun code
management system. There are only 1,500 OpenSolaris community members
inside Sun, compared to 12,500 members outside of Sun. Which means there
are only so many patches and projects that can be pumped through the
OpenSolaris project. Once Mercurial is running, a lot more members of the
community will be able to put code through the scrubbers and help get it
added to the development release of the Unix platform. Perhaps most
importantly, Harpster says that Mercurial is a distributed code repository,
which will allow code to be spread around the world on different servers
and accessible to users coming from many networks, but will be managed
centrally.

As part of the birthday celebrations for OpenSolaris, Sun released a bunch
of statistics to describe the project. The project has over 39,300 postings
in its discussion groups and has distributed more than 33,000 instances of
OpenSolaris. (And just to be clear, OpenSolaris is not the same thing as
the freely distributed, but compiled, Solaris 10 operating system, which
has close to 5 million registered downloads in its 18 months of shipment.)
Ratcliffe says that Sun has no idea how many instances of OpenSolaris have
been distributed through peer-to-peer networks like BitTorrent. To date,
the OpenSolaris community has reported 440 bugs in the future "Nevada"
Solaris release and have fixed 147 bugs. The community has donated 170
pieces of code and 100 of them have been accepted into the development
release so far. OpenSolaris also has 30 user groups worldwide, and 32
universities are using OpenSolaris in their curriculum (the target was 10
universities, by the way). Sun has also fostered 40 student evangelists to
talk up the virtues of Solaris at these universities, and hopes to have 100
by next year.

Solaris 10 is comprised of approximately 5 million lines of code, Harpster
estimates, and about 90 percent of it has been released as open source
through OpenSolaris. The remaining code is device drivers, which Harpster
says third party peripheral suppliers are sometimes reluctant to put out as
open source, and a smattering of third party code from companies that are
no longer in business.

++++++++++++++++
OpenSolaris Turns One
Server Watch
By Sean Michael Kerner
June 15, 2006
http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3613726


One year ago this week Sun officially opened the doors to its OpenSolaris
open source operating system effort. At the time, there were questions as
to whether there would in fact be a community that would grow around
OpenSolaris, whether it would actually get used, and how its technologies
may or may not be adopted by others.

Like any toddler, OpenSolaris is walking, not running, into its second
year.

"The ramp-up time has been amazing to be perfectly honest," Chris Ratcliffe
director of marketing for System Software at Sun told internetnews.com. "In
the year since we've gone live it's just been phenomenal to see the number
of people that have signed up."

The Open Solaris initiative was formally launched in January 2005. The
first code drop and "opening" of the project occurred on June 14, 2005.
 From June 14, 2005 to June 13, 2006 Sun claims the OpenSolaris community
has garnered more than14,000 members of which 1,500 are actually Sun
employees.

In the same period there have been more than 33,000 downloads of
OpenSolaris source code. That figure, however, is likely to be inaccurate
since it is difficult to properly track P2P client (such as BitTorrent)
download and mirror site downloads with a high degree of accuracy.

A key to success for any open source project is code contributions from the
community. OpenSolaris has fared reasonably well here, too. In the last
365 days Sun claims it has had 170 code contributions from the community of
which 111 have been integrated into OpenSolaris.

That said, contributions by the community back into OpenSolaris represents
one of the largest challenges that the project faces according to
Ratcliffe. The problem is that contributions back into the community are
handled by a buddy system.

"So if you want to contribute back into the community as a contributor you
have to work or partner with a Sun engineer," Ratcliffe explained. "What
we're working on at the moment is to automate that process so that users
don't have to partner with a Sun engineer and we can still get the code
through all appropriate code review cycles."

The code review process according to Ratcliffe is critical to ensuring code
quality and compatibility. Code contributions are an area that Sun is
hoping to see larger contributions in overall for OpenSolaris.

"We expect to see a lot more activity where we're not just looking at
contributions of relatively small bits of code or bug fixes but also the
larger projects that start to come in," Ratcliffe said.

One such example that caught Ratcliffe by surprise was an effort by the
community to port OpenSolaris to IBM's POWER architecture. OpenSolaris has
also spawned no less than three derivative open source distributions:
SchilliX, BeleniX, and Nexanta. In the case of Nexanta, the OpenSolaris
kernel is added to a Debian GNU/Linux core derived from the Ubuntu Linux
project.

"Personally I couldn't have imagined it a year ago," Ratcliffe said of
Solaris being used at the core of a Linux distribution. "Nexanta is a
really interesting example of a company that has seen a requirement and
they are just going and addressing that requirement and that's what we want
to see go and happen."

Other key OpenSolaris bits are starting to find their way into other OS's
as well. The DTrace, diagnostic tool, which enables a systems admin to
trace point in the kernel and collect data without the need to shut down a
system, is a key part of Sun's Solaris 10. There is now a port of Dtrace
that is being developed by FreeBSD developers for the FreeBSD operating
system.

++++++++++++++++
Happy Birthday OpenSolaris
By Sean Michael Kerner
Internetnews
June 14, 2006
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3613241

It was one year ago today that Sun officially opened the doors to its 
OpenSolaris open source operating system effort.

At the time there were questions as to whether there would in fact be a 
community that would grow around OpenSolaris, whether it would actually 
get used and how its technologies may or may not be adopted by others.

In fact, it would appear that OpenSolaris is a one year old that isn't 
just walking but is running.

"The ramp up time has been amazing to be perfectly honest," Chris 
Ratcliffe director of marketing for System Software at Sun told 
internetnews.com. "In the year since we've gone live it's just been 
phenomenal to see the number of people that have signed up. "

The Open Solaris initiative itself was formally launched in January of 
2005, thought the first code drop and 'opening' of the project occurred 
on June 14, 2005. From June 14, 2005 to June 13, 2006 Sun claims the 
OpenSolaris community has garnered over 14,000 members of which 1,500 
are actually Sun employees.

In the same period there have been over 33,000 downloads of OpenSolaris 
source code though that figure is likely to be inaccurate since it is 
difficult to properly track P2P client (such as BitTorrent) download and 
mirror site downloads with a high degree of accuracy.

A key to success for any open source project is code contributions from 
the community, an area where OpenSolaris has also apparently faired 
reasonably well. In the last 365 days Sun claims it has had 170 code 
contributions from the community of which 111 have been integrated into 
OpenSolaris.

That said, contributions by the community back into OpenSolaris 
represents one of the largest challenges that the project faces 
according to Ratcliffe. The problem is that contributions back into the 
community are handled by a buddy system.

"So if you want to contribute back into the community as a contributor 
you have to work or partner with a Sun engineer," Ratcliffe explained. 
"What we're working on at the moment is to automate that process so that 
users don't have to partner with a Sun engineer and we can still get the 
code through all appropriate code review cycles."

The code review process according to Ratcliffe is critical to ensuring 
code quality and compatibility. Code contributions are an area that Sun 
is hoping to see larger contributions in overall for OpenSolaris.

"We expect to see a lot more activity where we're not just looking at 
contributions of relatively small bits of code or bug fixes but also the 
larger projects that start to come in," Ratcliffe said.

One such example that caught Ratcliffe by surprise was an effort by the 
community to port OpenSolaris to IBM's POWER architecture. OpenSolaris 
has also spawned no less than three derivative open source 
distributions: SchilliX, BeleniX and Nexanta. In the case of Nexanta, 
the OpenSolaris kernel is added to a Debian GNU/Linux core derived from 
the Ubuntu Linux project.

"Personally I couldn't have imagined it a year ago," Ratcliffe said of 
Solaris being used at the core of a Linux distribution. "Nexanta is a 
really interesting example of a company that has seen a requirement and 
they are just going and addressing that requirement and that's what we 
want to see go and happen."

Other key OpenSolaris bits are starting to find their way into other 
OS's as well. The DTrace, diagnostic tool, which enables a systems admin 
to trace point in the kernel and collect data without the need to shut 
down a system, is a key part of Sun's Solaris 10. There is now a port of 
Dtrace that is being developed by FreeBSD developers for the FreeBSD 
operating system.

###

-- 

Liza Curran
Sun Microsystems, Inc. | Global Communications
O: 310.943.6865 | C: 310.237.8384
AIM: leesepr





From Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 21 11:46:58 2006
From: Teresa.Giacomini at Sun.COM (Teresa Giacomini)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:46:58 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] ON THE RADAR--EuroApachecon, LinuxWorld, OSCON
In-Reply-To: <44996165.10907@sun.com>
References: <44996165.10907@sun.com>
Message-ID: <44999422.5060001@Sun.COM>


Laura Ramsey wrote On 06/21/06 08:10,:

>
> Hi folks!
> Lots of events on the radar that we might want to take a look at...
>
> EuroApacheCon--June 26 - 30  Dublin
> We have 2 passes (Exhibits and sessions) for any of the folks in the 
> Dublin OpenSolaris usergroup. I've pinged Tim F. on this.
> Let me know, and we'll get those passes locked in!
>
>
> OSCON--July 24-28th--Portland
> Lots of excitement already--booth, Teresa is coordinating alot of 
> engineering involvement.  I think there are BOF suggestions already in 
> the works;
> If we want to do our now famous "after hours" party, let's vote now!
>
> LinuxWorld SF--.org pavillion--August 14 - 17
> Teresa G. is coordinating OpenSolaris participation in the .org 
> pavillion--and there's been email traffic about it from Ben Rockwood, 
> Alan Duboff and others. I'd like to consider doing some sort of a 
> "barcamp" along side this. It could be as easy as it was to host the 
> SVOSUG event at the Thirsty Bear at JavaOne.  BUT we'll need some 
> dedicated volunteers and individuals willing to play to make this happen.

Hey folks, Ben Rockwood has taken the lead on LinuxWorld SF.  There has 
been a small mixup.  We won't be in the .org pavilion, but we will be 
right across the aisle!  I'm just here to make sure you all have the 
equipment you need and such.

I think the "barcamp" idea is cool....

>
> Do we want to?  I'd volunteer to coordinate...
>
> Cheers!
> LKR
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> opensolaris-mktg mailing list
> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org



From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 22 08:16:48 2006
From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:16:48 -0400
Subject: [osol-mktg] ON THE RADAR--EuroApachecon, LinuxWorld, OSCON
In-Reply-To: <44996DA8.7060303@sun.com>
References: <44996165.10907@sun.com> <44996DA8.7060303@sun.com>
Message-ID: <449AB460.3020500@sun.com>


Hi Fintan and Tim (on vacay...)

You both have badges set for Euro Apachecon. I misunderstood about the 
session passes...there's one for you to share--and other folks there 
from Sun who are willing to share session badges for times when you both 
want to attend together.

Here's some basic information...

    % ApacheCon Europe 2006 will be held at the Burlington Hotel in 
Dublin, Ireland, June 26-30, 2006.

    % The conference schedule has 70 sessions listed and 20 tutorials 
covering Apache projects and technologies.

    % More info:  www.eu.apachecon.com <http://www.eu.apachecon.com/>.

    % Sun will chat up Java DB, based on Apache Derby; Apache JDO; 
Apache Roller; OpenSolaris  in our booth. It's a small stand really...
        Rebecca Hansen is the lead...and she's bringing some OpenSolaris 
SWAG for you to have on hand.

    % Your badges will be waiting at the registration/badging area.

I've cc'd Rebecca Hansen on this email...so she can provide contact 
information and any other information.

Thanks guys for participating!
Cheers!
LKR



Fintan Ryan wrote:

> hi,
>
>>
>> EuroApacheCon--June 26 - 30  Dublin
>> We have 2 passes (Exhibits and sessions) for any of the folks in the 
>> Dublin OpenSolaris usergroup. I've pinged Tim F. on this.
>> Let me know, and we'll get those passes locked in!
>>
>
> Tims on holidays this week, but I'll say yes for the group ;).
>
> - Fintan


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From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 22 21:28:08 2006
From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:28:08 -0500
Subject: [osol-mktg] Need Contributor Award winners addresses
Message-ID: <449B6DD8.2070704@sun.com>

I have not received address, phone and shirt size from the following 
winners. Please send them directly to me so that I can get your Award 
out to you. If you know any of these folks personally, could you give 
them a nudge for me.
Thanks,
Sara

Matt Ahrens
Erast Benson
Jeff Bonwick
Danek Duvall
Sam Falkner
Tim Foster
Brandan Gregg
Rainer Heilke
Glenn Herteg
Jurgen Keil
Rich Lowe
Masayuki Murayama
Sumitha Prashanth
Greg Shaw
Lisa Week


From Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM  Mon Jun 26 09:47:05 2006
From: Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM (Fintan Ryan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:47:05 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] IE-OSUG @ ApacheCon Europe
Message-ID: <44A00F89.2000605@sun.com>

Hi,

ApacheCon Europe kicked off today, and conveniently for us its on in 
Dublin this year. Sean [1], Nicky [2], possibly Tim [3], (a guest 
appearance on returning from his holidays) and I will be floating around 
at various times from Wednesday to Friday, wearing our Irish OpenSolaris 
Users Group caps (okay not literally in my case, baseball caps just 
don't suit) at the Sun booth.

If your attending feel free to call by for a general chat, or more 
detailed questions. We will have iso's of the various distros with us if 
you want to try the live cd's of Nextena, Belenix and SchilliX, or the 
latest release of Solaris Express.

- Fintan

[1] http://blogs.sun.com/smg
[2] http://blogs.sun.com/nickyv
[3] http://blogs.sun.com/timf

-- 
fintanr at sun.com   http://blogs.sun.com/fintanr	
@dub03              http://www.opensolaris.org


From Martin.Man at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 28 06:01:35 2006
From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:01:35 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] opensolaris.org usability study
Message-ID: <44A27DAF.1050404@Sun.COM>

Hi All,

We have had a very nice presentation here in prague about website 
usability testing from an engineer working at http://www.sirvaluse.de/.

These guys can setup an environment in which certain number of 
participants remotely performs defined tasks with your website (without 
touching that website), and they are basically being tracked how they 
did it. Whether they have been using search, what terms they typed, what 
links they clicked, how they have been traversing the site, etc.

The results are usually taken to optimize the site for better usability.

I have talked to that engineer whether they are able to provide a "free 
usability testing package" for an opensource project without funding 
given the fact they will be able to use it later as a reference. He 
replied that that might be the case and that they will see if they can 
do it.

My questions for you are: Are you insterested in such study? Should I 
try to push it futher? What should be the outcome of the study? Do you 
see problems with the site usability at the moment?

comments welcome,
Martin


From Martin.Man at Sun.COM  Wed Jun 28 06:04:16 2006
From: Martin.Man at Sun.COM (Martin Man)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:04:16 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Google Analytics for opensolaris.org
Message-ID: <44A27E50.1010101@Sun.COM>

Hi All,

Are we interested in gaining some usage statistics of opensolaris.org 
via Google Analytics? (google.com/analytics). It gives you the geo 
visits, new vs. returning users, what search terms are people using to 
end up at osol.org, where are they clicking the most, etc?

comments?
Martin


From sch at eng.sun.com  Wed Jun 28 08:09:14 2006
From: sch at eng.sun.com (Stephen Hahn)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:09:14 -0700
Subject: [osol-mktg] Google Analytics for opensolaris.org
In-Reply-To: <44A27E50.1010101@Sun.COM>
References: <44A27E50.1010101@Sun.COM>
Message-ID: <20060628150914.GE141079@eng.sun.com>

* Martin Man <Martin.Man at SUN.COM> [2006-06-28 06:05]:
> Are we interested in gaining some usage statistics of opensolaris.org 
> via Google Analytics? (google.com/analytics). It gives you the geo 
> visits, new vs. returning users, what search terms are people using to 
> end up at osol.org, where are they clicking the most, etc?

  The site is currently using Omniture for its web analytics, but I
  would be happy to consider alternatives.  There was one open source
  example I saw that would display statistics as an overlay, which was
  pretty slick...

  - Stephen

-- 
Stephen Hahn, PhD  Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems
stephen.hahn at sun.com  http://blogs.sun.com/sch/


From hmdijkstra at gmail.com  Thu Jun 29 01:50:36 2006
From: hmdijkstra at gmail.com (Harmen)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:50:36 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Most advanced OS on the planet
Message-ID: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

Hey Marketing Guys,

When you come up with such an ambitious claim, at least make sure that the OS at least supports accessing CD-RW's and DVD-RW's. Otherwise you're spilling bigger crap than the guys from Redmond in my opinion. At least they have an OS that recognizes and mounts both CD-RW *and* DVD-RW media, out of the box. How about that huh?
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 29 02:31:44 2006
From: Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM (Moinak Ghosh)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:01:44 +0530
Subject: [osol-mktg] Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <44A39E00.2060908@sun.com>

Harmen wrote:

>Hey Marketing Guys,
>
>When you come up with such an ambitious claim, at least make sure that the OS at least supports accessing CD-RW's and DVD-RW's. Otherwise you're spilling bigger crap than the guys from Redmond in my opinion. At least they have an OS that recognizes and mounts both CD-RW *and* DVD-RW media, out of the box. How about that huh?
>  
>
   Hey Harmen,  I am using CD/DVD+/-R/RW,Single layer/Dual layer  day in
   and day out on OpenSolaris.
   I have burned and used CDRW/DVDRW media hundreds of times while working
   with BeleniX LiveCD. BTW did you know OpenSolaris distributions can 
boot the
   complete OS from CD/DVD R/RW ?
   Check out SchilliX, BeleniX, Nexenta and marTux LiveCDs.

   You simply have bad hardware or bad media.

Regards,
Moinak.

> 
> 
>This message posted from opensolaris.org
>_______________________________________________
>opensolaris-mktg mailing list
>opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org
>  
>



From dclarke at blastwave.org  Thu Jun 29 04:30:44 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:30:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <1681.209.226.147.57.1151580644.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Hey Marketing Guys,
>
> When you come up with such an ambitious claim, at least make sure that the
> OS at least supports accessing CD-RW's and DVD-RW's.


Okay ... since you posed the situation with such elegance and grace I have
to ask, "so what are you doing and what happened?"

Have you seen cdrw or cdrecord ?




-- 
Dennis Clarke



From Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM  Thu Jun 29 05:08:18 2006
From: Fintan.Ryan at Sun.COM (Fintan Ryan)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:08:18 +0100
Subject: [osol-mktg] Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <44A3C2B2.9080302@sun.com>


Try /usr/sfw/bin/cdrw -l and see what it says.

- Fintan
-- 
fintanr at sun.com   http://blogs.sun.com/fintanr	
@dub03              http://www.opensolaris.org


From binarycrusader at gmail.com  Fri Jun 30 02:02:50 2006
From: binarycrusader at gmail.com (Shawn Walker)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:02:50 PDT
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <44A3C2B2.9080302@sun.com>
Message-ID: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>

> 
> Try /usr/sfw/bin/cdrw -l and see what it says.

Actually that's  

/usr/bin/cdrw -l

at least on my b42a box...

-Shawn
 
 
This message posted from opensolaris.org


From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de  Fri Jun 30 04:09:11 2006
From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:09:11 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>

Shawn Walker <binarycrusader at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually that's  
>
> /usr/bin/cdrw -l
>
> at least on my b42a box...

On that box you could also call /usr/bin/cdrecord -scanbus

J?rg

-- 
 EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js at cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily


From binarycrusader at gmail.com  Fri Jun 30 06:47:11 2006
From: binarycrusader at gmail.com (Shawn Walker)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:47:11 +1000
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>
References: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>
Message-ID: <b9c544f0606300647s4534a960mbe86ad53a4b0fe4d@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/30/06, Joerg Schilling <schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> Shawn Walker <binarycrusader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually that's
> >
> > /usr/bin/cdrw -l
> >
> > at least on my b42a box...
>
> On that box you could also call /usr/bin/cdrecord -scanbus
>
> J?rg

Wahoo! Schily's cdrecord integrated with Solaris? When did that
happen? That's great news!

It's so good to see your excellent software added to Solaris J?rg.
It's about time.

Cheers,
-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/


From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de  Fri Jun 30 07:15:05 2006
From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:15:05 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
References: <13799233.1151571066606.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
Message-ID: <44A531E9.nail4UG11AI7H@burner>

Harmen <hmdijkstra at gmail.com> wrote:

> When you come up with such an ambitious claim, at least make sure that the OS at least supports accessing CD-RW's and DVD-RW's. Otherwise you're spilling bigger crap than the guys from Redmond in my opinion. At least they have an OS that recognizes and mounts both CD-RW *and* DVD-RW media, out of the box. How about that huh?

What is your problem?
J?rg

-- 
 EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js at cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily


From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun 30 08:12:33 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:12:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>
References: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>
Message-ID: <3945.206.172.224.155.1151680353.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>


> Shawn Walker <binarycrusader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually that's
>>
>> /usr/bin/cdrw -l
>>
>> at least on my b42a box...
>
> On that box you could also call /usr/bin/cdrecord -scanbus
>
> J?rg
>

Actually cdrecord is now included in Solaris 10 Update 2 but one must be root
to use it.

Here is a comparison of the two tools that I use :

With cdrw I can burn almost anything.  Almost.  I do not need to be root
to use it and I don't need any special libraries ( libscg ) however, it is a
tad simple and can fail at times :

[ scan for devices ]

bash-3.1$ cdrw -l -v
Looking for CD devices...
    Node                   Connected Device                Device type
----------------------+--------------------------------+-----------------
 cdrom0               | SONY     DVD RW DRU-820A  1.0b | CD Reader/Writer
 cdrom1               | PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-107D 1.21 | CD Reader/Writer


[ examine the media in the SONY device ]
bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -M -d cdrom0

Device : SONY     DVD RW DRU-820A
Firmware : Rev. 1.0b ( Feb07 ,2006)

Track No. |Type    |Start address
----------+--------+-------------
 1        |Data    |0
Leadout   |Data    |317282

Last session start address: 0


[ blank that media ]
bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -d cdrom0 -b all
Initializing device...done.
Blanking the media (Can take several minutes)...done.


[ examine it again ]
bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -M -d cdrom0

Device : SONY     DVD RW DRU-820A
Firmware : Rev. 1.0b ( Feb07 ,2006)
Media is blank

[ try to burn CD1 from SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 ]
bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -d cdrom0 -i ./SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
Initializing device...done.
Size required (709224448 bytes) is greater than available space (681986048
bytes).

So that fails.  Possibly for good reason.

Now then, a look at cdrecord.  As the root user only <--- !!!

What version of cdrecord ?

# cdrecord --version
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling

[ scan for devices ]

  ####    ####     ##    #    #  #####   #    #   ####
 #       #    #   #  #   ##   #  #    #  #    #  #
  ####   #       #    #  # #  #  #####   #    #   ####
      #  #       ######  #  # #  #    #  #    #       #
 #    #  #    #  #    #  #   ##  #    #  #    #  #    #
  ####    ####   #    #  #    #  #####    ####    ####

# cdrecord -v -scanbus
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 57344
scsibus0:
        0,0,0     0) 'SONY    ' 'DVD RW DRU-820A ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
        0,1,0     1) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW  DVR-107D' '1.21' Removable CD-ROM
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) *
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *
scsibus1:
        1,0,0   100) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST39173W        ' '6244' Disk
        1,1,0   101) *
        1,2,0   102) *
        1,3,0   103) *
        1,4,0   104) *
        1,5,0   105) *
        1,6,0   106) *
        1,7,0   107) *
scsibus2:
        2,0,0   200) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST336704LSUN36G ' '032C' Disk
        2,1,0   201) *
        2,2,0   202) *
        2,3,0   203) *
        2,4,0   204) *
        2,5,0   205) *
        2,6,0   206) *
        2,7,0   207) *
scsibus3:
        3,0,0   300) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST336704LSUN36G ' '032C' Disk
        3,1,0   301) *
        3,2,0   302) *
        3,3,0   303) *
        3,4,0   304) *
        3,5,0   305) *
        3,6,0   306) *
        3,7,0   307) *
scsibus4:
        4,0,0   400) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST39102LW       ' '8320' Disk
        4,1,0   401) *
        4,2,0   402) *
        4,3,0   403) *
        4,4,0   404) *
        4,5,0   405) *
        4,6,0   406) *
        4,7,0   407) *
scsibus5:
        5,0,0   500) *
        5,1,0   501) *
        5,2,0   502) *
        5,3,0   503) *
        5,4,0   504) *
        5,5,0   505) 'HP      ' 'C3010           ' '0BA4' Disk
        5,6,0   506) *
        5,7,0   507) *

  You can see that cdrecord seems to find everything on every bus but does
not see the tape drive for some reason.

# mt -f /dev/rmt/0lbn status
DLT4000 tape drive:
   sense key(0x6)= Unit Attention   residual= 0   retries= 0
   file no= 0   block no= 0
# ls -lap /dev/rmt/0lbn
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root          61 Jun 30 10:17 /dev/rmt/0lbn ->
../../devices/pci at 0,0/pci1011,24 at 11/pci1000,1000 at 4/st at 4,0:lbn
#

Not that we care about the tape drive, it just seems odd that cdrecord can
detect every SCSI bus and every disk on every SCSI bus but does not report
SCSI tape devices as being present.  Interesting.

Now then .. let's just inquire about that SONY device :

# cdrecord -v -dev=0,0,0 -inq
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 57344
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
Revision       : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
#

Let's take a closer look at the media in the SONY drive :

# cdrecord -v -dev=0,0,0 -atip
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 57344
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
Revision       : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: CD-RW
Profile: DVD+R/DL
Profile: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+RW
Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
Profile: DVD-RAM
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD-ROM
Profile: CD-RW (current)
Profile: CD-R
Profile: CD-ROM
Profile: Removable Disk
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1114112 = 1088 KB
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 1
  Reference speed: 0
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  Disk sub type: Ultra High speed Rewritable media (2)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11076 (97:34/24)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
  1T speed low: 16 1T speed high: 16
  2T speed low:  8 2T speed high: 24
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 1
  A1 values: 66 4A 99
  A2 values: 38 80 00
  A3 values: 04 C4 A0
Disk type:    Phase change
Manuf. index: 11
Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
#

Now LOOK at all that information !  There you see the cdrecord will drag
into every nook and corner and tell you everything you ever wanted to know
but were afraid to ask :-)

Here is what I see right away :

  The device details in mixed English :

    Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
    Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
    Revision       : '1.0b'

  What media is in this thing right now ?

    Current: CD-RW

  And a real big question, what can this SONY drive handle ?

    Profile: DVD+R/DL       <-- dual layer DVD
    Profile: DVD+R
    Profile: DVD+RW
    Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
    Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
    Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite
    Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
    Profile: DVD-RAM
    Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
    Profile: DVD-ROM
    Profile: CD-RW (current)
    Profile: CD-R
    Profile: CD-ROM
    Profile: Removable Disk

  What can we do with this drive using the current driver ?

    Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
    Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
    Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R
                     RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
    Drive buf size : 1114112 = 1088 KB
    Current Secsize: 2048

  That's a pile of information and it gets even better :

    ATIP info from disk:
      Indicated writing power: 1
      Reference speed: 0
      Is not unrestricted
      Is erasable
      Disk sub type: Ultra High speed Rewritable media (2)
      ATIP start of lead in:  -11076 (97:34/24)
      ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
      1T speed low: 16 1T speed high: 16
      2T speed low:  8 2T speed high: 24
      power mult factor: 4 5
      recommended erase/write power: 1
      A1 values: 66 4A 99
      A2 values: 38 80 00
      A3 values: 04 C4 A0
    Disk type:    Phase change
    Manuf. index: 11
    Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation

So essentially cdrecord scans the bus and tells me about every SCSI disk and
every ATAPI CDROM/DVD drive.  It also tells me more than I want to know
about the SONY unit, the driver, the options supported, the media size and
speed and the manufacturer.  Well done J?rg Schilling !!

Now let's try to burn that SUSE Linux disk with cdrecord :

# ls -lap /export/nfs/linux/suse
total 4712584
drwxr-xr-x   2 dclarke  csw          512 Jun 30 00:11 ./
drwxr-xr-x   3 dclarke  csw          512 Jun 29 23:24 ../
-rw-r-----   1 dclarke  csw      709224448 Jun 28 19:44
SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
-rw-r-----   1 dclarke  csw      699164672 Jun 28 21:39
SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD2.iso
-rw-r-----   1 dclarke  csw      435552256 Jun 28 22:50
SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD3.iso
-rw-r-----   1 dclarke  csw      567654400 Jun 29 00:10
SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD4.iso
-rw-r-----   1 dclarke  csw          303 Jun 28 22:56 md5sum.txt
#
#

# time -p cdrecord -v -dev=0,0,0 -sao \
> /export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 57344
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
Revision       : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: CD-RW
Profile: DVD+R/DL
Profile: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+RW
Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
Profile: DVD-RAM
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD-ROM
Profile: CD-RW (current)
Profile: CD-R
Profile: CD-ROM
Profile: Removable Disk
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1114112 = 1088 KB
FIFO size      : 33554432 = 32768 KB
Track 01: data   676 MB
Total size:      776 MB (76:57.34) = 346301 sectors
Lout start:      777 MB (76:59/26) = 346301 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 1
  Reference speed: 0
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  Disk sub type: Ultra High speed Rewritable media (2)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11076 (97:34/24)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
  1T speed low: 16 1T speed high: 16
  2T speed low:  8 2T speed high: 24
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 1
  A1 values: 66 4A 99
  A2 values: 38 80 00
  A3 values: 04 C4 A0
Disk type:    Phase change
Manuf. index: 11
Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 13548
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 24 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write    0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is ON.
Turning BURN-Free off
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:  144 of  676 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  96%]  14.5x.
Track 01:  318 of  676 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  96%]  18.5x.
Track 01:  391 of  676 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  96%]  20.0x.
Track 01:  587 of  676 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  96%]  23.3x.
Track 01:  650 of  676 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  96%]  24.2x.
Track 01:  676 of  676 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  96%]  24.1x.
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 709224448/709224448 (346301 sectors).
Writing  time:  306.983s
Average write speed  15.6x.
Min drive buffer fill was 92%
Fixating...
Fixating time:    7.438s
cdrecord: fifo had 12368 puts and 12368 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 8478 times full, min fill was 99%.

real 327.48
user 0.60
sys 18.47
#

Well golly gee.  Looks like cdrecord just moves along at high speed and
has no problems with that ISO image.

How do I know that its really any good though ?

There is a tool called readcd that does a nice job of reading the ISO image
from the drive and dumps it into a file for us.

Thus we can verify the burn was absolutely accurate :

# which readcd
/root/schily/bin/readcd
# readcd -v -dev=0,0,0 meshpoints=20 \
> f=/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Read  speed:  7056 kB/s (CD  40x, DVD  5x).
Write speed:  4234 kB/s (CD  24x, DVD  3x).
Capacity: 346301 Blocks = 692602 kBytes = 676 MBytes = 709 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (0,0,0) disk to file
'/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify'
end:    346301
addr:    17332 cnt: 28   17332  2170.34
addr:    34636 cnt: 28   34636  3057.69
addr:    51968 cnt: 28   51968  3297.04
addr:    69272 cnt: 28   69272  3520.27
addr:    86576 cnt: 28   86576  3717.85
addr:   103908 cnt: 28  103908  3928.28
addr:   121212 cnt: 28  121212  4114.07
addr:   138544 cnt: 28  138544  4297.85
addr:   155848 cnt: 28  155848  4474.57
addr:   173152 cnt: 28  173152  4637.95
addr:   190484 cnt: 28  190484  4798.69
addr:   207788 cnt: 28  207788  4939.18
addr:   225120 cnt: 28  225120  5105.86
addr:   242424 cnt: 28  242424  5251.72
addr:   259728 cnt: 28  259728  5394.82
addr:   277060 cnt: 28  277060  5533.27
addr:   294364 cnt: 28  294364  5670.17
addr:   311696 cnt: 28  311696  5801.89
addr:   329000 cnt: 28  329000  5932.14
addr:   346301 cnt: 25
Time total: 165.228sec
Read 692602.00 kB at 4191.8 kB/sec.
#

So what ?  So we managed to read back a big pile of data.
Do we really have an accurate burn ?

# grep CD1 /export/nfs/linux/suse/md5sum.txt
SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso           0120df7572ae6006d58ff81d52f93e2f
# /opt/csw/bin/gmd5sum /export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
0120df7572ae6006d58ff81d52f93e2f 
/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
# /opt/csw/bin/gmd5sum /export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify
0120df7572ae6006d58ff81d52f93e2f 
/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify
#

The answer is a resounding yes.

So what is the deal with cdrw ?

Everything that I have done is with snv_38 on a dual Pentium 400MHz that
I have been using for years.  Its a solid machine.

# uname -a
SunOS titan 5.11 snv_38 i86pc i386 i86pc

I took a look at cdrw for the first time in years and was happily
surprised to see that I seem to be able to write and blank all of
the following :

  (1) DVD-RW  80mm  [ 2.8 GB dual sided for SONY HandyCam ]
  (2) DVD-RW 120mm
  (3) DVD-RW  80mm 1.4GB single sided Verbatim
  (4) DVD-R   80mm
  (5) DVD-R  120mm

The concept of "blanking" means nothing with the following but they write
just fine :

  (5) DVD+R  120mm
  (6) DVD+RW 120mm

I do not know what I can do with this yet :

  (6) DVD+R DL this is the 8.5GB media

The issue here is that sometimes, for rare circumstances I am sure, cdrw
will fail to burn or fail to create an accurate burn while cdrecord just
works.

I can not report anything positive about DVD+R/DL yet .

Dennis



From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de  Fri Jun 30 08:56:50 2006
From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:56:50 +0200
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Most advanced OS on the planet
In-Reply-To: <3945.206.172.224.155.1151680353.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
References: <20024130.1151658200336.JavaMail.suncom@oss1>
	<44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>
	<3945.206.172.224.155.1151680353.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>
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"Dennis Clarke" <dclarke at blastwave.org> wrote:

> Actually cdrecord is now included in Solaris 10 Update 2 but one must be root
> to use it.

Then Solaris 10 U2 has a bug :-(

While cdrecord is able to run completely rootless, 
cdrw needs to be instaled suid root.

I did not yet fetch U2, but the plan was to do it similar to
how it is described in the cdrecord documentation:

-	add a cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav entry to /etc/security/*
	and granting extra fine grained privs

-	allow any user to use the tools

-	make cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav shell scripts that
	call:
		pfexec real-{cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav} "$@"

BTW: because the license change was really hard, I missed the
deadline by one week in order to integrate DVD writing into S10 U2
but in case that the privileges framework has been done correctly,
you should be easily able to replace the binary by a more recent one.

> Here is a comparison of the two tools that I use :
>
> With cdrw I can burn almost anything.  Almost.  I do not need to be root

Not correct: cdrw is very limited related to drive support and extremely limited
regarding CD write methods/formats.

cdrw needs to be installed suid root, cdrecord runs completely rootless.

> to use it and I don't need any special libraries ( libscg ) however, it is a
> tad simple and can fail at times :

???

Of course, cdrw needs the volmgt libraries as cdrecord does.


> [ try to burn CD1 from SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 ]
> bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -d cdrom0 -i ./SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
> Initializing device...done.
> Size required (709224448 bytes) is greater than available space (681986048
> bytes).
>
> So that fails.  Possibly for good reason.

I would guess this fails because of the limiations in cdrw that are not
present with cdrecord.

Most likely, cdrw is unable to retrieve media information and makes
only a guess.

> Now then, a look at cdrecord.  As the root user only <--- !!!

Wrong!

> What version of cdrecord ?
>
> # cdrecord --version
> Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
> 1995-2006 J?rg Schilling

Outdated, this does not include several workarounds for newer DVD writers.


>   You can see that cdrecord seems to find everything on every bus but does
> not see the tape drive for some reason.

If you were using /dev/scg, you would see them.
Eventually, I will add support for tape drives using USCSI.


> Here is what I see right away :
>
>   The device details in mixed English :
>
>     Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
>     Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
>     Revision       : '1.0b'

This is wriong by intention (since August 1986), it helps 
a lot with google ;-)

> Thus we can verify the burn was absolutely accurate :
>
> # which readcd
> /root/schily/bin/readcd
> # readcd -v -dev=0,0,0 meshpoints=20 \
> > f=/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify


With a CD, you could also use '-c2scan'


J?rg

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From dclarke at blastwave.org  Fri Jun 30 10:36:21 2006
From: dclarke at blastwave.org (Dennis Clarke)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:36:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [osol-mktg] Re:  Most advanced OS on the planet
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	<44A50657.nail4JK31Y9A5@burner>   
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	<44A549C2.nail4WC12MU51@burner>
Message-ID: <61174.70.50.140.52.1151688981.squirrel@mail.blastwave.org>

> "Dennis Clarke" <dclarke at blastwave.org> wrote:
>
>> Actually cdrecord is now included in Solaris 10 Update 2 but one must be
root to use it.
>
> Then Solaris 10 U2 has a bug :-(
>

Well .. maybe I had better test that.

> While cdrecord is able to run completely rootless,
> cdrw needs to be instaled suid root.

$ which cdrw
/bin/cdrw
$ ls -lap /bin/cdrw
-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     bin        69316 Apr 14 20:14 /bin/cdrw

well look at that.  It is too.

> I did not yet fetch U2, but the plan was to do it similar to
> how it is described in the cdrecord documentation:
>
> -	add a cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav entry to /etc/security/*
> 	and granting extra fine grained privs
>
> -	allow any user to use the tools
>
> -	make cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav shell scripts that
> 	call:
> 		pfexec real-{cdrecord/readcd/cdda2wav} "$@"
>
> BTW: because the license change was really hard, I missed the
> deadline by one week in order to integrate DVD writing into S10 U2

thats a significant feature we all need.

> but in case that the privileges framework has been done correctly, you
should be easily able to replace the binary by a more recent one.

I smake my own anyways :-)

>> Here is a comparison of the two tools that I use :
>> With cdrw I can burn almost anything.  Almost.  I do not need to be root
>
> Not correct: cdrw is very limited related to drive support and extremely
limited regarding CD write methods/formats.

Well I only use tier one devices and cdrw supports SONY and Pioneer well
enough.  However, it seem to have no clue about DVD+R/DL and clearly
cdrecord does.  Although I have never actually seen it work.  Hopefully we
can work on that.

> cdrw needs to be installed suid root, cdrecord runs completely rootless.

really ?

I will have to test that too.

>> to use it and I don't need any special libraries ( libscg ) however,  it
is a tad simple and can fail at times :
>
> ???
>
> Of course, cdrw needs the volmgt libraries as cdrecord does.

I never have used volmgt at the same time as cdrecord.  Then again, I always
burn as root and I target the devices in the usual manner with dev=x,y,z and
this has worked very very well.

>> [ try to burn CD1 from SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 ]
>> bash-3.1$ cdrw -v -d cdrom0 -i ./SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.iso
>> Initializing device...done.
>> Size required (709224448 bytes) is greater than available space
(681986048
>> bytes).
>> So that fails.  Possibly for good reason.
>
> I would guess this fails because of the limiations in cdrw that are not
present with cdrecord.

  That's a truism at this point.

  Suffice it to say .. it fails.

  I don't know why and this is not some fly-by-night cheap drive I have
 here.  This is a brand new SONY dual layer DVD burner complete with a whack
of software for Windows XP that I tossed over my shoulder as I  opened up
the box.  :-)

> Most likely, cdrw is unable to retrieve media information and makes only a
guess.

 Could be.  Unless I were to truss the process or single step through a pile
of stuff I will never know.  To be honest, with cdrecord working for me I
really look at cdrw as just "broken" or at least slightly off kilter.

>> Now then, a look at cdrecord.  As the root user only <--- !!!
>
> Wrong!

  If you say so !

  I'll test that anyway okay ?   ;-)

>> What version of cdrecord ?
>> # cdrecord --version
>> Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a09 (i386-pc-solaris2.11) Copyright (C)
1995-2006 J?rg Schilling
>
> Outdated, this does not include several workarounds for newer DVD writers.

Holy hell J?rg !  How is that outdated?  You just released it a few weeks
ago or maybe one month.  This is the version that you and I were talking
about and you asked me to modify the code to support the SONY drive. 
Remember that?

What release are you at now and ... where's the source?

I'll smake it right away and then you and I can perhaps stay in touch and
get the dual layer feature working okay ?  Please ?

>>   You can see that cdrecord seems to find everything on every bus but
does
>> not see the tape drive for some reason.
>
> If you were using /dev/scg, you would see them.
> Eventually, I will add support for tape drives using USCSI.

Well, unless this is a feature that will allow me to burn a bootable ISO
image to a DLT tape and then boot from tape ( like BSD ) then why bother ?

Its not a feature thats worth the effort.

>> Here is what I see right away :
>>   The device details in mixed English :
>>     Vendor_info    : 'SONY    '
>>     Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-820A '
>>     Revision       : '1.0b'
>
> This is wriong by intention (since August 1986), it helps
> a lot with google ;-)

 how very crafty of you

>> Thus we can verify the burn was absolutely accurate :
>> # which readcd
>> /root/schily/bin/readcd
>> # readcd -v -dev=0,0,0 meshpoints=20 \
>> > f=/export/nfs/linux/suse/SLES-10-CD-x86_64-RC3-CD1.verify
>
>
> With a CD, you could also use '-c2scan'

I guess I am just familiar with the DVD process that I use in which I often
burn and then readcd with a md5 sig check step in there.

Now then .. where is this new cdrecord source and will it support dual layer
DVD media on my SONY ?

Dennis

ps: send your mailing address to Sara Dornsife, she is looking for you and
its a Friday before a long weekend.  If you are not fast I will give her
your address in Kelona, British Columbia.