From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 10:11:01 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:11:01 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bill Rushmore's Article In-Reply-To: <44039F8D.5030200@sun.com> References: <44039F8D.5030200@sun.com> Message-ID: <4405E3B5.9010609@sun.com> Great piece! One question--there's some TM issues (rather light but important nonetheless) Does there need to be a process in place (maybe on the content community) for Proofreading/TM checks? (just basic quality really) Do we care? LKR Jim Grisanzio wrote: > I posted Bill's article "Getting Started with OpenSolaris using > VMWare" on the articles page: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/articles/ > > Thanks for the article, Bill, and thanks to Ignacio Marambio Cat?n, > Dennis Clarke, Tim Foster, and Felipe Salum for contributing to the > piece. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 11:02:40 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:02:40 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion Message-ID: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> We have occasional opportunities to offer promotional versions of either OpenSolaris builds or an OpenSolaris-based distributions for developer publications and conferences. Having a "suitcase" of DVDs of OpenSolaris based distributions is a fun thing for conferences, birthday gifts, anniversaries...(err...okay, conferences...) This is also a great way to attract new developers to opensolaris.org. Just this week, Linux Format magazine has asked to "bundle" DVDs of either an OpenSolaris build or an OpenSolaris Distribution for a promotion with their upcoming magazine. OpenSolaris is featured in next month's edition--so They were just about to "download" the most recent build from our site and run with that, but I think the better approach is to showcase one of our Bootable, OpenSolaris-based distributions. So, this is the official marketing project to make that happen for Linux Format magazine, and for distribution at upcoming conferences. The following folks are working together to make this happen: Dennis Clarke: Will assist in "technical discussion" with contact from Linux Format magazine regarding location of ISOs and content. Also drafting How To Guide for Step by Step installation, etc. (Will connect this article into the "Content community" once drafted.) Moinak G: Will assist in getting Belenix 0.4.1 ISO set, and posted to appropriate location (hopefully blastwave--probably makes sense since Dennis is chatting w/Linux Format and helping with How To Guide) Sara D: DVD Artwork and licensing representation (and branding ) Bonnie Corwin: Counsultation on making sure we get the right licensing information included , and how / where it's presented. LKR: Coordinating with PR team --Additional information/background for Linux Format magazine; blog Sift, OpenSolaris Index info, and introduction for further information. Cheers! LKR From Tim.Foster at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 11:07:11 2006 From: Tim.Foster at Sun.COM (Tim Foster) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:07:11 +0000 Subject: [osol-mktg] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> Message-ID: <1141240031.3303.121.camel@haiiro> On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 14:02 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > Just this week, Linux Format magazine has asked to "bundle" DVDs of > either an OpenSolaris build or an OpenSolaris Distribution for a > promotion with their upcoming magazine. Cool - that's good news : let us know if there's anything we can do to help! cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operations http://blogs.sun.com/timf From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 11:25:06 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:25:06 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bill Rushmore's Article In-Reply-To: <4405E3B5.9010609@sun.com> References: <44039F8D.5030200@sun.com> <4405E3B5.9010609@sun.com> Message-ID: <4405F512.6000805@sun.com> Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Great piece! > One question--there's some TM issues (rather light but important > nonetheless) > > Does there need to be a process in place (maybe on the content > community) for Proofreading/TM checks? (just basic quality really) We'd certainly welcome any TM guidelines you could offer for writers to refer to. Jim From stevel at sun.com Wed Mar 1 11:34:00 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:34:00 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> Message-ID: <4405F728.4090602@sun.com> Bill Rushmore wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 14:02 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >>Just this week, Linux Format magazine has asked to "bundle" DVDs of >>either an OpenSolaris build or an OpenSolaris Distribution for a >>promotion with their upcoming magazine. > > > I know I have brought this up before, but how about a working version of > OpenSolaris as a VMware image that will work on the free player? I know > it may not be feasible because of legal issues but I wanted to ask anyway. > > Bill > rushmores.net It wouldn't be possible with SXCR because of redistribution issues. I'm not sure about other distros like Nexenta, Schilix or Belenix though. I can't see why that wouldn't be okay. cheers, steve -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From bill at rushmores.net Wed Mar 1 11:16:41 2006 From: bill at rushmores.net (Bill Rushmore) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:16:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 14:02 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > Just this week, Linux Format magazine has asked to "bundle" DVDs of > either an OpenSolaris build or an OpenSolaris Distribution for a > promotion with their upcoming magazine. I know I have brought this up before, but how about a working version of OpenSolaris as a VMware image that will work on the free player? I know it may not be feasible because of legal issues but I wanted to ask anyway. Bill rushmores.net From Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 11:38:27 2006 From: Eric.Boutilier at Sun.COM (Eric Boutilier) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:38:27 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> Message-ID: <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I realize there are space constraints, but... Eric From Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 12:17:20 2006 From: Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:47:20 +0530 Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion] Message-ID: <44060150.90904@Sun.COM> Hi Laura, Forwarding another email. This is another idea that can allow distributing all the three LiveCD OpenSolaris distros on one multiboot DVD. Regards, Moinak. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Moinak Ghosh Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:44:32 +0530 Size: 1441 URL: From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 12:12:13 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:12:13 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bill Rushmore's Article In-Reply-To: <4405F512.6000805@sun.com> References: <44039F8D.5030200@sun.com> <4405E3B5.9010609@sun.com> <4405F512.6000805@sun.com> Message-ID: <4406001D.8060508@sun.com> Okay, so process would be to post TM guidelines document to the content project...and then authors are responsible for their own quality of copy. Do we also offer a read of the article to ensure there are no blatant TM blunders? Does that make sense? LKR Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> >> Great piece! >> One question--there's some TM issues (rather light but important >> nonetheless) >> >> Does there need to be a process in place (maybe on the content >> community) for Proofreading/TM checks? (just basic quality really) > > > > We'd certainly welcome any TM guidelines you could offer for writers > to refer to. > > Jim > > > From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 12:23:52 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:23:52 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion] In-Reply-To: <44060150.90904@Sun.COM> References: <44060150.90904@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <440602D8.3080607@sun.com> Great Idea. Chhando: which would you prefer: the multi distro on one multiboot DVD? That's what I would like, I think... Dennis: Any comments? LKR Moinak Ghosh wrote: > Hi Laura, > > Forwarding another email. This is another idea that can allow > distributing all the > three LiveCD OpenSolaris distros on one multiboot DVD. > > Regards, > Moinak. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine > promotion > From: > Moinak Ghosh > Date: > Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:44:32 +0530 > To: > Eric Boutilier > > > Eric Boutilier wrote: > >> My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be >> impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this >> regard. I realize there are space constraints, but... > > > True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community > is to have a > Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all > three are single > CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the > remaining for > other stuff. > > I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot > DVD and can > help with creating this. > > Regards, > Moinak. > >> >> Eric >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is another idea that can allow >> distributing all the >> three LiveCD OpenSolaris distros on one multiboot DVD. >> >> Regards, >> Moinak. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine >> promotion >> From: >> Moinak Ghosh >> Date: >> Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:44:32 +0530 >> To: >> Eric Boutilier >> >> >> Eric Boutilier wrote: >> >>> My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be >>> impartial and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this >>> regard. I realize there are space constraints, but... >> >> >> True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community >> is to have a >> Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since >> all three are single >> CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the >> remaining for >> other stuff. >> >> I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot >> DVD and can >> help with creating this. >> >> Regards, >> Moinak. >> >>> >>> Eric >>> _______________________________________________ >>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org >> >> >> > -- * Chhandomay Mandal * Marketing Manager, Product Reviews *Sun Microsystems, Inc.* 1617 Southwood Drive, Mailstop: UNSH01-101 Nashua, NH 03063 Phone: (781) 442-2315 Fax: (781) 442-5487 Email: chhandomay.mandal at sun.com Blog: Reviews Interactive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nils.nieuwejaar at sun.com Wed Mar 1 11:42:56 2006 From: nils.nieuwejaar at sun.com (Nils Nieuwejaar) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:42:56 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4405F728.4090602@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F728.4090602@sun.com> Message-ID: <20060301194256.GA117032@east.sun.com> On Wed 03/01/06 at 11:34 AM, stevel at Sun.COM wrote: > Bill Rushmore wrote: > >On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 14:02 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Just this week, Linux Format magazine has asked to "bundle" DVDs of > >>either an OpenSolaris build or an OpenSolaris Distribution for a > >>promotion with their upcoming magazine. > > > > > >I know I have brought this up before, but how about a working version of > >OpenSolaris as a VMware image that will work on the free player? I know > >it may not be feasible because of legal issues but I wanted to ask anyway. > > > >Bill > >rushmores.net > > It wouldn't be possible with SXCR because of redistribution issues. I'm > not sure about other distros like Nexenta, Schilix or Belenix though. I > can't see why that wouldn't be okay. If it was made available on the SDLC behind the same click-through license as SXCR, that should address the redistribution issues. Nils From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Wed Mar 1 16:53:25 2006 From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:53:25 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4405F728.4090602@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F728.4090602@sun.com> Message-ID: <44064205.nailD0Y1195UA@burner> Stephen Lau wrote: > It wouldn't be possible with SXCR because of redistribution issues. I'm > not sure about other distros like Nexenta, Schilix or Belenix though. I > can't see why that wouldn't be okay. SchilliX is freely redistributable and has no usage limitations. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 16:54:51 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:54:51 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> +1 Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to find out about space on DVD, constraints, etc. Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install notes from Dennis Clarke... LKR Erast Benson wrote: >On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > > >>Eric Boutilier wrote: >> >> >>>My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial >>>and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I >>>realize there are space constraints, but... >>> >>> >> True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community >>is to have a >> Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all >>three are single >> CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the >>remaining for >> other stuff. >> >> I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot DVD >>and can >> help with creating this. >> >> > >I like the idea and agreed that all "Baby" OpenSolaris distros needs >this sort of promotion among Linux users. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:04:46 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:04:46 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > +1 > > Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to find out > about space on DVD, constraints, etc. > Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install notes > from Dennis Clarke... > I build and burn DVD's all the time All three distro's could be packed on one DVD easily and I could then put in 1400 software packages from Blastwave for Solaris 8 through 10 plus 10.1 and 11. with room to spare Dennis From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Wed Mar 1 17:11:37 2006 From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:11:37 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> Erast Benson wrote: > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. SchilliX currently is ~750 MB. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:17:18 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:17:18 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Erast Benson wrote: > > > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > > SchilliX currently is ~750 MB. new and improved and with X !! Dennis From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:18:52 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:18:52 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Erast Benson wrote: > > > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > > SchilliX currently is ~750 MB. > Where is the latest ? http://www.schillix.org/downloads.html ? http://www.genunix.org/distributions/schillix/ftp/ ? From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:34:35 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:34:35 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > +1 > > Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to find out > about space on DVD, constraints, etc. > Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install notes > from Dennis Clarke... > I think I'd need to really trim back a lot to get anything software wise from Blastwave onto one DVD only : # du -skd unstable/i386 stable/i386 2963680 unstable/i386 2272632 stable/i386 # du -skd unstable/sparc stable/sparc 3209008 unstable/sparc 2506952 stable/sparc So maybe just the unstable/i386 tree then as well as three distros plus the sources : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/file_list.html Thats about 700MB The BFU images should be included for the latest build. Dennis From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Wed Mar 1 17:38:37 2006 From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:38:37 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> Message-ID: <44064C9D.nailD49233RBK@burner> "Dennis Clarke" wrote: > On 3/1/06, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Erast Benson wrote: > > > > > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > > > > SchilliX currently is ~750 MB. > > > > Where is the latest ? http://www.schillix.org/downloads.html ? > > http://www.genunix.org/distributions/schillix/ftp/ ? SchilliX-0.5 final will be out tomorrow or friday. Today I build an intermediate version for CeBIT replication. J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 17:44:00 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:44:00 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <44064C9D.nailD49233RBK@burner> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44064649.nailD0Y418W60@burner> <44064C9D.nailD49233RBK@burner> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Dennis Clarke" wrote: > > > On 3/1/06, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Erast Benson wrote: > > > > > > > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > > > > > > SchilliX currently is ~750 MB. > > > > > > > Where is the latest ? http://www.schillix.org/downloads.html ? > > > > http://www.genunix.org/distributions/schillix/ftp/ ? > > SchilliX-0.5 final will be out tomorrow or friday. > > Today I build an intermediate version for CeBIT replication. > OKay .. this is the version that I will work with then. I guess I have to wait until Friday. Dennis From Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 19:05:34 2006 From: Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:35:34 +0530 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <440660FE.9090802@Sun.COM> Erast Benson wrote: > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > NexentaOS uses ZFS which is a good thing to show off actual ZFS usage though that might mean not being able to boot on low memory systems. SchilliX is using 750MB which can be reduced by adding in compression in addition to the boot time benefits. If the Blastwave packages are not already compressed, they can be put in one compressed image as well. This should allow all the stuff + documentation to fit in one DVD. Regards, Moinak. > Thanks. > > On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 19:54 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to >> find out about space on DVD, constraints, etc. >> Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install >> notes from Dennis Clarke... >> >> LKR >> >> >> Erast Benson wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Eric Boutilier wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial >>>>> and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I >>>>> realize there are space constraints, but... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community >>>> is to have a >>>> Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all >>>> three are single >>>> CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the >>>> remaining for >>>> other stuff. >>>> >>>> I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot DVD >>>> and can >>>> help with creating this. >>>> >>>> >>> I like the idea and agreed that all "Baby" OpenSolaris distros needs >>> this sort of promotion among Linux users. >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org >> From blastwave at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 19:02:55 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:02:55 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <440660FE.9090802@Sun.COM> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <440660FE.9090802@Sun.COM> Message-ID: On 3/1/06, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > Erast Benson wrote: > > NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. > > > NexentaOS uses ZFS which is a good thing to show off actual ZFS usage > though > that might mean not being able to boot on low memory systems. > > SchilliX is using 750MB which can be reduced by adding in compression > in addition > to the boot time benefits. > > If the Blastwave packages are not already compressed, they can be put > in one compressed > image as well. everything is compressed .. with gzip > > This should allow all the stuff + documentation to fit in one DVD. > it should fit .. we may need to do a mock up sooner than later Dennis From Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM Wed Mar 1 20:16:52 2006 From: Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:46:52 +0530 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <440660FE.9090802@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <440671B4.3040206@Sun.COM> Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 3/1/06, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > > [...] >> This should allow all the stuff + documentation to fit in one DVD. >> >> > > it should fit .. we may need to do a mock up sooner than later > It requires each distro to be put in it's own directory and modifying the startup scripts of each one to mount the appropriate directory/files. However the changes should not be too much. Regards, Moinak. > Dennis > From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Thu Mar 2 04:05:49 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:05:49 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Simon Phipps interview on LugRadio Message-ID: <4406DF9D.3070302@sun.com> All, CAB member and chief open source officer at Sun, Simon Phipps, is interviewed on LugRadio this week. You can hear the interview here: http://www.lugradio.org . The show contains strong language and no little puerile humour, but the segment containing Simon's interview does not, and is a good listen. regards Patrick From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 2 07:33:11 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:33:11 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <1141268560.4232.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> <1141268560.4232.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44071037.4080208@sun.com> :) Love this project! I'll check with Linux Format magazine to confirm deadline for ISOs and documentation. I expect posting ISOs by end of this week so they can do their production work beginning next week would be best. So yes, that's Dennis, locking the ISO quickly on Friday. LKR Erast Benson wrote: >btw, Laura, what is the deadline for this "brothers" DVD? >And thanks for doing this! > >On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 19:54 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > >>+1 >> >>Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to >>find out about space on DVD, constraints, etc. >>Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install >>notes from Dennis Clarke... >> >>LKR >> >> >>Erast Benson wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Eric Boutilier wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial >>>>>and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I >>>>>realize there are space constraints, but... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community >>>>is to have a >>>> Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all >>>>three are single >>>> CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the >>>>remaining for >>>> other stuff. >>>> >>>> I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot DVD >>>>and can >>>> help with creating this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I like the idea and agreed that all "Baby" OpenSolaris distros needs >>>this sort of promotion among Linux users. >>> >>> >>> >>> From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 2 07:43:45 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:43:45 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <15079560.1141283431956.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> References: <15079560.1141283431956.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Message-ID: <440712B1.2040907@sun.com> I totally agree--there are many good "messages" that come from producing a multiboot DVD--and maybe it's something we do periodically in addition to sep. Distros, or even as Glynn suggested tutorial and training modules. Physical media is a beautiful thing once in a while to complement the online community activity and distributions. LKR W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >A week ago, there was a two-part series of report entitled: "Please Give Solaris More Applauses" (in Chinese): > > http://taiwan.cnet.com/enterprise/features/0,2000062876,20103443,00.htm > > http://taiwan.cnet.com/enterprise/features/0,2000062876,20103443-2,00.htm > >in which the author, a professor at Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, touted the superior advantages of Solaris, both as an OS for servers as well as for desktops. In the introductory paragraphs, he voiced his displeasure that Solaris has not received the kind of attention it deserves. > >Personally, I don't see how OpenSolaris could receive its deserved attention (and respect) if no one outside the existing Solaris community can install it. > >This inadequacy IMNSHO has a lot to do with the relative lack of attention paid to hardware drivers in Sun's own official releases. I keep five PCs (desktops and notebooks) in my little personal lab. So far, without outside helps, I have not been able to make a functional Solaris system out of any of these machines (the problems mostly had to do with lack of NIC or video drivers). Ironically, I have NO problem running either NexentaOS or Belenix on ANY of these five machines. > >A multi-boot highly-compressed DVD containing among other things the three OpenSolaris LiveCDs and Blastwave packages should help answering this intriguing question as to why this superduper OS has not received the kind of attention it seserves in certain parts of the world. I would like to see this becoming an ongoing effort. >This message posted from opensolaris.org >_______________________________________________ >opensolaris-discuss mailing list >opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > From erast at gnusolaris.org Wed Mar 1 18:05:14 2006 From: erast at gnusolaris.org (Erast Benson) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:05:14 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> Message-ID: <1141265114.4252.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> NexentaOS LiveCD will take less than 700MB(extracted) of DVD space. Thanks. On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 19:54 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > +1 > > Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to > find out about space on DVD, constraints, etc. > Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install > notes from Dennis Clarke... > > LKR > > > Erast Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > > > > > Eric Boutilier wrote: > > > > > > > My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial > > > > and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I > > > > realize there are space constraints, but... > > > > > > > True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community > > > is to have a > > > Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all > > > three are single > > > CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the > > > remaining for > > > other stuff. > > > > > > I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot DVD > > > and can > > > help with creating this. > > > > > > > I like the idea and agreed that all "Baby" OpenSolaris distros needs > > this sort of promotion among Linux users. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org -- Erast From erast at gnusolaris.org Wed Mar 1 19:02:40 2006 From: erast at gnusolaris.org (Erast Benson) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:02:40 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> Message-ID: <1141268560.4232.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> btw, Laura, what is the deadline for this "brothers" DVD? And thanks for doing this! On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 19:54 -0500, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > +1 > > Question: Can we get an estimate of how big that would be? Need to > find out about space on DVD, constraints, etc. > Anyone got a SWAG? And would we have some room to include install > notes from Dennis Clarke... > > LKR > > > Erast Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:44 +0530, Moinak Ghosh wrote: > > > > > Eric Boutilier wrote: > > > > > > > My 2 cents: We (Sun and the opensolaris community) should be impartial > > > > and treat BeleniX, SchilliX, and Nexenta equally in this regard. I > > > > realize there are space constraints, but... > > > > > > > True. An idea that has been used effectively in the Linux community > > > is to have a > > > Multiboot DVD that contains all the 3 OpenSolaris distros. Since all > > > three are single > > > CD ones, all of them will fit into less than 2GB space leaving the > > > remaining for > > > other stuff. > > > > > > I already have mental map of the process to create this Multiboot DVD > > > and can > > > help with creating this. > > > > > > > I like the idea and agreed that all "Baby" OpenSolaris distros needs > > this sort of promotion among Linux users. > > > > > -- Erast From keith.wesolowski at sun.com Thu Mar 2 12:48:11 2006 From: keith.wesolowski at sun.com (Keith M Wesolowski) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:48:11 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: References: <4405EFD0.6060305@sun.com> <4405F833.70703@Sun.COM> <440600A8.6030609@Sun.COM> <1141262352.4251.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4406425B.9070504@sun.com> Message-ID: <20060302204811.GC12962@sun.com> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 08:34:35PM -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: > The BFU images should be included for the latest build. Uh, why? BFUing ON build N over Solaris Express build N is a no-op when it goes right and harmful otherwise; BFUing ON build N over some other distribution is even more suspect. BFU is for ON developers to test their changes without having to build packages (impossible without the closed tree at the moment), build a full WOS image (impossible for Solaris Express; other distributions make this work though) or do a time-consuming upgrade/reinstall. It's not a general-purpose end user installation utility, and that's been made painfully clear in the documentation. -- Keith M Wesolowski "Sir, we're surrounded!" Solaris Kernel Team "Excellent; we can attack in any direction!" From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 2 19:53:05 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:53:05 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Installing OpenSolaris was Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: References: <15079560.1141283431956.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <50ac4fad0603021854j276efa86jbeb765d9d429554a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4407BDA1.3020307@sun.com> Hey Andy! Would love to promote this a bit more. After this drill over the DVD ISO and fun...I'd like to circle back and get details for a quick Blog or article that can be posted on Big Admin and the sun.com and SDN sites... ;) LKR Dennis Clarke wrote: >On 3/2/06, Andy Tucker wrote: > > >>On 3/2/06, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> >>>On 3/2/06, Bill Rushmore wrote: >>> >>> >>>>There is also another way to get OpenSolaris to almost everyone's hands >>>>which I have been advocating. That is with VMware (Virtual PC works too, >>>>but not as good). Once people start using it, they'll like it and make >>>>sure their next machine will work with Solaris. >>>> >>>> >>>I am working right now on VMWare Workstation 5.5 on RHEL AS 64-bit. >>> >>>The system is an IBM e325 server with dual AMD248 Opterons and not >>>nearly enough RAM. Only 1Gb. >>> >>> >>[...] >> >> >>>What really irks me is that there is no support for 64-bit hardware >>>even though the host OS is 64-bit. >>> >>> >>There are additional processor requirements for 64-bit guests - see: >>http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/releasenotes_ws55.html#bb_64 >> >>For Opteron you need rev E or higher. >> >> >> > >Thank you Andy ! > >[root at mercury admin]# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model >model : 5 >model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 >model : 5 >model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 > >.. it looks pretty clear that I am stuck in 32-bit world on this IBM >e325 box. No way around that. Oh well .. I will try to plow forwards >regardless. > >There are some pictures at : > > http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/SchilliX/ > > >SchilliX boots fine and seems to do what it does. The network device >can be configured and I can ping the outside world. For a lark I will >now create a second interface on a virtual net VMnet1 and then get >BeleniX booted up with dual nics also. This should be fun. > >VMWare really rocks :-) > >Dennis > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >opensolaris-discuss mailing list >opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blastwave at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 10:35:42 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:35:42 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Installing OpenSolaris was Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion In-Reply-To: <4407BDA1.3020307@sun.com> References: <15079560.1141283431956.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> <50ac4fad0603021854j276efa86jbeb765d9d429554a@mail.gmail.com> <4407BDA1.3020307@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/2/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Hey Andy! > Would love to promote this a bit more. > After this drill over the DVD ISO and fun...I'd like to circle back and get This DVD is big already and its really basic : $ ls -lap total 26 drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 512 Mar 3 11:43 ./ drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 512 Mar 2 19:13 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 root other 512 Mar 3 11:44 distro/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root other 512 Feb 22 10:15 dvd/ drwxr-xr-x 5 root other 512 Mar 3 09:00 dvd-bob/ drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Feb 20 19:23 lost+found/ $ ls -lap distro total 4975008 drwxr-xr-x 2 root other 512 Mar 3 11:44 ./ drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 512 Mar 3 11:43 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root other 2544709632 Mar 3 11:54 dvd-bob-rev01.iso $ ls -lap dvd-bob/ total 20 drwxr-xr-x 5 root other 512 Mar 3 09:00 ./ drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 512 Mar 3 11:43 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 root other 512 Mar 3 09:18 BeleniX/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root other 512 Mar 3 11:24 Nexenta/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root other 512 Mar 3 09:00 SchilliX/ $ So we see 2.5GB for the DVD ISO thus far and I have not put in the article contents for installation instructions. If anyone wants to see my work and mistakes here it is : [ warning .. this is raw images and I am creating text now ] (1) SchilliX 0.5.1 http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/SchilliX/ I screwed up totally with this and need to redo everything. The README file that I needed is now on the DVD ISO and I need to go back and redo SchilliX from square zero. (2) BeleniX http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/BeleniX/ (3) Nexenta (3.1) Nexenta Live CD http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/Nexenta/live/ (3.2) Nexenta Install CD http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/Nexenta/install/ More things will appear as I continue to work. Like text for example :-) All work was done with VMWare WorkStation running on RHEL 4 AS 64-bit which locked up repeatedly during the process. I had to login and kill off vmware as well as reboot twice. I have no idea why. I suspect something is less than wonderful with my RHEL4 install. I'm a Solaris guy and I am not used to having a desktop lockup on me at 3AM for no reason other than some disk activity. Work continues ... Dennis Clarke From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Fri Mar 3 17:10:39 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 02:10:39 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated Community Metrics In-Reply-To: <43F5C9C2.8000103@sun.com> References: <437C8116.80905@sun.com> <43D0EEAA.5040800@sun.com> <43E33829.2030606@sun.com> <43F5C9C2.8000103@sun.com> Message-ID: <4408E90F.8090308@sun.com> All, the report is updated here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ I will be giving this report a much-needed overhaul in the coming weeks. Thanks to all who have given me feedback on this report, if there's any other thoughts out there, please let me know. thanks and regards Patrick From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Fri Mar 3 10:42:29 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:42:29 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [Fwd: Re: OpenSolaris User Group in Russia?] In-Reply-To: <44088C4A.1000006@Sun.COM> References: <43FA2B6A.20306@Sun.com> <43FA366A.70103@sun.com> <43FCDC7C.6090802@sun.com> <4403498A.6030502@Sun.com> <4404A029.5070603@sun.com> <4405FF29.1050100@sun.com> <440611BE.4040102@sun.com> <44061C60.5070705@Sun.com> <440836C8.2070103@sun.com> <44085BED.7000509@Sun.com> <44088C4A.1000006@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <44088E15.5020402@sun.com> Thanks Bonnie. Would love this input --it's in time for 2 other DVD distributions that are coming together in the community: LinuxFormat magazine--Featuring Bellinix and Schillix. Band of Brothers ISO--an ISO we want to make available to the community so it's easy to run together an OpenSolaris community DVD "on demand". Cheers, LKR Bonnie Corwin wrote: >Hi - > >I forwarded this to the Tonic team for extra input. It may be too late >for this particular DVD, but two questions/issues have been raised so >far that should be considered for the creation of future DVDs: > >- There is real concern about including two versions of Studio on the > DVD. OpenSolaris can only be built with Studio 10. If someone sees > both 10 and 11, they will be inclined to use 11 because it is newer. > Even if there is a README, our experience is that this will cause > confusion and problems. If the point of the DVD is to get people > using OpenSolaris, it should really only contain the compiler that > can be used to build it. > >- More than ON consolidation source is available as part of OpenSolaris. > The JDS and NWS consolidations are both available, as are pieces of > the DevPro consolidation. If not possible for this DVD, all future > DVDs should include all of OpenSolaris that is available when the > DVD is created. To see what is available at any given time, visit > the downloads page: > > http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads > >Thanks a lot. > >Bonnie > >Sergei Pikalev wrote On 03/03/06 08:08,: > > >>So, finally, (just to be sure I do everything right) >>the structure of DVD will be as follows: >> >>/OpenSolaris/ >> README.opensolaris >> on-changelog-20060228.html >> on-changelog-20060228.sparse.txt >> on-src-20060228.tar.bz2 >> MD5SUMS >> SPARC/ >> SUNWonbld-20060228.sparc.tar.bz2 >> on-closed-bins-20060228.sparc.tar.bz2 >> on-bfu-20060228.sparc.tar.bz2 >> opensolaris-build-extras-20050614.sparc.tar.bz2 >> x86/ >> SUNWonbld-20060228.i386.tar.bz2 >> on-closed-bins-20060228.i386.tar.bz2 >> on-bfu-20060228.i386.tar.bz2 >>SunStudio10/ >> README.txt (separate email) >> SPARC/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-sparc.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >> X86/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >> LICENSE_README/ >> Copyright_en.html >> Copyright_ja.html >> Copyright_zh.html >> SS10_OpenSolaris_Entitlement_SLA.pdf >> THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html >>/SunStudio11/ >> README.txt (separate email) >> SPARC/studio11-sol-sparc.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >> X86/studio11-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >> LINUX/studio11-lin-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >> LICENSE_README/ >> Copyright_en.html (separate email) >> Copyright_ja.html (separate email) >> Copyright_zh.html (separate email) >> SS10_OpenSolaris_Entitlement_SLA.pdf >> SunStudio11_SLA.pdf (separate email) >> THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html >> >>Kuldip Oberoi wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Sergei, >>> >>>We've received the "okay" from legal for you to incorporate Sun Studio >>>10 and Sun Studio 11, if you follow the guidelines below. >>> >>>As with any Sun software, the guidance legal gave us is that these CDs >>>should be distributed by Sun employees. In addition, these DVDs should >>>be burned by Sun employees (or our vendors), which means that we are not >>>providing the okay for non-Sun OpenSolaris User Group members to use the >>>DVD image to burn and distribute it themselves. >>> >>>In terms of the software: >>> >>>1. Sun Studio 10 >>> >>>You need to use the option #2, product packages, from the >>>OpenSolaris.org site. Option #1, install image, is not approved by >>>legal for DVD distribution. Here is the direct link to the SDLC page >>>with option #2: >>> >>> >>>javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=SS10-OSOL-SPX86L-G-F&TransactionId=try >>> >>> >>>Here is my thought on the directory structure: >>> >>>/SunStudio10/ >>> README.txt (separate email) >>> SPARC/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-sparc.tar.bz2 (unzipped and >>>untarred) >>> X86/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >>> LICENSE_README/ >>> Copyright_en.html (separate email) >>> Copyright_ja.html (separate email) >>> Copyright_zh.html (separate email) >>> SS10_OpenSolaris_Entitlement_SLA.pdf (separate email) >>> THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html (separate email) >>> >>>2. Sun Studio 11 >>> >>>You can get this software from SDLC at: >>> >>> developers.sun.com/sunstudio/download >>> >>>/SunStudio11/ >>> README.txt (separate email) >>> SPARC/studio11-sol-sparc.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >>> X86/studio11-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >>> LINUX/studio11-lin-x86.tar.bz2 (unzipped and untarred) >>> LICENSE_README/ >>> Copyright_en.html (separate email) >>> Copyright_ja.html (separate email) >>> Copyright_zh.html (separate email) >>> SS10_OpenSolaris_Entitlement_SLA.pdf[CHANGE] >>>SunStudio11_SLA.pdf (separate email) >>> THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html (separate email) >>> >>>As we previously discussed, your team will take care of testing to >>>validate the DVD image prior to production. >>> >>>Also, if you are putting artwork (e.g., DVD, DVD cover, etc.) and are >>>referencing Sun Studio, remember that the first occurance on the page >>>(DVD, DVD cover, etc.) needs to be trademarked: >>> >>> Sun[tm] Studio 10 >>> Sun[tm] Studio 11 >>> >>>I appreciate your patience in including Sun Studio and look forward to >>>receiving a few copies once the effort is all done. >>> >>> Kuldip Oberoi >>> Sun Microsystems >>> UMPK 18-220 >>> 18 Network Circle >>> Menlo Park, CA 94025 >>> 650-786-0149 >>> >>>Thanks again! >>> >>>/kso >>> >>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Thank you all. I'll wait your information. >>>> >>>>Kuldip Oberoi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Laura and Sergei, >>>>> >>>>>I pinged our lawyers again and said that we're planning to give the >>>>>okay by COB...one replied (Margaret Powers) and said that they are >>>>>actively working on it. (different trademarks on the same DVD) The >>>>>other one is looking at export control. (Winnie Luk) >>>>> >>>>>We are not expecting issues at the moment, so we are working towards >>>>>providing the necessary documents COB. >>>>> >>>>>/kso >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have not heard back any information on export control or trademark >>>>>>info yet! Kuldip: do you happen to know any "gotchas" that we need >>>>>>to beware of for binary software distro? >>>>>> >>>>>>I know we should provide the tmark and mousetype information to >>>>>>Sergei--but other than that, I am completely uninformed (and un >>>>>>supported in my requests for further information...) >>>>>> >>>>>>LKR >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Kuldip Oberoi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Sergei, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We should have the last of our legal questions answered today >>>>>>>(trademark, export control is left). I'm putting together the >>>>>>>documents that you need and will suggest a file structure as well. >>>>>>>Expect a follow up email later today and I will pass on the >>>>>>>guidance that legal provided us as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'm assuming that your team will do all the necessary testing to >>>>>>>validate the DVD? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>/kso >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PS. We will be using option #2 (product packages) from OpenSolaris >>>>>>>b/c of legal reasons...but I will include this in my follow up email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Kuldip. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>We should request CD printing in one or two days to be in time >>>>>>>>by the conference. Where can I take files like README.txt, >>>>>>>>Copiryght_*.html etc. ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sergi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Kuldip Oberoi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>For OpenSolaris development, folks need to use an updated version >>>>>>>>>of Sun Studio 10 (versus 11). This" version is linked to on the >>>>>>>>>OpenSolaris site: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/sun_studio_tools/ >>>>>>>>> I would specifically use Option #1 (Install Image) version, as >>>>>>>>>it has the product serial number built in: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=SS10-OSOL-SF-G-F&TransactionId=try >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>So, the DVD structure may look like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /SunStudio10/ >>>>>>>>> README.txt (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> SPARC/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-sparc.tar.bz2 (you can >>>>>>>>>download) >>>>>>>>> X86/sunstudio10-ii-20050912-sol-x86.tar.bz2 (you can >>>>>>>>>download) >>>>>>>>> LICENSE_README/ >>>>>>>>> Copyright_en.html (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> Copyright_ja.html (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> Copyright_zh.html (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> SS10_OpenSolaris_Entitlement_SLA.pdf (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html (I need to provide) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This is the first time (that I know about) that we are doing this >>>>>>>>>for OpenSolaris, so I need to first get legal signoff. I know >>>>>>>>>that you are short on time, so I will try to expedite it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>/kso >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>I've copied Bonnie Corwin from the opensolaris program team. >>>>>>>>>>Bonnie might know if there are any specific legal issues, and >>>>>>>>>>could point me in the right direction to help clarify. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Also, I've cc'd Kuldip O.--he is the studio 10 product manager. >>>>>>>>>>Kuldip can confirm if it's alright that his product be included >>>>>>>>>>on the DVD. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Thanks for all this. It's GREAT initaitive! >>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi All. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>CD/DVD printing in SPb will take at least one week. >>>>>>>>>>>So, could you please clarify legal issues for the list >>>>>>>>>>>I gave you. Or, probably, point me out the person I >>>>>>>>>>>should contact with this question. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Sergi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>-------- Original Message -------- >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: OpenSolaris User Group in Russia? >>>>>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:35:44 +0300 >>>>>>>>>>>From: Sergei Pikalev >>>>>>>>>>>To: Laura Ramsey >>>>>>>>>>>CC: Eric Boutilier , Patrick Finch >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>So, info about conference: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>March 10, 2006 >>>>>>>>>>>Saint-Petersburg, Russia >>>>>>>>>>>seminar "OpenSolaris in Russia" >>>>>>>>>>>provided by Sun Microsystems - St.-Petersburg >>>>>>>>>>>and Russian OpenSolaris Users Group >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It's first event of ruosug. Do you need more info? >>>>>>>>>>>Like list of speakers and their speeches topics? >>>>>>>>>>>Tomorrow I will able to give a link to ru.sun.com event >>>>>>>>>>>announcement, but it's in Russian only. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Also it would be nice to start ruosug page on opensolaris.org >>>>>>>>>>>with this event. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>One more issue. I have important question. We'd like to distribute >>>>>>>>>>>CDs or DVDs with OpenSolaris and related software, so I need to >>>>>>>>>>>clarify legal issues with it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Our idea is to make DVDs with: >>>>>>>>>>>1. Solaris Express - Community Edition >>>>>>>>>>>2. Bundle with source codes (last stable build) >>>>>>>>>>>3. SunStudio 11 >>>>>>>>>>>4. The ON-Specific Build Tools, named: >>>>>>>>>>> SUNWonbld-DATE.PLATFORM.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>5. opensolaris-build-extras-DATE.sparc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>6. The Closed Binaries?OS/Networking (ON) >>>>>>>>>>> Components, named: >>>>>>>>>>> on-closed-bins-DATE.PLATFORM.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>So, could all of these components be distributed for free? I know >>>>>>>>>>>the answer for SunStudio 11 and (probably) sources bundle. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>interesting in other components. Of cource, all of them could be >>>>>>>>>>>downloaded for free, but probably we have some limitations on >>>>>>>>>>>free DVDs distribution. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Sergi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>Send along the date, time, location and we'll post it up >>>>>>>>>>>>there! We'll add back in the speaker once it's confirmed... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>You bring up an excellent idea--I should have a calendar of >>>>>>>>>>>>all opensolaris user group events on the main WWOSUG webpage. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>;) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>as for a speaker--since time is too short for securing a visa >>>>>>>>>>>>for Russia, Patrick is attempting to connect with a couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>folks in the region. Will keep you posted and I'm hoping for >>>>>>>>>>>>the best! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Laura. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for your help. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, what information should I provide for you to add >>>>>>>>>>>>>info about our OpenSolaris Users Group seminar in >>>>>>>>>>>>>St-Petersburg (for example, page "OpenSolaris Events")? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for letting us know. This sounds like it will be great. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll ping around to see who might be travelling in Russia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>and could drop in to present. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Finally we have a place and date for event. It'll be March, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>10, 2006. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It will be in "Sovetskaya" hotel in St-Petersburg. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, do you have evangelists who can attend this event? Also, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could you help me with creating page like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/ruosug/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the update! What great activitiy! See in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>message for comments-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric: note: is the mail group up for ruosug? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Patrick: note: University opportunity below... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>At first, thanks for you help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For now we are working on open solaris conference setup in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>St-Petersburg. Due to some reasons (students session etc.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we was forced to move it on first decade of March. We still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>does not know the date, but I'll have this information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>inside >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3-5 days. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's great. I'll help promote this conference so we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see if any Sun execs/speakers might be available to attend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Current speeches we already have are: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1. My speech about OpenSolaris in Russia and about our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to setup OpenSolaris community in Russia. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2. Build Opensolaris with SunStudio11 (by Sun compiler's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buildmaster) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3. Benefits of CDDL license in comparing to GPL and BSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>licenses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (by our site lawyer) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4. Building of appliance-solution based on Solaris. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Crash dump"-files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis. Multipoint Tunneling. (by Jet Infosystems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>engineer) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For now we try to provide one more speech about most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>useful new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tools in Solaris (like DTrace and zones). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps a conversation about ZFS would be good too? This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is new functionality, and very compelling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The ZFS community out on opensolaris.org has really cool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>presentations and screencasts (demos) that might be useful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also we will have special guests from Motorola, two SPb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>universities who have classes about OSes (they use Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>code in their classes and we'd like to propose them to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OpenSolaris) and from SPb linux community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the connection to the Universities. I've copied >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Patrick Finch, our EDU marketing lead. He might have some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>useful materials/suggestions for the outreach to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>universities. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>For now I have two questions to you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First is about set of speeches. Can you help us to invite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>somebody of Sun Evangelists to attend this conference? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, once your date is set, I'll promote it to several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>folks I know who might be travelling in that timeframe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Second is about page: I know how to work with discussions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on opensolaris.org, but I'd like to create page for ruosug. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Could you help me with it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, I will set up the page now. Please confirm--your user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ID is sergei? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and what would you like to call the group, Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OpenSolaris User Group or is there a more specific city >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you'd like to affiliate with? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Best! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How are things going for your group? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Still no info from Eric... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He's back now! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey Eric! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Laura. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you know when Eric Boutilier will be back from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vacation? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You and any other registered member of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opensolaris.org that you designate will be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>add new members to the alias, and also you will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>able to edit the web page by yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll set up ru-osug as your group name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I'll add the 3 users and give rights to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>webpage edits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric Boutilier will set up the email alias for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you...and will connect with you re: how to add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people, manage the alias, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CHEERS! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergei Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Laura. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First of all, technical question. In case you'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*-osug for us, who will be able to add new members to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this alias? Also, who will be able to edit web page? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can we do it by ourselves? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now, about your questions. We'd like to try to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>start as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Russia-wide. Probably, later we'll be splited. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>depends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on other cities activity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, we think we'd like to have ru-osug at opensolaris.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Please add there three users: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sep at opensolaris.org (it's me, Sergei.Pikalev at sun.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nzero at opensolaris.org (Nickolay.Dalmatov at Sun.COM) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kizune at opensolaris.org (Alexander.Zuev at Sun.COM) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Let me be an holder of this alias (if it's holder's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>system). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Outstanding! Let me know what your opensolaris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>user ID is and I'll get your web page and email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alias all set up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What would you like to call your group? the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naming convention is: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*-osug at opensolaris.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what should the * be? (up to 3 characters please...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and do you want this to be Russia or more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>specifically a city that you hold your meetings in? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Serge E. Pikalev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Really I worked on this for about 4 monthes and have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>some progress. I'll give you complete informtaion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about my progress next week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sergi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>P.S. It's great that finally I have contact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>persons list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Cc: field :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laura Ramsey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dima and Sergei: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've lost track on the thread here...are we all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lined up for the Russia OpenSolaris group? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LKR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay Tatkar wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm Cc:ing the two (Dima and Sergei) who can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>actually make this work. I cant do this from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>here; my original question was about whether we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had a OSUG in Russia and that we should get one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>started and we'd like to help in such an org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because we see a lot of interest in our tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(and its expressed in terms of Linux, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>isnt bad, but I'd prefer Solaris). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim Grisanzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello, Vijay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meet Laura Ramsey and Eric Boutilier. They >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work with me on the User Group Community: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We can get you set up with a page on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>community and give you edit rights to post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>content. (See the other groups in the left nav >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bar). We can also set up a mail list for your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>group on opensolaris.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, to get started: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>* Send me, Eric, and Laura your log in name to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>opensolaris.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>* We'll make you an editor on the ug community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and open a page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russia is a pretty big place, so would you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>want to name the group >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on a city or other landmark? Or you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can pick another way, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See some of the names of the user groups for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>some ideas. Some use a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country names. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>* Sign up to ug-discuss at opensolaris.org: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>so you can communicate with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us and the other 19 group leaders. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>* Eric will set up a mail list for you based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on your ug name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>* This is all explained on the ug-community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>page, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sound good to start? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay Tatkar wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super. Thank you both, Stephen and Derek for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pointers. I have an engr manager in St. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Petersburg who has a strong interest in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting a UG started there; I've given him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your advice in this regard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Undoubtedly its better planned out, much more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Solaris involvement will be necessary, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not just in UG, but other UG-like activities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Solaris-developer-day like events focussing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on greater concentration of participants, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like universities, etc). Dima is writing up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>such a plan, and we'll undoubtedly have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>come back to you with things we just cant do! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From something as simple as a CD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>distribution (downloads are not particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reliable in Russia which largely has 56K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>modems) to whitepapers, demos, talks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>listening sessions, install-a-thons, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other things, we'll need to tap into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>group's expertise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there activities that the Solaris group >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is engaged in, in Russia, currently that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can leverage? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek Cicero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay Tatkar wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Steve, Alan, Derek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I noticed that in the metrics page you sent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out to PAC etc, there were UGs mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for 16 countries outside the US, but that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Russia wasnt one of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The compiler group has a significant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>presence in Russia, particularly in St. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Petersburg, which has one of the more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vibrant developer communities in Russia. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun recently hosted a one-day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conference-style event, which had a fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>high number of developers attending (the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>event planning started off as James Gosling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>making a preso, but the event blossomed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>include Sun Studio and other tools as well). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think this is an growth opportunity for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun in terms of developer base and Solaris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a piece of the puzzle thats truly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lacking there. Are there already plans to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get more OpenSolaris penetration in Russia; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if so, who's working those issues and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>logistics that we can talk to. We'd like to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help Solaris with better penetration there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(just being able to give out free DVDs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be a big help, but developer day like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>events centered around Solaris and Tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be more complete). Without a Solaris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>presence, the market there is gravitating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>towards Linux and all questions we get are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>focussed on Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'd like to know who we can work with to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>make this happen. On the tools side, we're >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>planning on making a push to make our tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be more visible there; I'd personally like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see Solaris be a big part of that story. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We're just getting started with the User >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Groups, so the more the merrier! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you want to set up a Russian mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and community space in the User Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sections of opensolaris.org, please work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with Jim Grisanzio, our community manager >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(who I have cc'd) and he can walk you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>through the process (it's easy). ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Derek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vijay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS. 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URL: From transmerch at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 14:29:51 2006 From: transmerch at gmail.com (Grigoriy) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:29:51 PST Subject: [osol-mktg] sotrydnichestvo s visokoy oplatoy Message-ID: <27182254.1141684221181.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Zdravstvyute. Mena zavyt Grigoriy , ya menedzer po personaly v kompanii , kotoraya ne imeet predstavitel'shva v USA , i zaregestrirovana na territorrii Evropeyskogo Soyza, i imenno iz-za etogo mi sotrydnichaem s fizicheskimi licami kotorie prozivayt na territorii USA . Nasha kompaniya zanimaetsa postavkoy i prodazey elektroniki na vsey territorii zemli. Rabota kotoryy predlagaet nasha kompaniya ne sloznaya , no ona zanimaet opredelennoe kolichestvo vremeni. Syt' raboti sledyyshaya , sotrydniky neobxodimo polychit' i perenapravit' dilivery. Kompaniya nyzdaetsa v ser'eznix celeystremlennix lydax . transmerch at gmail.com Grigoriy This message posted from opensolaris.org From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Wed Mar 8 15:54:07 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:54:07 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006 In-Reply-To: <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> References: <44064E5D.7010506@Sun.COM> <440E368E.7050405@sun.com> <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> Message-ID: <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> Linda Bernal wrote: > Jim Grisanzio wrote On 03/07/06 17:42,: >>>Here is an update on OpenSolaris for the month of February: >>>http://opensolaris.org/os/project/content/newsletter/feb06/ >>> >>>We are accepting contributions for the March newsletter, please send >>>them to program-team at opensolaris.org. >>> >> >>I'd like to include some new sections in the March issue of the newsletter: >> >>* A "Community & Project Highlights" section, where one group gets some >>space to talk about any important development in their area for that month. >> >>* An "Anecdote of the Month" section, where a community member tells a >>brief personal story about some issue or experience he/she has had >>recently with OpenSolaris. >> >>* A "Conferences" section, where community members describe experiences >>they've had traveling to various open source events around the world. >>Perhaps this could be user group meetings as well. >> >>If anyone would like to contribute to any of these areas, give us a >>shout. Or if you'd like to suggest other areas, please feel free. >> >>Jim >> > > Jim, > > Here's an idea. How about associating something visual with our > newsletter, like a logo? > > -Linda Hey, I like it. The newsletter lives on the site now, so we should have some flexibility graphically. I'd love for us to come up with a name and a logo. Maybe Sara can talk to us about branding issues around the newsletter since she's working on OpenSolaris branding (and I know nothing about branding). Sara ... any guidelines for something like this? Jim From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 9 10:35:16 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:35:16 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: Re: OpenSolaris and Linux Format] Message-ID: <44107564.5030403@sun.com> The Linix Format DVD is all finalized. According to the publication, BelliniX will be included on a DVD with Gentoo 2006 and SimplyMEPIS3.4-3. I've asked for copies of the publication to be sent our way so we can see how it all presented. The publication also has a feature article about OpenSolaris, plus basic installation guide for the DVD. There is still room on the DVD for a more detailed step-by-step that Dennis Clarke is working on as well. Thanks to everyone who worked quickly and Dennis' tireless efforts to build an ISO of all our distros. This work is not wasted--a DVD of all these distros is a cool item that can be given away in many different venues. I'll keep everyone informed of the timeframes in case we'd like to "update" the ISO....certainly there will be a good opportunity to give away during our 1 year anniversary efforts coming up in June! Thanks again to all! LKR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Mike Saunders Subject: RE: OpenSolaris and Linux Format Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:38:14 +0000 Size: 6075 URL: From blastwave at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 10:45:17 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:45:17 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [Fwd: Re: OpenSolaris and Linux Format] In-Reply-To: <44107564.5030403@sun.com> References: <44107564.5030403@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/9/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > The Linix Format DVD is all finalized. According to the publication, > BelliniX will be included on a DVD with Gentoo 2006 and SimplyMEPIS3.4-3. > The DVD-BOB ISO will be posted as soon as I think it looks ready for review. Soon I hope. I know that a better name is probably needed but I simply call it the dvd-bob.iso :-) I spent most of the last few nights working on this and I simply ask for a little patience. I'll keep you all briefed. Dennis From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Thu Mar 9 10:45:52 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:45:52 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006 In-Reply-To: <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> References: <44064E5D.7010506@Sun.COM> <440E368E.7050405@sun.com> <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> Message-ID: <441077E0.5080009@sun.com> >> Jim, >> >> Here's an idea. How about associating something visual with our >> newsletter, like a logo? > > > > > -Linda > > > Hey, I like it. The newsletter lives on the site now, so we should > have some flexibility graphically. I'd love for us to come up with a > name and a logo. Maybe Sara can talk to us about branding issues > around the newsletter since she's working on OpenSolaris branding (and > I know nothing about branding). > > Sara ... any guidelines for something like this? I also think this is fun idea Linda. We do have some restrictions and guidelines on the usage of the OpenSolaris name and wordmark, but we can still do our own thing for the newsletter without breaking any rules. - Create a name for the newsletter that doesn't include OpenSolaris. This may seem counter-intuitive, but we can't mess with the OpenSolaris wordmark or name, so if the goal is to create a graphic and name of some sort, we just won't include it. We can however use OpenSolaris in a tagline. For example, The Monthly Register OpenSolaris community highlights. This falls under fair use and as long as what we say is fair and true, we can say it textually (as opposed to graphically). - You can NOT use any sort of copyrighted artwork (or anything that looks too close to it) or name. For example, you can't come up with a graphic that looks just like the New York Times or Coca Cola logos, those are registered and copyrighted. It just means that it has to be your own art and a new name. - Whatever you submit should be licensed under the Creative Commons. Sun is not going to try to trademark the name or anything like that. If that is confusing, let me know. What would be the best way for us to accept submissions and to vote on them? Sara > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM Thu Mar 9 10:57:38 2006 From: Moinak.Ghosh at Sun.COM (Moinak Ghosh) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:27:38 +0530 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [Fwd: Re: OpenSolaris and Linux Format] In-Reply-To: References: <44107564.5030403@sun.com> Message-ID: <44107AA2.80003@Sun.COM> Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 3/9/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >> The Linix Format DVD is all finalized. According to the publication, >> BelliniX will be included on a DVD with Gentoo 2006 and SimplyMEPIS3.4-3. >> > > The DVD-BOB ISO will be posted as soon as I think it looks ready for > review. Soon I hope. > > I know that a better name is probably needed but I simply call it the > dvd-bob.iso :-) > > I spent most of the last few nights working on this and I simply ask > for a little patience. > > I'll keep you all briefed. > I have been following this through it's paces and it looks like one hell of an effort. A DVD with all the distros and OpenSolaris documentation is a valuable resource. Regards, Moinak. > Dennis > From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Thu Mar 9 11:19:01 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:19:01 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006 In-Reply-To: <441077E0.5080009@sun.com> References: <44064E5D.7010506@Sun.COM> <440E368E.7050405@sun.com> <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> <441077E0.5080009@sun.com> Message-ID: <44107FA5.5080006@sun.com> Sara Dornsife wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> Here's an idea. How about associating something visual with our >>> newsletter, like a logo? >> >> > -Linda >> >> Hey, I like it. The newsletter lives on the site now, so we should >> have some flexibility graphically. I'd love for us to come up with a >> name and a logo. Maybe Sara can talk to us about branding issues >> around the newsletter since she's working on OpenSolaris branding (and >> I know nothing about branding). >> >> Sara ... any guidelines for something like this? > > > I also think this is fun idea Linda. > > We do have some restrictions and guidelines on the usage of the > OpenSolaris name and wordmark, but we can still do our own thing for the > newsletter without breaking any rules. > > - Create a name for the newsletter that doesn't include OpenSolaris. > This may seem counter-intuitive, but we can't mess with the OpenSolaris > wordmark or name, so if the goal is to create a graphic and name of some > sort, we just won't include it. We can however use OpenSolaris in a > tagline. For example, The Monthly Register > OpenSolaris community highlights. This falls under fair use and as long > as what we say is fair and true, we can say it textually (as opposed to > graphically). Ok, cool. So we can do it. We can come up with an original name for the newsletter, create a logo for it, and then just associate it (correct term?) with OpenSolaris using a text tagline. I can live with that. Over time there will be many publications, so this little newsletter could be one of many newsletters. Can the text tagline be embedded in the graphic? What I mean is, can the name/logo, "The Monthly Register" (or whatever) and the text "OpenSolaris Community Highlights" (or whatever) be one image or does the text have to live separately as well? > - You can NOT use any sort of copyrighted artwork (or anything that > looks too close to it) or name. For example, you can't come up with a > graphic that looks just like the New York Times or Coca Cola logos, > those are registered and copyrighted. It just means that it has to be > your own art and a new name. Yes, that's what I think we are looking for. Community members would create something original. I'm sure we have some artists out there. > - Whatever you submit should be licensed under the Creative Commons. Sun > is not going to try to trademark the name or anything like that. Yes, I think CC is best. > What would be the best way for us to accept submissions and to vote on > them? Well, we have two issues: a name and graphical representation. Perhaps we can use some space on the Content Project to post things and then just vote via conversation on list. Nothing complicated, really. Just consensus. From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Thu Mar 9 11:43:27 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:43:27 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006 In-Reply-To: <44107FA5.5080006@sun.com> References: <44064E5D.7010506@Sun.COM> <440E368E.7050405@sun.com> <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> <441077E0.5080009@sun.com> <44107FA5.5080006@sun.com> Message-ID: <4410855F.5090106@sun.com> Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: > >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> Here's an idea. How about associating something visual with our >>>> newsletter, like a logo? >>> >>> >>> > -Linda >>> >>> Hey, I like it. The newsletter lives on the site now, so we should >>> have some flexibility graphically. I'd love for us to come up with a >>> name and a logo. Maybe Sara can talk to us about branding issues >>> around the newsletter since she's working on OpenSolaris branding >>> (and I know nothing about branding). >>> >>> Sara ... any guidelines for something like this? >> >> >> >> I also think this is fun idea Linda. >> >> We do have some restrictions and guidelines on the usage of the >> OpenSolaris name and wordmark, but we can still do our own thing for >> the newsletter without breaking any rules. >> >> - Create a name for the newsletter that doesn't include OpenSolaris. >> This may seem counter-intuitive, but we can't mess with the >> OpenSolaris wordmark or name, so if the goal is to create a graphic >> and name of some sort, we just won't include it. We can however use >> OpenSolaris in a tagline. For example, The Monthly >> Register OpenSolaris community highlights. This falls under >> fair use and as long as what we say is fair and true, we can say it >> textually (as opposed to graphically). > > > Ok, cool. So we can do it. We can come up with an original name for > the newsletter, create a logo for it, and then just associate it > (correct term?) with OpenSolaris using a text tagline. I can live with > that. Over time there will be many publications, so this little > newsletter could be one of many newsletters. > > Can the text tagline be embedded in the graphic? What I mean is, can > the name/logo, "The Monthly Register" (or whatever) and the text > "OpenSolaris Community Highlights" (or whatever) be one image or does > the text have to live separately as well? I don't know the official answer to this question, but my initial reaction is that the tagline should be seperate. > > >> - You can NOT use any sort of copyrighted artwork (or anything that >> looks too close to it) or name. For example, you can't come up with a >> graphic that looks just like the New York Times or Coca Cola logos, >> those are registered and copyrighted. It just means that it has to be >> your own art and a new name. > > > Yes, that's what I think we are looking for. Community members would > create something original. I'm sure we have some artists out there. > >> - Whatever you submit should be licensed under the Creative Commons. >> Sun is not going to try to trademark the name or anything like that. > > > Yes, I think CC is best. > >> What would be the best way for us to accept submissions and to vote >> on them? > > > Well, we have two issues: a name and graphical representation. Perhaps > we can use some space on the Content Project to post things and then > just vote via conversation on list. Nothing complicated, really. Just > consensus. Can we use the marketing community site for this? I don't know how to do it, so that's why I ask. If we have permission of the submitters, we can leave the artwork up there. > > > > From Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM Fri Mar 10 18:18:57 2006 From: Jim.Grisanzio at Sun.COM (Jim Grisanzio) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:18:57 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- February 2006 In-Reply-To: <4410855F.5090106@sun.com> References: <44064E5D.7010506@Sun.COM> <440E368E.7050405@sun.com> <440F6B50.8050903@Sun.COM> <440F6E9F.9080104@sun.com> <441077E0.5080009@sun.com> <44107FA5.5080006@sun.com> <4410855F.5090106@sun.com> Message-ID: <44123391.9000109@sun.com> Sara Dornsife wrote: > Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> Well, we have two issues: a name and graphical representation. Perhaps >> we can use some space on the Content Project to post things and then >> just vote via conversation on list. Nothing complicated, really. Just >> consensus. > > > Can we use the marketing community site for this? I don't know how to do > it, so that's why I ask. If we have permission of the submitters, we can > leave the artwork up there. I'm not sure we need a place to post the art, actually. I mean, I think we'll have one or two or three (at most) submissions and we can deal with that over mail on list. If you want to archive the logos we didn't use for the newsletter, that's fine, I suppose. I only suggested the Content Project because that is a work space; it's not a space to display things. It should get nice and messy in there over time. The only reason the newsletter is there is I needed a place to put it temporarily, and there is no logical place to put it on the site for it at present. Ultimately, I believe the newsletter should live on the news section (just as Articles should, just as blogs should be featured/highlighted there, etc) but that requires a re-design (coding) of that page and resources are being used in other, more important, areas. So I'm happy to have it sitting in the Content Project under the wire while we build out the publication and content generation process. When I feel the product is substantive enough, I'll suggest moving it to a higher-profile area. For now, it needs work. Like name and a logo. I'll put a call for submission in the March issue and also post to the discuss list and see if anyone is interested. Jim From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 16 06:58:32 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:58:32 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Band of Brothers DVD--Update Message-ID: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> Dennis: got an update on the Band of Brothers DVD? Once you have the ISO up on Blastwave, and the installation guide is set, we can start the production phase of the project: 1--Sara can start whipping up the DVD cover art in inserts... 2--We can figure out best timing for the first run (and the quantity) 3--We can PROMOTE THE ISO so that User Groups can burn them at will! Cheers, LKR From blastwave at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 07:39:59 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:39:59 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Dennis: > > got an update on the Band of Brothers DVD? In short, yes. Still working on it. > Once you have the ISO up on > Blastwave, and the installation guide is set, we can start the > production phase of the project: > > 1--Sara can start whipping up the DVD cover art in inserts... I think I'll do the cover. What were you thinking of doing? Does Sara have a prototype or an idea in mind ? > 2--We can figure out best timing for the first run (and the quantity) Wasn't the idea 1000 ? > 3--We can PROMOTE THE ISO so that User Groups can burn them at will! Thats part of the documentation I think. Dennis ps: am real busy here. From stevel at sun.com Thu Mar 16 09:02:43 2006 From: stevel at sun.com (Stephen Lau) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:02:43 -0800 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> Message-ID: <44199A33.40604@sun.com> Hi Dennis, Got an ETA on when the DVD would be ready? I'm heading down to the FISL conference in April, and I'd love to burn a whole bunch of these DVDs and bring them with me. cheers, steve Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 3/16/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > >>Dennis: >> >> got an update on the Band of Brothers DVD? > > > In short, yes. Still working on it. > > >>Once you have the ISO up on >>Blastwave, and the installation guide is set, we can start the >>production phase of the project: >> >>1--Sara can start whipping up the DVD cover art in inserts... > > > I think I'll do the cover. What were you thinking of doing? Does Sara have > a prototype or an idea in mind ? > > >>2--We can figure out best timing for the first run (and the quantity) > > > Wasn't the idea 1000 ? > > >>3--We can PROMOTE THE ISO so that User Groups can burn them at will! > > > Thats part of the documentation I think. > > Dennis > > ps: am real busy here. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org -- stephen lau // stevel at sun.com | 650.786.0845 | http://whacked.net opensolaris // solaris kernel development From blastwave at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 09:17:33 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:17:33 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: <44199A33.40604@sun.com> References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> <44199A33.40604@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/06, Stephen Lau wrote: > Hi Dennis, > Got an ETA on when the DVD would be ready? I'm heading down to the > FISL conference in April, and I'd love to burn a whole bunch of these > DVDs and bring them with me. I wanted them ready for this Monday :-( As in two days ago. Or is it three ? I have been around the clock in the last week. You may be familiar with that. At this point I am slaving away and really trying to pack in as much as possible here. dc From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 16 09:25:21 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:25:21 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: <44199A33.40604@sun.com> References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> <44199A33.40604@sun.com> Message-ID: <44199F81.9000702@sun.com> Or, do you have any action items that other folks in community could help you to get this over the finish line...your postscript said it all! Tell us how / what to do to help. Sara can collaborate with you on art. No worries there. LKR Stephen Lau wrote: > Hi Dennis, > Got an ETA on when the DVD would be ready? I'm heading down to > the FISL conference in April, and I'd love to burn a whole bunch of > these DVDs and bring them with me. > > cheers, > steve > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> On 3/16/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: >> >>> Dennis: >>> >>> got an update on the Band of Brothers DVD? >> >> >> >> In short, yes. Still working on it. >> >> >>> Once you have the ISO up on >>> Blastwave, and the installation guide is set, we can start the >>> production phase of the project: >>> >>> 1--Sara can start whipping up the DVD cover art in inserts... >> >> >> >> I think I'll do the cover. What were you thinking of doing? Does >> Sara have >> a prototype or an idea in mind ? >> >> >>> 2--We can figure out best timing for the first run (and the quantity) >> >> >> >> Wasn't the idea 1000 ? >> >> >>> 3--We can PROMOTE THE ISO so that User Groups can burn them at will! >> >> >> >> Thats part of the documentation I think. >> >> Dennis >> >> ps: am real busy here. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org > > > From blastwave at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 09:37:51 2006 From: blastwave at gmail.com (Dennis Clarke) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:37:51 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: <44199F81.9000702@sun.com> References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> <44199A33.40604@sun.com> <44199F81.9000702@sun.com> Message-ID: On 3/16/06, Laura Ramsey wrote: > > Or, do you have any action items that other folks in community could > help you to get this over the finish line...your postscript said it all! > Tell us how / what to do to help. Get a technically gripped guy to help me with a step by step "easy" procedure to install and get SchilliX running well along with X Windows which is built in now. I have been through the process a few times now and in every case I run into a wall of some sort. I get to a point where I boot and have no /usr and that is a real drag : http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/SchilliX/phase2/SchilliX_033.png Its not like I don't live and breath this stuff but SchilliX is a purist version of OpenSolaris .. like a race car with no air conditioning, door handles or seat belts. Also .. I am trying to get a multi-boot process working but that may too far out at this point. also .. doc doc docs ... I have tons to write and I have learned from harsh business experience .. never release anything until I am happy with it. If someone asks if they can have a font in cornflower blue I will go completely Tyler Durden on them. :-) > > Sara can collaborate with you on art. No worries there. > np Dennis From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Fri Mar 17 07:03:15 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (Patrick Finch) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:03:15 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated community metrics Message-ID: <441ACFB3.5070509@sun.com> All, Updated metrics are available here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ regards Patrick From schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de Fri Mar 17 08:08:46 2006 From: schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:08:46 +0100 Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: [osol-discuss] Band of Brothers DVD--Update In-Reply-To: References: <44197D18.1090807@sun.com> <44199A33.40604@sun.com> <44199F81.9000702@sun.com> Message-ID: <441ADF0E.nailMK941G14J@burner> "Dennis Clarke" wrote: > Get a technically gripped guy to help me with a step by step "easy" > procedure to install and get SchilliX running well along with X > Windows which is built in now. > > I have been through the process a few times now and in every case I > run into a wall of some sort. I get to a point where I boot and have > no /usr and that is a real drag : > > http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/opensolaris/SchilliX/phase2/SchilliX_033.png I am sorry, but if you did create a single partition for / & /usr for the SchilliX copy on disk and follow the instructtions from /boot/grub/README.install I see wo reason why you could miss /usr J?rg -- EMail:joerg at schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js at cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM Thu Mar 23 06:43:07 2006 From: Sara.Dornsife at Sun.COM (Sara Dornsife) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:43:07 -0600 Subject: [osol-mktg] [Fwd: Community Leader Spotlight] Message-ID: <4422B3FB.7070809@sun.com> Hey, look what I got. Congratulations Ben! Sara -------- Original Message -------- Sun Community Champions Program Community Leaders Speak Out Dear Sara Dornsife, Our web communities -- Java technology, Solaris OS, OpenSolaris OS, NetBeans, and others -- comprise millions of developers, including our industry's most brilliant stars. You and others like you, have inspired the free exchange of ideas and leading-edge technology, and collectively your commitment to grow these communities has made an enormous difference. Sun wants to recognize the leaders among you, and so we have created the Sun Community Champions Program. http://sun.r.delivery.net/r?1.1.3J1.2U2.11LWcS.BxojOo...Cr52.1RTI.3Ri1BY Be sure to visit http://developers.sun.com/champions/ for the debut of the Sun Community Champions Program and hear from your community peers such as Mr. Xu Bin, a Java Champion and Mr. Ben Rockwood, an OpenSolaris Champion, on their strategies, challenges, and solutions, with a peek into the future. http://sun.r.delivery.net/r?1.1.3J1.2U2.11LWcS.BxojOo...Cr52.1RTI.3Ri1BY If you have any questions or feedback, please send a message to Community_Champions at sun.com. Thank you, Sun Microsystems (c) 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. For information on Sun's trademarks see: http://www.sun.com/suntrademarks To unsubscribe from this list, reply to this message with "Unsubscribe" in the subject line or use this link: http://sun.r.delivery.net/r?1.1.3J1.2U2.11LWcS.BxojOo...Cr50.1RTI.3RLXBW To manage your Sun subscriptions, visit the Subscription Center: http://sun.r.delivery.net/r?1.1.3J1.2U2.11LWcS.BxojOo...Cr4y.1RTI.3d*HCe Sun Microsystems, Inc., 4210 Network Circle MS: USCA21-308 Santa Clara, CA 95054 United States From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 23 07:39:28 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:39:28 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] LinuxWorld Boston and OSBC SF In-Reply-To: <43F38648.2090009@cuddletech.com> References: <43F38648.2090009@cuddletech.com> Message-ID: <4422C130.6070803@sun.com> Hi-- Things were quiet on the LinuxWorld Boston front--we had some ideas perking with AMD, and then not...and now I'm planning to hoof it down there for Side conversations, handing out T-shirts and some SXCR DvDs that Stephen Lau has pulled together. I thought it possible that I might have the BOB (to be renamed I know...) DVDs ready--I need to connect with Dennis. Anyone Else got plans? LKR Ben Rockwood wrote: > LinuxWorld Boston is coming up on April 3rd. Are we expecting to have > a presence? > > Also, I'm curious about what exposure we might have gotten this week > at OSBC in SF. I completely forgot about it happening. > > > benr. > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-mktg mailing list > opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org From rich.teer at rite-group.com Thu Mar 23 09:14:08 2006 From: rich.teer at rite-group.com (Rich Teer) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:14:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [osol-mktg] LinuxWorld Boston and OSBC SF In-Reply-To: <4422C130.6070803@sun.com> References: <43F38648.2090009@cuddletech.com> <4422C130.6070803@sun.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Laura Ramsey wrote: > Anyone Else got plans? No plans--continuing unemployment means there's no cash in the kitty for such things. :-( But I'd be happy to help out any way I can. -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich From Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM Thu Mar 23 10:28:48 2006 From: Laura.Ramsey at Sun.COM (Laura Ramsey) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:28:48 -0500 Subject: [osol-mktg] Recognition Program ideas-- Message-ID: <4422E8E0.4030301@sun.com> Hi-- just re-lighting the conversation around community recognition... I'd like to start up a few "things" that community members could do to receive a special prize--between now and the Birthday Celebration: If they get through the entire list, they get a prize--it's like making it through "levels" in Doom (or whatever cool game is in right now...) And they are really easy things--and SUPER USEFUL things.... So they do them in order to "earn" OpenSolaris "points" . Some folks have already done things from throughout the list...but they don't get their "credit or due" unless they do the level 1 stuff! Give this a quick read and let me know what you think. I'd love to get this ramped up ASAP so that we have awards to make in the Birthday Celebration Timeframe... And suggestions on what sort of thing we can give --I'd like to make it something cumulative--so community members want to get the next item... If you have ideas, would love to hear it! LKR ---Level 1----- 1--Update your profile on opensolaris.org 2--list yourself on the opensolaris FRAPPR! Map (with shout out) 3--Register for local user group email list ----Level 4---- 4--Join a project on opensolaris.org (and we can suggest a few here) 5--Post an article on OpenSolaris 6--Post a presentation in Library ----Level 7---- 7--Introduce and register a friend to OpenSolaris (like a membership drive) 8--file a bug 9--Blog ----Level 10---- 10--start a user group 11--present at user group 12o-- From menno.lageman at sun.com Fri Mar 24 13:10:40 2006 From: menno.lageman at sun.com (Menno Lageman) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:10:40 PST Subject: [osol-mktg] Re: Recognition Program ideas-- In-Reply-To: <4422E8E0.4030301@sun.com> Message-ID: <3139800.1143234670202.JavaMail.suncom@oss1> Hi, How about: "submit code"? This message posted from opensolaris.org From Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM Fri Mar 31 03:57:09 2006 From: Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM (patrick finch) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:57:09 +0200 Subject: [osol-mktg] Updated community metrics In-Reply-To: <441ACFB3.5070509@sun.com> References: <441ACFB3.5070509@sun.com> Message-ID: <442D1915.7000009@holland.sun.com> All, there are updated metrics here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ regards Patrick