[osol-mktg] Re: [ug-discuss] Community Consolidation -- Marketing & UGs

[Jim Grisanzio]

John J McLaughlin wrote On 04/06/07 23:43,:
> Can the opensolaris.org webmaster set up links so that all these links 
> will go to the same page:


Not sure. But I think we have a good idea here of making the UGs into 
projects, so that would clean up the url problem and make the leadership 
issues of each UG clear. Also, I'd rather see us get a clean standard 
implementation first than putting in four or five re-directs for each of 
the 50 or so user groups.


>     http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/ie-osug (works)
> 
>     http://www.opensolaris.org/ie-osug
>     http://opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/ie-osug  (works)
>     http://opensolaris.org/ie-osug
>     http:/www.ie-osug.opensolaris.org
>     http://ie-osug.opensolaris.org
> 
> (replacing ie-osug for each of the osug names)
> 
> The www's are redundant, but many people type www automatically!
> 
> As for merging the Marketing Community and the User Group Community: , I 
> don't think that makes sense. While there is an overlap, and the two 
> communities work well together, there are not the same.
> Marketing should be engaged in activities beyond users groups and user 
> group local activities are not marketing.


Marketing and UGs are not the same, you are right. But they overlap in 
many areas, and they are directly related since one community grew from 
the other and they still share some resources. All that is easy to 
document. However, the idea being discussed is to merge them into 
something /greater/ than they are now. UG activities would continue and 
marketing activities would continue. But we'd build more components into 
the mix and establish a more diverse and stronger (to be named) 
community and one with more influence under the new OpenSolaris 
Constitution.

Regardless. This merger issue can wait. The discussion is valuable for 
us to address the immediate structural issues of the UG Community. 
That's most important in the short term.

Jim
-- 
Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris






> 
> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> 
>>
>> hey, Tim ...
>>
>>
>> Tim Foster wrote On 04/06/07 16:59,:
>>
>>> hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Sorry for not chiming in till now.
>>>
>>> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to propose that we merge the Marketing Community and the 
>>>> User Group Community:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree. I've always thought it'd be really nice if these groups 
>>> could work more closely together - indeed, putting up the "talks & 
>>> presentation" pages and the "how you can help opensolaris marketing" 
>>> pages was definitely targeting both communities.
>>>
>>> As they put it in the Life Of Brian, "Brothers, we should be 
>>> struggling together!" ;-)
>>>
>>> I also like the idea of each ug getting it's own project - if even 
>>> for the nicer URLs it'll generate. One comment about a recent IEOSUG 
>>> poster we did, was that
>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/os_user_groups/ie-osug/iosug-9
>>> doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
>>
>>
>> Oh, come on, that's a perfectly lovely url. :) I agree, though, a 
>> project space will be an excellent solution to offer UGs and clean up 
>> site issues right now.
>>
>>
>>> Advocate seems like a nice name to me, though I think I prefer
>>> Ambassador[1] - it's a gentler term than Advocate, which like
>>> Evangelist suggests to me some sort of foaming-at-the-mouth zealot
>>> (though not nearly as strongly as Evangelist does)
>>>
>>> Ambassador would imply that we're a more diplomatic bunch than that.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, cool, so the list grows:
>>
>> * Ambassador Community
>> * Advocates Community
>> * Evangelism Community or Evangelization Community
>> * Outreach Community
>>
>> More candidates welcome ...
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm easy about the name though - it's what we do that's important.
>>>
>>>
>>>     cheers,
>>>             tim
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] This might confuse some Sun-employees I admit. There are
>>> programmes inside Sun where sales engineers can become
>>> "OS Ambassadors", "Network Ambassadors", etc. potential
>>> confusion there if there's ever an Sun-internal "OpenSolaris
>>> Ambassador" programme. However, what those guys do, and what
>>> we do is virtually the same thing:
>>> http://blogs.sun.com/jimlaurent/entry/what_is_a_sun_os
>>>
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