[osol-mktg] Sponsor Project Indiana

[michelle olson]

Hi,

Sara Dornsife wrote:
> michelle olson wrote:
>> Hi Sara,
>>
>> Your common practice is fine, let's take it a step further. When I go 
>> to fedora web site 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines and read 
>> about the trademark usage, I get information that makes sense. This 
>> is not the case when I go to http://opensolaris.org/os/trademark/ I 
>> get information that is out of date, promises not kept and a message 
>> to 'stay tuned'.
>>
>> Will we be fixing that? 
>
> Yes
Cool, I know we have fan buttons, we could at least update that with a 
live link now, I think.
>
>> Will parties be authorized to use the trademark? 
>
> To a point. The TM will always be protected. Not only because it 
> belongs to Sun, but because it is the right thing to do.
Can you be any more specific about 'to a point'? If you can't elaborate 
today, that is fine, I think it is important to just let folks know that 
there will be some new opportunity to use the trademark if that is coming.
>
>> Under what conditions? 
>
> Let's open that up. I can act as an intermediary with Sun on this. 
> What are we looking for?
Awesome, I really appreciate your help to do this. For my part, I think 
folks today who write documents in support of OpenSolaris can title them 
'XYZ Debugging Guide for the OpenSolaris Project'. It would be nice if 
they could put the actual, colorful, wordmark on the document. This is 
just an example, tons of folks have asked me for branded templates for 
content they write to support the project, but I haven't provided that 
because of the trademark issue.

For another case, I think it would be nice incentive for folks to 
contribute to the OpenSolaris distribution if they knew that they 
themselves could use the trademark to promote their own work. Maybe that 
is crazy-talk, but that is really what I've been thinking about. So, 
maybe core contributors get rights to use?...back to the dang 
contributor list! :)
>
>> Will there be guidelines? 
>
> Definitely. I will reread the Fedora ones for a baseline. If there are 
> any other sources anyone thinks are good, I'd be happy to reference 
> them as well.
Great, thanks. Guidelines for the kinds of cases above (writing a 
document, passing out distro copies) that were global for opensolaris 
would be great. I'm happy to help out with reviews of the document.
>
>> How about a mailing list for questions? 
>
> That's a great idea. The marketing community can sponsor. 
> Trademarks at opensolaris.org?
Sounds good to me. I think we just need to request this from website 
discuss nowadays.
>
>> These details and information about how any of these rules are going 
>> to change in support of the new effort is the critical information 
>> that we need to provide.
>
> Agreed
Cool.
-Michelle
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michelle
>>
>> Sara Dornsife wrote:
>>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>>> Patrick Finch <Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> Some confusion for some people perhaps, but it is possible to 
>>>>> communicate a change.  For the last 2 years I have been dealing 
>>>>> with the confusion that "OpenSolaris" is not a bootable OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can understand that there might be objections to naming a distro 
>>>>> "OpenSolaris" for other reasons, but I don't accept that the risk 
>>>>> of confusing people should disqualify the idea.
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> Do you like to recommend to use the name "diesel" as brand name for
>>>> diesel oil product?
>>>>   
>>>
>>> I don't know about that, but I do know that when I go to Fedora or 
>>> Ubuntu or OpenOffice or Netbeans or Eclipse or PostgreSQL or 
>>> SugarCRM (and so on), I do download something by the same name. It 
>>> is common practice and expected.
>>>
>>>> There are other similar cases. People just did learn that 
>>>> "OpenSolaris"
>>>> is not a product name but the name for a software base.
>>>>
>>>> Jörg
>>>>
>>>>   
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